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Nigel Farage Destroys Europe's Latest Bad Idea

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Submitted by Simon Black of Sovereign Man blog,

I’ve landed this morning in Frankfurt... financial capital of one of the few remaining ‘healthy’ countries in Europe able to inspire a modicum of confidence among investors.

As southern Europe buckles under the weight of unserviceable debt and 60%+ youth unemployment rates, Germany is coasting along with an almost historically low unemployment rate, and an almost historically high stock index.

In fact, the disparity between Germany and its southern neighbors could not be more obvious.

The German Chancellor Angela Merkel has now become a de facto Trustee of the continent. Her fingerprints are all over everything– restructuring agreements, bailout plans, the bank account theft in Cyprus, etc.

She is, at this moment, hosting an EU conference in Berlin, making a public pledge to ‘tackle’ the continent’s job crisis. This seems strangely out of her jurisdiction.

It’s bad enough when people get screwed by their own politicians. Just imagine getting screwed over by some other country’s politicians…

Of course, European policy to deal with the jobs crisis is quite simple: print more money. And the German government has had long-standing influence in European monetary policy to make this happen.

The European Central Bank is right here in Frankfurt, just a stone’s throw away from the cafe where I’m at on Gallusanlage Street. The entire edifice is a shrine to the euro, complete with a hideous monument that probably measures ten meters across.

Smartly-dressed bureaucrats are streaming in from the mothership right now for congratulatory cold beers... a day’s end toast to another job well done of conjuring more paper money out of thin air.

I have to imagine that this entire euro system is probably going to go down as one of the worst ideas in the history of economics.

The central bank fiat system that pervades global finance is already ludicrous enough. We entrust the reins of an entire economy, the prices of goods and services, the printing press, total control of financial markets– to a tiny elite.

And we’re all just supposed to trust that they’re good guys.

Here’s a great example - the Financial Times published a piece on Monday heralding Mark Carney’s first day as the new head of the Bank of England, saying that Carney must “revive the economy…”

This is one of the pre-eminent financial publications in the world, suggesting that Carney is (and should be) responsible for driving this $2.5 trillion economy. Unbelievable.

But in continental Europe it’s even worse… because this totalitarian monetary control is wielded by foreign powers, nations away.

The livelihoods of people from Portugal to Estonia, Ireland to Bulgaria (whose ‘lev’ is pegged to the euro), has been forcibly outsourced to a tiny elite here in Frankfurt, and their bureaucratic minions (many of whom are now crowding this cafe’s happy hour special).

The euro idea was a failure from the start. Even former German Chancellor Helmut Kohl, one of the chief architects of the monetary union, admitted earlier this year that he acted like a ‘dictator’ in order to push the euro through, knowing that it wouldn’t pass otherwise.

But rather than admit their mistakes and try to find a solution, European leaders seem to double down every few months on this continent with even more printing, more debt.

Their latest initiative, a few billion more to fight the youth unemployment rate, was mercilessly eviscerated yesterday in the European Parliament by Nigel Farage… one of the few voices of reason on the continent (and one of the keynote speakers at our event in Chile a few months ago).

You can watch him here:

 

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Wed, 07/03/2013 - 21:16 | 3720243 francis_sawyer
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Alas... So many 'Tony Curtis-es'... So few Simon [Lawrence Olivier] Blacks...

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 21:42 | 3720267 prains
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I suspect this article is just a front for our international man of mistory to drop off his resume at the EU main office

<---thanks Simon, but when I ski it's with the top buckle open. WHy?  because i can

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 21:56 | 3720335 espirit
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Better yet: Where's Waldo Snowden?

Did he bail out of Bolivar AF1 over the Alps?

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 22:20 | 3720371 francis_sawyer
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All I can say is that in a world of... probably... 6 BILLION, 'camera~phones'... I haven't seen even a blurry snapshot since Hong Kong [& probably before]...

~~~

For all I know ~ He's 'scuba diving' in the Indian ocean...

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 22:21 | 3720376 prains
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there's a red head dutch girl that's tied him down, taking bite mark prints off his body for positive identification

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 22:44 | 3720402 francis_sawyer
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I hope she's better looking than that camel toe'd waif from before [that, strangely or not, nobody seems to be interested in interviewing]...

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 22:55 | 3720422 prains
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everyone's shit scared a balls gonna end up in her mouth and the balance of power shifts <balls in your court>

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 23:04 | 3720434 francis_sawyer
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Well ~ I'll bet my own nutsack that Simon Black won't get the interview...

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 23:12 | 3720449 prains
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I’ve landed this morning in Frankfurt... sausage country

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 01:01 | 3720598 markmotive
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It sounds like Nigel is looking for a wholesale revolution in Europe

http://www.planbeconomics.com/2013/04/nigel-farage-on-wholesale-violent....

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 04:46 | 3720708 Acet
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I think Nigel needs to look at his own country for that.

As one of the few European countries that hasn't been under the yolk of a dictatorship (and matching counter-revolution) in a while, the UK has gone far deeper into nepotism, cronyism, political abuse and police state behaviour than a country where people still remember the stories of how it is to live under oppression (and the elites still remember what happens if they go too far) would.

As the elites further abuse everybody else, and the wider masses accumulate more small pains and humiliations and get further disinfranchised, I reckon that the UK is far more likelly to end up with a violent uprising followed by a strong-man dictatorship than most of Europe.

 

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 05:34 | 3720732 noless
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An African immigrant beheaded an off duty soldier in the middle of the street while yelling allah akbar then posed for a photo op, the motherfuckers didn't do anything, they literally just stood around waiting for something to happen..

That is my impression of the uk..

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 05:48 | 3720739 Acet
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A fear of standing out and being socially awkward is indeed a deep part of British culture: better mediocrity and stability than taking a risk for a chance at greatness.

I'm mixed in the Tech Startup world in London and I can see it: in Silicon Valley, investors will look favorably (often even demand it) if you've had a couple of failed startups under your belt, here you're expected to succeed on your first try. Failure is socially looked at as bad, rather than being seen as and indication that that person had the courage to try.

Unsurprisingly, you don't see any groundbreaking businesses taking off in London: one can't risk too much if one only has one chance and yet without risking and failing one can't learn how to do it right.

 

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 06:25 | 3720764 jbvtme
Thu, 07/04/2013 - 06:45 | 3720775 Rusticus
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It's a fine line to be sure ... in contrast, America is earning the reputation of a country where failure is rewarded.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 08:05 | 3720791 GetZeeGold
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a country where failure is rewarded.

 

You didn't build that.....but we'll take it anyway and give it to those guys.

 

Those losers earned it.

 

 

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 08:38 | 3720859 Acet
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I think that's another side and is also present in the UK (and most of Europe).

In our societies a man's money (or external signs of prosperity) became all important and the way he got it became irrelevant. The same respect is given to those that got their money through hardwork and/or taking risks as it is to those who got their money as government handouts, through corruption, cronyism and influence peddlling, through harming countless others or simply inherited it.

So the end result of this societal blindness of equating money with personal quality is the increase in people getting their money in ways other than hardwork and taking risks.

 

EDIT: Also an interesting way in which people get money to aquire external signs of wealth is going into debt (people can see the flashy car but they can't see the negative savings balance behind it). It might very well be that the increasing importace of "having money" in the way society values a man grew hand-in-hand with the growth in consumer overindebtness. Worth thinking about ...

EDIT2: In the Tech world in London (and the US) this probably also explains why so many "entrepreneurs" seek to quickly start companies, get investor money, put the product out and then sell or IPO, rather than make companies with long term prospects (i.e. they're just creating the minimum needed shell to sell to suckers, rather than creating a business). When what matters is getting the money, then getting rich by creating the next pets.com and selling it to suckers is an acceptable (and widespread) way to wealth.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:12 | 3721329 Freegold
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And Nigel needs to see the difference between cause and effect. EU and the Euro didn't cause the problems you find. Central banks set interests - risk mispriced - comingling of investment- and traditional banking - growing of the state from buying votes with money it doesn't have.

Result is to much debt, unserviceable by the real economy. And inside a currencyzone you have to be efficient and productive to be prosperous. Or you think every part of a country having it's own currency will solve all problems Nigel?

I admit that devaluing is easyer to sell to the people though.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 00:14 | 3720546 Serenity Now
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The Prancercize lady?  ;)

LOL

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 00:14 | 3720545 iDealMeat
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@ CheesePope ;)

 

To me.. So far..  The "Snowden" is a perfect plant for TPTB..

This Snowden wreaks(pun intended) of perfection in NWO plan.

If you want to beat them, think like them..

1. Create a hero for conspiracy freaks.
2.  Create plausible deniability via a (corporate subcontractor).
3. Let them distract themselves with polarized bullshit.

4. Secretly tell all Congress critters /  puppet govts. that NSA
    knows of their past digressions..  And that the "Snowden" might have it..

5. go back to the toddler eating / raping party..

5.1.  On the way back to the 7* hotel, Call for a random Mercedes to speed up
        and hit a tree in a blaze of (NO MSM) teeVee..

6. Wake up from the coke binge..

7.  goto step 1.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 00:59 | 3720594 otto skorzeny
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why no press conference with a few hundred microphones in his face or even a cell phone picture of him at the TCBY in Moscow's airport?

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 02:20 | 3720637 iDealMeat
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Indeed, Otto.

How does one "live" in a no mans land(small airport) and not get apprehendid?? If the Russian airport is no man land then there is no jurisdiction.

They almost fooled me once with the Wiki-BofA-Release.. 

I call bullshit on all the Snowden NSA BS and give all the chips over to TPTB.. 

 

Well played...

 

Edit: and H/T BTW, I sincerely hope folks around here take the time to look you up.. From "Curious George" to banging Eva Perón.. /jealous..

 

Prove me wrong... 

hoping..

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 05:59 | 3720747 zhandax
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H/T here as well.  That was some fascinating reading.  Thanks, iDM for bringing my attention to it.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 07:13 | 3720798 francis_sawyer
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@iDM

~~~

It even goes beyond that...

With this 'Millenium Falcon' bullshit [doing the Kessel Run in 12 parsecs]... They've effectively 'roll-called' the entire Western World... IOW ~ 'Here's the blueprint' for all you 'would be' whistleblowers... NO QUARTER...

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 08:27 | 3720892 Go Tribe
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I really doubt he is in the airport as we think of an airport - concourses, sleeping on benches, bad food. That would leave him open to violence, so I'm thinking he is in a well-appointed apartment with Russian security, perhaps within the airport property, but certainly he's not in a concourse.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 02:31 | 3720646 dunce
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Anna Chapman, the Russian spy we deported a few years ago has asked Snowden to marry her. He is no doubt suffering through an intense sex orgy before accepting her kind offer. I wonder what this would do to his legal status in Russia.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 02:41 | 3720652 Dugald
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The item is Farage, but all you TROLLS can pratt on about is Snowden....Christ what a boring trite bunch of shits you really are........!!!!

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 07:24 | 3720813 francis_sawyer
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Oh really?... I thought the item was Simon Black... "I've landed this morning in Frankfurt", blah blah, blah..." ~ FFS

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 07:52 | 3720845 noless
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You're right, Simon should go meet with snowden.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 22:54 | 3720419 ISEEIT
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Always gotta have a counterpunch.

Baffle 'em with bullshit...Ya know?

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 08:31 | 3720896 Aaaarghh
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Nige should be paid more and damn well knighted! what a guy. The only way he could elevate himself in my esteem further would be to kick shit out of barroso et al until they admit the euro scam failure.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 10:41 | 3721132 MSimon
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I believe you meant Bernie Schwartz.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 21:21 | 3720249 Xibalba
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He was able to fly over Frankfurt? "Just imagine getting screwed over by some other country’s politicians…"

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 22:30 | 3720389 howenlink
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I'm convinced that Farage is an apparition invented by the alCIAda to disturb my sleep.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 21:21 | 3720255 Tinky
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Forget about the collapse of Europe and various fiat currencies, Simon, how was the exclusive lounge in the Frankfurt airport?

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 21:26 | 3720270 francis_sawyer
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Frankfurt Main is a rat's maze... You're lucky to ever get out of that trap...

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 23:27 | 3720475 disabledvet
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who flies anymore. the very idea of it (unless it's my own plane) disgusts me.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 00:05 | 3720528 prains
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planes are soooo passe, whenever i need fresh crab legs for lunch i just have the bitchez risk their lives to catch them and fly them to me by naked virgins

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 06:17 | 3720758 zhandax
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Sounds better than the clothed mules the commercial airlines have hired for the last 20 years.  At least the ones before that had a sense of humor.  I got on a prop plane to the casino in Freeport from Ft. Lauderdale in 1985 after watching the damned thing catch on fire after refueling.  After we boarded, I called one of the stews over, and asked "didn't I just see this thing on fire?".  Her reply, "Hey, you wanted to gamble"  TGF scotch

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 08:19 | 3720877 espirit
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Bet is was Mackey Airlines.  Mine had oil pouring out of the right engine.

Prolly the same plane, eh?

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 21:31 | 3720278 Arrowflinger
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Barroso looked furious at the end of that tirade.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 21:41 | 3720292 Seasmoke
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Fuck Barroso. Hang him upside down at the nearest ESSO.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 21:32 | 3720279 Abi Normal
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gotta love Nigel...

too bad tho, 'they're making plans for Nigel...'

what a breath of fresh air he is...buying a turkey for Christmas indeed

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 23:47 | 3720490 i-dog
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Nigel is controlled opposition ... and 'They' are very happy indeed with his performances!

He, like Ron Paul, is exposing the truth about what needs to be done and then, by not voting for either of them in even a meaningful minority, "the people" are giving IMPLIED CONSENT for the march to the NWO central planning tyranny to continue.

It's all a part of 'Them' demonstrating that they have the public's consent for what they are doing ... and that French twerp's question to Farage exactly highlights this point.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 02:40 | 3720653 dunce
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The question about who is paying him was actually an effort to insult Farage by implying disloyalty by biting the hand that feeds him and claiming that he is morally superior to Farage because he votes and talks to his employers tune. Selling out in his world is the honorable thing to do.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 21:41 | 3720291 FreedomGuy
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The leftist answer to global warming is simplistic in that they say we/mankind put too much carbon into the air so we must undo what we have done. When economies do not do as they wish the problem always boils down to too much freedom and people not doing what you want them to do. That is never the answer to statist interventions that fail or have unintended consequences. The answer is never to undo their interventions or control. In fact, they usually argue for yet more intervention, control and uniformity. This becomes political and economic theology or even alchemy. They swear they can eventually turn economic lead into gold with enough faith (plus taxes and bureaucracy).

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 23:08 | 3720441 ISEEIT
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It's truly global. Some of us really do perceive an awakening awareness. I can't be certain that I do? I can attest however that I in many moments succumb to a status of awareness which causes me to feel distant to most, but frighteningly intimate with an increasing few.

Crazy?

Many would say yes. I'm willing to agree to the possibility, just waiting for some really credible..Plausible debate. Real time actual live open discussions. Communities even??Right? How 'revolutionary' would that be?

The what so many us thought at one time was America is in fact now something else. A milestone, something exceptionally significant has already occurred. A 'transformation' has been made manifest and sanity without sacrifice is now a dream left not to reoccur.

Peace-:)

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:59 | 3721495 TPTB_r_TBTF
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The reason you feel that way is because an alien intruder has taken over your body.

 

During those moments of melancholy, your old self is fighting its way back to reality.  But alas, ... the intruder is fully in control of you.  Relax and enjoy the ride.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 21:43 | 3720298 Kirk2NCC1701
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Still waiting for prophet Farage's last prophecy, that...

"Mark my words - and you heard it here first -- Slovenia's banks are next to fall!"

Tick, tock, tick, tock...

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 21:47 | 3720313 francis_sawyer
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r u sure it wasn't fonestar who predicted that?

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 23:00 | 3720428 Promethus
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Tick, tick, tick, tick. Don't worry the Germans have ways of making you tock.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 13:03 | 3721510 TPTB_r_TBTF
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.

 

German Chancellor Angela Merkel has now become a de facto Trustee of the continent. Her fingerprints are all over everything– restructuring agreements, bailout plans, the bank account theft in Cyprus, etc.

 The Germans are willing to solve all of Europe's problems;

however, a Political Union under their control is the prerequisite.

 

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 21:45 | 3720304 HowardBeale
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"And the sooner I get the chance to be the turkey that votes for Christmas, I will do so."

~Nigel Farage

 

"Please accept my resignation. I don't want to belong to any club that would have me as a member."

~Groucho Marx

 

Not really applicable, as they don't want Nigel and he well understands they shouldn't have a club, but it reminded me nonetheless...

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 22:07 | 3720362 Hindsight2020
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That smug bastard thought he had Nigel pinned with that question and Farage blasted that fat bastard with an example he could understand.  Hopefully its meaning translated correctly if he was even paying attention at that point.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 23:25 | 3720471 post turtle saver
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that reference to a turkey voting for Christmas at the end was political brilliance and utterly destroyed the guy trying to paint him as being a hypocrite... full circle reference to the British MP Teresa Gorman's quote that "If the House of Commons voted for Maastricht it would be like 651 turkeys voting for Christmas." - nicely done, Mr. Farage, well played

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 21:55 | 3720341 Decimus Lunius ...
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When Daul asked about who signed Nigel's paycheck, he was essentially saying "you serve your bureaucracy first and address the considerations of the people second."  It's not an easy road to publicly criticize the sycophantic bureaucracies in the U.S where we have a major party that at least pretends to believe in limited government, but doing it on the continent....Jesus.  I see the American left's seething hatred of the Tea Party, but I imagine that is a mere tiff in comparison.  

Unfortunately for Nigel and the rest of Europe, history is against them.  Throughout history, all of it, statists and the bureaucracies that do their leeching always, I mean always, double-down in the face of the crisis.  Arbitrary power will act arbitrarily.  Yes, I'm aware that Estonia essentially fired half its public workforce, but I live in America and I'd be lucky if 1 in 10 people have ever heard of it.   

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 02:25 | 3720644 Totentänzerlied
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Eesti poiss (crazy Finno-Ugric languages)

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 22:09 | 3720361 fukidontknow
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We're only making plans for Nigel 
We only want what's best for him 
We're only making plans for Nigel 
Nigel just needs this helping hand 
And if young Nigel says he's happy 
He must be happy 
He must be happy in his work 
We're only making plans for Nigel 
He has his future in a British steel 
We're only making plans for Nigel 
Nigel's whole future is as good as sealed 
And if young Nigel says he's happy 
He must be happy 
He must be happy in his work 
Nigel is not outspoken 
But he likes to speak 
And loves to be spoken to 
Nigel is happy in his work 
We're only making plans for Nigel -XTC

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwO4U2vmnmg

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 00:09 | 3720532 Freddie
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I was quite a fan but Partridge was a bit of a Labour Party wanker. Nigel was a Colin Moulding song.

Here is one where Colin nails the military wanting endless wars. Is that Weirdie Beardie Branson at 1:05? I think it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpA5IBHwLEk

Partridge did not get on well with Todd who yelled at him a lot during Skylarking.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 22:09 | 3720363 Mark_BC
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Nigel's a good orator but a bit arrogant and misinformed about certain things. Sure, the Euro project is a disaster. But his constant jabbering against alternative energy and AGW reveals that he doesn't do much homework before mouthing off. Mr. Farage, have you seen a chart of UK energy "production" lately? (and overall European oil production as well) Would you care to hazard a guess as to how that impacts the economic situation?

Here you go:

http://www.theoildrum.com/node/10029

http://mazamascience.com/OilExport/index.html

It's now basically a third of what it was in 2000.

He thinks he's going to be able to solve the unemployment problem by breaking up the Euro and deregulating everything, does he? Just because Ludwig von Mises said so a hundred years ago? Well the structural problems with our economies go much much deeper than Nigel understands, and they are merely the canary in the coal mine for what's happening to the whole world, what's coming for all of us.

Just because Keynesian Economics doesn't work doesn't mean Austrian Economics does.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 22:50 | 3720412 Savyindallas
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Austrian economics is a theory-like all others. None are perfect -they all work better under ideal, utopian circumstances- Communisim would work if everyone put the interests of the group above their indivudual self interest  -Christianity would work if we all adhered to the Golden Rule and the Sermon on the Mount. That being said-Austrian economics, a a model, is far better than what we have in Europe. If it were the base model, with some degree of fluidity and flexibility, it would work far better than what we have. All economic models, political ideologies and  and "isms" are utopian. All sytem have to have flexibility. Only a totalitarian system will be possible when the populace is morally corrupted.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 03:24 | 3720669 TWSceptic
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"Just because Keynesian Economics doesn't work doesn't mean Austrian Economics does."

 

Keynesian economics is like witchcraft, of course it doesn't work. The Austrian School just describes reality, it's why Austrian School economists are able to predict future events, because they understand what is going on. The Austrian School isn't a theory of 'how to plan the economy', it mainly explains why the economy doesn't need to be planned in the first place.

As the above commenter explained, there is no perfect solution. Humans aren't infallible. But we do know that central planning is not the answer and creates more problems than it claims to solve.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:17 | 3724070 Mark_BC
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No, the Austrian School does not describe reality. It describes a simplistic story that certain theorists have devised which encapsulates their beliefs about how the economy works -- but those theorists have not a clue how energy and resources move through the economy from the natural world to effect "production" (Peter Schiff actually suggests that nets can produce fish!)

Sure, there is no perfect solution, I won't argue against that. But Austrian Economics ain't anywhere close to it. The thing is, it's easy to criticize a failed system, but much more difficult to propose an alternative that actually works outside of the realm of Mr. von Mises' textbooks.

Free markets don't work.

 

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 22:17 | 3720372 otto skorzeny
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where's fonz to bag on Simon tonight? I don't know what is wrong with this piece- it's very good.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 22:47 | 3720407 francis_sawyer
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<I’ve landed this morning in Frankfurt>... STOPPED.READING.THERE.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 01:02 | 3720604 otto skorzeny
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gstaad is where all the fly bitchez iz.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 23:57 | 3720522 prains
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fonz and kito were meeting at applebee's for the two for one waitress special, sure hope one of them can pass for tiger

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 01:01 | 3720600 otto skorzeny
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Doc engali is gonna be pissed that kito is cock blocking him.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 22:34 | 3720392 Charles Wilson
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It's great to listen to Farage.  We in America have let everyone else down.  Reagan could make a great speech but Thatcher had logic and rhetoric.  So does Farage.

What Farage does not understand, however, is that the EuroTrash sitting around him reading old East German Nudist magazines will sacrifice their spouses and their sons and their daughters to MolochState.

Death and Misery mean NOTHING to these "people".

So Farage makes points but it is a game played in an arena with no seats and no people.

The bodies, piled so high on the Altar of State Socialism in the previous century, were bulldozed into pits.

All to make room for more.

 

CW

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 08:41 | 3720915 HardAssets
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CW - Farage knows exactly who sits around him. He's not really talking to them . . . he's talking to us.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:27 | 3721379 Charles Wilson
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Yes, yes, I know.

Reagan talked to us also, with Logic and Rhetoric I might add.

Reagan, however, came up short.  So, BTW, did Thatcher.

There are three Pillars of Leftist thought:

Class

Party

Race

Until  someone smashes through that Iron Web of Deceit and does what Urukagina did 3000 years ago - "He stopped the Boatmen from seizing the boats...He stopped the tax collector from seizing the fields...", etc. - it's all for nought.

I mean, there are still Maoists running around who believe that Mao is a god!  There are people who still worship dead Caesars and the form of government that all of that entails!

Speak on, Nigel Farage, speak on!

Until, however, the State, in its modern form, is repudiated, the words mean little.

 

"It's easier to smell the incense than it is to have the religious experience."

- Alfred North Whitehead

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 22:34 | 3720393 whoopsing
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Simons a bit of a douche,but he has some good points. People watching can be very informative.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 00:00 | 3720524 prains
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3 years ans 38 weeks on ZH and you've yet to notice his message has moved to "suit the audience", hmmmmmm....simon ? le bon, is that you

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 00:26 | 3720562 August
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"Simons a bit of a douche,but he has some good points."

I almost hate to say it, but Simon is usually correct.

Still a douche though.

 

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 01:06 | 3720609 otto skorzeny
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not full douche-just a faint whiff of douche.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 01:04 | 3720606 otto skorzeny
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haters gonna hate.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 22:54 | 3720421 Cabreado
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Is this place (comments) reflecting the real greater problem, or am I just having fun typing...

"Simon Black" speaks the truth about Farage speaking truth, and the only place it all goes is into the neverland,

as if truth is an overrated inconvenience?

Watch in real time how We drive our own demise.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 22:56 | 3720423 Fuku Ben
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UKIP typically provides good entertainment and cuts through the bureaucratic bullshit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYzX3YZoMrs

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 23:07 | 3720440 ak_khanna
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Illusion of Democracy today.

People sponsored by the rich, make false promises to the masses to get elected. Distribute national wealth amongst themselves and their sponsors (Industrialists) and when that is not enough borrow money from rest of the world and continue the distribution process. The borrowed money has to be paid back by taxing the masses keeping in mind that tax rules are made such that the politicians and their sponsors pay minimum or no taxes.

End of political tenure, rinse and repeat till the whole system breaks down and the world wealth is cornered by a miniscule of the population.

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article35345.html

www.letstalkmoney2012.in

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 23:28 | 3720476 Atomizer
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Two scenario Collective Action Problems:

 

  • The controlling interest groups don’t foresee a mass selloff due to lack of trust. Estates can be purchased for pennies on the dollar.
  • Other parties who endorse complete surveillance scheduled for its peasant GDP output; will find that being GPS/Social Media traced will endanger their own lives.   
Thu, 07/04/2013 - 00:09 | 3720533 bonin006
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The real problem with Europe is they took over USSR style central planning, but probably in an even more ridiculous manner than the Soviets. Portugal more efficient at fishing and orange growing than their neighbors? Burn half their boats and smash the oranges!

http://www.caseyresearch.com/cdd/marx-madness

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 07:19 | 3720807 lakecity55
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You mean like the central planning here in USSA?

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:50 | 3721458 bonin006
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We are on the same path, just not quite as far along yet.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 00:19 | 3720554 DaveA
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Nigel Farage does give good speeches, but for all the power and influence vested in the European Parliament, he might as well be posting on 4chan.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 02:58 | 3720660 Wile-E-Coyote
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Nigel is gaining momentum in the UK, it is likely his party UKIP will split the Tory vote at the next election. I do worry though it was reported recently that the banks have been sniffing around him offering support, and we all know what that means.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 06:30 | 3720766 Ghordius
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"the banks have been sniffing around him offering support" - well, he is a Fellow of the London City Corporation - this does mean that the banks there think he is a jolly good chap, by Gog and Magog

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 16:12 | 3721942 Metal Minded
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Mr Farage will indeed be funded by the UK crown, aristocracy, and big wealth, if he hasn't been already. Behind his populist rhetoric, he is a very ambitious Fascist. He is furthering his political career by blaming the Tories for reckless behavior, upsetting the status quo, causing threats to power and wealth, thus scaring the said UK Ownership. In his populist rhetoric, Mr Farage is speaking in code, telling TPTB that he will do what's necessary to keep the rabble in line. He is a 21st Century repackaging of Maggie Thatcher. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 01:02 | 3720602 q99x2
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Smart people don't need excessive money and power their minds afford them a luxurious existence beyond that of kings and queens.

Farage is great. The turkey that voted for Christmas.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 01:06 | 3720605 Rusty Shorts
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"We have the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch.
.. my liege.

 Consult the Book of Armaments!

 Armaments, Chapter Two, Verses Nine to Twenty-One.

BROTHER: "And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high,
saying, ´Oh, Lord, bless this thy hand grenade that with it thou
mayest blow thy enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy.´ And the Lord
did grin, and people did feast upon the lambs, and sloths, and
carp, and anchovies, and orangutans, and breakfast cereals, and
fruit bats, and large --"

..And the Lord spake, saying, ´First shalt thou take out
the Holy Pin. Then, shalt thou count to three, no more, no less.
Three shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the
counting shalt be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either
count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is
right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be
reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thou foe, who being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.´"
- Amen

 

one...two...five

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 01:25 | 3720623 dondonsurvelo
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Germany is not "healthy" and will look like the southern Europe in the not too distant future.  China and the emerging markets are not buying German stuff and Germany's economy depends on exports.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 01:54 | 3720629 MontgomeryScott
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Sometimes, I stack my empty bottles next to each other, and lament that I have killed nine soldiers, or have actually inbibed as much as to have me arrested. In retrospect, I recall that I actually bought a 12-pack, and have three left (along with the leftovers of last night's festivities), and want to pat myself on the back for surviving this far. Not only do I have MOAR, but have MOAR in RESERVE!

 

Nigel sort of reminnds me of the way I feel, 'sometimes'.

They dare him to a 'drinking contest', and since he has already been drinking (and is assured that he can take MOAR), he says, HELL, YEAH!'. He has more to go, and MOAR in reserve...

Bunch of fucking CHILDREN...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzBQ4OKcNNU

 

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 02:42 | 3720654 The Abstraction...
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Nigel is the Lion of damp squids. His party's manifesto reads, 'Leave Europe, double defence spending. The End.' He takes dinner with the Murdochs. Really if there is a true voice in Europe right now, it belongs to Marine Le Pen, as endorsed by the late Bob Chapman himself.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 06:53 | 3720780 reload
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She will be silenced.

I think moves are affoot to prosecute he for `inciting racial hatred` so they have begun taking away her diplomatic immunity.

Bound to enrage her supporters further.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 07:17 | 3720805 lakecity55
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Nigel and Marine discovered in murder-suicide.

(with their hands tied behind their backs).

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 07:47 | 3720837 Escapedgoat
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What you mean to say is:.................. they were suicided

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 07:32 | 3720823 HoaX
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I was with you up until you had to drag that crypto-fascist Le Pen into it.

 

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 08:09 | 3720864 The Abstraction...
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How many parties are not crytpfascist?

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 02:53 | 3720657 Wile-E-Coyote
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Haaa haaa did you see Borroso take his head phones off. Not listening, not listening!!

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 02:58 | 3720661 the tower
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I think Mr.Farage missed the part where Germany is paying for language courses and job training + 3 months paid apprenticeships + free healthcare + tax breaks for companies to get southern europeans to work in Germany.

One of the reasons is not only to help southern Europeans to find work, but also to keep them from leaving Europe altogether, which would be a massive brain drain. Something Farage didn't think of I guess...

 

 

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 11:31 | 3721244 the tower
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You can down vote me, but the German system works.

They don't have millions of welfare recipients like the UK, where whole generations have been living off benefits.

Apprenticeships provide valuable on-the-job training, much better than going to University and ending up filling isles in the local supermarket.

Germany has thousands upon thousands of small - often family run - businesses that produce, produce, produce. Again, UK? NOTHING!

Farage needs to start looking at his beloved UK and start slamming that armpit of a country.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 03:17 | 3720671 Ghordius
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Farage slams the setting up of the Europen Alliance for Apprenticeship - as such a model that actually works very well, in Germany and other countries. A pity, imho. He also asks for the break up of the "Social Market Model" - the most German model of all, and one that is seldom attacked

Funny talk about "the EU as an empire" - which is quite strange, from Farage himself. Of course the word "empire" is understood differently, depending from the history of the country where people come from. the Holy Roman Empire, for example, was not into colonialism, the British very much so

Follows a very strange discussion about how money was used in Croatia's accession politics... 

in the article, "European policy to deal with the jobs crisis is quite simple: print more money" - seriously? usually the criticism against the EUR is that it's paired with "Austerity", or, better, with plans to balance all budgets

then "The livelihoods of people from Portugal to Estonia, Ireland to Bulgaria (whose ‘lev’ is pegged to the euro), has been forcibly outsourced to a tiny elite here in Frankfurt, and their bureaucratic minions" - Interesting: why is the lev pegged to the EUR? Author does not go into it...


"The euro idea was a failure from the start. Even former German Chancellor Helmut Kohl, one of the chief architects of the monetary union, admitted earlier this year that he acted like a ‘dictator’ in order to push the euro through, knowing that it wouldn’t pass otherwise." Kohl one of the chief architects? I remember him as the chief architect of the Re-Unification of Germany, and as the chief architect of the German monetary union between West-Mark and Ost-Mark. Of course, after doing a monetary union himself, he had little criticism he could give to the EUR, then, but this is a far cry from being one of the chief architects of the EUR

criticism of the EUR is such a badly handled affair, full of huff and puff. Farage himself is not a citizen of a country using it - the UK uses the GBP for which Carney will soon take charge. and his criticism is vague, of the kind of moaning against "central control" - without ever explaining why the EUR would be such a "bad idea"

the thing is functioning. as designed. in an expected scenario of currency wars. where the EUR is sitting on the sidelines, and the battle is mainly between the BRICs and the USD hegemony

Farage, Simon, if you really want to get rid of it you would have to engage in a serious, honest discussion of what the options would be, and what would happen if 17 national currencies would resurface

which would most probably be either a new, third version of the currency grid (i.e. no change) or a great devaluation battle, to the greater glory of the big currencies, who then would/could devaluate even further

say that this is what you want, and let the people(s) think about your proposal. and see what they would say to that

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 06:53 | 3720778 Max Damage
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Get rid of it? We never fuckin wanted it. We got LIED to. We had broken promises and lies over the new treaties. We were promised a vote on major changes and never got one.

So when you say we should engage in serious and honest discussion you need to take your head out of your arsehole and accept the electorate in the UK were lied to and never voted for this monster. They voted for a common market and that is it. 

Ireland were forced to vote again, and again, and again, until they said yes

 

The EU is a socialist dictatorship with NO mandate from the people. where the fuck is our army to do an Eygypt on your lieing bastard arses

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 07:12 | 3720794 Ghordius
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groan... who "lied" to you? continentals? or your own political class? who has the power to "set the UK free from that monster that is the EU"? your parliament. who has the power of calling next week for a referendum on it? Your PM Mr. Cameron

who called for a referendum - as per constitution - for the first Irish? The Irish Government. who called a second one? the same. care to explain why the Irish voted once no and once yes? it's nevertheless their own political business

your "the EU is a socialist dictatorship with NO mandate from the people" is a bit weak, the EU is a "club" of nations - if you want your nation out of it you have to convince your nation to exit. and good riddance if you succed

we are not stopping you - in fact, many of us did vote to keep the UK out of this business, before 1975

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 07:37 | 3720806 i-dog
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Even when the UK joined the EU in 1973, the referendum in 1975 (2 years after joining!!) only had 42.9% of the voting population supporting it.

Of the 10 countries joining in 2004, one (Cyprus) had no referendum, two (Slovenia and Lithuania) had a [bare] majority of the voting population supporting their referendums, while the other 8 were dragged in with only 38-48% support of the voting population. Norway has flatly rejected joining in 2 referendums so far (so, no doubt, the central power will try a third time).

Mandate? ... Sham-mandate!

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 02:24 | 3721344 Ghordius
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my central argument is that it's a club of nations - but it's up to the single nations to make up their minds, i.e. it's their national matter how their constitutional frameworks has to work, and this entails having referenda or not

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Thu, 07/04/2013 - 07:11 | 3720795 smacker
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There's plenty of reasons which make the Euro a bad idea from Day One.

We have seen endless debates about unsustainable sovereign debt right across EuroZoneLand which is blowing Europe apart and creating a financial disaster with its taxpayer bail-outs, and now bail-ins. Every one of the bankrupt ClubMed countries could have improved its competitiveness but they cannot do this when they're locked into a single currency. They could also improve their national circumstances by setting about improving their private and public sectors and removing socialist corruption. But these need to be decisions they take with public support, not by the crats in Brussels.

The future is for sovereign nations with their own currencies which compete freely.

It then becomes a national choice of working to be better (as in Germany's case) or continuing along the road of corruption, incompetence and poverty. There is no place for Brussels in any of this.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:30 | 3721393 Ghordius
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"The future is for sovereign nations with their own currencies which compete freely"

The present is one of currency wars - where small currencies can be shaken like rats by a terrier. In fact, judging from the EURUSD FX pair, the EUR should be even bigger. Currency size/depth is important during currency turmoils - and the reason why people stack gold, for example (stock vs flow ratio)

I'd like to have a deeper conversation about that but I have to ask you first if you know something about the history of the currency grids, and their reasons, otherwise I have to constantly guess where to start

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 07:24 | 3720812 Escapedgoat
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Ghordius, you do seem to be an apologist of the Euro, even your avatar shows. Now the problem with thew euro is that it is an IOU of great proportions it has nice pictures and that is about it all, it does not represent the real economy at all.

Countries like the  Germany of today are able to purchase the cheap Politicians like the Greeks. Most of them are the offspring of Collobatators of the Germans in the  WWII (Pikramenos, Rallis, Papakonstandinou). to name but a few, I could go on and on. Most of that lot were employed by Siemens ....ho ho.

The Bulgarians, are known as the Prussians of the Balkans, the reason why they pegged their currency to the euro, that is orders from Berlin.

The Croatians are long time German allies and in the Yugoslav wars the German foreign minister let out that it was the 1st war that they won aftert 1945. The sting in the tail is that, you might be working for OTHER MASTERS. The resentment of the Southern Europeans is gathering strength.

Greeks are especially pissed off. At the moment they are figuring how to respond without resorting to CIVIL WAR, like last time. The Italians know full well that the euro is used against their intersts and their Industry suffered as a result. You can see a lot more german cars than the cheaper Italian ones. You believe that Germany as the Head, leader call it what you like is going to win this time around..............

Well I am very sorry but now that the people have a better picture of what is to come, the Nothern Europeans (German sphere of influence mostly) better start chewing and tasting BMW, VW and Mercendes as the south european products are going to be VERY EXPENSIVE (real tomatoes, cucumbers and all the other fruit Mediterranian origin). Sorry for the long scree!!!!

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:22 | 3721366 Ghordius
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I like my avatar, it's easily recognizable, quite unique here in ZH, and indeed I'm very interested to know why some people have this aversion to the EUR. Add a propensity to play the devil's advocate and to defend the "underdog" and you have me

take your argument and imagine a world without fiat, where all trades of products and services have to be settled immediately - let's say in gold, or something similar but definitely not fiat money

does your argument then still stand?

and now take the same argument regarding Bulgarians, etc. and imagine it would be Uncle Sam or whatever is your fancy instead of "ze Germans". still bad?

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 10:07 | 3721062 falak pema
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Ghordius, I'm just knit picking but : ...the Holy Roman Empire, for example, was not into colonialism,...

requires a response : The Holy Roman Empire was into colonialism on at least two occasions :

1° Catholic Teutonic knights (Livonian invasion of Russian lands leading to battle of Ice /Lake Peipus; 1242 and birth of Orthodox Russia under Alexander Nevsky. A landmark in Russian history.

2° THe Guelph /Ghibelline civil war in Italy between Emperor and Pope,  Hohenstaufen period 1100- 1250), was a proxy war to colonise Italy by German Holy Roman Emperors, Frederick I & II mainly. Admittedly in the context of Papal revolt (Dictatus Papae/Canossa/Proclamation of theocracy/Excommunication and Holy Crusade smoke and mirrors).

But, having said that, on the whole even if Italy paid a huge price being eviscerated by 6 hundred years of turmoil (German/French/Spanish pretentions) Frederick II was very clear anti colonialist in his refusal to fight Crusades in Holy Land. Unfortunately he lost and French crusader king(s) took over his mantle as colonial kings.


Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:25 | 3721375 Ghordius
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yes, you are indeed knit picking, and I like it. well, ok, in 1'000 years two cases of colonialism - and yes, all the crusades

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 03:29 | 3720679 BurningBetty
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Why hide it, or even ignore it. Frau Merkel is the economic version of Hitler. Instaed of using military force they are invading and taking over countries through economic power. Brilliant plan.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 06:04 | 3720750 Mr. Hudson
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Merkel is the muscle for the German Central Bank, which is under the thumb of the London Bank. She's just a puppet doing what she is told to do.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 04:53 | 3720713 pnfteixeira
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Watch VIX chart, we have now a golden cross. The last golden cross in the VIX was in August 2011 and the SPX lost 200 points and DAX 2000. New leg down is coming?

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 04:56 | 3720715 supermaxedout
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Its good to spend a few billion new printed Euros in such a way. At least there is hope that the one or other young adulkt in Southern Europe is having a perspective for his life.

There were too many Trillions printed to save the corrupt system of the USSA. This is going to destroy the Dollar and with it the illusions of the US population. When thinking about it its a good thing. One can not get rid off his illusions early enough. The earlier the better even it is very hard to take.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 06:44 | 3720774 Max Damage
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The UK electorate need to get UKIP in power. Sadly though the left wing have flooded us with so many immigrants, and created such massive welfare dependancy that the numbers are stacked against UKIP. The west is doomed because the left wing have been allowed to go so fuckin far, by weak electorates, and weak middle classes.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 07:14 | 3720800 lakecity55
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Hey, they use the same plan over here with Mexicans.

See a similar scheme at work?

4 legs good, 2 legs bad.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 09:51 | 3721024 They trynna cat...
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The left perpetually demands "more"--more welfare, more bailouts, more third world immigration, more taxes, more promotion of homosexuality--without ever saying how much "more" will finally be "enough."

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 06:59 | 3720783 fukidontknow
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We're only making plans for Nigel 
We only want what's best for him 
We're only making plans for Nigel 
Nigel just needs this helping hand 
And if young Nigel says he's happy 
He must be happy 
He must be happy in his work 
We're only making plans for Nigel 
He has his future in a British steel 
We're only making plans for Nigel 
Nigel's whole future is as good as sealed 
And if young Nigel says he's happy 
He must be happy 
He must be happy in his work 
Nigel is not outspoken 
But he likes to speak 
And loves to be spoken to 
Nigel is happy in his work 
We're only making plans for Nigel -XTC

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwO4U2vmnmg

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 08:02 | 3720793 falak pema
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OT but relevant.

YEsterday or day before there was a Euro meeting where Hollande and Merkel clashed about the upcoming "big transatlantic free market transaction" now being discussed on agenda to be headed by Barroso for EU. 

Hollande said : In the wake of this Prism scandal we should push back the schedule to discuss AMerican spying of EU institutions, clear the air with Obama admin, before launching this marathon discussion. This US spy network is very troubling to our national audiences and rightly so.

Merkel and Barroso both disagreed and felt keeping the agenda on track was very important.

A last minute compromise was decided where a restricted EU committee would meet US counterparts and nail down this spy issue, clarifying grey areas. 

Now it turns out according to  Le Monde that :

1° The French equivalent of NSA has a big brother PRISM system that tracks ALL electromagnetic impulses (emails, MSMs twits etc. on the NET),  for each and every person emitting or receiving in France; aka we are ALL presumed potential terrorists.

The extent of this french network totally unchecked and unregulated by political overseers, in contradiction with French COnstitution and SPECIFIC national laws concerning INFORMATION, computerised access and PRIVACY, is only superceded in size and scope by the US and UK systems; aka France is world no 3 in the pecking order of ILLEGAL spy Internet peepholing.

2° On the issue of Snowden's eventual asylum in France as a harassed person seeking safe haven the French Interieur Minister said : It was NOT   good idea as Uncle Sam is a democratic nation, and Snowden a law breaker.

Game OVer in France. In the wake of the Morales flight initial refusal and subsequent embarrased apology, to "save face" with local left leaning voters, France is showing its true colours under this admin.

Now, if you put two and two together you can add up to the conclusion that Mr Hollande whatever he says, is part of the US network, hook line and sinker! When push comes to shove under USA/EU pressure.

http://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2013/07/04/revelations-sur-le-big-...

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 07:23 | 3720809 lakecity55
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Simon, swathed in black trench coat and shades, has done a good thing with promoting Nigel.

I have tracked him thru the Sudan, Dubai, and Nairobi.

He does not often drink beer, but when he does, he drinks Indio.

Stay thirsty, my friends.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 08:34 | 3720899 jmcadg
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Damn that smug bastard Barroso, laughing away knowing he is raping the EU.

Karma is a wonderful thing.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 09:45 | 3721014 GoinFawr
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erg.

dva pivo tamno molim

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 11:06 | 3721179 Kirk2NCC1701
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Croatia, welcome to EU hell, pichka ti materna!

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 09:48 | 3721019 They trynna cat...
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"How can I make it right? Shall I lick your balls?"

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 09:57 | 3721028 Aurora Ex Machina
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For those paying attention (from a post earlier this week):

French far-right leader Marine Le Pen has been stripped of her European Parliament immunity[1] and may now face charges of racism over comments she made comparing Muslims praying on streets to Nazi occupation during World War II.

Parliamentarians voted on Tuesday to ratify the decision, as recommended by a judicial committee, so that Le Pen, who leads the French National Front party, could defend herself against a charge of inciting racial hatred brought by French prosecutors in 2011.

Le Pen, who was present for the vote, said she stood behind her comments and looked forward to defending them in front of a judge. [Aljazeera 2nd July]

Ironically, this will probably play well to her core constituents, and will have plenty of scope for PR. (She needs to dye those roots though, bottle blonde spotted!).

Farage must have seriously squeaky clean underpants, or he's confident that he's got enough schwing to avoid any mud. (Personally, I expect that he's considered much more tractable and easier to deal with than the EDL / BNP etc, and it's no secret some of the more fringe Tory back-benchers share his views on Europe).

Or, legally speaking, he can say what he likes as long as he's a MEP, so although it's frowned upon, he's working well within his legal rights. Everyone knows this and expects his amusing rants.

 

What I found most interesting is that the EU News site hasn't updated its logs on such cases since mid-2012. If you're going to run a bureaucracy, it'd be nice if you actually did it.

 

[1]Article 9
Members of the European Parliament shall not be subject to any form of inquiry, detention or legal proceedings in respect of opinions expressed or votes cast by them in the performance of their duties.
'Article 10
During the sessions of the European Parliament its Members shall enjoy:
(a) in the territory of their own State, the immunities accorded to members of their parliament;
(b)  in the territory of any other Member State, immunity from any measure of detention and from legal proceedings.
Immunity shall likewise apply to Members while they are travelling to and from the place of meeting of the European Parliament.
Immunity cannot be claimed when a Member is found in the act of committing an offence and shall not prevent the European Parliament from exercising its right to waive the immunity of one of its Members.’ [source- warning PDF]

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:38 | 3721415 monopoly
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Why can't we have one, just one like Mr. Farage in our Congress. We have 535 mostly useless members, in both the house and Senate. All I am asking is for one real liberator, one who will speak the truth and believes in our Constitution, one who does not care about personal gain and more wealth for themselves and one who puts his country and people first. Just one who believes in Liberty and Freedom for the people. 

JUST..... ONE....sigh.

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