Richard Nixon: "Anything The NSA Did Is Totally Defensible"

Tyler Durden's picture

Much electronic ink has been spilled in the global media over the past month (all of it intercepted apriori by the NSA of course), in the aftermath of the Snowden whistleblowing revelations, comparing Obama to Dubya. However, as it turns out, that may not be the proper comparison. A far better one may have been between the current president and one Richard M. Nixon.

From the NYT:

Nixon and his most senior aides spent hours discussing plans to use Federal law enforcement agencies and intelligence services to conduct domestic spying operations against Americans.

In 1970, Nixon personally approved the most radical of these plans. It was called ''the Huston plan,'' after its author, Tom Charles Huston, a White House aide. J. Edgar Hoover, Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, blocked its full implementation five days later. Mr. Dean, who in 1973 decided to cooperate with Federal investigators in the Watergate case, took a copy of the Huston plan with him when he left the White House.

In the new transcripts, Nixon and his aides worry aloud about the plan becoming public. One fragmentary transcript shows the White House wondering if elements of the plan survived after Hoover died in May 1972 and was succeeded by an Acting F.B.I. Director loyal to the Nixon White House, L. Patrick Gray.

In the Oval Office on May 16, 1973, Mr. Buzhardt told Nixon about his discussions with the deputy director of the National Security Agency, Louis W. Tordella, about the Huston plan. The N.S.A. conducts international electronic eavesdropping, but like the C.I.A., it is not supposed to spy on Americans at home.

''Anything the N.S.A. did is totally defensible,'' Nixon said, referring to the Huston plan.

Mr. Buzhardt replied: ''They move into a broader category with respect to domestic affairs'' -- an illegal realm.

''What do you mean?'' Nixon asked. ''Electronic surveillance?''

Mr. Buzhardt replied, ''Yes, sir, targeting U.S. citizens' conversations.''

Nixon appeared unsure that the Huston plan had been turned off. ''D.I.A. says that -- thinks it was terminated?'' he asked, referring to the Defense Intelligence Agency, a Pentagon service that was part of the Huston plan.

''They think it was terminated,'' Mr. Buzhardt said. ''Now, we're going to check this thoroughly with N.S.A.'' because ''they were the most aggressive group.'' Referring to Mr. Tordella's notes on the Huston plan, Mr. Buzhardt added: ''They never quite got a handle on it until Pat Gray was appointed'' in 1972.

In that same conversation, Nixon anticipated a story saying ''the President authorized a super-duper activity in 1970'' involving ''burglary, etc., and wiretapping.'' Defiantly, he said Americans would understand the plan was to control riots by people protesting the Vietnam War.

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So, which is it, Barack H. Nixon or Richard M. Obama?

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LetThemEatRand's picture

Common thread? Kissinger. O worked for Kissinger. Coinkidink?

dick cheneys ghost's picture

Henry worked with the Rockefellers........

Stackers's picture

Dick M Obama has a nice ring to it.

DoChenRollingBearing's picture

It's all Richard Nixon's fault!

mofreedom's picture

barack milhous husein husein husein osama bin obama bin laden obama bush, hah!

mofreedom's picture

tricky dick = nixon

bent dick = clinton

no dick = bush

sucks dick = obama

has dick = hillary

TheFourthStooge-ing's picture

"Well, when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal."
-- Richard M. Nixon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejvyDn1TPr8

Colonel Klink's picture

When a president does it (or any other government employee), it should be indictable as a violation of their oath, a high crime and misdemeanor, and a violation the constitutional rights of a US citizen.  One count for EACH AND EVERY person spied on/recorded/or surveilled without the  proper court warrants.  All penalties should be cumulative.

No blanket warrants by some secret FISA court.  Our court system is supposed to be open to the "light of day" for civilian scrutiny.  If not, then exactly what is happening today always happens.  Justice being determined by a few corrupt individuals (usually elected or appointed) in dark smoke filled rooms.  In other words....TYRANNY!

f16hoser's picture

"OUTFUCKINGSTANDING" MOFREE / Five Stars

PT's picture

Stackers thas wude!!!

ECE's picture

seems to lean a soggy and hurried justification for the most divisive president  (OBAMA) to the defense less Nixon (NON SOCIALIST) who obviosly overstepped very badly.

both at fault.    damage and reach today compared to what was achievable in 1972   NOT-COMPARABLE.     Check dates to put in contex.   Almost good article...

but loose..

 

dark pools of soros's picture

Kissinger is a lizard.. he worked with Judas

Cognitive Dissonance's picture

"Wow. I just threw up a little in my mouth. Shall I swallow like I always do?" - Average Joe waking up from a bad dream to find out reality is more frightening than his worst nightmares.

Xibalba's picture

It's like a Cheney/Rumsfeld wet dream

LetThemEatRand's picture

A waking dream, unfortunately.

g speed's picture

"would you buy a used car from this man??"

g'kar's picture

Somehow, I knew you couldn't resist. LOL

asteroids's picture

Kissinger: "The illegal we do immediately; the unconstitutional takes a little longer." Wikileaks revealed material. Now do you understand why Snowden is a hero? You folks really need to understand the concept of Liberty.

LetThemEatRand's picture

And the surveillance state he rode in on.

Dr. Richard Head's picture

I tweeted this article with the following tweet - Obama and Nixon. If this doesn't wake you from the left/right march of the zombie sheeple then FUCK YOU!!!

LetThemEatRand's picture

You're a doctor AND a poet, damn it!  Jim!

Renewable Life's picture

Gets rid of the gold standard, fucks every middle class family and child for two generations, and then gleefully proclaims "we are all keynesian now"

Well speak for yourslef you ugly, fucking paranoid, meglomanic, rotting corpse! 

Everybodys All American's picture

When in doubt blame Bush or Nixon always. Just wondering how they can tie Obamacare to these two?

ACP's picture

Don't know how they can tie Obamacare, but both Nixon and Obama are big DICKS. Tricky DICK and Chicago Gangsta DICK.

williambanzai7's picture

You miss the point, which is not to exonerate one by blaming the other.

The point is they are all from the same fucking shitbag.

g'kar's picture

After so much red/blue conditioning, it is a tough concept to grasp for many (not here so much). Honestly I'm still fighting it myself sometimes because I despise the blue team so much.

Seize Mars's picture

The Vietnam war was fought for one purpose only: to spend so much money so that they HAD to abandon Bretton Woods.

Seize Mars's picture

The US Dollar was defined in terms of gold. 1 oz gold = $35. So in order to print more money, they needed more gold. The problem was, how to do away with this (flexible) rule, so they could print as much as possible? Well deficit spending of course. Hence a huge, multidecade, "no-win" war. Korea didn't suffice as it was over in two years. They needed a much larger one.

Anyways they were deficit spending to finance Vietnam, although according to the rules, paper money was redeemable in gold. So France (DeGaulle in particular) said, ok, assholes, we call your bluff, redeem our USD's for gold. The DeGaulle redemption was the straw the broke the camel's back. Nixon cancelled the redemption because we didn't have that much gold. The gold-backed dollar had been debased (illegally) and everyone knew it.

So the Bretton Woods agreement was broken.

That was the desired result.

Caviar Emptor's picture

Matter of perspective, SeizeMars. The Vietnam war was the slippery slope of hubris and greed that ended up creating a giant wealth transfer mechnism which financed with deficit spending from taxpayer pocket to big oil and Big MIC. Ike was right when he warned about the threat. 

Seize Mars's picture

Oh yes, no argument, it was definitely a military contractors dream come true. But it was a banking fiasco first and foremost. That was the driver.

All Risk No Reward's picture

To get Vitenam in the proper context, one needs to study the following:

1. Operation Northwoods

2. LL Lemnitzer's role presenting Operation Northwoods (false flag to create war plan) to Kennedy and then getting demoted.

3. Lemnitzer's promotion to head NATO and his work on Operation Gladio (false flag to destabilize opposition live operation).

4. The Gulf of Tonkin false flag to create war operation.  The torpedo incident in the Gulf of Tonkin never happened.

Also note that the MIC is owned/controlled by Big Finance Capital, the same international banking cartel (IBC) controllers that rent seek the world's money...  and I would bet that Vietnam wasn't part of the international banking cartel's debt based money system prior to the Vietnam War.  Muslims don't allow usury until the IBC uses US resources to bomb them into submission, then a central bank is set up.  In the case of Libya, the central bank was set up before the banksters used NATO to finance al Qaeda types to fully overthrow Libya.

It is true that the money supply of the nations used to have value behind it - an immense amount of gold and silver.  Now that wealth has been looted primarily by the IBC types.

Sun Tzu said that endless wars would bankrupt the host country...  do ya think the IBC wants to bankrupt America and put its financial boot on our neck?  Yeah.

The Vitenam War, the Gulf War, the Iraq War, the Afghan War (for drug market and other resource control) are all ways to maximize the profits of the IBC's military complex corporate front, to saturate society with unpayable debts (their profit is society's unpayable debt, BY DEFINITION) and to keep society from ever enjoying a time of peace that they would come to expect. 

Fear is a tremendous motivator and control mechansim.

reader2010's picture

Not exactly as you stated. The VietNam War was set up as the ultimate wealth transfer vehicle at the time.

LetThemEatRand's picture

So it was only a matter of time before it turned into the ultimate armored wealth transfer vehicle.  For our safety.  And for the children.

GeezerGeek's picture

The seeds of US involvement in what was once French Indochina date back to Eisenhower, from what I have read. While the French were being mauled by the locals there, Eisenhower wanted West Germany to be allowed to reindustrialize. France, which had a vote on the issue (remember, Germany had been divided into four zones of interest among the USSR, the US, France and Great Britain following WW II), wanted US assistance in southeast Asia in return for an affirmative vote.

I suppose one could say that if the French could have prevailed over the locals in SEA the US would not have had any reason to get stuck, the following decade, in the quagmire.

I really doubt that Eisenhower was thinking about Bretton Woods when he made the deal.

f16hoser's picture

Hey Dick, how's about one finger:

 

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EclecticParrot's picture

Looks more like the missing 18-minute tape spindle.

Yen Cross's picture

   I appreciate a person with ' God Given Talents'.

 

 

nmewn's picture

Which is it?

Its Barack Millhouse Orwell.

PKF's picture

You gotta put a 'W' in there somewhere.  His admin had dudes sitting in cars outside my place in 2005....before Ashcroft went into the hospital.  They were quite funny...had these strange little 'touch the nose' signals when I'd wave to them. 

W loved to play spy.  Remember how the Constitution was referred to as 'quaint?'   

How about Dubya Dick Odummer?