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Watch The Flightpath Of Bolivia Air Force One As It Gets Trapped Over Austria
As already reported, the Dassault Falcon 900EX that is the Bolivian Air Force 1 was prohibited from flying over Italy, Portugal, Spain and France, due to suspicions it was harboring the "democratic world's enemy #1" Edward Snowden, trapping FAB1 above Austria, and forcing to land in Vienna. Watch the animation of the flight path below how effective the "democratic world" is in making a mockery of due process, diplomatic immunity and all those other highly valued qualities that make living in the "democratic world" such a joy. As for Europe: what can we say - the continent that over the weekend was furious at the NSA for spying on it, expressed its anger by blocking Snowden's airpace.
Source: Flightradar
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I will not scramble fighter jets to catch a hacker.* Read my lips.
*By "I", I do not mean that "I" will not cause another country to do so while said country licks my balls. Which most certainly does not constitute "sex," incidentally.
So is he on the plane or not, or have they not boarded the plane of a President of another Country yet, by force!!!!
Bolivia's president forced to land in Austria after false Snowdon rumors https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=562059360500158&set=a.116008071771958.7699.111607872211978&type=1 … pic.twitter.com/CfsmTg1Tp4
See the tweet here:
https://twitter.com/flightradar24
The diplomatic immunity thingy is the big issue here.
WTF? I guess Obama and his Socialist brethren stand together, side-by-side, for tyranny.
What a noble cause.
This has nothing to do with socialism. Socialism as the term is commonly used is a form of control in that it promises something to the average guy (I will debate another day the benefits of reigning in oligarchs and making sure that not too much wealth concentrates etc). These guys have that paradigm beat by a fucking mile.
Yes, that's exactly right. Socialism has always meant a dictatorship and/or oligarchy. I use it thusly.
Either way, Neo-Feudalism is the model they have in mind. I am misty-eyed for the days when we could debate the benefits of some socialism in a rationally regulated free market.
"rationally regulated free market."
Oh you and your self-contradictory absurdist humor!
Keep up the good fight.
a 21st century Sudetenland
splendid
It could have been a lot worse. But I bet it's a diversion.
Hail the scriptwriter !
The English language in the US is practically ripped from the pages of 1984 - terms all messed up, made nonsensical etc. The term "socialism" being one of many terms Americans are totally clueless on, not likely by accident.
George Carlin says it all about language:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkCR-w3AYOE
Anyway, the more important topic, a Dassualt Falcon is Bolivia's air force one?? Least we know Morales isn't splurging on aircraft.
Right on James! It is sad to hear the language of "1984" thrown around by some ZH posters as if we all believe the narrative of Obama's socialist left wing leadership. Jesus man, they must be joking. Obama a socialist? Look at the record, if this guy is leading from the left, where in fuckig hell is the right wing postion? Somewhere to the right of Hitler on a bad day?
Most people of any insight have moved past the red baiting lies of the FOX empire, certainly we recognize Obama and Bush as being to politicians in service of the same masters.
FOX on it's best day is irrelevant to civilized society, on a bad day it is simply simple minded brainwashing like "Obama is a socialist" As if an event like his signing of the "Mosnsanto Protection Bill", an act of corporate terrorism and bribery worthy of Hitlers Germany in 1938, does not clearly show his real postion. The made up fake" left versus right" paradigm that FOX trys to sell to the Americans of a certain type, well, what can you say. Who with half a brain believes the Obama record is that of a scoialist. Perhaps if you have no idea what socialism is, perhaps then FOX can make you believe it. But it is a stupid big lie. Bush and Obama both govern from the same playbook.
Hitler on one hand, Stalin on the other.... it's hard to choose these days. I do see that Bush is hobnobbing with Obama. It's a merger of the two extremes, leaving out the middle. If you go far enough west, you come to the east: maybe they should be called "Hitlin" or "Staltler"...
Even ZH readers still suffer from a lifetime of brainwashing/disinformation by the gubmint schrools and corporate media cartel when it comes to the false left-right paradigm.
Get it through your ukraniums - the political spectrum is from 100% totalitarian gubmint (left) to 0% (absence of) gubmint or anarchy (right). Practically nobody is on the right, advocating anarchy, any more.
Both Hitler and Stalin were figureheads of totalitarian oligarchies (rule by the elite few) on the extreme left. The BushBillBama regime, puppeteered by a central banking oligarchy, also operates on the far to extreme left, resulting in a seamless continuum of policital & economic destruction over the last 25 years. Fascist, socialist and communist (crony capitalist) economic systems always exist under political oligarchies.
True republican (rule of law) government represents the political center, with only enough government to protect individual rights from the force, fraud & injury of others, including the gubmint itself. The free enterprise (market) economic system can exist only under the rule of law.
Watch the JBS "Overview of America" video on YouTube to fit the missing pieces into your puzzle.
Two words from Orwell:
Oligarchical Collectivism.
100% accurate.
They are really scared of what they fear he has.
I believe he has already offloaded what he has. What The goon Obama & Co. fear is further derision from the brave, rational, thoughtful and well-spoken Snowden, his becoming a figure-head of a drive for Gubmint sane and limited, and his attractiveness to soon to become more and more hosed and disenchanted Gen Y'ers...
"U.S. President Barack Obama has warned that an offer of asylum from a country would carry serious costs."
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSBRE9610C520130703?irpc=932
You gotta wonder what's wrong with the world. Why doesn't the massive spying that has been revealed "carry serious costs"?
Grow a fucki** pair!
"Any nation giving aid to the snowman will suffer an airdrop of an entire Division of my Free Shit Army. Upon landing, their EBT cards and ophones will expire. They will burn down your country."
(signed)
The Dark Prince, Chalky
Wasn't it Soros who said just last week that we needed to move away from "rational choice." I guess Ken-L-Ration dog food will need a new "my dog's better than your dog slogan" that is more in line with the Sunstein bevavioral "nudge."
How 'bout this Fabian verse..."my dog's better cause he behaves better economically, my dog's better than yours."
www,tradewithdave.com
You give credit where it is not due -- there is no model, unless you include loosely connected self-preservation, tuned well enough over a long period of perceived wealth, met expectations, and concomitant ignorance.
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Go on, give him a +1. I did. It's his best post ever.
Good point. Done.
*wonders what the collective ZH IQ is*
+1
While having a chuckle, my mouse finger twitched and down-voted you. Sorry.
You can change your vote, ya know...just click the other arrow. Problem solved.
Has this not become the Diplomacy version of the OJ Simpson Bronco Chase?
This is fucking hilarious!
OJ got off, Swonden won't see the light of day.
That's "reining in" you are trying to say. You know--the reins that control the horse(s).
Rise .... the.... fuck.... up!!!!
Can't talk...'baitin and watchin "Owww...my balls!"
Wonder how much NSA blackmail is going on to make this happen.
#41
Lots and lots gobs and gobs oodles and oodles
Look, figure it this way.
How we understand the information gathering systems to work is that they scoop up information wholesale, nondiscriminatory.
Meaning anything from any country anywhere in one way or another, a signal in the ether or on wires/optic, is fair game to "theft" interception, reading.
And we know from contradictory statements that everything is being read, listened to, no just archived as metadata (horseshit, people)
So, where and what have they collected?
Everything from everywhere
Who has it
"Our guys"
Who they share it with?
Whoever they want to at the moment in exchange for "something in return"
So have they the capacity to fuck, tattoo, screw and disassemble anyone at anytime?
Yes
There's your answer.
1+1=2
pattern recognition.....
I'm curious if those fancy NSA computers are able to recognize this pattern.....
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Knuckles, source of many great posts. That's your best one yet imo.
More like threats of bodily harm to loved ones.
Enough to make even Putin do a U-turn and suddenly start lubing up for the US. If both China and the Russians are worried about getting in the way, someone out there is really determined to get this guy and Lord only knows what 'incentives' they're discussing.
Maybe Russia and China are giving Obomba a rope, knowing he will hang .......
Just say'n...Don't you think they purged the info they wanted from Snowden and cut him loose (check),
Playing friendly with Obomba, knowing that it could create a real shitstorm, that would be hard to place at the communists feet.
Some serious poker going on here, I'm sure Snowden is hold'n a deadman's hand, thinking he has a chance, he's all-in.
Obomba just rasied and pushed all-in with a European Flush..???
Who will Call or Raise??? There are still some players to fold'em or get in the action.
Ccanuck
from BBC:
On Tuesday, National Intelligence Director James Clapper apologised for telling Congress in March that the NSA did not have a policy of gathering data on millions of Americans.
He said in a letter to Dianne Feinstein, head of the Senate intelligence committee, that his answer had been "clearly erroneous".
Dianne Feinstein makes my skin crawl.
"Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all in."
Didn't she sound half-in-the-bag when she said that?
She is her own barf bag.
Intelligence Committee, give me fucking break already.
They're in your face about everything.
As long as he apologized.
That's the main thing.
/s
We are already there. Not a police state, a fucking police world. We have a turnkey tyranny run by secrets? Not anymore since the key has been turned.
Yep, consider the Miranda warning: "You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law."
Now, consider the NSA warning:" You will remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you, whenever, wherever, and however we decree."
We are definitely living under a Police State.
LTER!
I will not scramble fighter jets to catch a bankster.*
There, FIFY!
But he'll scramble one or two to get a bankster out of Dodge.
Or Saudi VIPs out of Dodge next 9/11.....
Well the flightpat for FAB1 could use a good soundtrack...I'm thinkin, Flight of the Bumblebee...don't know why that popped into my keppe but it did..
Personally, I think Wagner's 'Ride Of the Valkyries' is a better choice. Great song and Wagner himself was also exiled from his homeland due to involvement with some revolutionary elements of the day!
Well the flightpath for FAB1 could use a good soundtrack...I'm thinkin, Flight of the Bumblebee...don't know why that popped into my head but it did..
USA the most corrupt nation in the world!
"Freedom" is just another ideal to wage war. In practice, the Black Pope is just another tyrant who likes to grin while he drone kills your families.
Tip to US Gov: Never go full retard...
Too late, did it.
From now on, anything bad that happens is all Snowden's fault. If Putin says mean words that make Obammy cry, it's Snowden's fault. If Bo the Portugese Water Dog gets an ingrown dew claw, it's Snowden's fault.
That's a relief for "W"
Simple Barack
At this point, full retard would be an improvement which would not go unnoticed.
Transitory......
+1
Krispy. You nailed it.
Although I believe the entire governmental world has gone full retard.
Doesn't it feel like things are coming apart at the seams?
What a joy it is to be an American in 2013, as we approach another 4th of July!
All Hail the Emperor Obama!!!!
Empire's pretty cool, it requires a lot less participation (other than showing up for the wars) and thinking than a republic.
Great post Mr. Huxley! I believe you have nailed the truth of it in a few short words. Well done. +1,000. Extra points for clarity of thought.
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Isn't that the same day that Independence Day used to fall on every year?
...also known as King George [Bush] the Third.
Paraphrasing Charles Baudelaire:
“The greatest trick the Nazis ever played was convincing the world that they were German.”
Why would they have the right to divert a head of State?
Because they aren't heads of states.
They are all slaves and dogs. That's what this all means now. All presidents and PM's outside the USA are slaves and dogs. Sock puppets.
They don't. What you're watching is a knee jerk reaction by TPTB to a situation they hadn't forecast. They're 'lost' and inadvertently exposing a facade they no doubt hoped to keep more or less behind the curtains.
In poker terms, this is called a "tell".
Agreed. This has gone off script.
I think they are truly losing it. Are we as close as it feels?
I hope so...maybe Karma is here and the Time has come to expose the puppet masters and their silly minions for what they are.
The thought makes me want to have a cigarette and I quit over 15 years ago.
NWO in action before our eyes. No place to hide.
Absolute fucking cunts. All the pretend bullshit comes out n the light. All their pretend posturing - they are all on the fuckin payroll.
Every. Last. One. Of. Them.
A good start to toppling a fascist regime is to make them act like a fascist regime.
Well played by whom ever sparked the rumor that Snowden was aboard.
very well played indeed
Yes, making the NATO nations expose their hand while staying safely in Moscow was a brilliant move. Just like the earlier move to fill a plane to Cuba with media whores and let them fly off into the sunrise while Snowden grabbed a burger at the airport restaurant and laughed his ass off at the stupid western media whores wondering where the fuck their story went! Too good for words. The media sluts and whores in tight skirts and high heels all packed aboard the Cuba flight. Ha! fucking Ha! The miserable cunts missed the story that could advance their careers as successfully as blowing the boss. Not that any media whore would ever trade sexual favors for job advancement. We know that that isn't how the modern career woman would play it, don't we?
If that plane makes it's (alpha), I'll be surprised .
example; http://rfinder.asalink.net/free/ OR > http://www.flightradar24.com/
YC, do you have the web site for ships and/or harbors? I remember seeing it posted on ZH but did not bookmark it. Thnx.
Unfortunately, I do not have Oceanic coordinates. Tyler does post the "CVN carrier-task group" coordinates occasionally.
Wasn't that the Stratfor website?
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/
Nice work ;)
Thanks to whoever reminded me about the guy who threw his sandals at dubya. man that guy could duck. someday the usa president will have shoes thrown at him/her wherever s/he goes.
If Hillary makes it, please let it be hand grenades.
Geebus F'in Cripes...this Administration is like that sad, alcoholic Uncle that shows up at Thanksgiving and embarrasses the hell out of himself and insults everyone within earshot before peeing in his pants and passing out under the dining room table. You just want to haul him off to a closet and lock him in so you're done with the embarrassing displays in front of guests and relatives. That is until he shows up at Christmas at which time you set a Burmese tiger trap in the front lawn and bait it with a bottle of vodka and good riddance... For fuck's sake we're turning into the laughingstock of the planet with these baboons in charge.
Damn, my kinda gal, a woman with strong kankles.
And a beautiful Gunt as well..developed yet not overflowing.
When she's wearing the latest pants suit, it looks like a Moose Knuckle.
Not laughing stock. Pity. Those who held themselves up to be from the greatest country in the world are now discovering they are living in a dreamland led by liars, thieves and traitors.
The fall from the pedestal of deceptive pride is a hard one to take.
Don't wish for grenades. If they hit her she might look 15 years younger.
+10 Can't stop laughing.
Why the fuck didn't they just keep going? What would it take, like 15 min to fly over italy and into the Med? I certainly can't believe Italy would have shot down a presidential plane, even if it was just Bolivia.
Something is fishy.
Military Jets can force a commercial jet out of the sky without shooting it down, ask the Chinese! (shit they know how to force another military yet our of the sky without shooting it down)
Agreed that Morales should've kept going....
Kito - as you probably know by now, it wasn't just Austria, it was a whole slew of Euro countries.
Also, if he kept going, there would be no plane search that turned up nothing, missing the opportunity to egg-up a bunch of fascistas faces.
Being an American ain't worth a warm bucket of spit these days. Aplologies to Harry Truman (not really)
Don't confuse America with Americans. The majority are not represented, nor have they been in a very long time. Lions led by donkeys.
US Empire has at least 7 military bases in Italy not to mention a couple of sweet golf courses for the generals..........
http://militarybases.com/overseas/italy/
some say there are over 100
http://saganic.blogspot.com/2007/06/us-military-bases-in-italy-there-are...
War Department operates over 200 golf courses all over the world (empire)
http://www.policymic.com/articles/21194/defense-department-operates-234-...
Golf. I good walk ruined. Mark Twain.
Stupid, silly game. In the future, it may be the only 'green' lands we will have left.
Ohio built too many golf courses....now I see cattle on them. What a beautiful sight!
Why the fuck didn't they just keep going?
Because Morales knew, or perhaps was informed by radio, of something the NSA had on him that he didn't know, and then wisely chose to keep his options open by ordering the pilot to comply with the 'land in Vienna immediately' command relayed from GoBombEm's cabal to the Austrian political authorities and from there to the air and military ATC.
The Falcon only made one 180 deg turn back, landing Vienna with no evasive manuevers: it was a one-time decision to discontinue the flight, in which Morales was intimidated or bought off.
so the nsa had something on him. but who the hell cares if he stays up in the wee hours playing call of duty.
I'm now leaning my thinking to that he actually might be on board, and this is just a chess game. Diplomatic immunity prevents anyone from searching the plane. Even the US wouldn’t dare fuck with this precedent. Maybe, just maybe, Bolivia is playing their hand right... the rest of the table is folding:
Portugal and France just lifted their flight restrictions.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/03/edward-snowden-asylum-live
GoBombEm's cabal - I like that.
Oh would somebody please call the bluff of the bully already...it only takes one for momentum to build....
Ahhh, the irony. Snowden lets the Euros know they are being spied on by USA. Euros become enraged, demand answers from USA. Then the VERY SAME GUY who showed them the truth...that they were being spied on...is denied airspace rather than having a hero's welcome.
SCHIZOOOOOOO
Saying one thing for their populace, while doing another for their masters.
#41
Europeans
you mean Hollande and Merkel et al
Merkel who says let the Greeks sink as she has her bundesbanksters bail them out (not once but many times)
the German sheep are as pathetic as their American cousins
and as for the French, even worse
The politicians are all liars. The UK supposedly spies on Americans and gives the data to NSA. NSA spies on Brits and gives it to Mi6 or 5. NSA probably spies on all of Europe and gives each country the data to their own citizens. Each country has laws that they can't spy on their own citizens but say Germany's laws have nothing about the NSA spying on German citizens. It's all NWO.
Freddie - NSA just straight up spies on Americans in America as well.
See William Binney.
Ahhh, the irony. Snowden lets the Euros know they are being spied on by USA. Euros become enraged, demand answers from USA. Then the VERY SAME GUY who showed them the truth...that they were being spied on...is denied airspace rather than having a hero's welcome.
" SCHIZOOOOOOO "
" 21st Century Schizoid Man " - King Crimson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujIbpt-CCTY
Can probably just refuel, head over slovenia, then scott free, right?
Maybe they can head to Transylvania and destroy the home of all the evil vampire squids.
the united states is a nazi nation ruled by nazis for nazis......edward snowden, man without a country, was the last american patriot. god bless and god speed in exposing the nazis - both of the republican and democrat variety.....
the nazi in chief will send a drone to murder him as he has done with all of his political enemies....
Bingo .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is7Qnlt62dk
Can't believe he didn't set up an escape route and several ID's.
If I were him and had his access I would have the world looking at Vienna while I was sitting in Vanuatu...or wherever laughing.
Just sayin, this is getting weird...on the other hand, every revolution needs a martyr.
Some are born great, others achieve greatness and some have greatness thrust upon them.
He's "long gone", with a Ruskie > 200 RUBLE< Get out of Gulag card.
Monopoly, "Russian Style".
Or on his next assignment...sorry couldn't help myself.
loved that putin tongue in cheek statement: ...he can stay as long as he stops hurting our dear close warm friendly comrades in the usa... LMAO!
But the quote didn't end there.....Putin went on to say, "I know this sounds very strange coming from my mouth." It was an article in The Guardian. I thought I had saved it.
In fact the author of the article said, 'This will enrage the US...'
A lot of people think that.
But exposing the criminal elite (of all countries) is a priceless gift...to us ;-)
He did not set up an escape plan because he did not think this through. He thought he could release all of this national security stuff and be hailed by all the OWS crowd as a hero..and they would welcome him home with flower petals and virgins.
What he did was piss off the empire. And the empire doesn't like to be pissed off.
He might be the smartest hacker with a GED. But he is a frickin idiot.
Or wants to be a martyr/patriot. I can't see any other explaination for it, I really can't.
If acting as advertised, he knew they would rain all the fire & fury a world power can muster. If a spook, what was gained by divulging all this?
All they've done is increase (confirm) the publics suspicions about big government and the public is not shutting up about it...they're outraged, rightly so.
If a spook-op to repress free speech (internet or otherwise)...it backfired...IMO.
so he's been in an airport for 9 days and no one can find him?
thats not a little suspicious?
Slightly...but they seem to know where he's at...at all times...not very much on the down low.
I'm envisioning a press gaggle in the Aeroflot lounge, now, getting bored with the free borscht and prodding him Forward to greener pastures ;-)
Sounds like my luggage on United.
There is only one place Snowy can get asylum - Iran. A country effectively in a state of war with the US, and who doesn't give a flying fuck how much they piss the USA off. And he never asked Iran for Asylum. I can't imagine he really wants to go there. But in the end he will have no choice.
Obama to We the People: "who you callin' 'you people?'"
LOL
It's OK. A whole new bunch of people are going to wake up that their countries are not as independent as they once believed. If this does not show that they are all answering to a puppeteer power greater than even the US Government, nothing will!
Didn't Austria respond to Snowden that he could only apply for asylem if his at the border or within the country.
Yep, if he was on the plane he would have been able to ask directly for asylum. Then Austria would have been shitting their depends.
I am surprised that the Wiki Lawyers didn't think this through.... Rookies....
Can you say Idi Amin our sweet aminican leader
http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/beyond-snowden-us-general-cart...
The rats are eating each other. There is a serious shadow power struggle happening right now and they are playing for keeps.
and so the facade of civility is stripped away...we see behind the curtain...
"The illusion of freedom in America will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater." ~Frank Zappa
Frank knew it.
Well Frank's old man was MIC and maybe Frank was as well.
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1169856/pg1
Europe is a dead empire. Should be more concerned with Germany going to the right after Merkel is kicked out.
Europe/America has zero swing in South America
Europe/America has zero swing in South America
If only...
It just goes to show you how much they need to turn the EU into a true 4th Reich.
All Iraqis and Afghans who launch attacks on US forces for invading their country for no rhyme or reason are terrorists. Similarly all Americans who expose the attempts of the political administration to curb human rights and privacy of the majority of the population are branded as traitors.
Welcome to new age democracy.
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article40231.html
So, are we gonna storm other countries AF1s now looking for Snowden? Is that our new modus operandi?
Would the USA take it kindly if dingleBarry's AF1 was "trapped" over (say) Somalia on its way back from the $100M pleasure trip, forced to land, and then searched for whatever? Call it BlackDOVE Down.
Or would that be a near act of war?
Calling it war might be to strong a term... might infer racism, no?
WTH does race have to do with this?
Snowden should come back home. The US won't act rash, just send him to a re-education camp in a remote jungle. That's not so bad. It's the simple ways of democracy and freedom in America.
Come home Snowden, Obama missses youuuu with hugs and kissssseessss :)
somewhere, far away, electrodes sit, unattached to testicles. sad, really.
By Xecutive order GoBombEm has changed the penalties for 'delivering the wrong message' - to 30 days, in the electric chair.
Why did they not just ask the NSA whether Snowden was on the plane?
Just goes to show how corrupt the world govs are.