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Coup Under Way In Egypt, President Advisor Says, Warns About "Considerable Bloodshed", "Tanks On Streets"

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The Egypt drama is reaching its inevitable, and largely expected, conclusion. From Reuters:

  • EGYPT PRESIDENT'S NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER SAYS MILITARY COUP UNDER WAY
  • NO MILITARY COUP CAN SUCCEED AGAINST POPULAR RESISTANCE WITHOUT CONSIDERABLE BLOODSHED -MURSI AIDE
  • MURSI ADVISER SAYS EXPECTS ARMY, POLICE VIOLENCE TO REMOVE PRO-MURSI DEMONSTRATORS
  • EGYPT BROTHERHOOD SPOKESMAN SAYS TANKS ON STREETS, VIA TWITTER
  • SEVERAL HUNDRED EGYPTIAN SOLDIERS, TOGETHER WITH ARMOURED VEHICLES, PERFORM MILITARY PARADE ON MAIN ROAD NEAR PRESIDENTIAL PALACE - REUTERS WITNESS

In other words, if Morsi leaves, you get a Civil War.

Elsewhere: 

As for the US...

 

 US stocks, in the meantime, at day's highs.

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Wed, 07/03/2013 - 11:48 | 3718144 JeremyWS
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Bullish, as always....

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 11:53 | 3718172 suteibu
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The destruction of a foreign nation is always good for American business.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 11:58 | 3718195 ACP
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I guess that's why the powers that be are doing a pre-emptive stock bang-up.

 

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:00 | 3718202 suteibu
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If war/destruction was unprofitable, we would have a lot less of it.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:02 | 3718208 CPL
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How is trading in bits of unbacked worthless IOU's that will never be repayed profitable?

It's the reason the world is in the shape it is.  Lots and lots of IOU's.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:07 | 3718242 TeamDepends
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And I will set the Egyptians against the Egyptians; and they shall fight every one against his brother, and every one against his neighbour; city against city, kingdom against kingdom.

Isaiah 19:2

No, we are not "Bible-thumpers", just find it interesting.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:09 | 3718258 suteibu
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Oh!  That's from the Bible?  I thought it was America's foreign policy.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:14 | 3718291 francis_sawyer
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Tanks on Streets?

~~~

Didn't Hank 'The Tank' Paulson warn everybody about this?

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:17 | 3718302 suteibu
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Who did the US imagine they would use all of this hardware on...Israel?  I thnk not.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:20 | 3718309 jbvtme
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and what do the french press have to say?  morsi beaucoup

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:41 | 3718435 Chupacabra-322
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Civil War is what you don't want.  It pits brother against brother.

Revolution is what you want.  It pits you against The Global Criminal Oligarch Cabal Bankster Intelligence Crime (NWO)Syndicate. 

Civil War is exactly what the Globalists want.  Order Out of Chaos.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:18 | 3718304 jbvtme
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out

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:21 | 3718330 TeamDepends
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Seems like the Puppetmasters, the ones who determine "foreign policy", are well aware of End Times Prophecy and are pulling the pin?

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:33 | 3718353 francis_sawyer
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What do you expect?... They're all fucking cheesepope INBREDS without an original thought among them... All they have to go by is a dusty old playbook... Thanks [Reuters/Rothschild]... we're hangin' on your every move...

~~~

Leave the gun... Take the Cannoli...

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:37 | 3718416 jbvtme
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it's a race against time.  we got to get them to the colloseum before the lions go extinct

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:51 | 3718491 cougar_w
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Well  ... no.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 13:19 | 3718640 Uncle Remus
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Self-fulfilling. You're talking about self-fulfilling.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:18 | 3718298 jbvtme
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out

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 13:44 | 3718785 El Diablo Rojo
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Well teamdepends,

I find it interesting that the quote is completely out of context. Since that entire chapter had to do with an ongoing feud between the kingdom of Judah (specifically the King Hezekiah), pinned between the Kingdom of Egypt and the Assyrian Kingdom at the time. His advisor Isaiah, tells him to go to war after he lost to Assyria, and tells him Egypt won't attack because of drought and internal strife.

But what you did there was nice.......... That is the kind of journalistic integrity we have come to expect from the news media.

 

 

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:04 | 3718219 ACP
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This is the same kind of stock slam that happened on 6/13. EXACTLY the same, step-by-step process.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:28 | 3718368 CheapBastard
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Is the "p" silent in "coup?"

 

Or do you pronounce it like "chicken coop" in this special case?

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:58 | 3718536 stormsailor
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ONLY IF ITS A 2 DOOR OVERTHROW.

IF ITS A 4 DOOR OVERTHROW, ITS A SEDAN, LOL

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 13:25 | 3718672 Uncle Remus
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Maybe it's a cabriolet...

 

(it's obtuse I know...)

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:19 | 3718316 Mugatu
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Why can't they do what is done here in America to placate the masses?  Just do some QE, print some money, give people free phones or some shit like that!

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:28 | 3718372 Go Tribe
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Daddy wrecked cars,

Obama wrecks countries.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 11:54 | 3718178 max2205
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AND WE'RE GREEN....

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:01 | 3718212 gjp
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Aint nothin gonna stop US traders from doing their rah-rah Independence Day thing ...

Actually, this would have happened on any other day too.  The business of America is ponzi.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 11:56 | 3718187 Cortez the Killer
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Allah willing, the streets will run red with Arab blood

Or whatever the fuck those damned muzzies say

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:08 | 3718245 Buckaroo Banzai
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Islam: celebrating 1300+ years of uninterrupted violence, chaos, and ignorance. Allahu Akbar!

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:18 | 3718306 Ghordius
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Christians (me including) have a longer, bloodier record. Meanwhile muslims preserved and copied many books from our antiquity, thus making us a great favour, together with a lot of knowledge from India, including lots of math, medicine, commerce practices,etc.

Allahu Akbar really means "I believe in one God, and this God is great" - and so fitting to any monotheist

meh, not that you haven't had many replies of this kind - so why don't you tell us about your personal experiences with Islam?

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:25 | 3718351 Buckaroo Banzai
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Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. The idea that Christians have a "longer, bloodier" record is total bullshit, completely unsupported by facts.

Meanwhile, 1300+ years of continuous muslim violence, oppression, and atrocities is papered over by armies of apologists. 

Keep parrotting the lies, dipshit.

Try some facts on for size, if your tiny brain can accommodate them.

"One of the most enduring problems of history is the decline of Classical Civilization. How was it that the civilization of Greece and Rome, which had endured almost a thousand years, a civilization which prized learning, science and reason, gave way to the world of the Medieval; an age which saw, for a while, the almost complete disappearance of the rationalist spirit of Greece and Rome? The traditional view was that after their seizure of Italy in the fifth century, the Barbarian tribes of Germany and Scythia had reduced Europe to an economic and cultural wasteland, initiating a Dark Age, which was to last half a millennium. After the Reformation, another suspect was added to the list: Christianity, or, more accurately, Catholic Christianity. In this view Christianity was corrupted beyond recognition after the time of Constantine and from the fourth century onwards a power-hungry Church hierarchy, in cahoots with the Imperial authorities, kept the population of Europe in subservience and ignorance, effectively completing the destructive work of the Barbarians.


In this ground-breaking work, historian John J. O'Neill examines a great variety of evidence from many specialties and reaches an astonishing and novel conclusion: Classical Civilization was not destroyed by Barbarians or by Christians. It survived intact into the early seventh century. The Vandals and Goths who seized the Western Empire in the fifth century had become completely romanized by the start of the sixth century. Artistic and intellectual life flourished, as did the economy and the cities built earlier under the Empire. Yet sometime in the middle of the seventh century everything changed. Cities were abandoned, literacy plummeted, royal authority declined and local strongmen, or "barons", seized control of the provinces. The Middle Ages had begun.

Who or what had caused this? As O'Neill notes, by the 1920s Belgian historian Henri Pirenne had located the proverbial "smoking gun"; but it was not in the hands of the Barbarians or the Christians: it was held by those who, even then, it had become fashionable to credit with saving, rather than destroying, Classical Civilization: the Arabs. In a conclusion that will have resonance for the modern world, O'Neill argues convincingly that all we regard as "Medieval" had its origin in Islam, and that the Muslims terminated Classical Civilization in Europe just as surely as they did in the Middle East. O'Neill shows how the sudden relapse of Europe in the seventh century was due entirely to the economic blockade imposed by Islam's war against Christendom. The Mediterranean, which had previously been a cultural highway, now became a frontier, and a very dangerous frontier at it. Prompted by Islam's doctrine of perpetual war against nonbelievers, Muslim pirates scoured the Mediterranean, effectively ending all trade between Europe and the great centers of civilization in the Near East. The flow of gold ended, as did the supply of all luxury items. And so too did the supply of papyrus from Egypt, without which Europeans were forced to rely on expensive parchment. Not surprisingly, literacy plummeted. Worst of all, the great cities of the West, which depended upon the trade in luxury items from the East, began to decline.

As the dominant power of the time, ideas originating in the Islamic world now began to penetrate Europe. From their Muslim foes Christian Europeans began to think in terms that would have been unimaginable a century earlier. The idea of "Holy War" entered the mindset of Christians, and, under the influence of Islam, the rationalism of Greece and Rome began to be replaced by a literal and intolerant interpretation of "The Book." Classical civilization was dead."

http://www.amazon.com/Holy-Warriors-Classical-Civilization-ebook/dp/B007...

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:32 | 3718385 Herd Redirectio...
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Ahaahahahhaha.  The barbarians were fully romanized, and it was the Arabs fault that there were dark ages! LOL

Published in our modern era no less.

No one is saying the Ottomans were exceedingly civil, but if I could be so bold to suggest a rethink.  Russian mathematician Anatoly Fomenko has a different view on the 'Dark Ages', and while its unlikely he is correct about everything (no one is) he has put together a very coherent case for DOCUMENTED HISTORY only starting around 1300.   Clay tablets, papyrus, no older than 700 years according to Fomenko.

So he's not saying the Dark Ages didn't exist, but that we have no verifiable facts from the era.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:36 | 3718408 Herd Redirectio...
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Oh yeah, he also says the Mongols were Turkic/Slavic (thats right, both), not Oriental.   One anecdote he relates regards the name of Genghis Khan's capital, the still never found Karakorum, which he says suspects is derived from the Slavic "Khan Khoromniy", the Khan's Abode.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 13:06 | 3718568 BurningFuld
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The families that caused the Dark Ages in Europe are the ones in power in the USA now.  Laugh at that!

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:41 | 3718402 Ghordius
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interesting mixture of truths and lies, this one. do I get it right? Islam blockaded the gold against luxuries trade and so Europe collapsed in the 7th century? what about wheat from Egypt?

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 13:35 | 3718706 Uncle Remus
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BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHahahahahaahahahahahahahahahaha.

I love the smell of revisionist out-of-context history in the morning. It smells like the former Pope's Pradas.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:27 | 3718360 Cortez the Killer
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can we start w pressure cookers and sneaker bombs?

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 13:41 | 3718757 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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More Muslims have been killed by Muslims over Sunni and Shi'a bullshit than have ever been killed by other faiths. Islam is a idea based on violence and the total elimination of all of faiths by deadly force or submission to slavery.

Your attempt to paint it different is why Islam always fails. It is based on lies.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 14:00 | 3718842 Uncle Remus
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Shi'a - arguably it has evolved to be the Muslim version of the Catholic church that originally was about a family/Tribal (ostensibly that of the Prophet) bloodline Caliph (in the glory days).

 

That said, the Sunni/Shi'a rift won't be allowed to heal. It's too valuable to the reptilian overlords for it's divisiveness.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:21 | 3718331 thisandthat
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Still plenty to go to match Christianity. Praise God!

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:38 | 3718403 Rusty Shorts
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ALLAHU SNACKBAR ALLAHU SNACKBAR ALLAHU SNACKBAR

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 13:33 | 3718714 Uncle Remus
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It's all halal.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:11 | 3718273 StarTedStackin'
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Any day Islamists kill other Islamists is a good day in my book.

 

 

Those people are like wild kneegrows in a race riot

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:56 | 3718525 cougar_w
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Try love.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:13 | 3718283 Proofreder
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The Morsi supporters are akin to christian fundies - unyielding in every way.  Total resistance to change and, like several current CONgress critters, they delight in 'just say NO'.

This is the attitude in the streets of Cairo - a small band of fundamentalists, using religion as a cover for personal and political gain, are not willing to let go of seized power and control.  And now they threaten to kill.

However, in the larger scheme of things, being grossly outnumbered and opposed by the military (100 % trained and educated in the U.S.S.A), only those true fanatics will indeed die in the hope of achieving recognized martyrdom.  And try to take someone else with them.  That's the real issue.

Religious fundamentalists of all brands are batshit crazy people - now how to convince them to suicide??

The lady ambassador needs to resign, now, for a start to ease the building hatred against the 'states.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:18 | 3718310 McMolotov
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Oh yeah?! Well my god can beat up your god!

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:30 | 3718383 Proofreder
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Who is your god?

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:37 | 3718413 Rusty Shorts
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"In God We Trust"

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:45 | 3718468 Proofreder
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Ahhh, that one - the god on the Dollar$ - looks like a pyramid with an eye, correct?

Obviously NSA.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:47 | 3718473 McMolotov
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The Fonz. He can hit a jukebox and make it turn on. He can snap his fingers and get chicks. He jumps sharks. Ayyy-men.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 13:37 | 3718736 de3de8
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Once in awhile (not often enough) get a string of responses that provides for laughs that continues to build to a burst of audible release! The above very good, no exception and kudos to all!

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 13:03 | 3718553 cougar_w
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In the interest of not playing favorites, I change gods at least once a week. There are so many I still haven't come back to the top of the list.

In observance of the uprisings in Egypt, and the ongoing US heatwave, this week my god is Mahes. Egyptian god of the summer heat. Yeah they had gods for weather, that's how serious they took things. 

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 13:43 | 3718772 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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Allah and he is a pimp.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 15:16 | 3719217 stormsailor
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god is love

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 15:17 | 3719222 stormsailor
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love is blind

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 15:17 | 3719224 stormsailor
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ray charles was blind

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 20:21 | 3720136 StychoKiller
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And therefore...

Shall Brutha Ray rise from the dead in 3 days?  Signs point to 'no', but Ray was a musical genius!

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:28 | 3718371 Buckaroo Banzai
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The difference between a muslim fundamentalist and a christian fundamentalist, is that the Muslim fundamentalist is commanded by Allah to kill you, as is clearly and exhaustively documented in the Koran.

Try finding that message in the New Testament.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:34 | 3718398 XitSam
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Are you saying it is in the old testament?

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 13:12 | 3718600 nonclaim
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Technically the old law is not christian.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 13:32 | 3718710 XitSam
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Good point. But they still believe OT to be the word of god, right? 

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 13:46 | 3718793 Uncle Remus
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In the context of "People of the Book", that is, followers of a revealed scripture of Abrahamic faith - Jews, Christians, etc.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 14:13 | 3718924 cougar_w
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Well the Christians claim the OT when they want to. Like when they go on about the devil and the fall of man, or the fates of Sodom and Gomorrah, or how the God of Abraham is a jealous God, and that whole "10 Commandment" thing involving Charlton Heston.

The OT God is a ball buster, let me tell you what. Believe on me or I put a cap in yo ass, mo'fo'.

Jesus went all touchie-feelie love-thy-brother and all'o that, but his Dad was old skool let-it-burn.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 17:53 | 3719654 Uncle Remus
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Sumptin' to be sed fer old skool.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 14:14 | 3718932 thisandthat
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(True) but go tell that to the evangelists...

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 13:12 | 3718601 cougar_w
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The New Testament is the story of Jesus. IIRC, he didn't live long enough to fight any wars.

To get any war action you have to go back to the Old Testament, which spans about 6000 years of Life With God. According to the Bible God had hella to say about smitting, and at one point sets out to kill every living thing on earth. For realz.

These days she keeps it closer to home:

http://madscienceunlimited.com/fiction/aTearForTheSinner.html

Perhaps you can pardon her culinary tendencies. Payback is a bitch, baby.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 13:49 | 3718801 Uncle Remus
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"The New Testament is the story of Jesus. IIRC, he didn't live long enough to fight any wars."

Sadly, the number of wars fought in His name have made up for that.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 14:14 | 3718934 cougar_w
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Word on the street is, he's a little pissed about that.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 17:55 | 3719661 Uncle Remus
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I hear He's not likely to be quite so, how you say, forgiving next time around. I mean, seeing as how the clock is running out and all, as it were.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 11:49 | 3718150 Dr. Engali
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Okay is it Mursi, Morsi, or Moarsi? And what does this have to do with Paula Dean anyway?

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 11:50 | 3718155 Temporalist
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Well she said something about pork which pissed off a bunch of Muslims and then someone made a movie on youtube and this is how the whole thing started.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 11:52 | 3718159 Bay of Pigs
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This piggie loves pork.

MOAR, MOAR, MOAR....

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:28 | 3718217 TruthInSunshine
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 US stocks, in the meantime, at day's highs.

C'mon, don't be a FOMO!

NY Fed buys USD 5.21bln in the maturity range of Mar'18 – Feb'19

There's NEVER been a better time (over the last 4 years through present; future cloudy however) to be an executive at a publicly traded corporation if you are compensated to any degree (and especially in large degree) based on vested company shares and you have input on share "buyback" programs, where such corporations, regardless of their health or future prospects, can float debt issuance at historically low rates in order to back up the company truck and purchase more of the company's own shares, thus further indebting the company (i.e. shareholders that aren't so "compensated" and stacking piles of debt on the ledger), thus driving the share price higher, and cha-ching!

By the time shareholders (you know - the ones who bought, rather than were "awarded," their shares with their own fiat -probably levered highly - on the Muppet exchange) get the reality of what's been happening, the anal-cysts will be telling them to "cost average down" their blood letting, and the corporate insiders will have already been looooong cashed out of the fun house.

Ben Bernank's Carnival. Step right up and let Ben guess your toxic assets' FMV, then let you mark it to a valuation based on the wide gaap LULZ standard, and Ben might even be able to buy it from you with the stroke of an alchemist's wand, if it can be stuffed into one of the FRBNY's septic Maiden Lane slush funds (I through XXXXXVIII).

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:33 | 3718393 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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It's never been a question of morality for the FED. The FED is a bank. It has always been a question about balance sheets. And confidence.The FED is a machine. It targets numbers which have nothing to do with life. Morality is about life.

Re-build the banks' balance sheets. That's it. They were insolvent. Now, they're semi solvent.

Yippee.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 13:06 | 3718544 TruthInSunshine
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You dare imply that Modern Money Mechanics is akin to a confidence game? 

Blasphemer!

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:04 | 3718224 McMolotov
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"Bacon tastes good. Pork chops taste good." </Vincent Vega>

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:09 | 3718259 kridkrid
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My girlfiend's a vegetarian, which pretty much makes me a vegetarian.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:12 | 3718278 StarTedStackin'
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So you don't eat her meatpie?

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:14 | 3718286 Terminus C
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Damn you STS... beat me by seconds...

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:17 | 3718301 francis_sawyer
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So... She's a "COW" eh?...

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:13 | 3718284 Terminus C
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Does she at least let you eat clam?

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 13:43 | 3718777 de3de8
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Tuna taco

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:15 | 3718294 prains
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well you're not waking up in the morning with pork shame

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:16 | 3718297 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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As rule of thumb I don't date women who don't like meat in their mouth.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:18 | 3718311 francis_sawyer
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BACONATERS bitchez!

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:23 | 3718336 prains
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What channel is CNN on? I need to catch up on what is really going on in the world.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:13 | 3718280 Vincent Vega
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Ah, so by that rationale, if a pig had a better personality, he would cease to be a filthy animal. Is that true?  ~vv

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:36 | 3718405 pods
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Well that'd have to be one charmin motherfuckin pig!

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:38 | 3718423 pods
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"Bacon tastes good. Pork chops taste good." </Vincent Vega>

Well sewer rat might taste like pumpkin pie, but I'll never know cause I'll never eat the filthy motherfucka!

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 13:19 | 3718642 Things that go bump
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You don't know what you would eat if you were starving and your life depended on it. 

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 14:21 | 3718963 thisandthat
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Probably would even eat parts of himself, just to save the rest...

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 14:23 | 3718970 Things that go bump
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Like that unpleasant Stephen King story.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 11:52 | 3718169 Ying-Yang
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I think some said.... I want Moar, si?

and some want less... no?

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 11:55 | 3718181 Joe Sixpack
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Sort of like Qaddafi, Kadafi, Kaddaffii, Qadafi, Ghadaffi, etc., etc., etc.

Those middle easterners just don't know how to spell their own names. sheesh.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 11:59 | 3718198 Spastica Rex
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And on the eighth day, God created Latin script, and he saw that it was good, and that there was no need for any other kind of gay writing.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:07 | 3718240 Dr. Engali
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Lol .. You crack me up sometimes.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:02 | 3718201 McMolotov
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For the love of God, is the country of Qatar pronounced "Cut-Ar" or "Gutter?" And is Niger "Nye-jer" or "Nee-jair?" They keep changing this shit.

Whatever, Judge Judy's on.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:44 | 3718461 thisandthat
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Cat-ar; Nee-jer.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:48 | 3718481 Rusty Shorts
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Nii-jer or Nye-jer

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 14:58 | 3719111 thisandthat
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Well, since it's actually a Tuareg name (egerew n-igerewen), should be pronounced as such, and that means Nigger...

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 17:59 | 3719677 Uncle Remus
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Hmm. Google translated it to "get the fuck off my oasis".

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 14:13 | 3718923 TheFourthStooge-ing
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McMolotov asked:

For the love of God, is the country of Qatar pronounced "Cut-Ar" or "Gutter?"

With the people running the show there? It's gutter, without a doubt.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 11:51 | 3718157 slaughterer
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C'mon, it was all a farce to begin with.    

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:26 | 3718358 Oleander
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Its all Farsi isn't it?

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 18:00 | 3719679 Uncle Remus
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*sigh*

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 11:51 | 3718158 Yen Cross
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  The 10 year is creeping higher, so 'Chair Satan' chose the equity markets for the PPT MOMO meme.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 11:52 | 3718162 Translational Lift
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In other words, if Morsi leaves, you get a Civil War. US stocks, in the meantime, at day's highs.

Worser is better untill further notice....the Bernak....

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 11:52 | 3718164 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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I love a good coup ... (sung to the tune of "I love a parade" ...)

 

 

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 11:52 | 3718166 kito
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What is the hullabaloo about......what civil war?? The people are ecstatic the military intervened...military junta until elections.....now Egyptian military can get more money from uncle sugars foreign welfare program......move along....Dow green....

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 11:55 | 3718184 NoDebt
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Nailed it.

Although, you must admit a military coup that doesn't involve mowing it's own people down by the thousands is a bit of a rarity in the middle east.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:09 | 3718263 Buckaroo Banzai
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This is the kind of progress that Obama brings to the middle east. FORWARD!

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 18:01 | 3719683 Uncle Remus
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Progress and Obama in the same sentence.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:22 | 3718334 MachoMan
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Yep.  And the new fangled version of collective bargaining is incredibly interesting...  It's an ambiguous sign in that it could be an incredibly positive development for J6P world wide, but it's also a necessary stop on our road to the brave new world...  time will tell. 

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 11:52 | 3718167 Temporalist
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'Restore the Fourth': Reddit, Mozilla, thousands of people set for July 4 NSA spying protest

"But the protest doesn’t stop online. Organizers are planning live protests in dozens of US cities, including New York, Philadelphia, Boston, Washington, D.C., Los Angeles, San Francisco, Houston, and Atlanta. Doug MacArthur, a member of Restore the Fourth's national board and moderator on Reddit’s r/news, expects between 10,000 and 20,000 people to take part in the protests in the nation’s larger cities."

http://rt.com/usa/nsa-online-protest-rally-611/

 

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 11:53 | 3718171 observer007
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Fastest Live-Ticker about Egypt:

 

New every Minute

 

http://tersee.com/#q=egypt&t=text

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 11:53 | 3718174 rubearish10
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Would someone please pull the US Equity Monkey Hammer out of the closet already!

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 11:55 | 3718182 NOTW777
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well, if he goes he will be welcome with cnbc - his biggest cheerleader; they have voiced their outrage that this wonderful, freely elected, democratic leader is being challenged

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 11:57 | 3718190 NoDebt
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Yeah, they did sorta say that, didn't they?

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 11:57 | 3718189 smacker
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[OT]

Bolivian FAB1 has just left Las Palmas/Canary Isles after (presumably) a re-fueling stop.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 11:57 | 3718191 bnbdnb
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Who the fuck stepped on the ant hill?

http://live.reuters.com/Event/World_News

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 11:59 | 3718196 Gold N Glocks
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Wish our military would remove our mooslim bro from the WH...

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 11:59 | 3718199 thismarketisrigged
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looking at the u.s ponzi scheme ''market'', u would not know anything is going on or egypt, nor would you even think twice if anything is going on in the world,

 

bernanke is pumping his 5 billion to reward the 1 percent heading into july 4th.

 

we should send the fed to egypt and let them be killed in the chaos.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:00 | 3718205 TrustWho
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Daddy Bernanke says Fuck Egypt, insignificant country! I will print money for the oil shippers so we can keep oil prices in USA from rising and going around Africa just creates more economic activity; thus more jobs. Jobs, that is my objective, but TRUST ME, I WILL NOT ALLOW ANYTHING TO CHANGE THE slope of the S&P 500 trend line. 

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:05 | 3718206 Cash-NonCash
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How ironic that 150 years ago today the Battle of Gettysburg was drawing to a close, marking the turning point in the US civil war.  Between forty-six and fifty-one thousand soldiers were killed in the three day battle, and General Lee was forced to retreat back to Virginia.  How ironic that every democracy in the history of the world has entered into civil war, yet not one nation has learned from the other's mistakes.  Egypt will get so much worse before perhaps getting any better.  Savage rape and assault rules the night and protesting Obama's involvement rules the day.  Guess what Obama?  MYOB!  Go check on your West Lawn garden and see how it grows!

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:11 | 3718271 Buckaroo Banzai
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It wasn't a "civil war". It was the War For Southern Independence. Or, the War of Northern Aggression.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:26 | 3718355 Cash-NonCash
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"The Woah" as my great grand aunts would say.  I refer to it as the "US Civil War" for the benefit of our foreign colleagues.  I am a Mississippi gulf coast native and my southern pride runs deeper than the Laurentian Abyss, so settle down Mr. Semantics!

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:28 | 3718369 Flakmeister
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More like the War to let us keep our Slaves....

Here the excerpt  from the CSA V.P. Alexander Stephans dated  March 21, 1861

Our new Government is founded upon exactly the opposite ideas; its foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery, subordination to the superior race, is his natural and normal condition.[1]

Maybe you should expand your understanding of how post revisionst claptrap is created:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_Cause

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:36 | 3718407 Spastica Rex
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There you go again - more sissy hand wringing over facts. Didn't eat your tofu this morning?

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:42 | 3718451 Flakmeister
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What can I say but understanding of damn well near anything is always based on facts and not projection of belief....

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 13:21 | 3718649 WillyGroper
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You're on a roll today SR. LOL

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 13:52 | 3718815 de3de8
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That he is!

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 13:55 | 3718835 stormsailor
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about 46,000 casualities, but that is killed, wounded, and captured.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:02 | 3718215 EhKnowKneeMass
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Why does coup has the 'p' silent, whereas soup does not?

Moarsi!
Moar si!
Moar, si senor!
Moar, si senor, bernank!

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:05 | 3718234 Vooter
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Just say "poop"--it works whether you pronounce the final "p" or not!

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:30 | 3718382 Schmuck Raker
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I love these puzzles, "What comes next?", right?

A: "Mas, mas, mas, si si senor"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xql5M1chIVs

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:03 | 3718221 loveyajimbo
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Chakka Obunga weeps over the removal of his muslim brotherhood "brother"... will he send in US troops to support the radical muslims? Oh, forgot... he is still trying to get a photo op with Mandela...e ven though Mandela despises this craven fraud...

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 13:29 | 3718692 knukles
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He already sent 400 troopies trained in riot control a few days ago.

How quickly we forget.
Handy timing, no?
Ah, more conspiracy thoughts....

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:04 | 3718226 Temporalist
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Coup, coup catchoo (the only thing that makes sense anymore are Beatles lyrics):

I Am The Walrus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r52ZBx0KMI

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:05 | 3718228 ShrNfr
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Brotherhood now tweets that there are tanks on the streets.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:05 | 3718229 azengrcat
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Good thing they have plenty of M1 Abrams Tanks:

"The M1 Abrams can use the M1028 canister round, which is an antipersonnel munition, packed with over 1,000 tungsten balls" -Wikipedia

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:05 | 3718233 observer007
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Here are LATEST VIDEOS about Egypt:

 

http://tersee.com/#q=egypt&t=video

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:08 | 3718253 shankster
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That's why the market is up.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:09 | 3718261 youngman
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I don´t think Islamists like to leave very easily...they kind of like the power thing...and all the control...and hove no problem dying for what they believe in...or even killing their own family for that matter....I will be suprised if these two groups are not killing each other by nighfall....

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:25 | 3718350 Proofreder
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The "Islamists" are NOT in any majority in Cairo.  They are a religious minority comprised of the remains of a secret society active in Egypt for many years and are basically fundamentalists and all that implies about absolute unyielding attitudes concerning religion - and since religion controls ALL - control over all is the goal.

On the other side are the vast majority of Egyptian citizens AND the military.

Really, the zealots don't stand much of a chance.  It's the numbers. stupid.

Too bad 'mericans don't get it.

NOTHING happens until there are millions in the streets.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:10 | 3718269 Zen Bernanke
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why is it that islamists always talk about blood in the streets, and bloodshed?  wtf is their problem with blood?  do they think mentioning blood is supposed to scare everyone into buying into their insane jihad?

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:20 | 3718324 Buckaroo Banzai
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Because killing infidels is covered pretty thoroughly in the Koran. And the neat thing about Muslims is that they are split up into lots of factions, so the word "infidel" can be applied almost universally.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:25 | 3718348 Ghordius
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don't pose as a Quran expert, or do quote the relevant Surahs with the proper annotation so that your argument can be properly debunked

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:42 | 3718449 SilverRhino
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You miserable dumb fuck.  

The Quran:

Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful.   And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."  The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries.  In fact, the verses urge offensivewarfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did).  The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is thus disingenuous (the actual Muslim words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse).  The actual Arabic comes from "fitna" which can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation.  Taken as a whole, the context makes clear that violence is being authorized until "religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.

 

Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

 

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."  Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time.  From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.

 

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

 

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".  This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah').

 

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."  The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians, led meekly to the slaughter.  These Muslims are killed in battle, as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah.  Here is the theological basis for today's suicide bombers.

 

Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

 

Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

 

Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-"  This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes.  It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle.  Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption.  (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse).

 

Quran (4:104) - "And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy; if you suffer pain, then surely they (too) suffer pain as you suffer pain..."  Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self-defense?

 

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

 

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"  No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle.

 

Quran (8:15) - "O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them. (16)Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company, he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah, and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey's end."

 

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion should be only for Allah"  Some translations interpret "fitna" as "persecution", but the traditional understanding of this word is not supported by the historical context (See notes for  2:293, also).  The Meccans were simply refusing Muhammad access to their city during Haj.  Other Muslims were allowed to travel there - just not as an armed group, since Muhammad had declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction.  The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion, since it was Muhammad's intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force (which he later did).  Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until "religion is only for Allah", meaning that the true justification of violence was the unbelief of the opposition.  According to the Sira (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 324) Muhammad further explains that "Allah must have no rivals."

 

Quran (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."  

 

Quran (8:59-60) - "And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape.  Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy."

 

Quran (8:65) - "O Prophet, exhort the believers to fight..."

 

Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."  According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam (prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religion's Five Pillars).  This popular claim that the Quran only inspires violence within the context of self-defense is seriously challenged by this passage as well, since the Muslims to whom it was written were obviously not under attack.  Had they been, then there would have been no waiting period (earlier verses make it a duty for Muslims to fight in self-defense, even during the sacred months).  The historical context is Mecca after the idolaters were subjugated by Muhammad and posed no threat.  Once the Muslims had the power, they violently evicted those unbelievers who would not convert.

 

Quran (9:14) - "Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace..."

 

Quran (9:20) - "Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah's way are of much greater worth in Allah's sight. These are they who are triumphant."  The Arabic word interpreted as "striving" in this verse is the same root as "Jihad".  The context is obviously holy war.

 

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."  "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews.  According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status.  This was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years.  Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.

 

Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

 

Quran (9:38-39) - "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place."  This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell.

 

Quran (9:41) - "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew."  See also the verse that follows (9:42) - "If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed) on them"  This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long distance from home (in another country and on Christian soil, in this case, according to the historians).

 

Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination."  Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that they are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter.  It also explains why today's devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith.

 

Quran (9:88) - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."

 

Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme."

 

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

 

Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction."  Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is "utter destruction."  (Before ordering the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden first issued Americans an invitation to Islam). 

 

Quran (18:65-81) - This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion.  The story (which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source) tells of Moses encountering a man with "special knowledge" who does things which don't seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation.  One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74).  However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would "grieve" his parents by "disobedience and ingratitude."  He was killed so that Allah could provide them a 'better' son.  (Note: This is one reason why honor killing is sanctioned by Sharia.  Reliance of the Traveler (Umdat al-Saliq) says that punishment for murder is not applicable when a parent or grandparent kills their offspring (o.1.1-2).)

 

Quran (21:44) - "We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"

 

Quran (25:52) - "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness..."   "Strive against" is Jihad - obviously not in the personal context.  It's also significant to point out that this is a Meccan verse.

 

Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while.  Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter."   This passage sanctions the slaughter (rendered "merciless" and "horrible murder" in other translations) against three groups: Hypocrites (Muslims who refuse to "fight in the way of Allah" (3:167) and hence don't act as Muslims should), those with "diseased hearts" (which include Jews and Christians 5:51-52), and "alarmists" or "agitators who include those who merely speak out against Islam, according to Muhammad's biographers.  It is worth noting that the victims are to be sought out by Muslims, which is what today's terrorists do.  If this passage is meant merely to apply to the city of Medina, then it is unclear why it is included in Allah's eternal word to Muslim generations.

 

Quran (47:3-4) - "Those who reject Allah follow vanities, while those who believe follow the truth from their lord.  Thus does Allah set forth form men their lessons by similitude.  Therefore when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners,"  Those who reject Allah are to be subdued in battle.  The verse goes on to say the only reason Allah doesn't do the dirty work himself is in order to to test the faithfulness of Muslims.  Those who kill pass the test. "But if it had been Allah's Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the Way of Allah,- He will never let their deeds be lost."

 

Quran (47:35) - "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (Shakir: "have the upper hand") for Allah is with you,"   

 

Quran (48:17) - "There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom."  Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means 'spiritual struggle.'  Is so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted?  This verse also says that those who do not fight will suffer torment in hell.

 

Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves"  Islam is not about treating everyone equally.  There are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status.  Also the word used for 'hard' or 'ruthless' in this verse shares the same root as the word translated as 'painful' or severe' in verse 16.

 

Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way"  Religion of Peace, indeed! The verse explicitly refers to "battle array" meaning war.  This is followed by (61:9): "He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist."  (See next verse, below).  Infidels who resist Islamic rule are to be fought.

 

Quran (61:10-12) - "O You who believe! Shall I guide you to a commerce that will save you from a painful torment. That you believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad ), and that you strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with your wealth and your lives, that will be better for you, if you but know! (If you do so) He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow, and pleasant dwelling in Gardens of 'Adn - Eternity ['Adn (Edn) Paradise], that is indeed the great success."  This verse refers to physical battle in order to make Islam victorious over other religions (see above).  It uses the Arabic word, Jihad.

 

Quran (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end."  The root word of "Jihad" is used again here.  The context is clearly holy war, and the scope of violence is broadened to include "hypocrites" - those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such.


From the Hadith:

 

Bukhari (52:177) - Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

 

Bukhari (52:256) - The Prophet... was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans)."  In this command, Muhammad establishes that it is permissible to kill non-combatants in the process of killing a perceived enemy.  This provides justification for the many Islamic terror bombings.

 

Bukhari (52:65) - The Prophet said, 'He who fights that Allah's Word, Islam, should be superior, fights in Allah's Cause.  Muhammad's words are the basis for offensive Jihad - spreading Islam by force.  This is how it was understood by his companions, and by the terrorists of today.  

 

Bukhari (52:220) - Allah's Apostle said... 'I have been made victorious with terror'

 

Abu Dawud (14:2526) - The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist)

 

Abu Dawud (14:2527) - The Prophet said: Striving in the path of Allah (jihad) is incumbent on you along with every ruler, whether he is pious or impious

 

Muslim (1:33) - the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah

 

Bukhari (8:387) - Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah'.  And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally."

 

Muslim (1:30) - "The Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah."

 

Bukhari (11:626) [Muhammad said:] "I decided to order a man to lead the prayer and then take a flame to burn all those, who had not left their houses for the prayer, burning them alive inside their homes."

 

Muslim (1:149) - "Abu Dharr reported: I said: Messenger of Allah, which of the deeds is the best? He (the Holy Prophet) replied: Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause..."

 

Muslim (20:4645) - "...He (the Messenger of Allah) did that and said: There is another act which elevates the position of a man in Paradise to a grade one hundred (higher), and the elevation between one grade and the other is equal to the height of the heaven from the earth. He (Abu Sa'id) said: What is that act? He replied: Jihad in the way of Allah! Jihad in the way of Allah!"

 

Muslim (20:4696) - "the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: 'One who died but did not fight in the way of Allah nor did he express any desire (or determination) for Jihad died the death of a hypocrite.'"

 

Muslim (19:4321-4323) - Three separate hadith in which Muhammad shrugs over the news that innocent children were killed in a raid by his men against unbelievers.  His response: "They are of them (meaning the enemy)."

 

Muslim (19:4294) - "When the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) appointed anyone as leader of an army or detachment he would especially exhort him... He would say: Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war...  When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them... If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them.

 

Tabari 7:97  The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, "Kill any Jew who falls under your power."  Ashraf was a poet, killed by Muhammad's men because he insulted Islam.  Here, Muhammad widens the scope of his orders to kill.  An innocent Jewish businessman was then slain by his Muslim partner, merely for being non-Muslim.

 

Tabari 9:69  "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us"  The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.

 

Tabari 17:187  "'By God, our religion (din) from which we have departed is better and more correct than that which these people follow. Their religion does not stop them from shedding blood, terrifying the roads, and seizing properties.' And they returned to their former religion."  The words of a group of Christians who had converted to Islam, but realized their error after being shocked by the violence and looting committed in the name of Allah.  The price of their decision to return to a religion of peace was that the men were beheaded and the woman and children enslaved by the caliph Ali.

 

Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 327: - “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”

 

 

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:57 | 3718516 XitSam
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Before anyone complains: Infidel means 'one without faith'  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infidel so all the 'unbeliever' quotes above do apply.

Here is another list (possibly duplicating) http://www.wvinter.net/~haught/Koran.html

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 12:57 | 3718530 thisandthat
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Now quote the bible, faggot.

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