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Egypt's Morsi Still President As Ministers Resign, Muslim Brotherhood Offices Destroyed
With over a million people crowded into the streets of Cairo (and 16 reported dead and 781 injured according to The Jerusalem Post), the situation in Egypt is becoming more unstable. Amid cheers of "the people demand the fall of the regime," protesters set fire to and ransacked the Muslim Brotherhood's main offices all over Egypt. Many saw this as another victory towards their goal of Egypt not being ruled under Islamic law noting, that they "feel victorious, but we'll only have truly won once Morsi leaves." It seems the pressure is building as five Egyptian ministers have just resigned amid the growing chaos.
The Muslim Brotherhood offices:
Via The Guardian,
The headquarters of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood have been burned and ransacked following an all-night siege – one day after millions protested on Egypt's streets calling for President Mohamed Morsi's resignation.
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With police nowhere to be seen, Brotherhood cadres returned fire, killing at least four, and injuring at least 80 – according to medics at the scene.
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"It's a great feeling. I've wanted to do this for three years," said Ahmed Yassin, a student from Alexandria, holding the office nametag of Mohamed el-Badie, the Brotherhood's leader. "Their offices are being trashed all over Egypt – but this was the most important, because they are running the country from this office."
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Inside, there was chaos, with black smoke still billowing through the upper rooms, and looters fighting over the spoils. Outside, a crowd of 200 chanted "the people demand the fall of the regime", indicative of the view that the Brotherhood has seized control of most of the state.
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The scene at the headquarters was a microcosm of the extreme polarisation affecting Egyptian society, which is divided between those who may be religious, but do not seek an Islamic state – and Islamists like the Brotherhood, which seeks to use the concepts of Islamic law to govern Egypt. Even state institutions appear to have been drawn into the division. The police, who defended the same building during a similar attack in March, did not intervene on Sunday.
"I feel victorious," said Ahmed Badawy, a Cairo resident hi in the hand by birdshot, fired by Brotherhood members during the night. "But we'll only have truly won once Morsi leaves."
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ah, I remember well when Obama held a speech there after his nobel peace prize, yes we can
Sounds Like Theres More DEMOCRACY In Egypt Than In USA...
(Get That Snowden Bowye)
The American "empire" seems to be unraveling at the seams.
B-b-but I see plenty of broken windows! Things have to get better! They're in a Recovery! /Krugman
Hope 'Springs' eternal. Not. We've seen the Egyptian Spring, now the Summer...oops, Fall is next...
The Egyptians should print Revolution for Dummies. Unfortunately, it would only sell about a thousand copies in the U.S.
Holy Moses, not this again...and it's only been a year (Sphinx to Pyramid)
Yup. Sphinx and Pyramid have seen a lot since they watched Moses walk by...
Moses' probably looking down now. Shit, no Twiiter, cell towers...hey wait a minute says the Big One, you dissing our old network?
If only Americans had the same bravery. Land of the free and home of the g*y as Lady Gaga (total idiot) said yesterday.
The Tylers missed last night the Brazilians were also rioting again. Not sure about the Turks. Well football season with the National Felons will be back soon.
You've got to have an understanding of an issue before you can stand up for it. Long time coming, that hope. IF they dumb you down far enough, eventually you'll have no issues.
It's dreadful seeing all those right-wing, racist Islamophobes burning the Muslim Brotherhood's offices.
ObaMao installed govt already ousted by the peasants...and so easily? This should make The One really furious.
This should be happening in America. Oh well, one day we will wake up.
I have tremendous respect for the Egyptian people..........
hmm... who could possibly want all the Muslim countries in the ME torn apart by civil strife? that's a toughie...
They will have to lose what is important to them for that happen. Apparently freedom and privacy ain't it for most people.
Apparently the american people like getting kornholed day after day....meh....as long as the meager gubmint checks keep rolling in I guess that's all it takes for 'The Land of the Fee, home of the Slave'....and this week they'll all take to the grill and cooler and eat mountains of GMO burgers and get proper drunk...911 for the domestic violence later....see thats all americans do is beat their own kids.
Or 'The Land of the Home Free of the Brave'
My guess is his handlers wont tell him.
So what is Obama thinking now that the regime he put in office is being ousted?
DaddyO
He is thinking how he can route more arms for the coming civil war there
And picking out the next pig to replace Morsi once he is dragged out into the streets and held accountable in the middle of the road.
That pig has already been chosen. His name is Mohamed el-Baradei.
He's asking Michelle to call the Rothschilds so he doesn't get yelled at and called the n-word again. He keeps trying to tell them he doesn't even like black people but they never listen.
These revolutions aren't going to well for the CIA.
... for the last 60 years.
Oh how wrong you are.
2nd picture, character at window to the right, do you think he's taking a pea? I do.
It's OK.
He's with the Egyptian Fire Department.
His name is Hosni "The Hose" Burka Durka and He is an indespensable member of the EFD.
I dunno .... but, I'd recognize that red Walmart plastic gas can anywhere !
I got to hand it to the Egyptions. These guys take their protest serious as well as hold the government accountable.
I can't believe the people of Egypt don't appreciate the super rapie democratic Springy government that we installed for them.
7.6 billion pieces of intelligence collected a month from Egypt by the NSA and Obama could not protect his puppet Morsi?
Making shit up, or merely projecting?
in March 2013 the agency collected 97bn pieces of intelligence from computer networks worldwide.
Jordan, one of America's closest Arab allies, came third with 12.7bn, Egypt fourth with 7.6bn and India fifth with 6.3bn.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/08/nsa-boundless-informant-global-datamining
Heh, heh, heh...as if I didn't see that coming...
I was not referring to the NSA, only to the completely asinine statement that Morsi is Obama's puppet...
You're kidding us, right?
DaddyO
Not at all....
You are living in some kind of bubble that is impervious to facts if you think Morsi is in place because of Obama. Or do you think that US should have been more "active" backing the opposition to the Muslim Brotherhood at the time of the elections?
Be very careful about what you say, we wouldn't want you to make it clear that you are nothing but a hypocrite.....
That's the reason I reject all the conspiracy stories of CIA arranging this or preventing that. Those clowns can't even do their basic job - data analysis. They failed miserably on the fall of the USSR, Germany's reunification, Arab Spring, etc and now, with massive data, could not predict how Egyptians fed up with decades of autocrats would react when someone set out to become yet another autocrat.
Re: the USSR, the CIA did a splendid job of maintaing the MIC complex and their own budgets...
Funnily enough, Carter's top advisor got it right
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predictions_of_Soviet_collapse#Zbigniew_Brzezinski
Edit: This is a money quote
Brzezinski has been making public statements critical of the rest of the global Power Structure for some time now. Discord among TPTB?
ZB was always an independent thinker, just as bright, but overshawdowed by Kissinger...
Sovietology succeeded in its actual aim: propaganda and manipulation.
First they riot because change is not happening fast enough (or for the better), then they riot when someone decides to start changing this at a rapid clip (for the M.E., that is!). Choose: Chaos...or Anarchy, you can't have both.
they just want to break free
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/75380/Egypt/Politics-/-sexu...
Egypt is becoming a failed state...
It can no longer feed itself without gifts of fossil fuels or loans from the Arab world. It has ceased being a net exporter of oil (~2010), it is still the largest importer of wheat in the world...
Watch carefully, it will be spreading...
Whoa .... your statement implies .... their Arab brothers give them more "loans" than we do .... and that they actually pay for their wheat .... maybe you got the oil deficit right ?
Here are some facts
http://mazamascience.com/OilExport/output_en/Exports_BP_2013_oil_bbl_EG_MZM_NONE_auto_M.pdf
and let me google that for you
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=qatar+egypt+aid
I don't dispute the oil mess .... Qatar .... barely in April and May pledges it "will" consider selling bonds to give $3 Billion to Egypt .... while it holds talks with the IMF about the arrangements ? Yeah, your check is in the mail ! Chickenfeed !
Qatar/IMF = American Taxpayer Proxy .... McCain wants to fund Chechen beheaders in Syria ?
What's so illogical is the Brotherhood's instant rush toward economic suicide. Everyone knew Morsi wanted an Islamic state but the idea of solw and easy was shelved for direct action supported by fundamentalists and rural poor but opposed by the middle class fed up with autocrats. The worst thing (by far) was driving away the last source of revenue - tourism, the lifeline of the Egyptian State.
Failed state ideed. They have a soaring population yet can't produce enough food, fuel, export products, jobs or security. 90% of Egyptians couldn't care less about Israel or Syria or Turkey. They simply want a secure, healthy environment for their families (like most sane folks).
Agreed....
Tourism was their last source of hard currency and now that is evaporating... And you can only squeeze the canal for so much
http://www.marsecreview.com/2013/02/suez-canal-authority-to-increase-transit-fees/
The educated middle class youth are despairing and taking to the streets. But it far too late for any regime change to fix things...
Tourism is "evaporating" .... yeah, like a drop of spit on a hot pancake griddle ? LOL
as you said, they're not alone, even the Saudi middle class has fallen significantly. it's another reason the world will be forced to reject the dollar, our exported inflation and lowball tricks only kill their purchase power further. And when its food, no one's joking
Educated fools, if they actually believe any of this half-assed protesting can change a damn thing. A futile struggle against reality. Like I said the first time around, wake up when Cairo's burning, the Egyptian government is a dump truck full of corpses, and the army has authorized live ammunition, triggers free. Until then, nothing changes, in Egypt as anywhere.
Guys, I've been scanning morning posts here at ZH and I'm not seeing anything that looks remotely likely to make a dent in the markets today.
It looks we got to a point where we need at least a 100 million strong country to descend in chaos in order to stop S&P from going up. Egypt, Syria, Turkey - no problem!
WTF...
The Daddy Bernanke PUT has a mystical power that is evil incarnate wrapped in the Wizard of OZ facade and fools use it to make money until they don't. The straw that breaks this money machine is just unknown, but ignorance about the Wizard of OZ or the faith in the Wizard of Oz is absolutely amazing with the known economic risks in the world.
If you do not believe the Shiite (Shia) faithful fighting in Syria are targetting a large oil installation in Saudia Arabia, you are a fool. One morning, we could wake-up to $200 per barrel of oil and a 500 point drop in S&P.
Has Daddy Bernanke made us safer?
Guess Morsi is not too concerned at this point with killing Assad.
You don't get it. It's a religious war - Sunni (Egypt, Saudi Arabia, most the Arab world) vs Shiite (Iran, Iraq, Syria, etc). Those groups hate each other to a degree that someone not familiar with the history cannot understand. Far more Muslims have been killed by these theological fights than all the wars with the West put together.
The WSJ had a great article this weekend on the new "middle class" revolutions. The problem is that while most of these are secular, educated and have democratic leanings they find it impossible to translate into a political party. Inevitably, a nation run by a 10% minority (Syria, for example) will have to face the other 90%
What is occuring is the Arab Muslim's version of the 30 Years War...
And we all know how well that went for everyone....
Interesting...whose playing the part of Cardinal Richelieu?
You can only carry an analogy so far....
Yes there are 3 major dividers depending on the combatants concerning Islamic people (the nonsecular ones) in general, Shiite vs Sunni, then Arab vs non Arab (i.e. Iranians are not Arabs but Persians) then you have tribal ethnic thing like Tuaregs aka the other Berber that is not Justin for example in Mali.
The 10% simply leverage their monopoly on force, law, and taxation, set up courts, police, military, secret police, and intel services. Then they "face" the 90% with the business end of their loaded guns.
Any questions?
Flood the economy with soccer balls. Yea, that’s the ticket.
If there are not plastic, they will be boiling them soon enough, just like the Wehrmacht at Stalingrad with their belts...
They can just eat each other's live, beating hearts .... and conserve cooking fuel !
Sorry you lost 19 fire-fighters today.
Thanks, they were brave men.
Note to NSA: Coming soon to a neighborhood very near you!
Americans are too stupid to know they are living under tyranny. It seems Snowden has given up his freedom fro nothing. I have to respect the moderate Muslims in Turkey and Egypt. The moment they become aware that their governments try to rule them under the tyranny of Islamic laws, they didn't hesitate risking their lives to defend their freedom and liberty.
Someone here said it earlier...the Egyptians don't have gubbmint checks rolling in. It's hard to see tyranny when it's paying your bills.
Manufactured consent through incremental socialist takeover of the Country.
Actually they just want the good times back, and don't particularly care, nor understand, what that involves. It's a free-shit army.
Before their Arab brothers .... kick them down a little oil .... we'll emergency airlift gasoline to them @ $435 per gallon ?
All the while the U.S. continues to fulfill the arms giveaway to Egypt, including F-16s, tanks, etc...
Feb 01, 2013
"By a vote of 79-19, an amendment to the debt limit bill offered by Senator Rand Paul (R-Ky.) was rejected by the Senate. The Paul amendment would have prohibited the U.S. government from selling F-16 jet fighters, M1A1 tanks, and similar military weapons to the Egyptian government."
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/14390-senate-rejects-paul-amendment-to-prevent-arms-sales-to-egypt
I believe the F16 and Abram tanks are hush money given to Morsi. The attempted kidnapping of Christ Steven was not supposed to be interrupted by armed Americans whom disobeyed repeated orders to stand down. The death of numerous youtube video protesters caused Obama great embarrassment.
The weapons given to Morsi are tokens of apology for the big screw up.
Naaa, military industrial complex wants to sell more weapons to the USA to keep the gravy train going, but the USA doesn't need them. Solution, USA buys them then gives them to "allies" (Obama's Muslims Brotherhood) at zero percent loans that are never repaid back and eventually forgiven.
-- Apparently Arab summer is not nearly as peaceful as Arab spring. Another notch in the belt of mr Nobel Peace Prize
-- Most transparent admin in history: secret drone lists, spying on anything with a pulse, nat'l security leaks, fast and furious, IRS, Benghazi.....not sure we can take any more transparency. Oh wait, there is more: IRS completely takes over healthcare in Jan 2014. Dictator in Chief is just getting started
he meant the ink
the ink would be transparent
Is our State Department totally systemically broken? Seems we have had no success there in years, everything they touch falls apart (think 2016). I think it has become one big expensive world touring organization with networking parties at all the embassy's. Statesmanship is a lost art replaced with bribes and free money to gain false cooperation and alliance.
Was hoping Kerry might fix this but he has fallen into the traps/caught-up in the system and the old timers will keep him busy so he don't have time to make changes. They love it so.
Soon he will hopefully understand that fixing Israeli/Palestine is like trying to fix Sunni/Shia. Another in the long line of SofS trying to find the golden chalice thereby gaining eternal fame.
Meanwhile in Syria...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0HuGxYkRVQ
Sectarian violence.... Syria is a battle to the death between Alawite minority and the Sunni majority. If they loose the Alawites will be ethnically cleansed.. My take is that the Sunnis will eventually prevail and then the Sunnis will fight amongst themselves to determine whether a secular state emerges out of the chaos...
There is nothing to gain by sticking your nose into a hornet's nest.....
My take is that every terrorist Muslim country .... should experience 20 years of "Syrian" .... not so civil war .... and rethink their terrorist message .... meanwhile .... in Israel .... the streets are being swept .... mothers are nursing their babies .... and the milk and honey are flowing !
Syria is a battle between the secular Alawites Syrians, Shiite from Iraq, Lebanon/Hezbollah, Iran, Russian advisors and Syrian Christians against Sunnis/Al Qaeda from Libya, Egypt, maybe Saudis and American advisors - yes, we are currently training the ones whom blew up the twin towers in Jordan.
It's too late to not stick our nose into the hornet's nest. The worst is that the Russians have the moral authority in regard to this mess.
Spoken like a true neo-con....
I'm totally against our meddling in Syria as we are backing the wrong horse/Al Qaeda. We are backing terrorists who will definitely ethnic cleanse Syria of non-Sunnis and Christians.
Apologies, in my haste I misread what you wrote....
You are correct, there are no clearly good guys to back...
Wrong.
Loved that .... and some guy crawls out and runs away .... almost like he had pain from his burns ! LOL
Look closely, the guy gets blowed out of the turret when the cook off starts, unbelievable!!
Holy shit! That tank cooked off quick!
stop this riot.
tony blair says stop smashing up cairo.
get your cia weaopons and head off to syria full pay and plenty of bullets.
trash the assad.
muslims kill now go destroy other muslims lands and understand you are doing glorious work for israel.
kissinger has spoken balkanise everything,localise the killing keep the oil pipelines pumping.
all that oil and gas for free.
this oil stuff is from brown foreign lands but we own it cos we are bigger and cleveror see.
The fake revolution in Egypt had become a real one. Yet another massive clusterfuck brought to you by Hillary and Barry.
Do you do any real analytic thinking on your own? Or do you just parrot the bull shit that you hear from your Right Wing pinhead provider of mental pablum?
The Federal Reserve Building represents the Muslim Brotherhood building of America. A nation cannot be free unless the dictatorship headquarters are burned to the ground.
comparing bankers to tyrannical muslims. That's a low blow to our middle eastern friends
Indonesia has 800 million muslims and the military have an automatic 1/3 of seats in Parliament. (Didn't Chumby go to school there?) Tyler should have made the title "Military threatens to takeover of remaining authority". How much control does the Pentagon exercise in the USA? Once upon a time it was a sine qua non of American politics for a (pres.) candidate to have been a military officer and commanded men. Ike,JFK,Nixon,Carter,both Bushes (both Skull and Bones at Yale?).People like a war hero.These uprisings are nothing compared to when the American people try to access their pension funds in a few years.Can you say Corzined,boys and girls?
Hehe, so long Israel!
I hope no women journalists are working this story, or if they are, they are with 10 really big, dangerous, men
with cattle prods, pepper spray and steel whips.