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Russia Evacuates Its Syrian Naval Base

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In a somewhat surprising move (given the proxy war under way), Russia has evacuated all military personnel from its small naval base in Syria. "We have neither servicemen nor civilians in Syria anymore," the newspaper Vedomosti reported quoting an unnamed Defense Ministry employee, "or Russian military instructors assigned to units of the Syrian regular army, for that matter." As The Washington Post reports, a 16-ship Russian naval task force in the eastern Mediterranean remains on post, reports said. Cyprus has made its ports available to the Russian fleet if needed, but the base at Tartus (that we described in detail here) has been Russia’s only foothold in the Middle East. A person with knowledge of the Kremlin’s decision told Russia’s RT television channel that the withdrawal reflected concerns about the risks posed by Syria’s ongoing civil war, as well as the fear of an incident involving the Russian military that could have larger consequences.

Via The Washington Post,

Russia has evacuated all military personnel from its small naval base in Syria, Russian news organizations reported Wednesday.

 

The base, at Tartus on the Mediterranean, has been Russia’s only foothold in the Middle East. Although it is a minor facility, its importance has grown as Russia continues to support the regime of President Bashar al-Assad in its war against rebel forces.

 

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A 16-ship Russian naval task force in the eastern Mediterranean remains on post, reports said. Cyprus has made its ports available to the Russian fleet if needed.

 

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“We have neither servicemen nor civilians in Syria anymore,” the newspaper Vedomosti reported, quoting an unnamed Defense Ministry employee. “Or Russian military instructors assigned to units of the Syrian regular army, for that matter.”

 

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A person with knowledge of the Kremlin’s decision told Russia’s RT television channel that the withdrawal reflected concerns about the risks posed by Syria’s ongoing civil war, as well as the fear of an incident involving the Russian military that could have larger consequences.

 

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It does not appear that the pullout from Tartus will interfere with the delivery of air-defense and anti-ship missiles by Russia to Syria. Bogdanov again defended the shipments of arms as legal and part of an existing contract. Asked when the deliveries would begin, he said that was a decision for the “supreme command.”

 

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Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:04 | 3699156 SheepDog-One
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Mushroom clouds over Syria....BULLISH!!

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:09 | 3699185 DeadFred
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Fireworks for the 4th of July?

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:37 | 3699320 cifo
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Let the other make the first move. It reminds me of Kursk 1943, for some reason.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:47 | 3699350 SamAdams
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Fireworks indeed.  This is a loud and clear message that Russia believes that an advanced weapons and troops invasion is soon.  We already know that missles and troops surround the borders.  This is the green light.  Have to say, I am disappointed in Russia and fearful for the innocent civilians in Syria.  The USrael sponsored terrorists show no mercy to even women and children.  Sickening how the International Bankers manipulate others to do their dirty work.  All made possible by a monopoly on the creation of money.  I suppose Russia is not strong enough to fight off a middle east hedgemony, or are the banker's still in control of the bear?

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:48 | 3699366 cifo
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Like in chess, you give a pawn to get a knight or so.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:51 | 3699381 SamAdams
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You could be correct.  Amerika is quite over-extended, financially and militarily.  Good thing we have the DHS, TSA and NSA to secure the homeland /sarc...

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 14:32 | 3700134 caconhma
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The issue is not whether Russia is strong military or not. There are over 1,500 Russian nukes available for transforming of America and NATO countries into a Sahara desert landscape. It is all about a political will.

Putin is a confused man who is no clear about his plans. Presently, there are two power centers in Russia, i.e., President Putin and his Prime Minister Medvedev. They represent two absolutely different oligarchy power centers. Being in a power for more than 15 years, Putin was concern only about enriching himself. During all this time, Putin has done nothing for the country. The West Power Elite is very much confused about ways to deal with Putin.

As for China, they would like to see a major confrontation between Russia and the USA.  Now about Iran. Iran cannot permit neither America nor Israel to take over Syria. Consequently, Russia is not a major player in Syria. In a case if Syria Assad is about to fall, Iran can in 3-5 months go nuclear.

No fly zone is a declaration of war against a State. To have a major confrontation with Iran, US/NATO will need 3-4 month to bring and deploy their military in the Middle East. The $64,000 question: will Iran behave as Iraqi Saddam or will use preventive strikes making the situation very messy all around world?

 

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 14:51 | 3700261 DosZap
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Putin is a confused man who is no clear about his plans. Presently, there are two power centers in Russia, i.e., President Putin and his Prime Minister Medvedev.

Medvedev has NO stroke, he was and is Putins puppet,always has been.He has been used as a stage prop.(IMHO)

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 13:14 | 3699737 123dobryden
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their fiat move has already been taken :)

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 13:38 | 3699820 Renewable Life
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Ohhhh little Putin, he likes to bark like a pit bull, but when it comes time to bite, he's a puddle!!!! That's my least favorite arcatype of male!! Where's Teddy Roosevelt when you need him, talk softly and carry a big stick!!

If little Putin wasn't such a blow hard, those s-300 missile system would already to in Syria and up and working!!

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:24 | 3699268 draug
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IOW this is Russia telling Syria: We're not getting dragged into a nuclear war just because of the mess you bozos have put yourself in.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:33 | 3699305 Skateboarder
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The Syrian people are just as much of bozos as everyone else on the planet. Stuck between an appointed dictator and hired 'rebels,' there is only the prospect of a better tomorrow to hold on to for those poor folks. I'm sure everyone is confused as fuck in Syria.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:57 | 3699413 Randall Cabot
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Radical Jewish anti-Islamic activist and Fox News regular Pamela Geller said on her blog in 2010: "And I pray dearly that in the ungodly event that Tehran or its jihadi proxies (Hez’Ballah, Hamas, etc.) target Israel with a nuke, that she retaliate with everything she has at Tehran, Mecca, Medina……not to mention Europe.

http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/PamGellerIsraelNukeEurope.html

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:10 | 3699458 Kirk2NCC1701
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Nice.

Now you know what the Romans had to deal with: The ENTIRE ME is psychotic. Nothing has changed in 2000 years, but they still keep selling Hope, Change and Redemption.

Un-fucking-believable.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:27 | 3699514 frostfan
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You may be the only person on the planet who gives a rat's ass about what Pamela Geller says.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 13:08 | 3699713 Randall Cabot
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How about what Golda Meir said:

"During an interview with Alan Hart, the then Israeli premier Golda Meir twice stated that Israel was prepared to destroy the whole world with nuclear weapons if Israel ever faced military defeat."

 

 

 

 

http://rense.com/general95/samp.html   

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 13:29 | 3699782 DosZap
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How about what Golda Meir said:

"During an interview with Alan Hart, the then Israeli premier Golda Meir twice stated that Israel was prepared to destroy the whole world with nuclear weapons if Israel ever faced military defeat."

 

Golda is dead, and the mindset is SO far from her heyday, ain;t ever happening, as they for one do not have the firepower.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 14:11 | 3699998 Randall Cabot
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Then what what Martin van Creveld said in 2003?

"Van Creveld was quoted in David Hirst's "The Gun and the Olive Branch" (2003) as saying:

We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: 'Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.' I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under,"

 

 

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option   

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 14:26 | 3700096 Uncle Remus
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Bring it.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 14:47 | 3700235 DosZap
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Then what what Martin van Creveld said in 2003?

"Van Creveld was quoted in David Hirst's "The Gun and the Olive Branch" (2003) as saying:

We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: 'Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.' I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under,"

Well they have only two reactors to my knowledge,and they have supposedly only tactical nukes, so IF TRUE, how do you think they/can/will do what they claimed?.I remember ZERO Israeli test launches, for testing rockets, do you?.If memory serves WE gave them the 400-600+ tactical nukes they have, and unless I am sadly mistaken tactical nukes are not capable of reaching worldwide.The only other option would be via subs.

I have never heard that Israel HAS Nuke capable delivery subs.(all this is speculation and what little info has been leaked over the past 45yrs), they have never claimed to even have any.(we know that is a lie)

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 15:57 | 3700606 Randall Cabot
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"The Dolphin-class boats are the most expensive single vehicle in the Israel Defense Forces and are considered among the most sophisticated and capable conventionally powered submarines in the world. Each Dolphin-class submarine is capable of carrying a combined total of up to 16 torpedoes and SLCMs.[4] The cruise missiles are believed to have a range of 1,500 km (930 mi)[5] and may be equipped with conventional warheads or a 200-kilogram (440 lb) nuclear warhead containing anything up to 6 kilograms (13 lb) of plutonium."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolphin_submarine

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 13:25 | 3699768 DosZap
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PUKIN CAVES???, I thought he had a real set.Appears all BS.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 14:36 | 3700157 natronic
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At this point in time everything is soooo topsy turvy nothing would surprise me.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 18:21 | 3701205 Surrealist
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Funny you mention this....

Isaiah 17: 1, 14a   The burden against Damascus.

“Behold, Damascus will cease from being a city,
And it will be a ruinous heap.

Then behold, at eventide, trouble!
And before the morning, he is no more.

 

 

 

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:05 | 3699159 Schmuck Raker
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Snowden's fault...

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:09 | 3699182 LMAO
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definitely a Snow job

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:41 | 3699332 Long-John-Silver
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Anyone notice that the media can't find Snowden in that Moscow Airport "Neverland"?

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:15 | 3699471 Kirk2NCC1701
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Read the news, Obama already did a pivot on this.

Poor Snowden is now Old News.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:43 | 3699592 Oldrepublic
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@long john silver

21st Century Wire

REYKJAVIK, Iceland - Yesterday evening June 26th, at approximately 3:00am Iceland time, an in-bound Russian Sukhoi Super Jet 100-95 chartered flight landed at Keflavik International Airport, after being held in a holding pattern for approximately 45 minutes while circling the airport.

21st Century Wire’s Man in Iceland tracked this flight on FlightRadar24.com last night, and followed-up by documenting the plane itself (above) after landing just after 3:00am Reykjavík local time early this morning. He explained:

“There’s an old military base with hangers there next to Keflavik International Airport, and the Russian plane was hiding there between two hangers. The tail number 97005 matches the flight I tracked coming in”.

“With all the other in-coming flights on FlightRadar24 you could click on the flight and it would reveal the origin of the flight – all except this one. It appeared to be removed, so some of this flight’s data was not being transmitted as with the others – maybe this is because it was a test flight? That’s still a possibility at this point”.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 13:36 | 3699809 Bryan
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Well, 'guess who' was on that flight?  Rhymes with whistleblowden.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:34 | 3699555 S5936
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Looks like the Ruskies got a snapshot of some interesting info on the hard drives EH ?

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:05 | 3699161 First There Is ...
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Snowden trade? Carte blanche to "liberate" Syria in trade for "traitor"? 

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:06 | 3699170 IridiumRebel
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no way....a whole country for one dude with some info that could be dug if willing? 

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:16 | 3699230 Temporalist
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A whole country in the middle of a lot of oil you mean.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:18 | 3699239 RockRiver
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...with none themselves....

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:24 | 3699269 IridiumRebel
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IMF: Oil sales for 2010 were projected to generate $3.2 billion for the Syrian government and account for 25.1% of the state's revenue."

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:53 | 3699390 SpiceMustFlow
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exactly, they ain't got shit but a broke state

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:34 | 3699270 First There Is ...
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OK, bullshit story. That helps clarify things....

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:36 | 3699316 IridiumRebel
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It seems another poster has already debunked this probably erroneous story. 

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:35 | 3699317 knukles
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No

That's be Russia giving in on all counts.
No way.

If the west withdrew troops in exchange for Snowjob, that it'd be sensical...
But Vlad give all around?
He already views Obie as a weakling....

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:43 | 3699347 IridiumRebel
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+1

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:06 | 3699163 IridiumRebel
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Strange....

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:28 | 3699284 fockewulf190
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Sounds like Putin has read the writing on the wall and is eliminating the threat of a Russian hostage situation from developing. The last thing Putin wants is to be blackmailed.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:06 | 3699167 BadDog
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Vlad the impaler and the SCO is getting ready to run a taper right up the ass of the West if it doesn't cool it's jets over Syria.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:06 | 3699168 Dr. Engali
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It looks like Russia is going to play ball with the west when it comes to Syria. I wonder how much it took to buy them out.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:12 | 3699205 fonzannoon
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that's how I see it. I also see Putin handing snowden back to the U.S. pretty soon.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:20 | 3699249 francis_sawyer
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Washington Fucking Post... pfffffffffffffftt!

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:21 | 3699259 Dr. Engali
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To me this is an incredible show of weakness on Russias part. Th price tag must have been high for them to cooperate.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:24 | 3699266 francis_sawyer
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To me, the story is bullshit...

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:28 | 3699287 Dr. Engali
Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:30 | 3699296 fonzannoon
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Wow Francis bs sniffer out in full force. Nice job.

I just emailed you guys this.

"The Obama administration permitted the National Security Agency to continue collecting vast amounts of records detailing the email and Internet usage of Americans for more than two years, new documents published by The Guardian reveal."

 

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:37 | 3699321 Skateboarder
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Solid, francis. *golfclap*

Trade in your privacy for a sleek new iPad today!

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:45 | 3699352 francis_sawyer
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The logic is simple... [notwithstanding WHO owns the Washington Post]

~~~

Raise your hand if you think that 'Lerch von Heintzenstein' is gonna ride in there on Mr. Ed & have anything to offer...

Fuck No...

This is Vladdy KGB's club... & heall spleash da pot veanever da fak he vants...

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:38 | 3699328 Dr. Engali
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Thanks for putting me on the list ;->. I'm sure that every one of us are already in the data base at Utah.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:27 | 3699516 deKevelioc
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From RT:

Russia’s Defense Ministry said in a press release that civilian contractors continue to work at the Tartus navy base and blasted media reports about total evacuation as “extremely incorrect.”

Fri, 06/28/2013 - 06:29 | 3702683 BigJim
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Israel: Gee, we're sorry Mr. Putin, we'd heard you'd all left, so we thought we'd blow up the naval base... you know... to stop Hez'Bollah getting their hands on it.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:37 | 3699322 knukles
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Well now, that's more like it!
There's no reason for Putin to give on Syria or Snowjob.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 14:04 | 3699950 Jack Burton
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Thanks "dick cheneys ghost". It always helps to check what Russian media is saying when these wild stories make the western news. Reading the headline, I was dubious of this story. Russia has done the opposite of withdrawal, they have warned Obama that western direct invasion is not one the cards. So a pull out from Tartus makes no sense. This key little port allows Russian Landing ships to bring in critical supplies on a vessel that the west dare not try and stop. Unless of course nuclear war is not a concern anymore!

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:30 | 3699534 Overfed
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Yup. They're only evacuating civilians, which to me, shows that Putin means business.

Military is staying put.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:42 | 3699588 Umh
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A ship is safer at sea than in port for what it's worth.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:14 | 3699216 YuropeanImbecille
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It is truly remarkable that people in the year 2013 still don't understand that Putin & co are proper criminals, they are part of the top hiearcy of organized crime in Russia. It would be the same as Al Capone would have made POTUS after organizing a state wide crime syndicate.

 

My point being they dont give a shit about syria, russia or anything other than hard cash. The US probably had their lapdog Germany do the trading with Putin and offered a cash/tech package as compensation.

 

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:17 | 3699232 Dr. Engali
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That's the same way that I see it. The whole world is run by a bunch of criminals and they can get whatever they want if the price is right,

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:19 | 3699243 john39
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i disagree.  Putin has done much to move against zionism, as much as he can...   but, the truth won't be revealed until the missles start flying.  

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:43 | 3699348 YuropeanImbecille
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If putin was not a zionist puppet he would be dead by now.

Putin is a Bolshevik that rose in the communist ranks (just as his friend Angela Merkel). And as we all know Bolshevik = Zionist.

 

Here are some facts for you:

http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-genocide-USSRchristians-usexpeditionaryforce...

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:52 | 3699384 Harbanger
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He's also a chicken thief that stole the superbowl ring.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:07 | 3699437 francis_sawyer
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Vlad didn't steal no Superbowl Ring...

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'Cheesepope' Bob Kraft is now probably the proud owner of a few oil wells down near Azerbaijan... He probably did a 'Silverman' on it too & collected a double indemnity policy on the fucking thing... All Kraft had to do afterwards is what his 'cheesepope' pals do 24/7... Print himself up another ring...

You don't get one cause you don't have any oil leases to give away...

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:14 | 3699469 Harbanger
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Hmmm, good point. 

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:10 | 3699457 ThirdWorldDude
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Pedobear BS alert!

1. There's still folks around that haven't been soulwashed by The Empire's "greed is good" propaganda. (I'll leave it at that. Research why Anatoly Serdyukov got fired if you want to know more about Putin's case)

2. Vlad is far from being a puppet of Zion. Unlike your horsecrap baseless statements, I present (indirect) evidence: remember the Moscow opposition protests? Pussy riots? Heard of any mass rallies in Moscow this year? Guess not, since USAID and the other Zionist tools have been banished from russian soil

Try again, at least that's what imbeciles are good at.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:56 | 3699665 bank guy in Brussels
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Putin is no Zionist, but there are some heavy, strange connections between Russia and Israel

Of the 8 million people in Israel (not counting Palestinian territory occupied by the Zionist thugs)

1.5 million are Arabs within Israel and

1 million of the people in Israel are Russians, who came over in the 1990s when the average Russian was in dire poverty, on the basis they had a Jewish ancestor

Of these 1 million Israeli Jews, maybe half do not consider themselves Jewish, and are often Orthodox Christian in religion ... they went to Israel because it seemed less poor and had warmer weather

Some of these Russian Israelis actually quite hate Jews, put up swastika graffiti in Israel etc

Also, amid that big 1990s Russian migration, a number of KGB agents and sympathisers went to Israel, Russia even supplying them with fake documents about a Jewish ancestor so they could get instant Israeli citizenship under Israel's 'White Jew' programme (Israel rejects Jews from Africa who are black)

Some of these Russian Israelis have headed back home ... but most stay, liking the warmer weather, and they have Russian TV, a Russian-speaking Israeli political party etc

There is also in general the enormously powerful Russian-speaking Jewish mafia, mostly kicked out of Russia to Israel, but still with links to the Russian homeland

It is not all easy to figure out

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 13:03 | 3699692 francis_sawyer
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(+1) Pedobear thinks this is fucking 'Goldeneye'

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Fuck all this century long 'Bolshevik' identification [shit taught to you by some lame ass University professor]... THERE WERE NO FUCKING 'BOLSHEVIKS'...

Let me put that another way... 'Bolsheviks' were the same fucking thing as, say, AIPAC, today... You don't see a whole country of 365 million people rising up like warriors to carry the AIPAC flag... But what you DO see, is a nation of 365 million people who don't give a fuck about anything but the few square feet around them, their entertainment box, and a six pack of beer to drink while they watch it... So, instead of being 'flag carriers'... They are, DE FACTO, 'water carriers'...

The RESULT of 'water carrying nation', over time, is that the small 'Bolshevik Committee' [who squeaked the wheel] gets what it wants in the end... [& what does it want?]... It wants 'instability'... More specifically, it wants the POWER VACUUM that exists AFTER the instability... That is where the overlords of the 'Bolshevik Committee' move in and take what they want...

Thank you for playing...

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 23:23 | 3702282 Bringin It
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You're not explaining the war with the now dead Jewish oligarch Beresovski.

And your link's no good.  No good as in 404 not good.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:19 | 3699242 NotApplicable
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The same holds true for every other country in the world.

Government is but the most organized form of crime.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:21 | 3699254 Triggernometry
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The US doesn't give a shit about Syria either, that's why we're arming groups that massacre entire villages of christians.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:50 | 3699374 Harbanger
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To Barry christians ARE the enemy.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:24 | 3699272 Bobportlandor
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Russia want's the international OK to go after the Islamic terrorist in their sphere of influence, ie Chechnya / Dagestan.

Could they just do it sure but better to have the blessing of the west.

I think what we have here is a good cop bad cop play used to root out the Islamic fanatics.

 

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:39 | 3699331 BadDog
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Debka

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:48 | 3699367 UpAndComing
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Putin will not play ball on the Syria issue as that piece of real estate is way too strategic. Any shifts there would change the entire landscape in the region...and Vladimir doesn't want to give up him his position there. Also, based on what he said about Snowden, he has no interest in getting involved. He said the guy is just flying through and the sooner he flies through the better...so he's hands off on this one.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:29 | 3699460 Calmyourself
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Dr. E rings the bell..  Exactly right what did Gazprom get for vlad to back off in Syria, watch for Gazprom press releases next few months for your answers.  The right to rape all Europeans come winter time will be the buyoff for Syria.  So sorry Assad no s-300 and big Nyet on s-400's, better find a cave to crawl into.

If he is really leaving that is, ed.

Fri, 06/28/2013 - 00:06 | 3702379 EscapingProgress
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The trap has been set. Now the big bad bear waits for Uncle Sam to spring it.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:08 | 3699177 whisperin
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So are they just giving away their naval base at Tartus?

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:17 | 3699234 Headbanger
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It's just a small re-fueling depot. They're probably glad to shut it down and save some money. Why would Russia care about Syria anyway other than wanting to block the completion of the natual gas pipeline from Qatar to Turkey?

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:08 | 3699179 americanspirit
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I think Bebe told Vlad that the shit is about to hit the fan and that he (Bebe) didn't want to hit any Russkies by accident.

 

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:08 | 3699180 Nex
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Russian Defense Ministry denies news of the evacuation of Russian Supply Center personnel at the port of Tartus.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:15 | 3699218 IridiumRebel
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link? 

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:21 | 3699226 CrashisOptimistic
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Yup, sounded like a very shaky report.

There are a lot of forces in play trying to start a war there, mostly from the rebel forces.  They were the source of the probably manufactured evidence that chemical weapons were used by regime forces. 

Those same troops probably pulled strings to get this story out, too.  They are the unnamed Russian military source.  Their perspective is whatever it takes to get the Euro/NATO military to defeat the regime and put themselves into power is a good idea.

http://english.ruvr.ru/news/2013_06_27/Russian-Defense-Ministry-denies-r...

Today, Russian Ministry of Defence asserted that the previous reports on the withdrawal of Russian personnel from the state's military base in Syrian Tartus are false.
Read more: http://english.ruvr.ru/news/2013_06_27/Russian-Defense-Ministry-denies-reports-on-military-withdrawal-from-Syrian-Tartus-7663/

 

The original story is from Debka and a day old.  Shame on you, Tyler.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:26 | 3699282 NotApplicable
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Wait, a Tyler fell for a story on Russia sourced from the Washington Post?

LOLZ

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:35 | 3699314 Bay of Pigs
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The quality of reporting here seems to be going down, like the GW and gay marriage articles yesterday.

 

 

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:53 | 3699395 Herd Redirectio...
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ZH is the community.

What has happened behind the scenes in the last 6-12 months God only knows.

My thoughts are with the Tylers.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:55 | 3699408 NotApplicable
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Better yet, the WP reporter was traveling with Kerry.

Now upgrading my initial LOLZ with LULZ.

Oh well, like it or not, all of us are unwitting disinfo vectors from time to time.

Semper Scepticus!

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:04 | 3699441 Bay of Pigs
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That's sad. Tyler, pull this POS article.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 13:13 | 3699730 Aurora Ex Machina
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Both were targeted at the older, original, demographic (perhaps from the mid west) to let them know they're not forgotten.

 

Which means, of course, you have to have some good old fashioned dust ups in them. I don't mind playing that role, it drives the churn.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:09 | 3699181 francis_sawyer
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Oh shit... Here come the nukes...

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:12 | 3699207 jbvtme
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all kidding assad

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:29 | 3699293 TeamDepends
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Isaiah 17:  Destruction of Damascus

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:26 | 3699510 ParkAveFlasher
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IMHO Throw a dart at the middle east map, you'll hit someplace destined for destruction "as foretold by the prophets".  

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:10 | 3699188 the not so migh...
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you don't want your boats docked if things are going hot, filled up my tank this morning

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:11 | 3699193 sudzee
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Did Karry put flouride in Putins water or was it just the usual threats.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:21 | 3699253 Headbanger
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No. I bet it was a deal made that Putin can keep Snowden for a while so we know where he is and they get to pound the crap out of their own Muslim rebels without us saying peep about it this time.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:17 | 3699198 moonstears
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So Russia, you look tough on "Snowden", leave Syria,we bitch slap Syria boots on the ground, we'll both "harmonize to stabilize", your oil contracts stay in place under "rebel democracy"...we all onboard?

Interesting note on Bible's book Revelations (written by disciple John, whom Jesus called "loved")...Eagle(USA?) and Bear(Russia?) fight the Dragon's(?) million man army.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:24 | 3699267 Headbanger
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Bingo!  You think Russia likes seeing it's neighbor to the east gainining such economic and technical power?  I think they still have some border disputes.  And don't forget about the Chinese troops occupying disputed territory with India now.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:12 | 3699204 buzzsaw99
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the usa is planning to kill more babies, that much is certain

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:19 | 3699246 McMolotov
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It's our solemn duty as world policeman. Let the "liberation" commence.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:22 | 3699261 MsCreant
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I despise marking this comment up, but I had to.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:12 | 3699210 Itgoestoeleven
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putin gave it up for two bottles of stoli and a gymnast

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:29 | 3699223 JustObserving
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Snowden told Russia that Obama will find that Assad used Sarin gas again on July 1, 2013.  The Nobel prize winner will then enforce a no-fly zone.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:16 | 3699228 DeliciousSteak
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If you're familiar with Russian AND American politics, you might have noticed that Putin and Obama share a lot of PR strategies. Almost as if the same people were planning both of their public images, with little twists of course. Putin's specialty is the macho man, Obama is the non-angry black man.

I'm just sayan, maybe the theatrics go a bit deeper than you'd assume at first glance.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:22 | 3699263 NotApplicable
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I'd say it's ALL the same people giving orders to the world "leaders." While Putin at least manages to make his facade appear credible, I can't imagine he makes too many decisions not vetted by certain banking families.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:24 | 3699233 Wile-E-Coyote
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Oh I don't know, nothing ever is as it seems. This maybe a tactical withdrawal, maybe the base is too difficult to defend and moving in large numbers of troops in to do so might give the wrong signal. Just maybe the rebels have been attacking the base, so such a move might seem prudent. I'll believe in capitulation when the Russians weigh anchor and leave.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:20 | 3699241 Kirk2NCC1701
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All talk & bluster, no balls. Pussies!

Bibi just bum-blasted Vlad The Impaled.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:19 | 3699247 IridiumRebel
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So this is what proilly happened......

Russian go for exercises, leave port and some "Western Trained" Rhoiders reporter thinks, "DUDE! They're leaving! Holy Shit. Get My editor on the phone...." Hammers out loosely written "article" on his iphone and 15 minutes later, after no review, it gets published. Yes?

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:26 | 3699278 CrashisOptimistic
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No.

The report came from Debka, who have an accuracy of about 0.1%

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:31 | 3699300 IridiumRebel
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I like my scenario, but ok.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:21 | 3699252 navy62802
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And Russia blinks. Standby for some FLIR images on CNN of shit getting blowed up.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:32 | 3699542 ParkAveFlasher
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fuck yeah!

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:22 | 3699262 CrashisOptimistic
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Today, Russian Ministry of Defence asserted that the previous reports on the withdrawal of Russian personnel from the state's military base in Syrian Tartus are false.
Read more: http://english.ruvr.ru/news/2013_06_27/Russian-Defense-Ministry-denies-reports-on-military-withdrawal-from-Syrian-Tartus-7663/
Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:26 | 3699281 IridiumRebel
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thank you.....

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:26 | 3699277 Seasmoke
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Probably just had to offer Putin Lebron James championship ring.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:29 | 3699290 Divine Wind
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I think this is a wise move on the part of the Russians.

Deep water ports can be rebuilt much faster than warships.

If the conflict is escalating, they will want the standoff distance.

Having their ships and people at sea dramatically reduces the chance of land-based attacks.

 

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:30 | 3699295 Dr. Engali
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Tyler according to RT this story via the Washington post is bullshit.

 

http://rt.com/politics/refutes-reports-evacuation-syria-328/

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:34 | 3699313 CrashisOptimistic
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The story is from worthless Debka.  Only the part about a 16 ship task force is WaPo.

Tyler fucked up.  Nobody's perfect.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:39 | 3699330 IridiumRebel
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Correction: WaPo fucked up. I literally avoid that fucking BS rag like the plague amongst others. Evacuate an entire military port in what is largely the most important area on earth....Fuck yeah right. My fucking 18 month old does better "journalism".

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:32 | 3699539 Reader1
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The first report is always wrong.  Or it usually seems to be.  IF the Russians were to evacuate, I assume it would be for a really good reason.  What would get you to back away from the game in Syria? WMDs?  Threats from the US?  A better deal elsewhere?  Revelation the game was fake/rigged?

Then again, this is Russia we're talking about-they never do things in an obvious way and they take camoflage, or "Maskirovka," to extremes we can't imagine. 

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:32 | 3699304 10mm
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Pussys.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:34 | 3699309 sudzee
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Anyone know the timeline on public disclosure of devious FED deals done during the crisis. I'm sure that is a "tell" ffor the invasion of Iran. The US needs control of syrian skys before Isreal nukes Iran. Just thinkin.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:46 | 3699359 A. Magnus
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Who wants to bet yesterday's gold smackdown was JPM/Goldman paying Putin off with a shitload of cheap physical gold?

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:47 | 3699364 el Gallinazo
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The proof of the pudding vis-a-vis Putin's plans will be how effective the S-300 batteries (soon to include the rave touted S-400) will be on downing Israeli and NATO jets attacking into Syrian territory.  Without air cover, NATO can forget it.  Let al CIAda hang out to dry.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:47 | 3699365 Hannibal
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Obama Requests 15,000 Russian Troops For “Upcoming” Disaster....

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1688.htm

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 11:56 | 3699412 Herd Redirectio...
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Let me let you in on a little secret.  Sorcha Faal is not a real person, and thats not real news.  Disinformation!

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 13:12 | 3699731 bank guy in Brussels
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Sorcha Faal may not be 'reliable' ... she is anonymous like Tyler Durden ... but often fascinating reading :

« ... horrifying information being given to Russian intelligence analysts from Edward Snowden who has been labeled as the most wanted man in the world.

According to one Federal Security Services (FSB) bulletin on their continued debriefing of Snowden, and analysis of the information he has provided Russian intelligence officers, his father, Lonnie Snowden, was an officer in the US Coast Guard during the 11 September 2001 attacks on the United States who had “direct knowledge” of the true events that occurred and whom the real perpetrators were.

Being directly affected by the events of 9/11, this FSB bulletin says, Snowden "self initiated" a multi-year effort to gain access to America’s top secrets, a mission which when recently completed led him to contact various international reporters, including ...

reporter Michael Hastings who was killed while attempting to reach the safety of the Israeli Consulate in Los Angeles ... Hastings assassination by the Obama regime »

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1688.htm

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 18:37 | 3701246 lesamourai
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Sorcha Faal is the pseudonym of web-fiction author David Booth.  It is all fantasy.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:26 | 3699511 Essential Intel...
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This statement is not to be believed in its literal form and rather repeats a typical Soviet immediate readiness for war. On previous occasions this statement was made by Moscow, it was found after the war that the Soviet presence and participation at all levels and aspects of the war was immense. Details here: http://essential-intelligence-network.blogspot.com/2013/06/is-middle-east-on-eve-of-war-between.html

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:26 | 3699512 robertocarlos
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"And stay out of the way of the bullets", good advice.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:32 | 3699538 Fuku Ben
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Strategic withdrawal

They'll put on a better act before they turn over Syria

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:33 | 3699546 bluskyes
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It's probably just a measure to prevent radiation poisoning in the near future.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:37 | 3699568 Lady Heather...UNCLE
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The Washington Post Company...half its annual revenue comes from Kaplan Inc and 90% of ITS revenue comes from Uncle Sam. So, still think The Washington Post is a disinterested 'fourth estate'?

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:47 | 3699607 tony wilson
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if mossad and mi6 want to do a false flag bang they have to go to sea see.

putin did not like the idea of a burnt out ship in tartus.

snowdon is the distraction false flag soon then mcain gets his war for freedom.

now  alquaeda bin ladin boyz  are with us in syria  how will they be the bogeyman next time.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 13:20 | 3699756 Aurora Ex Machina
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I do hope you realize that algos can parse the fake baby language just fine. Hiding via stylistic methods hasn't been successful for a while now (you have to hit them with semantic drift & conceptual fuzz nowadays).

 

But yeah, it's cute, nice little signature.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 23:37 | 3702317 Bringin It
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I say make them work for it.  Burn more cycles.

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 12:54 | 3699649 Uncle Remus
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"tactical"

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 13:17 | 3699740 Aurora Ex Machina
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This is just the WP (USA propaganda) stirring the pot against this move by the Russians:

 

Financially strapped Cyprus is looking at allowing Russian military aircraft to use an airbase in Paphos, the country's defense minister said this weekend.

Cypriot Defense Minister Fotis Fotiu told the Nicosia daily Fileleftheros the country was "studying the possibility of providing in certain cases" the use of the Andreas Papandreou Air Force Base for Russian military aircraft.

He also indicated allowing Russian warships to use the port of Limassol was under consideration, less than two weeks after Russian President Vladimir Putin announced the restoration of a permanent presence for the Russian fleet in the Mediterranean.

Fotiu said the possible moves were discussed during his recent meeting in Moscow with Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, as well as at a Thursday meeting in St. Petersburg between Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Cypriot counterpart Ioannis Kasoulides. [source 2 days ago]

 

Just basic sniping, and very weak at that, nothing to see here folks. Russia getting a Cypriot base has always been the plan (look a way back, odd explosions in confiscated weapon dumps).

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 13:24 | 3699765 marcusfenix
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there is currently something like 8 different versions of this story floating around the internet right now...

some say complete evac, others are claiming partial, others deny any such evac at all, yet another is reporting some kind of swap out is taking place in Tartus.

whatever is going on, there is suddenly a lot of conflicting info bumping around about significant Russian military movements in the region, which I would imagine is intentional.

is it just me or has anybody else noticed that media reports about what is happening in and around Aleppo, where the govt has launched operation northern storm has suddenly gone dark? that is certainly a reason to raise the eyebrows a bit.

if the Russians have not abandoned Tartus, but have put out to sea that is significant. also does this alleged withdrawal include the zaslon and spesnatz forces that are rumored to be in the country? typically these forces are inserted to an area months before a military conflict starts and there purpose is to generally wreak havoc behind enemy lines.  

do these reports, in all there conflicting and uncertain statements represent a decrease in tensions?

or  is it the opposite, a deliberate misinformation campaign as this proxy war spirals inevitably towards a real, full blown east vs west regional and then world war?

I would like to say we average people can count on our leaders to avoid such a calamity, that "cooler heads will prevail."

but then I would be lying to myself, as we all know better.  

 

Thu, 06/27/2013 - 13:39 | 3699825 MeelionDollerBogus
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A lot of news is B.S. If this is NOT ... Russia has caved for much worse reasons than what is mentioned.

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