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Multiple Government Agencies Are Keeping Records Of Your Credit Card Transactions

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Submitted by Michael Snyder of The Economic Collapse blog,

Were you under the impression that your credit card transactions are private?  If so, I am sorry to burst your bubble.  As you will see below, there are actually multiple government agencies that are gathering and storing records of your credit card transactions.  And in turn, those government agencies share that information with other government agencies that want it.  So if you are making a purchase that you don't want anyone to know about, don't use a credit card. 

This is one of the reasons why the government hates cash so much.  It is just so hard to track.  In this day and age, the federal government seems to be absolutely obsessed with gathering as much information about all of us as it possibly can.  But there is one big problem.  What they are doing directly violates the U.S. Constitution.  For those that are not familiar with it, the following is what the Fourth Amendment actually says:

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." 

Unfortunately, the Fourth Amendment is essentially dead at this point.  The federal government is investigating all of us and gathering information on all of us all day, every day without end.

Many Americans have never even heard of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, but Judicial Watch has discovered that they are spending millions of dollars to collect and analyze our financial transactions...

Judicial Watch announced today that it has obtained records from the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) revealing that the agency has spent millions of dollars for the warrantless collection and analysis of Americans’ financial transactions. The documents also reveal that CFPB contractors may be required to share the information with “additional government entities.”

Judicial Watch was able to obtain some absolutely shocking documents thanks to a Freedom of Information Act request that it filed in April.  The following is a summary of some of the things those documents show...

  • Overlapping contracts with multiple credit reporting agencies and accounting firms to gather, store, and share credit card data as shown in the task list of a contract with Argus Information & Advisory Services LLC worth $2.9 million
  • A provision stipulating that “The contractor recognizes that, in performing this requirement, the Contractor may obtain access to non-public, confidential information, Personally Identifiable Information (PII), or proprietary information.”
  • A stipulation that “The Contractor may be required to share credit card data collected from the Banks with additional government entities as directed by the Contracting Officer’s Representative (COR).”

How do you feel about the fact that the government has contracts with "multiple credit reporting agencies and accounting firms to gather, store, and share credit card data"?

How do you feel about the fact that your credit card data and other "non-public, confidential information" may be shared with "additional government entities"?

Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton put it very well when he said that this "warrantless collection of the private financial information of millions of Americans is mind-blowing.  Is there anything that this administration thinks it can’t do?"

But of course the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau is not the only one keeping records of your credit card transactions.

We have also recently learned that the NSA is doing it too.  The following is from a recent Time Magazine article...

Networks are most likely giving the government “metadata.” That is, the credit card issuers could provide the NSA details such as an account or card number, where and when a purchase was made, and for how much. Even though the exact items purchased aren’t revealed, Brian Krebs, who blogs at KrebsOnSecurity.com, says “merchant category codes” in such data give clues about what was bought.

 

If the NSA is collecting data at the processor level, “at that point the transaction gets cleared and posts to an account, so, yes, you can track it down to a person,” Aufsesser says.

 

The NSA conceivably could — and probably would — be able get the names of individual account holders from banks issuing credit cards. ”I don’t see how you would anonymize it,” says Al Pascual, senior analyst for security, risk and fraud for Javelin Strategy & Research.

We are rapidly becoming a "Big Brother society" where the government tracks virtually every move that we make.

And don't think that you can escape this by not using credit cards or by staying off of the Internet.  The truth is that we are being tracked in hundreds of different ways.

For example, have you heard of automated license plate readers?

They are being installed on police vehicles all over the nation, and the amount of information that they are gathering on all of us is frightening.

A computer security consultant named Michael Katz-Lacabe asked the city of San Leandro, California for a record of every time that these license plate readers had scanned his vehicle, and what he discovered absolutely stunned him...

The paperback-size device, installed on the outside of police cars, can log thousands of license plates in an eight-hour patrol shift. Katz-Lacabe said it had photographed his two cars on 112 occasions, including one image from 2009 that shows him and his daughters stepping out of his Toyota Prius in their driveway.

 

That photograph, Katz-Lacabe said, made him “frightened and concerned about the magnitude of police surveillance and data collection.” The single patrol car in San Leandro equipped with a plate reader had logged his car once a week on average, photographing his license plate and documenting the time and location.

 

At a rapid pace, and mostly hidden from the public, police agencies throughout California have been collecting millions of records on drivers and feeding them to intelligence fusion centers operated by local, state and federal law enforcement.

Most Americans do not even know that these devices exist, but they have been "collecting millions of records" and feeding them into law enforcement databases all over the nation.

In San Diego alone, more than 36 million license plate scans have been fed into a regional database just since 2010...

In San Diego, 13 federal and local law enforcement agencies have compiled more than 36 million license-plate scans in a regional database since 2010 with the help of federal homeland security grants. The San Diego Association of Governments maintains the database. Like the Northern California database, the San Diego system retains the data for between one and two years.

 

“License-plate data is clearly identifiable to specific individuals,” said Lee Tien, a senior staff attorney at the Electronic Frontier Foundation. “This is like having your barcode tracked.”

Is this the kind of society that we want to become?

Do we really want the police to be taking millions of photographs of us?

Do we really want all of our financial transactions to be fed directly into federal databases?

Do we really want the government to track every phone call we make and every email we send?

As I wrote about recently, it has been documented that literally thousands of companies have been handing over customer data to the NSA.

Is this the kind of legacy that we want to leave for our children and our grandchildren?

Fortunately, it appears that at least some Americans are waking up to all of this.

According to a brand new Rasmussen survey, 56 percent of likely voters in the United States now believe that the federal government is a threat to individual rights...

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 56% of Likely U.S. Voters now consider the federal government a threat to individual rights rather than a protector of those rights. That’s up 10 points from 46% in December.

 

While 54% of liberal voters consider the feds to be a protector of individual rights, 78% of conservatives and 49% of moderates see the government as a threat.

 

Overall, only 30% believe the feds today are a protector of individual rights. Fourteen percent (14%) are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

If the American people do not stand up and demand change, the people that are constantly violating our privacy are going to continue to do so.

Sadly, the vast majority of the politicians in both major political parties seem to think that there is nothing wrong with the status quo.  So I wouldn't expect any major changes in the short-term.  But hopefully government surveillance will start to become such a major issue with the American people that the politicians will be forced to start addressing it.

 

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Sun, 06/30/2013 - 17:47 | 3708417 10mm
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Well im ready to default,they keeping track of that.Fuckin DICK HEADS.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 17:53 | 3708432 DaddyO
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Looks like the rabbit hole has turned into a wormhole...

How deep it runs is anybody's guess, we'll know in the fullness of time.

DaddyO

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 18:11 | 3708476 nmewn
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Well we know where this particular worm (the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau) came from.

Dodd-Frankenstein.

Never let a crisis go to waste.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 18:18 | 3708506 jbvtme
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TD...this shit is getting depressing.  can't you post some stories about turtles or dolphins or enviros pushing some beached whales back out to sea?

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 18:19 | 3708511 Chupacabra-322
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Keep your chip up & take the fight to them. Add this disclaimer to all transmissions:

WARNING: The National Security Agency is likely recording and storing this communication as part of its Criminal unlawful spying programs on all Americans … and people worldwide. The people who created the NSA spying program say that this communication – and any responses – can and will be used against the American people at any time in the future should folks in government decide to go after us for political reasons. And private information in digital communications may be given to big companies by the government.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 18:23 | 3708523 Clint Liquor
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"What they are doing directly violates the U.S. Constitution."

Isn't that cute? He still believes the US has a Constitution.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 19:07 | 3708622 sunaJ
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The goal is to track everybody, everywhere, at all times and to be able to have whatever current or historical information they need to neutralize you.  We have a few primates deciding what billions of other primates are threats to their control.  This will lead to complete neutralization or destruction of those that do not applaud the system and demonstrate their loyalty to it (the proverbial snake eating its tail).

Nothing that should fail will be allowed to fail if it threatens the downfall of their system.  Dissent to the system itself - or even suspicion of it - will be openly enforced by the surveillance state.  They want to be able to neutralize you at a moment's notice for whatever actions they decide you will take against them.  Those advancing their purposes and proving themselves the most loyal to the system will be given the best scraps from the table. Those that do not applaud the system, are in the way, or fall under suspicion will be neutralized in whatever manner they decide.  That is their plan.   Perfect surveillance with as few primate brains as possible making policy decisions.  It is the ultimate expression of the statist mindset, and  for most, perfect adulation of it will become a fear-driven means of survival.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 19:14 | 3708649 Skateboarder
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At first it won't be a "zero-tolerance" policy, i.e. you will get a couple of strikes before you're out. Eventually it will be zero-tolerance and even negative-tolerance. Enjoy the good times with your friends and family while they still last.

Drink every Sierra Nevada Pale Ale like it's your goddamn last. :)

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 21:01 | 3708853 DoChenRollingBearing
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Here are a some practical techniques to slow them down.  Like the English guy wrote here at ZH the other night, we can't beat them, buy we can make ourselves more of a pain-in-the-ass and/or oterwise fly a bit more under the radar:

1) Never pay for booze, cigarrettes, etc with a credit or debit card.

2) Take pictures of cop cars that annoy (those who speed for example), document that, mail that in anonymlously...

3) Find out addresses of any .gov types who annoy you, learn about them...

4) Act stupid when caught for anything, really dumb, slow 'em down...

5) I look forward to hearing more such suggestions here at Club ZH...

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 21:03 | 3708869 The Thunder Child
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As always the main stream media is not reporting on the most damning part of the NSA spy story. It’s even much MUCH worse then most are reporting...

Russ Tice an NSA whistle blower has revealed for the first time how the NSA has been targeting and wiretapping US politicians, supreme court judges and high ranking military officials since 2001.

In an interview entitled “NSA Whistleblower Russ Tice Alleges NSA  Wiretapped Barack Obama as Senate Candidate” Russ Tice recently  explained to FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds the real purpose of the NSA’s illegal spying on Americans: To collect blackmail material and other information that can be used to control influential citizens.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPyxeqcCjkc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfXxl0PX__g

Worse yet, Tice’s revelations raise even more troubling issues. Tice and his NSA whistleblower colleagues revealed that the NSA’s massive, illegal spy-on Americans program began in February, 2001 – seven months BEFORE the 9/11 attacks! As Andrew Harris reported for Bloomberg in July, 2006:

“The US National Security Agency asked AT&T Inc. to help it set up a domestic call monitoring site seven months before the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, lawyers claimed June 23 in court papers filed in New York federal court… ‘The Bush Administration asserted this became necessary after 9/11,’ plaintiff’s lawyer Carl Mayer said in a telephone interview. ‘This undermines that assertion.”’

The Bottom Line?

The entire US government has been subverted through the use of blackmail and extortion.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/06/29/nsa-spy-scandal-its-even-worse-t...

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 21:32 | 3708947 Zer0head
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"Were you under the impression that your credit card transactions are private?"

 

WTF what kind of tard would think that?

 

The peron who processes it in the store,

Your neighbor who gets your mail by mistake

The outsourced operator who reminds you about the $1899 charge at Geddy's 6 weeks ago

Equifax and your next employer who is interested in your purchases from ABC fine Liquors, Spirits and Wine

 

You would have to be a total dumb fck to think the sht you put on your card is in any way private. 

(that's why cash is king and why .gov and their corporate masters want to go cashless)

 

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 23:45 | 3709170 markmotive
Mon, 07/01/2013 - 00:18 | 3709217 Oh regional Indian
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Eminent domain bitches. Eminent domain. Our minds, our bodies are all eminent domain. The master owns the sLave.

When black's law dictionary defines a human being as a "Sea Monster", you know we've got problems.

Chattle, Cattle, not much difference there.

Here is your Bill of Wrongs. The Man is actually a person. A person is a fiction.

The lie with-in a lie. Corpse-o-ration is king, king-maker, king-disposer.

Dead men walking, talking, laughing as the world turns, burns, churns. Eyes wide-shut, but, but.... we are free, the land is free, we are the new world, the first world....the beacon of in-sanity, we are locked, we are loaded, surely we will win. Again.

As if you won the first time, or even the second or the third.

Time to wake the fuck up.

ori

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com

Mon, 07/01/2013 - 07:32 | 3709474 kralizec
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Some may wake up when the shooting starts...maybe...

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 22:42 | 3709058 Lore
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Re: "WTF what kind of tard would think that?"

Yah -- Exactly -- Like the morons who post intimate details of their lives on social media. Psychopaths are going to exploit you, folks.

The solution is simple: CASH. CASH. CASH.  If you can't calculate change in your head, type the numbers into that stupid smartphone hanging beside your crotch. 

It's a desperate government that feels motivated to track all credit card transactions. Can you imagine anything more boring?  There will be red flags for weird stuff, but the vast majority of commercie is TRIVIAL...  Until it isn't.  I was reading today about currency instability manifesting as shortages in certain consumer goods.  Picture a society where you get a warning if you surpass your monthly allocation of bread, et cetera.  In a totalitarian state predisposed toward control and away from markets, that may be precisely the idea.

Mon, 07/01/2013 - 04:17 | 3709355 Acet
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+1 This

Keep in mind that anything that goes into a database will in practice be stored forever and will sooner or later (if not immediatelly) be shared with someone else.

And this is not just Governments: private companies are in the game too and have been for many years (personal information is routinelly traded).

Another thing to keep in mind is that, even if the information is not yet linked (for example, VISA has an entry for a credit card payment at a store which has your name and the store has an entry for what was bought but no name), it will sooner or later be brought under the same roof and cross-linked. I hope your pattern of purchasing toiled paper (or whatever) doesn't make you a suspect terrorist.

The point is to avoid anything which will be automatically processed and can be linked to you name: credit card payments, store customer cards, anywhere where you have to give your SSN (or equivalent). Also remember that if you use a personal identifiable payment method to pay for an anonymous pay as you go anything (for example, topping up a pre-paid public transport card or phone card with your credit card) it will make the later not anonymous anymore

[PS: for example, you can get an Oyster card to use public transport in London anonymously (by paying in cash). This is pre-paid and can be topped up. It is actually just an electronic token (touch card with a short-range wireless microchip) to a central system which keeps track of all the trips that are taken on public transport including in and out times and locations. If you EVER top one of these up with a debit or credit card, all that travel history is now linked to you by name]

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 23:57 | 3709192 seek
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6) Pull the battery of your cell phone, leave it at home, etc.

7) Carpool with friends after doing that. That license plate scanner won't mean shit if it's for someone else's car

8) encrypt your communications wherever possible. Since they're listening anyway, might as well keep them awake at night.

FxC1KJWaPVLc68Wp47Xb6SXaFJLEh2qTZLUdXIW2zLfWk6RXW8ZPZW27ZXFKuuVcoqtstUVduauW
bcdrrN3froq0q0Ou617WstkV1Urlrd2ZV2rRtUJy6JRlbGGkaY71kmZUq2eUqrLpGnrba9Md2tRO
Vu2Lt61VVWNZaVZRZSqV114yzNzpLfF+zm8T1mdD5tWWcNqq57Ugt0TSVHWXZzPNtY01Xd0Nvc2s
lqJTXrKlVR1Spo3XY40rpSeQtavTa5JiyvFIyu7FKSlsrZVPTdTqxJyDkVaMyd1rc24yabbEOrHm
JZLsqcS6st3UnVEizeuR66u2KrntFeCjrVps59yupLdLHcjltS9kuut062syj0zUs1FWCejbLNTO

(Decoding tip! It's base64, and it's a one-time pad generated from a random number source using radioactive decay of Cs 137. Good luck with that, my snoopy friends!)

 

Mon, 07/01/2013 - 04:32 | 3709364 Acet
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The problem with encryption using one-time pads is that the key is as long as the message and has to be passed to the recipient using a secure channel (usually physical delivery).

Also the key cannot be reused, ever. That's where the "one-time" part of the name comes from.

Somehow I suspect your CS 137 decay random key has been reused often - unless you and you alone have access to a source of CS 137 decay data and never used it before.

 

(PS: Base64 is not an encryption mechanism, it's just a very common way by which binary data is encoded so that can be represented as human readable text, used in things like sending files as attachments in e-mails. The actual "encryption" is most likelly just XOR between the bytes of the message and those of the one-time pad key)

(PPS: There are other sources of true random data which can be used - for example, most electronic components will have some noise at very small levels which can be amplified and used as a source of random data. In fact, many of the things in nature which can be sampled digitally - for example, the sound of a stream - will, if you only use the lowest value bit, be a great source of randomness)

 

Mon, 07/01/2013 - 04:41 | 3709369 Bearwagon
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All correct - but if (big if) the one-time pad is delivered through a secure channel and is only used once, it cannot be decrypted. (This being the sole reason one-time pads aren't replacable.)

Mon, 07/01/2013 - 08:53 | 3709650 seek
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Another nice feature of one-time pads (due to the above) is that if you delete the key, the message is irretrievably lost for all eternity.

 

Mon, 07/01/2013 - 09:02 | 3709681 seek
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I have my own Cs 137 source (along with the requisite decay detectors) for key generation, and the base64 comment was just to provide the encoding (not encryption) discussion. I use it for low-bit-rate QRNG, I have thermal noise sources for higher bit rate generation but went with the gold standard for this example.

Mon, 07/01/2013 - 01:14 | 3709275 SillySalesmanQu...
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@ D.C.R.B.

Suggestion # 9 : Tyler....How about starting ZeroHedge T.V. News...? Look at all the help and resources that we could investigate and report on...most of us already research and provide links...? MDB could be counted on for comedy and someone you could throw eggs at...

Mon, 07/01/2013 - 04:27 | 3709363 Overflow-admin
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6. See what they do, not what they say.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 19:20 | 3708663 Chupacabra-322
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@ sunaJ,

I have a couple of neutralizers myself.  One is an M4 the other a .45acp. 

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 19:50 | 3708714 sunaJ
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Yes, well, I figure that as long as it is obvious that they are planning for some sort of national emergency as the next annihilator of liberty, I can only strive to be Minute-Man prepared as well.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 20:10 | 3708766 draug
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This is why we need bitcoin.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 20:40 | 3708793 TuesdayBen
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The groundwork has been laid for the USA to go overtly full-tilt TOTALITARIAN upon occurence of a major 'crisis' which shan't be 'wasted'...

Plan accordingly, regardless of nationality/citizenship.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 20:41 | 3708818 DaddyO
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Roger That...

DaddyO

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 23:57 | 3709191 Vendetta
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I already thought it was totalitarian ... my bad

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 20:59 | 3708862 DoChenRollingBearing
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I missed that one Chupacabra, I will be getting lots more AK ammo and 9 mm in the coming days now that prices have come down some and availability is up.

 

+ 1

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 21:07 | 3708882 Chupacabra-322
Sun, 06/30/2013 - 21:08 | 3708884 Ghostmaker
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http://www.gunbot.net/ammo/

 

check out this helpfull link.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 21:23 | 3708927 Chupacabra-322
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Or here.

http://www.luckygunner.com/

Check out Federal JHP 124grain. Best JHP on the market. Criminal FBI approved.

Mon, 07/01/2013 - 00:38 | 3709246 snr-moment
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One wonders how hard would it be to put a tiny transmitter, mixed in with the powder of every, say thousandth round of 7.62 and then plot wherever 2 or 3 transmitters become adjacent.

 

That's what I would do.

 

11)   Start lending phones and computers to your friends and their friends.  Sort of like "here, seriously, use mine".  If everyone did that......

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 21:54 | 3708983 gearbaby
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Escape to Ecuador...NOW!

http://yourescapetoecuador.com/

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 23:27 | 3709145 DoChenRollingBearing
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Peru seems to have gotten over its leftist nonsense after so many years of suffering.  Ecuador has not been far emough down that trail yet.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 22:30 | 3709052 Go Tribe
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So the head of the NSA is going to track me everwhere all the time, eh? Just wait'll I start fucking his wife, then we'll see how he likes reading those emails.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 19:12 | 3708636 redwater
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Once the final pretense that the Constitution is still valid, finally fades - then the empire will figure out that it was the one wall, the one contract that would have kept them from the nooses.

 

 

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 19:14 | 3708647 HelluvaEngineer
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I agree with you.  It's time that everyone comes to terms with an era without rule of law.

Mon, 07/01/2013 - 10:15 | 3709897 PTR
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There will be rule of law- for the ruled.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 18:42 | 3708558 fleur de lis
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Jim Stone says they're looking at more than that. His 6/26 & 27 posts say that they can monitor conversations in your car, remote control a car with antilock brakes, and he suggests covering your computer webcam when not in use.  

http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/

The NSA has turned into a gaggle of gossipy washer women hags on crack.

 

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 18:50 | 3708579 jbvtme
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can they see me choking poultry in my lounge chair?

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 19:24 | 3708671 Clayton Bigsby
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That's why I taped over my webcam with tape a long time ago - and there it stays. I got enough shit to deal with - I don't need any wank video out there flyin around cyberspace...

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 19:36 | 3708702 Bollixed
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"I don't need any wank video out there flyin around cyberspace..."

Oh c'mon, look at the bright side... at least then you'd have a shot at becoming Mayor of New York City...

Mon, 07/01/2013 - 00:43 | 3709255 snr-moment
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Screw that.  Buy a panasonic chinese made microwave and run it.  They leak so much microwave, it renders all routers nearby useless.  Almost the same frequency.

 

So don't stand near them.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 21:20 | 3708920 Moe Howard
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Yes, and they asked me to tell you to stop doing that because Obamao care won't pay for hair removal from your palms.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 20:03 | 3708756 whosetosay
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I am all for this and logged in (usually a lurker) just for this... can we tweak it a bit with you don't have my permission?

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 20:50 | 3708838 MsCreant
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I would not be allowed to run that message on my main email account. We are not allowed to use our email account for anything considered "political" or we could lose our jobs. 

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 21:35 | 3708952 Zer0head
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where would you draw the line?

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 21:04 | 3708877 spankfish
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You forgot fluffy bunnies.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 23:08 | 3709107 mofreedom
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a beached whale eating an enviro...fixed it for ya.

Mon, 07/01/2013 - 01:43 | 3709297 ebear
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Or how about some rescued bear cubs that were safely returned to their mother?  That would be nice.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 18:23 | 3708516 OutLookingIn
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Why inconvenience ourselves?

The obverse of sliding into the darkness and off the grid is staying with it.

If information is what they want and are after? Then give it to them! In spades!

An avalanche. An info perfect storm. A tsunami. A flood of biblical proportions. So much in fact that their systems crash from information overload. Kinda like if everyone flushes their toilet at the start of half time during the superbowl. Result? A fairly shitty situation!   

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 18:31 | 3708544 DaddyO
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+1

I woke up this morning thinking this very idea...

We need to pick up the influx of useless transactions, start dialing all the .gov switchboards from a pay phone if you can find one, start placing online transactions at .gov websites and not finishing them, compile all the .gov emails you can find and add them to spambots, just annoying things like that.

I'm not very tech saavy so some of you younger people can chime in with things that will gum up the works...

DaddyO

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 18:45 | 3708568 nmewn
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Doing my best diversion...how to make a car bomb!!!

Flood them ;-)

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 19:12 | 3708641 kaiserhoff
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I prefer a literary approach.

Just title some random list as "Rules and Procedures for Drum Head Treason Trials," and email it to a few thousand random people.  That should elevate blood pressure among the fucktard set.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 19:34 | 3708695 nmewn
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Or on every dollar bill write REVOLUTION...in red.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 21:29 | 3708939 Dr. No
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Caution. This will provide the reason to outlaw currency.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 21:54 | 3708982 nmewn
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Mmm, good point...its what they really REALLY want, an electronic currency, for control.

Its a digital mine field too though, its not the owner, its who owns or has access to, the account at some point in time ;-)

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 22:13 | 3709021 Blano
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I'm stealing that idea.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 23:07 | 3709106 Skateboarder
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Yeah, I'd go with Dr. No. No reason to expedite the death of cash through being a smartass.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 23:20 | 3709132 mofreedom
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just dont buy that red sharpie with a cc...else, cliam you picked the wrong day to not stop huffing markers.

Mon, 07/01/2013 - 01:54 | 3709305 ebear
ebear's picture

Will pay to a bear on demand.

 

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 23:18 | 3709124 mofreedom
mofreedom's picture

http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/30/lol-jk-texas-teen-faces-8-...

some drunk commie canuck can ruin ya, God help us all...

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 20:12 | 3708770 Help Is Not Coming
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Hmm. What if you printed out put something that looked like a license plate, had the numbers and letters in the right format, but wasn't a license plate on the back of your car. The cops would recognize that it wasn't a license plate but the comptuer would not. Change them everyday or at least weekly. Might be interesting to say the least.

Expect the lawyers to start subponea these records in divorce cases, criminal defense cases, etc. Might be the perfect alibi.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 18:34 | 3708551 SRSrocco
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There's a great deal of RIF-RAF the Govt does to screw up its citizens.... one is its money.  I just put together this article on the PRIMARY SILVER MINERS BREAK EVEN... and let me tell you that at current silver prices, just about the WHOLE DAMN PRIMARY SILVER MINING INDUSTY would go kapput.

 

Can the Primary Miners Survive $18 Silver?
Sun, 06/30/2013 - 19:02 | 3708615 putaipan
putaipan's picture

tha's right nmewn .... you been out looking for work lately? the "credit report authorization" forms are inevitable. 2nd page- your arrest record. and wtf? credit report. mine might not be so good....but i also don't have any debt, another strike, they only hire good indentured serfs.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 19:46 | 3708725 nmewn
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Credit report?...geesh.

Thats right up there with inanities such as...if you drop out of high school we'll withold your drivers license.

I mean WTF...a kid says the hell with, school ain't for me, I want to be my own man...and they take away his ability to make a buck?

And if someone says "mass transit" I'll hunt you down and force you to carry his tools on the bus ;-)

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 23:17 | 3709122 Skateboarder
Skateboarder's picture

Completely fucked up times and people are alright with it, because gas is still 4 bucks a pop and people at large, even in India and China, are lazy motherfucking pieces of shit who would drive a quarter mile down the road. And everyone's got debt now, EVERYONE, EVERYWHERE. It is assumed you are some kind of alien fuckwad if you decide not to take on debt or decide not to take on "education."

Time for us to find a new planet brotha.

Mon, 07/01/2013 - 06:08 | 3709395 nmewn
nmewn's picture

We could always just take this one back my brutha ;-)

I don't know what the triggering event will be but the level of discontent is growing daily...seemingly worldwide.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 21:57 | 3708991 auntiesocial
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Yeah, the mrs. and I used to joke about going off grid within 24 months. now, we are not laughing. I do not choose to be in a metropolitan area if I can avoid it when Bernkakke's ponzi scheme goes up in flames mid 2014. 

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 22:38 | 3709070 eatthebanksters
eatthebanksters's picture

Gotta protect those TBTF banks at all costs...

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 21:52 | 3708779 scrappy
scrappy's picture

Let's end this madness.

Our challenges are great.

Ut oh? Problem? You bet.

http://news.goldseek.com/GoldenJackass/1370376300.php

Solution?

That's up to us.

This Important Article that captures what "Geo-Economics" is.

https://libertyrevival.wordpress.com/2011/01/09/ending-poverty-and-polit...

Great "to the point" Chart Graphic 

http://www.henrygeorge.org/isms.htm

The Georgist proposal is different from left, right, and muddy middle ideologies in that it makes a distinction between the unearned income of land (rent) and the earned incomes of labor and capital (wages and interest). Rent to society, wages and interest to the individuals who earned them. 

The proper spheres of society and the individual are clarified.

The Georgist proposal achieves the goal of "left-wingers" for security and social action, but without restrictions on liberty.

It achieves the goal of "right-wingers" to attain freedom, but without privilege and monopoly.

And it achieves a balanced system sought by "middle-of-the-roaders," but in a just rather than arbitrary way.

The "Third Way"

The "Last ditch" of Capitalism. Excellent.

http://schalkenbach.org/rsf-1/on-line-library/works-by-robert-v-andelson...

End TBTF and monoploly crony fascism.

Add DATA RIGHTS to the mix, shake once, now add a heaping spoon of TRANSPARENCY, then reduce in a separate pot all of the wasteful regulations and laws we have.

Also - Corps aren't people and money is not free speech.

RESTORE THE RULE OF LAW AND THE CONSTITUTION.

SIMPLIFY _ SURVIVE _ THEN THRIVE

Get involved fellow citizens, notice citizens is not in caps.

Everything we do in this crazy historic time matters.

Do not be afraid.

Take heart my friends.

The time to decide and prepare is NOW.

Good luck to all.

Woof!

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 22:46 | 3709078 Go Tribe
Go Tribe's picture

Good heavens, the NSA has a fucking Kids Page!

http://www.nsa.gov/kids/home.shtml

 

Mon, 07/01/2013 - 00:39 | 3709249 andrewp111
andrewp111's picture

They have a nice museum too.

Mon, 07/01/2013 - 04:02 | 3709350 Yes We Can. But...
Yes We Can. But Lets Not.'s picture

Does it have a display about what life was like in America before the statist Goons came?

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 18:00 | 3708449 prains
prains's picture

New VISA ad;

 

Buy a M1 Tank for the great reset, $5,645,729.00

Fill it full of Ammo, $989,443.89

Drive it through the flaming wreck of the NSA...........Priceless

 

 

did i just say that ? why are there red dots all over my place

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 18:08 | 3708463 Sudden Debt
Sudden Debt's picture

relax Pawn 453.987... show us where your friends live...

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 18:42 | 3708530 prains
prains's picture

MDB made me do it.....(crying like 12 yr old girl), it's like a red light disco in here.....Daft Punk is that yoooooooo

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 18:50 | 3708577 Midasking
Midasking's picture

Wondering if there will ever be a final straw or will the sheeple never stand up.. http://tinyurl.com/pp588mj

Mon, 07/01/2013 - 00:34 | 3709241 Antifaschistische
Antifaschistische's picture

Just purchase your gold with cash advances only...

Mon, 07/01/2013 - 00:43 | 3709254 MagicHandPuppet
MagicHandPuppet's picture

@10mm - I had this "friend" who defaulted on over $60K of credit card debt.  When approaching charge off on these cards (before the 180 day point), the credit card companies got really eager to settle with him for as low as 20-25% of the total debt.  Oh, and this "friend" said that a very big majority of that credit card debt was from buying a bunch of silver and gold american eagles... just before losing them all in a tragic boating accident.  So sad.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 17:48 | 3708418 IridiumRebel
IridiumRebel's picture

I buy gold. That's the extent of it. My wife buys useless shit. That's my file. Any questions?

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 18:12 | 3708482 Sudden Debt
Sudden Debt's picture

I deleted my Ebay account last week. I also asked how long my records where being kept... sir we don't keep records.... and than the site says 2 years if you tell them you want them erased after that.
I wonder how many people write a letter to let them delete your files... and if they actually do it after that....

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 18:16 | 3708502 LetThemEatRand
LetThemEatRand's picture

Doesn't matter if they (delete it).  NSA has it all on file.  Foreover.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 18:35 | 3708555 RaceToTheBottom
RaceToTheBottom's picture

I forgot my Password to a few accounts.  THE NSA should answer those types of queries for a price.  I would pay it.....  Friging do away with the deficit in no time....

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 20:06 | 3708759 noob
noob's picture

oh yeah...
what are the odds the NSA help reconstruct missing / deleted emails of shady politicians?

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 21:42 | 3708963 CH1
CH1's picture

... of shady politicians?

Ummm... are there any other kind?

Mon, 07/01/2013 - 06:51 | 3709411 Svendblaaskaeg
Svendblaaskaeg's picture

"Doesn't matter if they (delete it). NSA has it all on file. Foreover."

really, no shit?

att: NSA - Could you please supply me with a copy of homer.zip? - it was a hilarious Simpson sound mod for Doom I that I lost in a tragic harddisk accident year 2005, btw, if you get a virus allert dont mind the dmaud.exe, it was squiky clean when I zipped it

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 18:28 | 3708515 prains
prains's picture

if you THINK it you're fucked, you're eyeballs will be retinally scanned with facial recognition software alerting the authorities to your dark secrets

 

Winston! TOUCH YOUR TOES

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 18:15 | 3708497 espirit
espirit's picture

Only one.  Wonder why I felt I was alone in the pain of marriage?

 

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 18:22 | 3708514 Troll Magnet
Troll Magnet's picture

let that be a lesson, young lads: al bundy was right. marriage sucks.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 18:42 | 3708565 Sudden Debt
Sudden Debt's picture

I think he meanth that after marriage it stops sucking...

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 18:26 | 3708531 Kayman
Kayman's picture

My wife buys useless shit.

Did you marry my ex ?  I cringed every year when her garage sales dumped out at 5 cents on the dollar, all the useless shit she never needed.

And naturally, at the garage sale, all my tools and ladders would mysteriously be sold.  Gawd, I'm glad that woman is gone.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 18:43 | 3708566 prains
prains's picture

she's looking for a giant fish knocker, sleep with one eye open

Mon, 07/01/2013 - 00:38 | 3709247 Antifaschistische
Antifaschistische's picture

Then, American women get together at Starbucks and criticize the crap out of American men who decide to marry an imported Asian woman who grew up on an average household income equivalent to about $2,000.  They tend to not have this addicted to crap problem.   God bless America.

Mon, 07/01/2013 - 04:11 | 3709354 Yes We Can. But...
Yes We Can. But Lets Not.'s picture

I dated a very nice looking Asian gal who insisted that she was routinely scorned by women - total strangers - here in the US...

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 17:50 | 3708420 Boeing Boy
Boeing Boy's picture

There is no privacy in USA.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 17:52 | 3708428 IridiumRebel
IridiumRebel's picture

Lets change our name to National States of America or NSA. A chicken in every pot and a chip in every arm!

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 17:59 | 3708448 Boeing Boy
Boeing Boy's picture

I like it, can we call you AmeriKans as well..

 

Do you sense that ordinary citizens are finally waking up?  I was trying to watch some of your news channels earlier today but gave up.  Too dire for words...How long before the Guardian is censored?

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 18:26 | 3708527 IridiumRebel
IridiumRebel's picture

Learn to disseminate between a mostly good American populace and a mostly bad American government.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 21:17 | 3708914 Totentänzerlied
Totentänzerlied's picture

Wrong. The former permit the latter to exist, pay its taxes, use its fiat, join its military, vote in its elections, use its courts, accept its loans and grants, use its public services, participate in its pension and retirement plans, trade with its agents and agencies, etc.

You can't have a moral populace with an immoral government, the population would be zero, or the government would be altered or abolished.

Sorry, that's just how it is, not in any way unique to America.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 21:49 | 3708974 Spastica Rex
Spastica Rex's picture

In many respepcts, we get what we want. What we really want. It looks to me like Walmart, iStuff, Big Macs, etc. are what we really want, and we're willing to let the unimportant things slide.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 22:50 | 3709083 Bringin It
Bringin It's picture

Boeing Boy - How long before the Guardian is censored?

You have to be kidding me.  That's a joke right? 

Up until the second gulf war, the guardian was pretty good.  Then TPTB cleaned house. 

Comments are heavily policed and censored.  It's no better than any other MSM.

Sill great for this kind of thing though

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/gallery/2011/aug/02/scotland-birdwatching-s...

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 21:51 | 3708978 They trynna cat...
They trynna catch me ridin dirty's picture

And you'd better believe that every one of those chips will feature a digital "666."

http://www.tubechop.com/watch/1260208

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 18:13 | 3708488 Sudden Debt
Sudden Debt's picture

it's so overrated....

oh yeah... the guys over here like your wife's underwair... tell here to walk in front of your webcam again...

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 19:03 | 3708617 bunnyswanson
bunnyswanson's picture

It's your wife's, daughter's, sister's abortion that they'll be looking for.  Wire hangers bent into loops and hookes, thrown onto the lawn will be a warning that they are on the list.  Baby magazines begin to arrive but you have no baby.  Letter A will be burnt onto your profile beside the red left M.  Termination of pregnancy will turn women into supposed baby murderers will be burned at the stake, I fear.  Religious zealots live for this.

Mon, 07/01/2013 - 00:55 | 3709265 snr-moment
snr-moment's picture

Wow.  That's some serious insanity you got there.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 18:15 | 3708499 Things that go bump
Things that go bump's picture

I've known that for almost 20 years. I laughed at the HIPPA act - the contents of your medical records are safe from you; however, they are accessible to almost anybody else. 

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 18:36 | 3708557 espirit
espirit's picture

...and beware any employer that forbids you from backing your vehicle into the space.  Think that started around 2006 (maybe earlier) for most .gov employees.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 17:50 | 3708423 max2205
max2205's picture

Target now knows how many shits I take each week...bastards

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 17:56 | 3708440 mrdenis
mrdenis's picture

Hmmmmm.I wonder what they think I'm up I buy 36 tubes of KY jelly each month .....It helps keep my fishing gear free of salt water  .

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 18:13 | 3708492 Sudden Debt
Sudden Debt's picture

sure it does....

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 18:21 | 3708512 kaiserhoff
kaiserhoff's picture

Whatever floats your boat;)

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 19:05 | 3708625 MissCellany
MissCellany's picture

But...but then you can't have a boating accident!

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 19:17 | 3708658 kaiserhoff
kaiserhoff's picture

It's not the size of the cod piece,

it's the motion of the ocean..., wait.  What was the question?

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 18:32 | 3708546 CCanuck
CCanuck's picture

It keeps your Junk free of rug burns too.

Just say'n

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 18:39 | 3708560 espirit
espirit's picture

I have doubts that it protects against "barnacles".

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 18:39 | 3708561 RaceToTheBottom
RaceToTheBottom's picture

I think that it keeps silver bars from tarnishing when you loose them over the side of the boat.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 18:45 | 3708567 prains
prains's picture

keep your thumb on it so it doesn't bunch up.....now faster 

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 17:53 | 3708426 spinone
spinone's picture

Does it all really depend on if the Supreme Court rules that we have a "reasonable expectation of privacy"?

No.  The constitution was written in plain language so that the public could understand.  The power of government comes from the consent of the governed

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expectation_of_privacy

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 19:01 | 3708613 OpenThePodBayDoorHAL
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incredible where the article says that "only 30% of people think the fedgov protects their right". As for the 70%, who do they think protects their rights? Anyone? Anyone? Beuhler?

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 19:36 | 3708704 Jendrzejczyk
Jendrzejczyk's picture

Simple, elegant beauty and truth in that first sentence.

I always expect privacy unless I'm outside screaming in front of the neighbors.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 20:32 | 3708797 nmewn
nmewn's picture

Exactly.

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures,

SHALL NOT BE VILOATED,

and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

It doesn't get anymore plain than that.

By "seizing" ie copying (or ordering companies to copy) every communication they are in violation. By not asking the court to approve "siezing" everyones communications, they are in violation. By not giving probable cause that everyone is a terrorist suspect (evidence) they are in violation.

When everyone is a suspect except the king & his entourage, you have tyranny.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 17:53 | 3708431 BattlegroundEur...
BattlegroundEurope2011's picture

Tip:

If your neighbour works for the NSA Do Not upset him/her.

 

 

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 17:55 | 3708438 DaddyO
DaddyO's picture

Tip:

If your neighbor works for the NSA, tell them you're keeping track TOO!

DaddyO

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 20:57 | 3708855 Ranger4564
Ranger4564's picture

Exactly. 100000% agreed.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 21:09 | 3708888 DoChenRollingBearing
DoChenRollingBearing's picture

Yep, where their children go to school, whether they are armed or not, etc...

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 19:29 | 3708684 HelluvaEngineer
HelluvaEngineer's picture

GFY

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 17:53 | 3708433 Yen Cross
Yen Cross's picture

     It should be interesting to see how online transactions, social media, cell phone use/sales, profits react to all the snooping, moving forward. I have several friends that have greatly reduced their online exposure from this whole spying debacle.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 18:17 | 3708504 espirit
espirit's picture

I think HH has also...

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 21:44 | 3708970 Zer0head
Zer0head's picture

Yenny, your point is profound, yet disturbing.

The conondurm:

 

Go dark to become semi opaque

or

Go dark to please the masters

 

the former in isolation is the same as number two

 

 

 

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 23:58 | 3709194 Bringin It
Bringin It's picture

Taking a page from the CIA, buy a laptop, install linux and tor, disable the camera and mic.  Only turn it on to blog zh and the like. nothing else. 

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 19:08 | 3708633 FlyingDutchman
FlyingDutchman's picture

Same here.

This is bad news for the Googles and like.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 21:21 | 3708923 Totentänzerlied
Totentänzerlied's picture

There will be no reaction. Zero. Zip. You can quote me on it and I by all means I welcome being proved wrong.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 17:54 | 3708434 Payne
Payne's picture

They can collect lots of data and they don't have the collective thought process to figure out what use it is.  More pork !

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 19:11 | 3708640 cynicalskeptic
cynicalskeptic's picture

Don't presume they can't.  Thoes license plate readers on cop cars collect data on ALL cars that go by.  That data is retained FOREVER and can be mined at will.   Same with things lie EZPass (sensors along highways can allow issuance of speeding tickets by reading your pass as well - they're already uop and installed awaiting only legislative sanction).

With access to all this info authorities can search for specific data and find out whwere you've been and when, establish patterns and far more.  

This is NOT just for catching expired plates or people with outstanding warrants.

 

Mon, 07/01/2013 - 00:34 | 3709242 andrewp111
andrewp111's picture

License plate readers can be used for speeding tickets also. Speed = distance /time.  They can mine the data and then go to a Grand Jury to issue indictments for speeding that is above the state's criminal threshold.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 19:33 | 3708693 HelluvaEngineer
HelluvaEngineer's picture

I may or may not have worked for a company years ago that could score you based on a sequence of keywords.  There is only one source of funding for said company.  You are being scored as a terrorist, where a 0 score is the Star witness in the Trayvon trial.

Mon, 07/01/2013 - 00:01 | 3709199 Bringin It
Bringin It's picture

I would not make that bet if I were you.  A friend of mine watched them take the encypted Soviet networks apart.

These days, I bet the Russians have a good handle on what's going on, the sheeple on the other hand are defenseless.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 17:55 | 3708437 monopoly
monopoly's picture

Tyler, you have to check this article out. Another way the scum Banksters are stealing money from those that can least afford it. I had to read this twice. Unfreaking believable. 

NY. Times As Pay Cards Replace Paychecks, Bank Fees Hurt Workers

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 18:03 | 3708456 mademesmile
mademesmile's picture

It seems to be spreading.

Former worker sues McDonald's franchisee

The Shavertown McDonald's forces workers to be paid only one way: with a payroll debit card that burdens workers with hefty fees to obtain their hard-earned cash, according to a lawsuit filed Thursday on behalf of Gunshannon and other McDonald's workers.

 

http://citizensvoice.com/news/former-worker-sues-mcdonald-s-franchisee-1...

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 19:21 | 3708666 Dewey Cheatum Howe
Dewey Cheatum Howe's picture

The J.P. Morgan Chase payroll card carries fees for nearly every type of transaction, according to the lawsuit, including a $1.50 charge for ATM withdrawals, $5 for over-the-counter cash withdrawals, $1 to check the balance, 75 cents per online bill payment and $10 per month if the card is left inactive for more than three months.

The old skim scheme this is the same JPM that skims off the top of EBT cards through fees since they are the ones who actually issue the EBT cards. They are the biggest welfare queen of them all between all this skimming on fees and free money from the FED via QE.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 21:14 | 3708901 DoChenRollingBearing
DoChenRollingBearing's picture

The sleazy law firm above (smile,,,) writes:

"...$5 for over-the-counter cash withdrawals,..."

Well, then take out $10,000 or so at a time.  FOR SURE you are being tracked at $3000, probably at much less.  $10,000 buys a decent amount of gold too, although the LCS will report that as well.

If you have money to lose, start thinking about getting some assetes OUT of the USA to wherevenr you feel is safe.

Mon, 07/01/2013 - 00:58 | 3709264 1C3-N1N3
1C3-N1N3's picture

.

FOR SURE you are being tracked at $3000

I recently did a nickel in RBS Americas' "Risk Department" ("lol") and can assure you that amounts well lower than $3000 -- especially round numbers, numbers-close-to-round-numbers, and even serial ATM withdrawal attempts -- can go straight to Big Brother as early as the time of deposit (plus the time required for the "analyst" to get the action/paperwork going), before a withdrawal attempt is even made. Even ATM deposits and withdrawals are both monitored in real time.

Part of my awakening involved walking out on that job in mid-shift. I was 25, and their best guy. In the meantime I've worked, for far less pay, on a tree farm and in a tire factory. No regrets.

Mon, 07/01/2013 - 04:39 | 3709366 Yes We Can. But...
Yes We Can. But Lets Not.'s picture

When you are in a bank, know that you, your actions, your transactions, are under most intense scrutiny,photographic and otherwise, and the teller is - I kid you not - a Gubmint trained spy, all under the anti-money laundering guise....

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 17:56 | 3708441 CashCowEquity
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The 4th Amendment's protection does not include 3rd parties (banks, telephone companies, credit card companies) BY engaging in commerce with third parties, one cannot expect a reasonable level of privacy. If you want privacy, then stop conducting business with 3rd parties involving cash only or precious metals.

 

Thats the law. See Smith vs Maryland for the application.

Sun, 06/30/2013 - 18:23 | 3708524 involuntarilybirthed
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Forcing "direct deposit"  is a boon for the banks. 

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