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July 4th - A Celebration Or A Memorial Service

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Submitted by Simon Black via Sovereign Man blog,

Amid all the barbecues and fireworks today in the Land of the Free, it may be worth a short pause to remember the words of Thomas Jefferson some 237-years ago:

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

 

“That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,”

 

“That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”

Powerful stuff.

In one of the most eloquent treatises in history, Jefferson lays out that human beings are born free. And that we create governments in order to stay free.

Further, whenever governments become destructive to this effort, human beings have a right to dissolve the government and create a new one.

Jefferson then lays out an entire laundry list of grievances against the British King that have compelled the colonists to throw off the chains of tyranny and form a new government. This “long train of abuses” includes:

  • He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.
  • He has obstructed the Administration of Justice
  • He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny
  • For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments

As the modern, dysfunctional version of the US government has become little better than the court of King George III, one might make the exact same arguments today.

  • They have employed a multitude of offices, from the National Security Agency to the US Postal Service, to illegally spy on their citizens.
  • They have used the power and intimidation of tax authorities to bully political opposition groups.
  • They have authorized the military detention and drone assassination of their own citizens.
  • They have indebted future generations who will not be born for decades, and squandered the nations wealth on fraud, waste, and foreign military folly.
  • They have destroyed the primary function of the free market by awarding supreme monetary authority to a tiny banking elite.
  • They have passed tomes of new laws and regulations which criminalize everything from collecting rainwater to childhood lemonade stands.

I’m sure you would have a several more to add to this list. And I’d be curious to hear from you about it.

By Jefferson’s own standard, it seems rather clear that the government – most governments – have become destructive against their higher purpose: to safeguard the people’s liberty.

Today shouldn’t be a celebration... it should be a memorial service. Or at least a time to reflect heavily – when will enough finally be enough? When will it be time to act?

 

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Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:44 | 3721443 Catullus
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Fuck off with the "no whining". It's the perfect way to end conversation that you make a bullshit statement.

Yeah. Look at California. They voted for Prop 8 and the state ignored it. Someone sued. The law was overturned. And the Supreme Court threw out an appeal because only a group of voters would defend the law, not the attorney general. Your vote matters. Ha

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 16:19 | 3721955 post turtle saver
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ah, the classic whiner/loser combo makes their presence known... a bunch of upvotes for a fucking coward and his lame ass temper tamptrum... I bet your momma's proud - climb back in your fucking hole

just gotta have it all fixed right now, dontcha? fixing apathy and corruption is like losing weight, you goddamned jackass... it took time to get there, it's gonna take time to get it off... but ah hell no, gotta waste yours and everyone elses's time whining and complaining some more

look in a mirror, you're the problem - fix it

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 23:51 | 3722762 AnAverageBear
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What? Are you 12?

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:48 | 3721454 i-dog
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Only local elections - to appoint representatives to manage local issues of a like-minded local community - are relevant. Anything wider in scope is simply empire building and is no longer relevant in this highly interconnected 21st century.

 

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:57 | 3721489 Vooter
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LOL...too late!

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:14 | 3721338 Jay
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When I was a kid, we had to memorize the Declaration of Independence. Today, the Declaration of Independence isn't even taught in most public schools.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 13:38 | 3721572 Whoa Dammit
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Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:15 | 3721340 Pairadimes
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We will still be yammering about this right up until the shooting starts.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:16 | 3721343 ebworthen
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What in the Hell are we doing in Afghanistan again?

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 13:29 | 3721579 Whoa Dammit
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Drugs.

In Kabuli fields the poppies grow...

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:17 | 3721347 goldenbuddha454
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July, 4th 1776 fast foreward to today "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss" but with a title as President instead of King.  NSA General Warrants are the same as used by the British pre-1776. 

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:21 | 3721359 Talcott
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There will be a tipping point....probably when the sadistic oligarchical plutocrats or one of their twit wits fucks up, like they did with Morales.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:23 | 3721369 blindman
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powerful stuff indeed !

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:24 | 3721370 Catullus
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I'll tell you what it doesn't need to be -- another day where we suck someone's dick who's in the military or a veteran of an illegal war (all of them since 1945). Yeah, great, you joined the military because you wanted to get out of whatever shithole town you're from that had no opportunity. Or you wanted someone to pay for college. I'm not proud that you received Red State-approved welfare benefits. You're not protecting freedom nor have you ever. Sit down, shut up, and stop wearing that military shit in public. Oh, and get on the fucking plane like everyone else. You're not on "orders". You're a douche who wears his uniform to the airport. You don't need to wear it when you fly home to fuck your high school loser girlfriend.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:55 | 3721485 A82EBA
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maybe through our complacency TPTB grew up around us inflicting their will upon other nations in our name and on our dime and now we've got an ass-whoopin coming that only our military is capable of defending us against?

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:25 | 3721377 All Out Of Bubblegum
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Dostoyevsky on Jews in Russia

Notable writers, e.g. Joseph N. Frank, Stephen Cassady, David I. Goldstein, Gary Saul Morson, and Felix Dreizin, have offered various insights and unique suppositions regarding Dostoyevsky’s views on Jews and organized Jewry in Russia – specifically, that Dostoyevsky perceived Jewish ethnocentrism and Jewish influence to be directly threatening the Russian peasantry in the border regions. For example, in A Writer's Diary, Dostoyevsky wrote:

"Thus, Jewry is thriving precisely there where the people are still ignorant, or not free, or economically backward. It is there that Jewry has a champ libre. And instead of raising, by its influence, the level of education, instead of increasing knowledge, generating economic fitness in the native population—instead of this the Jew, wherever he has settled, has still more humiliated and debauched the people; there humaneness was still more debased and the educational level fell still lower; there inescapable, inhuman misery, and with it despair, spread still more disgustingly. Ask the native population in our border regions: What is propelling the Jew—and has been propelling him for centuries? You will receive a unanimous answer: mercilessness. He has been prompted so many centuries only by pitilessness to us, only by the thirst for our sweat and blood."

"And, in truth, the whole activity of the Jews in these border regions of ours consisted of rendering the native population as much as possible inescapably dependent on them, taking advantage of the local laws. They have always managed to be on friendly terms with those upon whom the people were dependent. Point to any other tribe from among Russian aliens which could rival the Jew by his dreadful influence in this connection! You will find no such tribe. In this respect the Jew preserves all his originality as compared with other Russian aliens, and of course, the reason therefore is that status of status of his, that spirit of which specifically breathes pitilessness for everything that is not Jew, with disrespect for any people and tribe, for every human creature who is not a Jew...."

Dostoyevsky has been noted as having expressed anti-Semitic sentiments. In the recent biography by Joseph Frank, The Mantle of the Prophet, Frank spent much time on A Writer's Diary — a regular column which Dostoyevsky wrote in the periodical The Citizen from 1873 to the year before his death in 1881. Frank notes that the Diary is "filled with politics, literary criticism, and pan-Slav diatribes about the virtues of the Russian Empire, [and] represents a major challenge to the Dostoyevsky fan, not least on account of its frequent expressions of antisemitism." Frank, in his foreword for the book Dostoevsky and the Jews, attempts to place Dostoyevsky as a product of his time. Frank notes that Dostoyevsky did make antisemitic remarks, but that Dostoyevsky's writing and stance by and large was one where Dostoyevsky held a great deal of guilt for his comments and positions that were antisemitic.[25] Steven Cassedy, for example, alleges in his book, Dostoevsky's Religion, that much of the depiction of Dostoyevsky’s views as anti-Semitic omits that Dostoyevsky expressed support for the equal rights of the Russian Jewish population, a position that was not widely supported in Russia at the time. Cassedy also notes that this criticism of Dostoyevsky also appears to deny his sincerity when he said that he was for equal rights for the Russian Jewish populace and the Serfs of his own country (since neither group at that point in history had equal rights). Cassidy again notes when Dostoyevsky stated that he did not hate Jewish people and was not an Anti-Semite. Even though Dostoyevsky spoke of the potential negative influence of Jewish people, Dostoyevsky advised Czar Alexander II to give them rights to positions of influence in Russian society, such as allowing them access to Professorships at Universities. According to Cassedy, labeling Dostoyevsky anti-Semitic does not take into consideration Dostoyevsky's expressed desire to peacefully reconcile Jews and Christians into a single universal brotherhood of all mankind.

http://www.thefullwiki.org/Fedor_Dostoevsky#Dostoyevsky_on_Jews_in_Russia

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 13:01 | 3721503 stiler
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The fact that Dostoezsky may have been anti-Semitic is kind of eclipsed by the jewish homeland of 1948. NeverthelessRussia remains largely so And they will fill up what is lacking in their sin with their invasion of Israel, as future prophecy soon to come to pass. The antisemitism of D, or Martin Luther is more due to a church teaching of replacement theology, whereby the jews are replaced  by the church. God has aplan for his people, the church is a special body of jew and gentile that will be raptured  out. Then the jews will take on a  more proament role. There is no brotherhood of man outside of the true church of believers in FYeshu

 

All men are createdvequal. This is the key to JsbDeclaration. They are created, throw outGod as creator and you can kiss it all goodbye. But man feels in the darkness for God without finding him. Only thru Jesus Christ and what he did on the cross can men find the Light. My two cents. HAPPY FOURTH,,

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:28 | 3721384 Mr. Hudson
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In one Southern state, they have a law called "The Bessie Stump Act", which outlaws sodomy with your cow, and is punishable by imprisonment. Unfortunately, no politician is brave enough to stand up against this law and have it thrown off the books.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:29 | 3721388 SimMaker
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The USA is done, put a fork in it.

 

Was a great run whlie it lasted, but they got too big for their boots after a quirk of geography kept them "out" of the real nasty bits of WWII. And they have been buzzing around in their bombers and tanks ever since. The US military buring 10s of thousands of barrels of gas a day........like a pissed off hornets nest with no one to fight, and producing nothing of value........and on top of that utter waste of money, you now have 50% living off the backs of the other.

 

USA is done, destroyed, by itself.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:48 | 3721444 Mr. Hudson
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There is one sliver of hope: A significant number of states uniting, and standing up to the Central government. Look at North Dakota. They have a state bank that has no ties to Wall Street. The State Bank of North Dakota told the Fed and Wall Street where to stick it back in 1919. Every state in the U.S. (except North Dakota) has to give their tax revenues to the Wall Street banks (where it is held in some cases for up to 6 months), and then borrow the same amount from the Wall Street banks with interest rates as high as 18%!!

Since the State Bank of North Dakota is not being held hostage by Wall Street, North Dakota is booming, while the rest of America is on the verge of total collapse. When Americans are starving and killing one another, and being sent to FEMA camps, North Dakota will survive what is coming. We should all move to North Dakota if we want to survive.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 13:00 | 3721498 SimMaker
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Somehting has to change.

 

I have always been proud to be an American. Even though I have lived overseas most of my life due to being a military brat. But now? I feel shame and anger.

 

No one will care that all the grain and rice sacks that fed the starving of the world had "USA" written on the side.......no one will come to aid America when she falls........America has so poisoned itself, betrayed itself, that it is truely loathed around the rest of the world....and it shouldnt be that way. God fucking Damnit.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 13:13 | 3721546 One And Only
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North Dakota:

White alone, percent, 2012 (a)

90.1%

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/38000.html

Detroit: Black or African American alone, percent, 2010 (a) 82.7%

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/26/2622000.html

North Dakota is racist.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 04:29 | 3722903 Spanky
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-1

Since the State Bank of North Dakota is not being held hostage by Wall Street, North Dakota is booming... -- Mr. Hudson

ND is booming because of an oil boom. Fracking shale. It will play out. Always does. Ever heard of Oil City? Thought not... it's just another ghost town now. Shale depletes quickly. If you move, I advise a moblie home.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:29 | 3721389 Salt
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It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning. - Henry Ford

The American people have had a gun to their head since income tax was established.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:47 | 3721450 One And Only
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Yup. A lot of people don't realize the income tax is relatively new to America. But it's old enough that it has become normal.

No one in this country remembers what it was like living without a federal income tax. Yet as a country we've existed longer without one than with one.

How nice would it be to not pay federal income tax?

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 23:58 | 3721395 AnAverageBear
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"whenever" is now.
"whenever" is today.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:33 | 3721403 Fuku Ben
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Countries around the world continue to school the divided and conquered United States of America in the power of the phrase "We the People"

Do not mourn your losses of freedom but reflect on your past mistakes and take hold of your future. If not for yourselves or your children then for the future of freedom on the planet.

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1002095_257683814356661_1970192331_n.jpg

http://www.policymic.com/articles/27094/protests-sweep-bulgaria-as-gover...

 

 

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:36 | 3721407 prains
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There's only a couple of candles left on the cake that is the Various States of Detroitification, blow them out a start over.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:44 | 3721410 One And Only
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It's kind of sad really.

Does anyone else feel like they break multiple laws everyday just living a normal life?

It's almost impossible not to break a law there are so many.

Now we have drones killing Americans, NSA spying on us, IRS attacking people who don't agree with Obama, Obama spending 100 mil on African vacations acting like a king, a complete government take over of the healthcare system, government infringing (or trying to) on our right to bear arms, etc etc etc

Such a disgrace what this country has become.

Next is the carbon tax. Where you are taxed every mile you drive and by how many hours your lights are on. Get ready for it you liberal freedom lovers.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:54 | 3721480 TrustWho
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We are a sad lot. I can not watch the coverage on TV of the Independence Day celebrations. After the Declaration of Independence was written, Washington gathered his troops and had the Declaration of Independence read for them to hear.

I wonder, across this entire nation through all the celebrations, is anyone reading and is anyone listening to these words that gave Washington's troops the vision to fight the good fight for us all for SEVEN more years?

The reason, I believe, the situation is so sad. The people today would call our founding father's choice stupid. Why would a rich man risk the good life under British rule for a struggle that will likely lead to their early traitorly death.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 13:21 | 3721563 el Gallinazo
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Are McCain and Lindsey Graham liberals?  The left - right bullshit theater is just a way of dividing sleeping Americans.  And whether you get a Cheney or an Obomba in the White House, they both do the exact same crap.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 23:39 | 3722695 New World Chaos
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There is a book about this:  Three Felonies Per Day.  The crimminalization of everything is deliberate.  Once they make everyone a crimminal, they can selectively destroy the honest people (since they can't be trusted). 

Here are the major tasks of the NSA:  Gain more funding, dig up retroactive charges against anyone they don't like, make grab lists for the FEMA camps, gather tips for insider trading, hunt down truth tellers, and blackmail anyone in a position of power.  Oh, and maybe accidentally detect one or two real-life scary brown terrorists.  But only so the narrative can be controlled in advance.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:37 | 3721414 koaj
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Jefferson was 33 years olf when the Declaration was written. Madison was 26...amazing

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:42 | 3721432 One And Only
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Rachel Jeantel (Trayvon's defense star witness) is 19 and can't read, not even a few words - 100% illiterate.

You see this more and more and more. This is what we have become as a society.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:54 | 3721479 Hengist
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She has convinced me to support Planned Parenthood.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 13:03 | 3721511 One And Only
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I used to be against government sponsored abortions. I didn't think my money should be used to abort other people's children.

Now I'm looking for ways to donate to planned parenthood. Possibly get an advertising program started in ghetto communities.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 13:28 | 3721587 Buckaroo Banzai
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So instead of fixing the society that failed the kid, your solution is to kill the kid in the womb?

That is depraved.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 13:23 | 3721571 francis_sawyer
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"Rachel Jeantel (Trayvon's defense star witness) is 19 and can't read, not even a few words - 100% illiterate."

~~~

Not even LOL or ZOMG?

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:39 | 3721419 TrustWho
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Is there any government in the world today who states their number 1 objective: to safeguard the people’s liberty.

The people who gave us a chance faced a decision to keep living the good life under British rule had to think or likely death with hope that God would provide them victory after a long difficult struggle. This is the choice Patrick Henry proposed to the Virginia assembly with the succint words: "Give me Liberty or Give me Death".

I have copied History channel's series on the Revolutionary War. Unlike President Bush sending poor young boys to do his directive to remove Sadaam Hussein, the leaders of the Revolution lead from the front. Washington's password for the Trenton raid/battle was: "Victory or Death"

Thank God our founding fathers did not have video games, TV and too much food.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:40 | 3721424 A Lunatic
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I am revolting.......

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 14:35 | 3721758 peter4805
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And you smell bad too.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:46 | 3721448 jon dough
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The Declaration of Independence, Thomas Paine and Your Freedom

http://galambos.com/

Among many other points in the lecture series, Galambos makes clear that he believes that it was Thomas Paine, not Thomas Jefferson, who wrote the Declaration of Independence.

Further, Galambos makes a case for Paine being the intellectual inspiration for the American revolutionists taking such a libertarian path.

YMMV

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:51 | 3721460 Hengist
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The problem is America is full of self centered assholes who only live to piss on their fellow man daily, they are miserable in themselves so they feeel that everyone else should be miserable, get rid of all the assholes and you will have your revolution.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 13:32 | 3721600 Buckaroo Banzai
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So what you are saying is that the USA is full of human beings?

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:51 | 3721463 Nobody
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"with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

The original wording had "Property" instead of "Pursuit of Happiness"

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 13:35 | 3721609 Buckaroo Banzai
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Yes, Jefferson really shouldn't have fucked with that. Life, Liberty, and Property are the three cornerstones of Freedom, as defined by John Locke. "Pursuit of Happiness"-- what the fuck is that?

Oh well.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:53 | 3721471 BadDog
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Here is an audio of NSA recent recruitment attempt at the University of Wisconsin.  These students have their number.  It's an audio about 12 minutes long, and if you havent't heard it, it would be well worth your time on this 4th.

http://www.activistpost.com/2013/07/students-destroy-nsa-recruiters-over...

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:53 | 3721475 trader1
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i know it's a repost, but didn't realize that we have a july 4th thread now:

237 years ago, a group of freedom fighters decided to say f--k you to a British king and build a new independent nation-state, which without the aid of the French, USA’s evolution as we know it, in all likelihood, wouldn’t exist.  As a consequence of the support that sealed American independence, the French monarchy went heavily into debt, which sowed the seeds for a harvest of another group of freedom fighters

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 13:04 | 3721513 trader1
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more food for thought:

 

“I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and constitutions, but laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. ... [W]ith the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times.”  - Thomas Jefferson

besides being slave-owners, how forward-thinking these founding fathers really were! one of the problems i see (and perhaps very wrongly) is that a number of americans, myself included, have resigned to the current state of politics.

i don't bother voting anymore, because i have very little skin the game (expat) and voting has become a choice between coke and pepsi vis a vis the demo-publican presidential candidates. the national media complex effectively polarizes people with the democrat / republican paradigm as well as reinforces this dualist, virtuous circle in the political system itself. when was the last time we saw a viable 3rd party candidate? maybe ross perot? (ron paul blew the opportunity by staying republican. he is a poor salesman as well as orator (questionably presidential), which are probably enough to assure a loss in the general election. though, he did have some novel ideas…)

lessons to be learned (and maybe applied?)  

i think it would be cool to see more credible minority parties form and challenge the demo-publican status quo. or, maybe the republicans and democrats should take a good look in the mirror and split themselves up (there are factions within each party anyways).

the European parliamentary model provides an interesting reference point, whereby the people assure their representation in government via the full spectrum of choice from right-wing, conservative, centrist, liberal, green, and left-wring parties. such a model might re-energize public participation/engagement in the political spectrum, as this creates real platforms for americans to express their core views on various policies.

these implications are nothing short of revolutionary for the existing US system, and congress would have to work a helluva lot harder to establish consensus in order to enact/rescind legislation. not that that they don’t work hard today, but it’s food for thought. 

 (btw, this is not a complaint or rant, but just a stream-of-consciousness, outside-in, observation/perspective designed to challenge fellow american and my own thinking)

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 13:07 | 3721531 A82EBA
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I thought the French didnt get involved til after it was pretty much a sure bet the Americans were going to win

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 13:39 | 3721620 Buckaroo Banzai
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No, the French deserve more credit than that. They did wait to make sure we were serious. The Battle of Saratoga convinced them that we meant business and were at least a force to be reckoned with.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battles_of_Saratoga

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 14:31 | 3721637 trader1
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many people think that, but there's another perspective

France began providing arms and ammunition as early as 1776 (the war started in 1775). In early 1777, months before Saratoga, the French sent American colonists 25,000 uniforms and pairs of boots, hundreds of cannons, and thousands of muskets -- all stuff that the colonists would've had a hard time surviving without, and all stuff they had no access to on their own. And that was just the tip of the iceberg: From supplies to advice to military reinforcements, France exercised all the fiscal restraint of a drunk businessman at a strip club when it came to funding the American war.

France provided a whopping 90 percent of the rebels' gunpowder. Let that sink in for a second. Without France, the entire American Revolution would have devolved into a bunch of dudes swinging their muskets as clubs within weeks.

Still, the most important French contribution to the revolution (or, if you're British, their ultimate dick move) was the least visible to Americans. As mentioned, the reason France pampered the Patriots was always selfish. They were out to weaken the British forces -- particularly their naval strength -- in order to take the fight to them, perhaps even conquer them. That's why, for much of the Revolutionary War, the British ships tasked with kicking America's ass had to survive 12 rounds with the French navy before they could even think of crossing the Atlantic. France gleefully fought the British, eventually teaming up with Spain, declaring a war, attacking from all sides, and evensetting up an invasion force. In those battles, America's independence was a fart in the desert.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:24 | 3724089 Analyse2
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Lafayette met George Washington on August 1, 1777 (he was then assigned to his staff with the title of Major General) and participates in fights in the summer. He gets shot in the leg at the Battle of Brandywine on September 11, 1777 (before Saratoga).
Later the French Navy defeated the British fleet at the battle of the Chesapeake, also known as the battle of the Virginia Capes, under the command of Comte de Grasse and then prevented the Royal Navy from reinforcing or evacuating the blockaded forces of Lord Cornwallis at Yorktown.
The result was the reinforcement of the American army with siege artillery and French troops - all of which proved decisive in the Siege of Yorktown, effectively securing American independence.
At this decisive battle, more than half of the fighting troops were French - led by Comte de Rochambeau.
Are the French invited to the festivities (like the American are every year invited in France for the remembering of D-Day June 6, 1944 ) ?

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 13:11 | 3721542 TrustWho
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The French joined after watching the events and deciding the colonies were likely going to win. Remember, Burgoynes army surrendered at Saratoga, NY in October 1777. Burgoyne realized the British effort was friutless as the American forces understood the same situation in Vietnam 190 years later. After Burgoyne's surrender, the French started helping in the colonies as an extension of their long war against the British.

The facts in your comment are correlated. Causation, as claimed, has many holes. 

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 08:06 | 3726069 Analyse2
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The colonies were never likely going to win without the help of the French.
But for D-Day June 6, 1944 and the liberation of France, we may rightly use your own words to say that the US started helping France as an extension of their war against the German (after being attacked, and because it was on the path towards Berlin).
In fact France needed help in 1939 (only 5 years ago !).

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 13:17 | 3721556 Mr. Hudson
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: "which without the aid of the French, USA’s evolution as we know it, in all likelihood, wouldn’t exist."

Which was money King Louie borrowed from Rothschild. We would not have "won" the Revolution without "the aid of Rothschild". Rothschild financed our Revolution against England. You want to "take back America"? Strike a deal with Rothschild, and there may be a chance of succeeding.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:56 | 3721486 bugs_
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Meet the new electorate!

Same as the old electorate!

YEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:57 | 3721488 catch edge ghost
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Revolutions are a generational process. It takes that long to learn that all of the promises are really only lies. I figure the next significant course change in human events is easily 30-50 years out.  We are the grandfathers of that Revolution. We are the pioneers and founders.

Some day there might be statues of some of us.. for the awesome things we said.. in the internet blog comments.. that one time.. when The People clicked in a manner which conveyed Their support.

For the rest of us, we must actually do shit.
Survive the tyranny and be an example to your line - of how to pursue Liberty.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:58 | 3721493 ThisIsBob
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Jefferson and the Constitution have at least one thing in common:  They are both dead.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 12:59 | 3721497 CuttingEdge
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Maybe a Requiem, Tyler?

 

Gotta admire the Egyptians.

Their first dabble at democracy and they get a buffoon Islamic God-complex for their pains. Trying to expand his power to encompass the judiciary and military? Sharia law and all that crap a pretty secular society can't be bothered with? So they get the military to kick the Brotherhood in the nuts and Omar's your uncle, so to speak. Let's give it another crack without the funny farm hate-preaching brigade in the running. We might get it right, but if not, the shit cant't be any worse than it is right now under this religious nutjob.

Pretty much what Jefferson was talking about?

“That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”

 

So Egyptians get my vote.

Whereas the USSA or any EU country's average citizen? He/she just takes it up the arse; more interested in reality TV and irrelevant shit than anything actually important and pertinent to their own future prospects. Pick ten people you socialise with - how many will engage enthusiastically in conversation about Snowden and Prism, the failure of the €, or the communisation of the USA from the top man down? No one seems to give a fuck. Might interfere with their cotton-candy lifestyles. Apathetic doesn't come close.

The USA is fucked, and getting demographically more fucked by the day. That 47% at the last election who would vote for a dog turd if it had a Democrat rosette affixed? That is going to get a whole lot bigger in short order with the amnesty of illegals. I doubt many of them are Irish/Italian/Polish.

Not that it makes any different with the other mob in - both parties look afer the 1% as first priority. Donations, donations...that is how the USA is governed these days, pandering to the corps who put up the big money to lobby their interests..

Until a sizable majority of the population get pissed off enough to "Make like an Egyptian" and apply Jeffersons words into action, the shit isnt going down. Might take a generation for that to come about. Hope I'm around to see it happen.

 

But in the meantime here's an idea for a new reality show that may grab the imagination of the masses:

 

"The Hunt for the White House Prayer Mat"


a concept drawn unapologetically from Spitting Image: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FaH7ATXkWg

 

Hope you guys Stateside are having a great day off.

 

 

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 13:03 | 3721515 Mr. Hudson
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You guys who keep talking about "revolution" are about 30 years too late. The government has been planning for the collapse of our financial system since Carter was president. I have read the government's plan (as it was written by the Treasury department) on what the government will do in the event of when the economy folds. It is not a pretty picture. Everything is in place. The government is organized; you are not. You are all in a government database, and you are viewed as “enemies” and “terrorists” of the government. You are a "threat".

Think about your lives. Think about your family's lives. Think about surviving what is coming. Stop worrying about the price of gold, and stop thinking about starting an armed, bloody revolution. You can't win because you are in the minority. The Hopi Indians prophesied in the 1880's that in 130 years "the United States government will slaughter millions of its own citizens". Guess what? Every prophecy of the Hopis has come true!

Be smart! Don't get "slaughtered". Think about moving to North Dakota, or leaving the country. But, whatever you do, don’t die for an unwinnable cause.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 13:50 | 3721645 KickIce
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.Exactly, too many Americans are feeding from the government trough and don't care that they are benefiting from an unsustainable system.  Even those that realize something is wrong don't understand the Fed or the role that Central Banks have played in our misery. It's going to take a currency collapse to wake up the average American and it'll hit like a freight train.

It'll be ugly but still winnable.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 13:04 | 3721517 youngman
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Going down to a restaurant bar here in Medellin to have a little apple pie and ice cream in honor of the 4th of July....he made it special for us EX pats down here....Happy 4th of July fellow Patriots

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 13:06 | 3721527 Crash Overide
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They do not have my consent to impose their destructive will upon me... I stand with my brothers and sisters, until the end, one way or another. I have nothing to fear. Today I celebrate being free in my mind, there is no turning back.

 

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 13:07 | 3721529 Sudden Debt
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for us, national holliday is 21 of july.... and we get a new DUMBASS King... man... that guy is such a moron...
The reason the old king stepped down... and let his son become king... is because it's well known that in the next election of 2014, 72% of the population wants to get rid of the king.
THAT JUST SUCKS!
That fucker makes 320 MILLION EURO'S A YEAR!!! WHAT KIND OF FUCKED UP SALARY IS THAT?!? 320 FUCKING MILLION FOR DOING SHIT ALL DAY!! FUCK THAT!!

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 15:20 | 3721833 Hulk
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I WANT TO BE KING !!!

/and I'll do it for only a hundred million Euros a year !!!

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 13:08 | 3721534 Atomizer
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Happy 4th of July to Zerohedge members.

Q: Who'd win in a gunfight? The Taliban, FARC, Hezbollah, or Hamas? The catch: No suicide bombers.

http://nsa.motherboard.tv/

We also want to extent today’s freedom of independence to the taxpayer funded alphabet soup agencies who violate the United States Constitution.  

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 13:23 | 3721575 chistletoe
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Jefferson';s words sure were fine ...

in fact, they were about as fine as Blamkfein's "We are doing God's Work"...

 

It is perhaps instructive to take a critical look at how the man lived .... owner and operator of a plantation of over

2,000 acres of lush piedmont land, and owning over 150 african-born slaves to do the real wrok of farming ...

but he still failed miserably to make a profit ... and, meanwhile, he took one of those slaves one "Sally Hemings"

to be his constant consort for decades, even to teravel with him to Washington and to Paris, and yet, though

she bore him several children, he never gave them his name and he never even gave her her freedom, not

even upon his death ....

 

fine words.  very fine.  some things have changed very little, in 250 years ...

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 13:24 | 3721578 TrustWho
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Talking about sad irreverence for our founding father...President Obama vs President Washington

I will let you guess who is who:

1) Campaign organizer who likes to party and play golf.

2) As the troops fell back from fear, he rides forward facing enemy fire, holds the line, reverses battle course and American wins.

You may think this is easy, but Obama did reinforce Afganistan forces, HE killed Obama after the weak cowardly Bush let him go, saved the people of Benghazi....so do not be so quick with your answer.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 14:11 | 3721700 KickIce
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I prefer leading troops in your own land against a tyrant versus sending other people's kids to "spread democracy" in another country?  Our Founders all had skin in the game, today's "leaders" exempt themselves and their families.

Or we could compare the Declaration of Independence vs Healthcare and the strengthening of Homeland Security to compare who established freedom.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 15:20 | 3721835 TrustWho
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Holy Cow! The "You may think this is easy" paragraph was total sarcasm. I thought sarcasm was obvious!

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 13:30 | 3721593 Dre4dwolf
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4th of July, In New York, You don't even have the right to light a sparkler haha

Still many people light off morters and such for fun.... even though it usually comes at a the price of a hefty fine + possible jail time depending.

 

Some cops are cool and will drive past you ignoring the blatant 5lb charged mortar standing behind you.

those officers are far and few between nowadays.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 13:32 | 3721599 ak_khanna
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At least people in some countries like Egypt have the guts to kick out non performing and incompetent governments unlike the zombie citizens of the so called developed countries that go about their lives ignoring their governments illegal actions of taking away their civil liberties by spying on all their activities, letting their countries drown in debt and letting big businesses and banks dictate the rules and regulation by which the majority of the citizens have to live.

llusion of Democracy today.

People sponsored by the rich, make false promises to the masses to get elected. Distribute national wealth amongst themselves and their sponsors (Industrialists) and when that is not enough borrow money from rest of the world and continue the distribution process. The borrowed money has to be paid back by taxing the masses keeping in mind that tax rules are made such that the politicians and their sponsors pay minimum or no taxes.

End of political tenure, rinse and repeat till the whole system breaks down and the world wealth is cornered by a minuscule of the population.

Having deprived a majority of the population of their wealth and the means to earn a living, the politicians need unlimited access to the military to control the probability of a revolt by the victims of their crimes. 

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article40231.html

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 13:34 | 3721607 Manipuflation
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It's a wake.  Funeral date not quite yet determined.  Here is one for you...I can't buy shitty Chinee fireworks in Wisconsin because I still have a Wisconsin driver's license.  I would need to get a permit from the township where I intend to use the fireworks. 

Get this though, Mrs M CAN legally purchase fireworks in WI because she has a MN driver's license.  The best part is that Mrs. M is not even a US citizen.  

Think on that one for a while.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 17:28 | 3721658 22winmag
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When the U.S. Military itself is pushed to the brink... that's when we will see the wheat separated from the chaff. and the the patriots from the traitors.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 14:07 | 3721690 decentralizedsc...
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OR: we could all quit pissing and moaning and actually take personal responsibility by amending the Constitution. If the people don't understand it, teach them. If they've been taught it can't be done, unteach them. There are many Americans capable of understanding this amendment that won't broadcast it for fear of sounding naive; they (or you) have been brainwashed. Americans understand Corpocracy better than you think. If you're politically savvy it's your responsibility to teach the rest how to use the Constitution for their own benefit. It's your responsibility as an American to at least try. I think the wording should look something like this, what do you think? We need to start thinking like revolutionaries. American revolutionaries write constitutions. Constitutionalist amend them from time to time. It's about time we dealt with the issue of corporate charters and their legal status under constitutional government: as in; who comes first? Stop pointing your fingers out in every direction and look at yourself in the mirror, that's who's responsible and that's the only person that can fix it.

 28th Amendment (The Constitutional Emergency Amendment)

    Corporations are not persons and shall be granted only those rights and privileges that Congress deems necessary for the well-being of the People. Congress shall provide legislation defining the terms and conditions of corporate charters according to their purpose; which shall include, but are not limited to:
    1, prohibitions against any corporation;
    a, owning another corporation,
    b, becoming economically indispensable or monopolistic, or
    c, otherwise distorting the general economy;
    2, prohibitions against any form of intervention in the affairs of government by means of;
    a, congressional lobbying
    b, electoral sponsorship or advocacy
    c, educational sponsorship or publication
    d, media news reporting
    3, provisions for;
    a, the auditing of standardized, current, and transparent account books
    b, closing the FRB and the establishment of state-owned banks
    c, civil and criminal penalties to be suffered by corporate executives et al for violation of the terms of a corporate charter.

Optional: (or possible 29th amendment)

    The 16th Amendment to the United States Constitution is hereby repealed and Congress shall re-write the U.S. Code to reflect the changes embodied herein.

    (While we're at it, we could also repeal the 17th amendment)

 

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 16:19 | 3721957 Bitchin Bear
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you mean you actually trust that congressional crime syndicate to legislate terms and conditons for corporations?  Good luck with that one  

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 19:01 | 3722158 decentralizedsc...
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It is precisely because the Congress is a (corporate-sponsored) crime syndicate that this amendment is necessary. If this amendment were ratified however, the NEXT Congress would be composed of representatives that weren't put there by corporate sponsorship. Congress (along with the full force of a vicious corporate MSM) will fight this amendment with everything they've got. This amendment constitutes the dividing line between Corporatist ideology and Constitutional ideology. It will ultimately be fought in the streets with an angry populace demanding their petition be constitutionally honored by State legislatures. It will take overwhelming numbers to do it. It won't be easy. But it won't be nearly as bloody and in-conclusive as a revolution with no clearly defined goal. The Constitution already provides legal grounds for the Constitution to be amended without the approval of the existing government: it's in Article Five. The revolution we need is entirely legal and the American people can pull it off without anyone ever getting shot or breaking a law. This is the moral high ground that gives existing military and law enforcement officials the option of honoring their oath to uphold the Constitution - or not. What do you think the rank and file American soldier or policeman will most likely support; the Constitution or the Congress? Look at their respective approval ratings. I'd bet on the law-enforcement community to support the Constitution, the People, and the rule of law.

There's only a few hundred of THEM; there's millions of US ! It's not a matter of trust; it's in the numbers.  They'd like you to believe the People will never unite for any cause. I'd rather have you believe they can and will. I'm only one and they have an educational system and the MSM to program your thinking: so - do you follow them or me? If you stand up for the truth will people follow you or the corporate propaganda machine? How many of us are there? We'll never know if we never ask.  

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 11:48 | 3723790 Spanky
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+1

 

There's only a few hundred of THEM; there's millions of US ! It's not a matter of trust; it's in the numbers.  They'd like you to believe the People will never unite for any cause. I'd rather have you believe they can and will. I'm only one and they have an educational system and the MSM to program your thinking: so - do you follow them or me? If you stand up for the truth will people follow you or the corporate propaganda machine? How many of us are there? We'll never know if we never ask. -- decentralizedscutinizer

Well said.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 11:45 | 3723782 Spanky
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No.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 11:43 | 3723774 Spanky
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+1

Because...

OR: we could all quit pissing and moaning and actually take personal responsibility by amending the Constitution. If the people don't understand it, teach them. If they've been taught it can't be done, unteach them. -- decentralizedsc...

Well said.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 14:13 | 3721704 CEOoftheSOFA
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Jefferson was the president that initially drew up the plan to deport the Cherokee to Oklahoma.  He also passed a law which made it illegal for Blacks to carry the mail.  He also made foreign trade illegal.  I gues it's easier to talk about liberty then to actually practice it.  

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 14:18 | 3721714 overmedicatedun...
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4th of july some how rings hollow, a shell, but all our pols will speak how great our freedom ..while DHS and .gov goons frisk and fondle the crowd, glower at us with bullet proof vests and fully auto rifles..for us common people of the world- this is our freedom, enjoy. the rulers will make a mistake, here in the USA. watch for random acts aginst authority, not in the MSM, but in media. The Military is watching Egypt like we all are. do you feel the rush of history as I do?

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 15:10 | 3721826 All Out Of Bubblegum
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One of the more annoying aspects of the internet is the presence of those morons that feel it necessary to "downvote" simple, verifiable hsitory because it conflicts with the tiny worldview that they hold in their tinier minds and their even tinier hearts.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 19:05 | 3722239 Shell Game
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Point me to the verifiable 'Jefferson made foreign trade illegal'.  That's a new one for me...

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 14:52 | 3721792 Kirk2NCC1701
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Democracy is not for the dumb, weak or lazy.  Sorry.

Otherwise, you get exactly that which the ambitious, smart and organized people decide you will get.

 

"Welcome to the Real World, Neo".

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 15:00 | 3721796 Vic Odd
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Happy 4th!

Ah how things have changed!

 

Thomas Jefferson called himself a Liberal

What Liberal used to mean:

1. a person who favors a political philosophy of progress and reform and the protection of civil liberties

2. a person who favors an economic theory of laissez-faire and self-regulating markets

 

Rachael Maddow calls herself a Liberal

Now in 2013 this is what it means.

1. Executive order abuse when Republicans are pesky and Constitutional

2. Overthrow of Libya (petrodollar restoration) approved by the U.N. instead of congress

3. Monetary policy based on whatever Bernanke says

4. GMO Monsanto shills influence USDA and FDA

5. Blame Bush for everything

6. If you don't want to cooperate with a symptom relief, Rockefeller Foundation financed, drug for profit Health Care 

monopoly mandate  that ignores prevention and nutrition, pay the IRS a penalty(tax)!

7. Spy on your enemy, blackmail Judges, Put a compliant dud in charge of D.O.J.

8. Prevent Media from exposing the real problem: Private Central Banks

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 15:01 | 3721812 Stimulati
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You have shown that you have no idea what liberals stand for.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 14:58 | 3721809 Stimulati
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Before the Fed monetary authority was controlled by JP Morgan.  Now that is a tiny banking elite.  

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 15:08 | 3721816 Kirk2NCC1701
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I chuckle whenever I read punchlines like "Self-regulating Markets", because their writers invariably associate this with "unregulated" markets.

Think of the physiology and bio-chemistry of the self-regulating (animal) body for guidelines:  The ONLY reason that "self-regulation" works, is that the body has fairly hard & fast rules about the function of all its System, organs and cells.  It is NOT a "free-for-all".  Each has well-defined range of operating parameters, and that's that! 

We used to have something that resembled "free markets", but we've done away even with that approximation when we voted in Reagan/Bush.  It was under their leadership that we started to dismantle whatever Checks & Balances we had -- all in the Bait & Switch renaming game of "DE-RE-GU-LA-TION".

Now... we're screwed.  We are past fixing "This Old House" -- in spite of rhetoric and self-comforting delusions to the contrary.  [sigh] The sad truth is, it's time to bring out the wrecking ball or bulldozer and start fresh. 

Put on another song for the national Wake/Memoriam for now.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 15:30 | 3721860 IMA5U
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stop worrying and get a life

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 15:33 | 3721867 ATG
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Never too late to take our country back one real candidate at a time:

 

http://usnvrepcan.blogspot.com/

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 16:12 | 3721941 Hulk
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Have a listen To Gene Burns, famous talk show host in Boston and San Francisco, read the Declaration Of Independence

http://www.talk910.com/player/?station=KKSF-AM&program_name=podcast&program_id=burns.xml&mid=22232960

 

Gene died this last May, 

Rest in Peace Gene...

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 16:45 | 3721994 Monedas
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"We may never recover from the socialist morass we've abandoned ourselves to .... I hope that ex-socialist states .... take the initiative .... and lead us back to the promised land of Capitalism .... and pay back their debt to humanity .... for their failed experiments with socialism !" ....  Monedas    July 4, 2013     Comedy Jihad World Tour

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 16:50 | 3722002 DeliciousSteak
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“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

Did they consider blacks to be animals? What about the natives?

Sounds to me like they were a bunch of hypocrites creating a system that provided liberty for their various businesses, not people. They're nice words of course, but Obama's got those too. America is what it always has been after all is said and done.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 17:16 | 3722049 Mi Naem
Thu, 07/04/2013 - 19:07 | 3722240 Shell Game
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That was very good.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 17:26 | 3722070 kurt
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Possible Answer: Memorial

Why? If true, a nation-wide homeland security operation "Independence" has DHS and Police forces running around in full swat atire and big trucks with a concentration at transportation centers.

What does that look like? Roadblocks, shakedowns, by armed goons.

On INDEPENDENCE DAY!

Gee Wiz that's not provocative toward the more paranoid gun guys. Besides, we know that these operations never go wrong?

This may be bull crap as it's coming from Alex Jones. If true it's fundamentally insane.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 18:42 | 3722187 Xando
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I see lots of thoughts here on the utility of voting, the danger of voting, proper voting strategy, etc. Allow me to suggest a helpful strategy on this big problem. Here's the rough, tactical guideline:

1) Find out which group runs your district. This will determine which party to back. Yes, always go with the ruling party. If you live in a Democrat district, go Democrat. If you live in a Republican district, go Republican. Etc. It does not matter if you hate the particular party in charge of your area. Odds are you probably do. That's okay. The strategy I'm putting forward is subversive in nature. You're there to upset apple carts.

2) Pay close attention to when the primaries or caucuses come along. This is the most important point. There's almost no point voting in the general election. By that time the election is already over in your district in most cases. You've got to head them off at the pass, and that's the primaries.

3) Get involved in those primaries, and do everything you can to defeat the incumbent or the party favorite.

That's the tactical guideline. For more information on the general strategy from which the tactics are based, look here:

http://campaign4primaryaccountability.org/issue/

Please give this idea some serious thought.

Then, go take your country back.

 

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 23:59 | 3722773 Vooter
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I don't want this country back...

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 18:45 | 3722192 Trampy
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I've been wearing walking around wearing a pair of old steel handcuffs clamped onto on my left wrist.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 19:36 | 3722311 Vic Odd
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What is the other end of the chain attached to Trampy?

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 21:52 | 3722582 robertocarlos
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How come I'm not free to take cocaine? God damn crackers keeping me down.

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