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The 50 Fattest Nations

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On the day after celebrating its independence and with likely half the nation suffering from over-consumption, we thought it appropriate to 'celebrate' another #winning rank by the US. At an average of 181.27lbs (gender-weighted!), Bloomberg finds that the US is the 'heaviest' nation on earth.

 

 

Bloomberg ranked countries based on the weight of an average adult, which is the gender ratio-weighted aggregate of male and female adults.

Methodology

Weights were calculated by adapting the standard BMI formula: BMI = (weight in pounds / (height in inches x height in inches)) x 703. BMI is an index of weight-to-height used to classify underweight, overweight and obese adults. Average adult BMI data were collected from the World Health Organization.

 


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Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:37 | Link to Comment Al Huxley
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Fuck, finally back on top for something.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:44 | Link to Comment ZerOhead
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More bad news for Americans...   (if they could actually read)

 

It is bad for your blood pressure, knocks years off your life and is a strain on your heart. Now scientists have discovered that gaining weight lowers your intelligence.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1531487/The-greater-your-weight-t...

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:50 | Link to Comment ACP
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Dude, Tyler, gotta highlight the other ones too!

Highest passive (welfare) earners: San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA

Heaviest women: Egypt, 172 lbs (WTF???)

Most Senior Workers: Wash DC (a la Nancy Pelosi - can't can't stop stealin' when the stealin's good!)

Highest Pay for Tech Jobs: Wash DC - (WTF2???)

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:21 | Link to Comment economics9698
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"Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life."

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:24 | Link to Comment Obese-Redneck
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Go to any famous chain restaraunt today, see the parking lot full of giant shiny 6000cc turbo supercharged diesel phallis wagons, not a spot of mud on them mind you, then watch the patrons waddle in and out and drive 300 yards back home. Country folk can't even walk a country mile anymore.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:36 | Link to Comment Taffy Lewis
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My favorite move by some of my neighbors is to angle their vehicle when they're coming home and parking in the driveway; they're too fucking fat and lazy to walk the 30 feet from vehicle to mail box, so they run up over the curb so that they can get their mail on the way in. A couple of weeks ago, one guy went too close, knocking the mail box sideways and scraping the side of his truck.

And then there's the neighbors that have small yards like mine who use riding mowers.

U.S.A, U.S.A, U.S.A.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 08:19 | Link to Comment GeezerGeek
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You have neighbors who cut their own grass? Why are they being so cruel to all those Mexican landscapers? It's like taking the food out of their mouths.

Something like this actually happened to me, in fact. Retired and a victim of ZIRP, I was outside pushing my lawnmower one day and a truck from a landscaping company drives by and stops. The driver askes if there's any yard work I need done (yes, he had an accent, but so does my Chinese wife). I said no, I do my own yard work, since I need the exercise and would alternatively have to pay someone else to do it and pay for membership in a gym to get exercise. Smiling, the driver simply said I was interfering with his ability to earn an income (my words, not his) and drove off. My final thought was that at least he wasn't lining up for a handout and was willing to work for his money. 

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 13:13 | Link to Comment malek
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He played the guilt card.
He did so because he learned from experience it works surprisingly often. (And you likely live on the Left Coast, where that is especially true.)

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 04:05 | Link to Comment firestarter_916
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Actually, they don't line up anymore for handouts, it's wired to their bank accounts then sent back to their home country. They get paid cash at these jobs while also signing up for govt benfits. Immigrants are excellent at this. I'm seeing the Russians getting wise to this as well, sending their kids to Amerika to make money under the table, get student loans to live on and get govt benefits to send home or spend on their Beamers.  The Boston B0mbers did it...and we're too fat and stupid to see us being robbed blind.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 10:53 | Link to Comment Doowleb
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We have a public school behind our house.

Every school day there are many cars lined up to drop their kids off. Many are neighbours who live less than half a block away. We see the school bus pick up kids at the end of their lane. The lane is 100 yards long but the parents drive the lane and the kids wait for the bus in the car.

These kids won't be able to tie their own shoes when the mature.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 23:10 | Link to Comment Georgiabelle
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Depending on where you live, this might have more to do with safety than with laziness or over-indulgence. We live in a dangerous world and many moms would rather drive their kids to school or to the bus stop than risk that admittedly one-in-a-??? chance of assault or abduction.  I drove my kids to the bus stop because it was around a corner and down a curvy hill and, hence, out of my sightline, not because I thought it was too far to walk. When my son hit 6 feet tall in the 8th grade I started letting him walk with a friend. I drove my daughter through middle school. I always enjoyed my morning taxi duties and found that for some unknown reason the kids were more willing to share info about school, their friends, and their lives in that setting. I can't speak for other "helicopter" moms, but my kids went off to out of state colleges, have good jobs in distant cities, and can definitely tie their own shoes, so I guess they weren't too damaged by my hovering. YMMV.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 22:50 | Link to Comment Carl Spackler
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Americans are not fat, we are "Rubenesque."

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:48 | Link to Comment Al Huxley
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Works out well for our modern society though, as being dumber makes all the shit that's on TV a LOT easier to deal with.  How the fuck else are you supposed to sit through, DWTS, The Bachelorette, American Idol, ....

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:52 | Link to Comment ZerOhead
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Point very well taken...

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:06 | Link to Comment knukles
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Or maybe watching the TV makes one dumber....

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:37 | Link to Comment ThirdWorldDude
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You gotta be dumb to stare at the dumb(o)-box which makes you dumber which leads to staring at it even more...

It's a circle jerk sponsored by Uncle Sugar and paid for by your hard-earned fiat. What was that saying again about good intentions leading straight to hell?

 

 

 

Reminded me of an old rhetorical question:

Are people naturally that stupid or have they been training hard?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:42 | Link to Comment CH1
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Are people naturally that stupid or have they been training hard?

Training. That's what government schools are for.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 19:50 | Link to Comment BLOTTO
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0%

Fat Free

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Ironic, that the fattest nation on the planet has the most failed (*and a few cases good) diet plans, foods and fads...but to no effect...

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Wall-E movie spaceship

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 00:04 | Link to Comment Never One Roach
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Yeah, they are Huge Money Makers, these diet schemes. I notice even Dr Oz now hypes various weight loss methods, formulas and potions/pills.

 

I know, I know, they all have "thyroid problems" right? Or need a growth hormone shot?

 

How about trying cutting back to only 4 Krispy Kreems a day and a small Double Moccha Frappe instead of 3?

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 04:33 | Link to Comment OutLookingIn
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Sure fire lose weight exercise.

If practised daily is;

PUSH YOURSELF AWAY FROM THE TABLE!

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:43 | Link to Comment thisandthat
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But it's bullish for the economy (think about it in terms of energy reserves...)

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 22:00 | Link to Comment ChanceIs
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Is bad for the the body and bad for the soul
Bad for the heart, bad for the mind,
Bad for the deaf, and bad for the blind

Makes some men crazy and then they act like fools
Makes some men crazy, and then they start to drool

Unscrupulous operators could confuse
Could exploit and deceive
Conditional reflex theories and changing probabilities
It's a crass and raucous crackass place
It's a plague upon the the human race
It's a terrible illness, it's a terrible case
And it's usually permanent when it takes place

It's a teenage nervous breakdown
It's a teenage nervous breakdown
Little Feat circa 1977    Query for the board (and SOTUS Chief Justice John Roberts):  Under ObamaCare hasn't one's body effectively become public property?  So getting fat is a little like defacing buses, train stations, etc with "graffiti."  Don't I, as an individual and taxpayer, have a say over how you maintain your body?  Isn't it a little like a condo association - where if you paint your condo pink when the rules say only white is allowed you can get sued in civil court?  So according to our namesake, can't we have our children snoop on these "waistline challenged" fellow citizens, report them to the "fat police," seize their persons, and send them to weight reduction camp for a month or so - for the good of the commune, the collective.  You know - "we are the Borg, resistence is futile."

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 23:36 | Link to Comment max2205
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All part of the plan to reduce future burden on welfare and soc sec payouts...long coffins

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 08:23 | Link to Comment GeezerGeek
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I know what you meant by 'long coffins', but in this case, perhaps 'long wide coffins' would be more appropriate.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 23:57 | Link to Comment Never One Roach
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Charts make my Brain hurt, Tyler.

Is there a audio version?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:29 | Link to Comment Dingleberry
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We would probably win first place for tattoos also. 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:59 | Link to Comment stocktivity
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Pretty soon the ones without tattoos will stick out and look cool....unless they're one of the over weights.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 10:30 | Link to Comment Bastiat
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Obesity creates more tattoo surface.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:59 | Link to Comment AGuy
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lets all chant:

USA #1! USA #1!

Sorry could not resist.

 

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 00:01 | Link to Comment benjamin_1114
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181.5, that's it? I eat a McDonald's 4 times a year. Stopped there on my way to my parents so my kids could play in their shitty, dirty, disgusting play land for 15-20 minutes. What a bunch of fat disgusting fucks were there. Want to fix the fat problem in America? Tax fast food, soda, everything with high fructose corn syrup (my old man farms corn/soybeans and is fine getting rid of ethanol/ high fructose corn syrup even though it destroys prices) and cigarettes. Legalize pot, it's better for you than alcohol.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 19:00 | Link to Comment Ballin D
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I agree with everything you said except this: 

>"Want to fix the fat problem in America? Tax fast food, soda, everything with high fructose corn syrup "

Lets be honest, social controls at the federal level have never worked as intended. The obesity problem is very likely related to our intervention... outlawing risk based health insurance (heffers paying the same as me), govt meddling in agriculture based on lobbyist and corporate interests, and generally babying adults at every turn. If you dont give people the responsibility to own their own lives they will act like children. We've all had overbearing bosses that have ruined teams trying to control every action. It never works.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:39 | Link to Comment ZerOhead
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He ain't heavy... he's my brother... and cousin... and sister...

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 19:11 | Link to Comment McMolotov
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Don't leave out the children.

Any time I'm in my kids' school, I take note of how many enormous children there are. It's frightening. Kids were never that size when I was younger, and I'm not old by any means (mid 30s). The parents are enormous, too — men and women in their 30s and 40s limping because they're so heavy that they've already wrecked their knees.

We think health care is expensive now, but just wait a decade or two. It'll be off the charts.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:48 | Link to Comment Whatta
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I'm 55...but looking back through old grade school class photos is very telling.

Almost every kid back then was thin as a piece of bacon. And teachers as well. No sodas or candy allowed in school. No fast food joints around, no HFCS.....just a bunch of gangly kids that ran at recess, road bikes, etc.

 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 22:16 | Link to Comment Parrotile
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Cycle or walk to school: NO School Buses.

If you're cycling, you HAD to learn the Road Rules - 'cause you're the one who will be injured in any collision - your fault or not.

So, from the start we had a good grasp of basic road safety. Maybe you have "rights", but you better believe you had a whole more responsibilities too - which made fro a "safety first" mindset. Add in the fact that you WILL be stopped if you are riding a bike at night with poor or absent lights (and your Parents WILL be fined), so people learnt responsible behaviour in a very practical way.

Seven years secondary education, school on the intersection of a pair of busy roads (one a major highway, one a busy feeder road). NO "School Zones" so everyone learns to WAIT.

For a school of 450 pupils, in those seven years we NEVER had a SINGLE fatality. Only THREE significant accidents (broken arms / legs ) in that time.

 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:38 | Link to Comment Scro
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America #1 hell ya

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:40 | Link to Comment ZerOhead
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#1 with a burrito...

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:41 | Link to Comment HelluvaEngineer
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..coming again to save the motherfuckin' day yeah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZdJRDpLHbw

 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:40 | Link to Comment HelluvaEngineer
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It's the GMO.  It's the damn corn syrup in all the EBT-class foods.  But most importantly, it the total lack of vitamins and minerals in all of our foods, which compel us to eat salty crap to convince our bodies that we are getting basic nutrients.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:41 | Link to Comment Al Huxley
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Might also be all those 32 oz sodas and 3/4 lb burgers, double cheese, double bacon, extra large fries,....  You know, I remember a time when, if Type 2 diabetes even existed, nobody had ever heard of it.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:50 | Link to Comment Turin Turambar
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Al, it's not the burgers. It's the amylopectin A in wheat. It's got a ridiculously high glycemic index which results in a blood sugar spike followed by insulin surge and then lots of storage as belly fat. This is in addition to the production of AGEs, exorphins, plus everybody's favorite immunologic trigger - glutin. Worst of all, the wheat is ubiquitous, especially in processed foods.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:55 | Link to Comment Al Huxley
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Yeah, as I said below, I agree with the general thesis of the book, that the new strains of wheat contribute to the problem, coupled with the fact that it's in everything.  But I'd say it's pretty undeniable that the average caloric intake now is a LOT higher than it used to be (and the quality of those calories is a lot worse - low complexity sugars, processed fats, etc.) than even 30 years ago.  Wheat's changed a lot in 100 years, but the modern hybrids have been around since the 50's and 60's or earlier, and the bulk of the weight problems have developed over the past 25 years.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:08 | Link to Comment Scro
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It's not how much you eat, it's what you eat. I'm down 32lbs from dec 7th 2012 (10 to go). I generally follow Dr. McDougall (vegetarian). I tried to eat some Mexican food and it made me sick for 3 days.

Y'all will have to take up the slack.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:23 | Link to Comment bornlastnight
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Down 32 lbs?  Lucky you.  I went on a two week diet once but all I lost was 14 days.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 07:29 | Link to Comment Socratic Dog
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500 fucking opinions on what the problem is.  All probably wrong.

My money is on it being the carbs.  Cut the starches and sugars out.  Get most of your calories from fat.  It works, well, it did for me.  And the studies are in now to prove it.  Not that they should be needed, this was common knowledge until about 50 years ago.

Look up some of Gary Taubes' writings, he presents a convincing case.

Fucking government, and dieticians, and doctors, tell us the opposite, carbs should be the basis of our diets.  Any good ZH'er should know that automatically means it's wrong.

 

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 10:50 | Link to Comment MachoMan
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Do you even lift, bro?

(carbs are good for some people)

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 13:31 | Link to Comment malek
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Yours probably wrong too.

Eating lots of sugary stuff all my life. And drinking mostly apple juice when I was a kid (fruit sugars!), sodas when I grew up (in a country where they don't use HFCS).
Was told by my grandparents I will get diabetes. As no one in my family had that except one grandmother at old age, I silently laugh at it.

Now living in the US for a number of years, drinking HFCS stuff. No difference to beet sugared sodas that I can detect in my weight, propensity to gain weight, or otherwise.
My BMI never was over 25 in my life.

Since I turned 35 I need to consciously watch a bit how much I eat, which mainly means don't eat anything until I am really hungry (light stomach growling).
I'm still getting my energy mostly from carbs.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:31 | Link to Comment Al Huxley
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Yes, true.  But it's also because it's really fucking hard to eat 3000 calories worth of vegetables, but a burger fries and a milkshake will give you that and you won't even notice it until 20 minutes later.  Also true about the body adapting to whatever it's being fed.  When I'm eating better, I find the fatty stuff makes me feel like shit, but if I eat it for a few days, it becomes the norm.  Our bodies are amazingly adaptable that way....

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 19:05 | Link to Comment thisandthat
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Oh, you all - just shut up and eat your hot dog(s)...

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 00:51 | Link to Comment Scro
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I have a small salad at dinner. Most of the time I eat red beans and rice covered in hot sauce or a baked potato with lentil chili on top. Taste great and very filling.

I lost weight because I want to stay out of the health care system as long as I can. It's also easier to hike, ride my motorcycle ect w/o the weight.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:04 | Link to Comment Blano
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I've been trying to lose the same 5 pounds all year.  Good for you.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 22:18 | Link to Comment Anusocracy
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On Apr 5th I went on the 5:2 (intermittent 'fasting') diet and have lost 16 lbs - from 164 to 148.. Body fat is under 17%.

It's based on two 500-600 calorie 'fast' days and five days of normal eating each week. I find it pretty easy to do because the dieting is only two days and your genes don't get a chance to gang up on you. 

http://leangainsguide.com/diet/igf-1-and-fasting/

 

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 00:18 | Link to Comment post turtle saver
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a pound of body fat is ~3500 calories... cut 500 calories a day from your diet and do some light exercise (walk a mile, etc) three times a week... you will lose weight, it may be slow but it will come off... there's 52 weeks in a year, do the math

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 00:57 | Link to Comment Scro
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Anus,

Glad for your success but diets don't work. At some point you stop and go right back to bad habits. Been there done that.

I'm too weak to just rely on make good choices, I had stop cold turkey and break the processed food addiction. Now I feel much better.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 13:33 | Link to Comment escargot
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Obesity is all about processed shit, and processed shit is mainly about sugar(s).  Losing and maintaining weight is easy.  Don't eat sugar, period, and you'll lose all the weight you need.  All this "calorie counting" "portion size" and "need more exercise" talk is nonsense.  Lose the sugar and flour and that's all ya need to do.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:11 | Link to Comment HelluvaEngineer
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FWIW, I went off some acid reducer meds 10 days ago and I have lost 5 lbs so far.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:21 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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As for increase in intake, that's pretty much par for the course when discussing addictive substances. I'd also say that the last twenty-five years is due to the fact that far less food is cooked from scratch anymore.

So, honestly, I don't see where your view differs from Wheat Belly at all.

 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:33 | Link to Comment Al Huxley
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I'm just attributing it to more calories in general, not wheat calories in particular.  I think you could go gluten-free and still balloon up if all your calories came from milkshakes and soda, even if they were 100% organic milkshakes and sodas.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:56 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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Of course. My attempted point was that wheat is what keeps the "I'm still hungry" feeling as it circumvents the "I'm full."

It's like crack, as it even crosses the brain-blood barrier.

Jonesin' for bread, they are.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:32 | Link to Comment bornlastnight
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"...lots of storage as belly fat."...Aha!  Now I know why I couldn't see my dick for the past 30 years.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 15:16 | Link to Comment NeoLuddite
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AKA Dick-Doo disease. That's when your tummy sticks out more than your dick do.

Endemic in North America,

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 19:42 | Link to Comment Boondocker
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I have dropped wheat from my diet (not as easy as it sounds...its in everything).  2 months, 15 lbs.  No other changes.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:35 | Link to Comment BeaverFever
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That's nothing! I lost 115 lbs. I got divorced. That's what she weighed.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 10:55 | Link to Comment MachoMan
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In my experience, they don't get in shape until after they divorce you...  was she 3 feet tall or something?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 22:15 | Link to Comment ChanceIs
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Don't talk to me about gluten.  I developed a wicked cough ten years ago.  Saw the ENT doc.  Told me to stop eating pizza, white bread, etc.  I felt better INSTANTLY.  Cough went away.  I had more energy.  ENT doc told me I probably had a gentic predisposition towards celiac disease, and the gluten bombardment had probably "turned the gene on."  Gluten has sprung up all over the place.  It gives bread a nice consistency but totally hammers the physiology.  Thank you Archers Daniel Midland (sp?).

Refined sugar and modern wheat will be the death of you.  And it will be a slow unpleasant death.  Belly fat, aching joints, volaitile blood sugar, dizziness, bad sleep.  Pass the Pepsi and Cheetos - what's on TV tonight.  I have escaped all of that and hope and pray that you will all do the same.  There is hope.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:06 | Link to Comment Relentless
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Calgary Stampefe starts today and includes such classics as the double bacon corn dog and deep fried butter - I am not kidding you 

http://cs.calgarystampede.com/fun-food/food.html

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:11 | Link to Comment knukles
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What pray tell is one supposed to do with Deep fried Butter, for God's sakes?  Smear it all over one's body?
Good Lord!

 

Hair pomade
Wrestling wax
KY substitute for your sister married to your brother in Alabama
Fly line dressing
Pack wheel bearings

Jesus....

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:09 | Link to Comment HelluvaEngineer
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Dude.  Avatar.  WTF.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:42 | Link to Comment Turin Turambar
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Close, but I think the major culprit is wheat.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:46 | Link to Comment HelluvaEngineer
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How so?  How is heirloom wheat a problem?  Asking because I want to learn.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:51 | Link to Comment Crisismode
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Heirloom wheat is fine.

 

It's the massive amounts of GMO (super high-gluten) wheat that is doing the populace in.

 

 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:48 | Link to Comment el Gallinazo
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Heirloom wheat is not fine, though it's better than the current dwarf wheat which makes up almost all of the crap grown now because it yields so high.  The American cardiologist who wrote Wheat Belly is named William Davis.  He gave a fabulous one hour interview on Red Ice Creations out of Sweden about a year ago where he explains everything.  I am a chemist by background but I learned a whole lot.  Gave up wheat 100% and lost 30 pounds in 6 months and my BP nosedived without any pharmas.  Here is the link to the interview:

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2012/04/RIR-120429.php

 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:50 | Link to Comment Al Huxley
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I've read that Wheat Belly book, and the argument makes sense and probably contributes, but I think I'm still going to go with Occam's razor here, go out on a limb and say that if you're sliding 5000 or 6000 calories of fat and sugar down your throat on a daily basis and burning maybe 2000, you probably don't need to pay a research team to figure out where the weight gain is coming from.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:54 | Link to Comment ZerOhead
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Not shitting enough?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:22 | Link to Comment HelluvaEngineer
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"Eat less, shit more".  I see a New York Times best seller in the making.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:57 | Link to Comment Tijuana Donkey Show
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That's a tricky issue. I lost more weight dropping gluten, and eat more than before. To the body, there is no such thing as a calorie. Try 30 days gluten free, and see how you do.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:24 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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Me too. I wasn't even trying to lose weight, but was merely tired of feeling like shit.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:57 | Link to Comment Tijuana Donkey Show
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That's a tricky issue. I lost more weight dropping gluten, and eat more than before. To the body, there is no such thing as a calorie. Try 30 days gluten free, and see how you do.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:52 | Link to Comment Fred Hayek
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Occam's pastry trowel?

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 00:30 | Link to Comment post turtle saver
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y'know Al, I've given up trying to convince people a calorie is a calorie... they won't listen, it's always gotta be some magic formula or genetic trigger or teh evile glootens or some such thing... here's an idea... eat fewer calories, exercise more

watch how many come on and say "oh yeah, I exercised, I was on an olympic athlete regimen and no effect but when I <insert quack science here> then and only then did I lose weight and feel better"... what those people need to lose is the delusion that they were doing anything at all

we all know the type, "everyone has something", on and on about diet nutrition etc but they're still fat... that's because talking ain't doing and they ain't doing

most of y'all that have weight issues have them because the only workout you get is clicking the mouse, yet you still eat like lumberjacks... see, that's the problem... focus on that first, you can start by using John Wayne's "two hand push" exercise regimen... put two hands on the dinner table, push away from it, one rep

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 15:17 | Link to Comment SpeakerFTD
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I'm sorry, but a calorie is not a calorie.  

The issue is that the microscopic eocsystem in your gut has a profound influence on your metabolism and efficiency at digestion.    Your ability to process incoming calories is variable, depending on the overall health of your gut.

While the issues raised in all the other comments definitely contribute in some meaure to our obesity epidemic, I suspect the obesity epidemic is closely linked to the epidemic in children with severe allergies, and both of the problems are most likely linked to the damage we have done to our internal biome.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:03 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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After years of doing 'whole wheat' everything as a supposedly healthy alternative, finally crashed every major gland in the ol' body and when tested with sprouted wheat bread as a primer, my blood pressure shot to record levels, dropped me to the floor for 30 minutes and took me 8 hours to recover. Removing 90% of wheat and sugar-laden products dropped 20lbs. and no more incidents. On a primal diet path with much improved results.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:31 | Link to Comment el Gallinazo
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The wheat makes you fat and gives you colitis and arthritis.  Monsanto's crap just gives you cancer.  Ever look at the photos of those French lab rats that were fed Monsanto corn their whole lives (two years)?  Tumors the size of plums.  Why take a chance - eat both and be sure to fuck yourself up.  And while you're at it, invite one of those Air Force KC-10's to lay down a nice line of nano aluminum oxide, barium, and strontium along the middle of your roof.  And take a vacation to Fukushima, now rated as 75 times worse globally than Chernobyl and still spewing radioactive isotope shit (strontium 90, iodine 131, and cesium 137) into the Pacific and the West Coast headed jet stream by the truckload.  Forget the yen - Japan is a dead man walking as they glow in the dark.  Their best scientists know it but they have a history of obedience to authority and so keep their mouths shut.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:51 | Link to Comment tarsubil
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I'm convinced it's corn syrup and vegetable oil. The way they manufacture and chemically process that shit means it can't be good for you.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:27 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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Those too. They all add up.

Then there's that soybean shit that is in EVERYTHING.

That's okay though. My daughter is home right now baking GF bread, cookies and crackers to sell at the local farmers market in the morning.

Woke up this morning to a 25 lb. box of almond flour sitting at my door, with the same amount of coconut flour arriving on monday.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:29 | Link to Comment Uber Vandal
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It could also be how a cardio-buster burger costs less than a bag of carrots.

Then again, if if one eats "healthy", how long before the chemicals in the water, air, and soil wind up in each and everyone of us.

Much like the radioactive waste from Hanford may be leaching into the Columbia River.

Much like the radioactive water running out of Fukushima each and every day for the last TWO years.

Much like the oil dispersant in the Gulf of Mexico from the oil well disaster of 2010

Personally, I believe that in the near future, people will wish they were fat, for once the honey bees die off, crops may be a challenge to pollinate.

Indeed, life is killing us.

 

 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:23 | Link to Comment 11b40
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Eat , drink , & be merry - for tomorrow, you may die.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:05 | Link to Comment stocktivity
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Yeah but you may not

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 02:24 | Link to Comment Adahy
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Burger is never free, especially the medical costs down the road.

Bag of carrots can be free. 

Step 1 - Toss seed into soft earth, keep moist until sprouted.

Step 2 - Patience.  Water if in drought.

Step 3 - Pull up yummy carrots.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:31 | Link to Comment GenXer
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New Zealand and Australia don't use corn syrup and have less GMO products and they're just a fraction behind the US

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 08:19 | Link to Comment Bro of the Sorr...
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anyone with weight problems should immediately head to amazon and buy a juicer. juice veggies everyday, beets and carrots two or three times a week. im 5'6'' 150 and have been working out for as long as i can remember, blessed with good genetics. i'm a bit of a health nut, started juicing 6 months ago, no other changes, and ive never felt better in my life. clear and alert all day, no longer drink coffee (stopped without realizing), no ups and downs with energy. circulation has improved (according to my girlfriend, if you catch my drift). only vices were cigarettes and heavy weekend drinking before (live in shanghai and it's a large part of the lifestyle). now i only smoke a few cigarettes while im drinking, way down from before. fresh beet juice on sunday morning is the best hangover remedy i have ever come across--and ive tried them all.

 

watch fat, sick, and nearly dead. everyone should be juicing no matter how good/bad their health.

 

 

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 10:53 | Link to Comment Bastiat
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Or a high speed blender, Vita mix or Blendtec.  You get the juice and the pulp liquified.

 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:39 | Link to Comment B2u
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I gotta think about this, but first I need to stop at McDonalds for some food.  I think I'll supersize it.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:41 | Link to Comment gimli
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Interesting, a Governor Christie for President poll came up right next to this story. A vote for Christie is like voting for two guys in one.

 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:40 | Link to Comment Turin Turambar
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Here's the main reason Americans are fat, and we're exporting it to the rest of the world:

http://www.amazon.com/Wheat-Belly-Lose-Weight-Health/dp/1609611543/ref=s...

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:46 | Link to Comment Atlas_shrugging
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Agree. Read this book and have been low/no wheat for over a year. More benefits than just weight loss. There is definitely something up with the global wheat crop being modified over the years. Recent farmer complaints over Monsanto messing with certain strains only adds fuel to the fire. Worth checking out for your own health

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:09 | Link to Comment kito
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that is definitely one component....but you need to look at the processed foods....all subsidized by uncle sugar...........stay away from high fructose corn syrup, hydrogenated oils, artificial colors, artificial flavors, and chemical preservatives.......these are all markers of poor quality food...............keeping these out of your diet makes a HUGE difference as well..............................

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:22 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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Yep.  Look at the big brand US products in places like Mexico, Italy, Kuwait, etc. and the size of their budgets. Cheap food? Not.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2319825/The-great-global-food-gap-Families-world-photographed-weekly-shopping-reveal-cost-ranges-3-20-320.html

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:33 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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I shop at one store that has a large percentage of immigrants as customers. I never cease to be amazed when I look at their cart and see bag upon bag of fresh produce with hardly any processed items at all. Then I look at the typical local's cart, half full of cases of "diet soda" and boxes of pre-made everything. Usually the only produce I see, if any, is a bunch of bananas.

Meanwhile, the weight of the shopper to the quality of the food correlates PERFECTLY.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:47 | Link to Comment Ignorance is bliss
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I use to travel extensively throughout south America. People were generally slender. I recently returned to some of my old stomping grounds....lots of obesity. Kinda like being in Orlando.

Another case of anecdotal evidence that convinces me food is the culprit, check out the first terminator movie. All the background characters are slender. Try shooting a low budget film like that today. Interesting to see what Amerkia use to look like through the most unexpected of time capsules.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:41 | Link to Comment johnQpublic
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i havent weighed 181 since i was 30

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:36 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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I could've said the same thing until about 3 months ago. Now I'm back to my fighting Jarhead weight. (I even wore the trousers from my uniform last month, as they were the only dress pants I had left that fit.)

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 19:04 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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Someone itchin' fer a fight? :P

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:44 | Link to Comment terryfuckwit
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this is bollucks bmi is totally discredited.. all new zealand rugby players are deemed massively overweight yet they are fitter and stronger than butchers dogs. the indegenous and mixed indegenmous are massive fast and strong. americans are mainly fat bastards like myself ha ha

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:17 | Link to Comment JustObserving
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Waist to height ratio better than BMI

Our waists should be less than half the length of our height, according to a UK expert who believes waist-to-height ratio should replace the standard body mass index (BMI) for judging health and risk of disease.

The waist-to-height ratio is calculated by dividing waist by height, whereas BMI takes a person's weight in kilograms and divides it by their height, squared in meters..

It's believed to be more accurate because abdominal fat is linked with certain diseases.

People with a high waist-to-height ratio, whose waists measure 80 percent of their height, tend die about 17 years earlier than thinner people.

http://health.msn.co.nz/healthnews/8659569/waist-to-height-ratio-more-accurate-than-bmi

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:58 | Link to Comment Tulpa
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Causation, correlation, whatever...

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:41 | Link to Comment world_debt_slave
Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:01 | Link to Comment JustObserving
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26 million diabetic in USA and at least 80 million prediabetic in USA (Type 2 diabetes).  Avoid diabetes easily with the following:

1. Exercise 20 minutes a day. Limit TV Watching to under 3 hours a day.
2. Get Some Sun or Take Vitamin D Supplements
3. Eat Natural Foods (especially Green Foods like Kale, Broccoli and Spinach) and Avoid Processed and Canned Foods and White Bread
4. Manage Your Stress Level
5 Avoid Sugary or Diet Sweet Drinks. Avoid Fruit Juices. Avoid Processed Meats like Sausages, Bacon, Hot Dogs and Ham. Limit Red Meat
6. Keep Waist Size (at navel) Below Half your Height.
7. Eat a Handful of Nuts Everyday (Walnuts or Almonds are best)
8. Eat Breakfast (especially beneficial to men). Do Not Eat Two to Three Hours Before Sleeping
9. Get Adequate Sleep and Have Regular Sleep Hours
10. Take Supplements of Vitamin C, Resveratrol and Magnesium

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 22:30 | Link to Comment Parrotile
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We prefer our resveratrol in liquid form - http://www.boutiquewineries.com.au/wineGlossary/RedWineVarieties.cfm

 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:51 | Link to Comment rats
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Heaviest nation is easily Tonga.

If you have ever been around Tongans you would know why.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:06 | Link to Comment fijisailor
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Nope It's Nauru.  See below

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:58 | Link to Comment Aurora Ex Machina
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Where the fuck is Geldoff and the Boomtown Rats when you need them?

 

[Note: the snark is about a tour, not just about Live Aid]

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:12 | Link to Comment djsmps
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I fluctuate between 155 and 160. I'm 5'11". 61.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:54 | Link to Comment darteaus
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Stat needs to be corrected for age as well.

Since, as we all know, one tends to gain weight as one ages, younger populations will have a smaller weight.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:41 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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Once you give up wheat, you quickly realize the flaw in that theory. I lost 30 lbs in the last year while eating like a pig, making no effort to lose weight.

Are you aware that there are NO biological age markers? That's why doctors (et al.) cannot verify anyone's age other than by using statistical markers.

Guess what? You too can be an outlier, merely by minimizing the damage that accumulates in your body over time.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:00 | Link to Comment fijisailor
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Nauru was missed.  Probably fatter than the US

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 19:08 | Link to Comment rats
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Bula

Figures are based on BMI which is a figure I don't like using especially for pacific Islanders. i.e mass/height. Reason we don't like BMI is that our islanders frames can handle more weight better then other ethnicities. e.g Tongans and Samoans in the NFL.

My experience with Tongans are they are usually taller then the people from Nauru which would have them getting a lower BMI but be heavier on average.

Anyway I suppose the point is that polynesians should really be on top of the list.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:05 | Link to Comment JustObserving
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The highest rate of diabetes is found in Pacific Islanders, where diabetes rates can go as high as nearly one-third of the population, as is the case in the tiny island of Nauru in Micronesia. Arab countries also have very high rates, according to data published by the federation. Nearly a quarter of the adult population in Saudi Arabia has diabetes, according to the latest data.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:03 | Link to Comment kito
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this article is misleading.....the poll was to determine which country is the phattest..............and my government says we are!!! i believe them!!!! happy fourth of july weekend bitchez....happy "dependence (on liquidity...on the govt teat) day"..................................im signing off to go get me some hot dogs......hamburgers.....steaks...............side salads (the fatty mayo laden type)......................mmmmm..........so good.................until we meet again...................in bolivia!!!!!.....................................

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:04 | Link to Comment Tinky
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Just got back from the fridge. Did I miss anything?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 22:33 | Link to Comment Anusocracy
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The intelligence needed to put your fridge next to your easy chair?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:06 | Link to Comment Burticus
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Trust Bloomberg to be full of $#!+, as usual.

Where's the starving Somalians too weak to swat the flies from around their eyes at the top of the skinnies?!

And where's the Samoans at the bottom of the fatties?!  The average Samoan female weighs around 160 pounds.  When my buddy visited me in Hawaii, after seeing a few, he asked whether all the Samoans are that big.  Yes, at least in Hawaii, USSA (where they get free food), and just as ignorant & violent as they are fat.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:06 | Link to Comment Make_Mine_A_Double
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There may a GMO component in there, but it is the seditary lifestyle of TV, games and video that is the primary reason.

At 52 I am in better shape than 85% of 20 year old men. People did not look like a bunch of fucking mutants when I was a kid as they do now. Our human capital has been debased beyond description and it will crush the health care system in this country going forward.

When I fly back into the States from Asia it's like being dropped kicked into McDonald's land - and it keeps on getting worse every year.

 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:32 | Link to Comment Tulpa
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You do realize that every crop grown for human consumption has been "genetically modified" by humans, the only difference is how fast and how reliably the modification was accomplished.  The rice that Cho Blow on the street in Guangzhou is eating is not a variety that occurs naturally, people have been crafting it for 20,000 years.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:09 | Link to Comment Big Corked Boots
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They didn't breed Bt into corn, genius. They spliced that gene in.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:20 | Link to Comment WmMcK
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And into potatoes and cotton.

Bacteria genes in your food and clothes -- and I once thought clamato was too weird.  Fuck Monsanto.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:08 | Link to Comment Fred Hayek
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Yeah, I remember as a little kid, back in the mid and late 70's how at family gatherings all us kids could barely suppress snickers at my Uncle Ray. The guy was probably 5'11" and 220 pounds. We couldn't believe anyone could be so fat. It was ridiculous.

Now, he'd be nothing compared to the dirigibles on two legs you see waddling through any mall. It's even more bizarre to see all the fat kids, not stocky or thickly built but simply fat. It's pathetic. There was a mother with two I'm guessing 10 or 11 year old boys in line behind me at the market the other day and she was ridiculously fat and so were they. Maybe it makes it easier for her to accept how horrible she looks and likely feels but being immobile by age 11 ain't the way to go through life.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:07 | Link to Comment Tinky
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In one narrow respect, the chart is misleading. The only reason that the average weight in New Zealand is high is because of the relatively high number of Pacific Islanders who have immigrated and settled there. They are genetically prone to being on the heavy side, though more than a few are admittedly overweight as well.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:21 | Link to Comment Tulpa
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True, but you could lower the US BMI stats too if you excluded certain racial demographics.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:26 | Link to Comment Tinky
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Obesity is much more widespread in the U.S., and for obvious reasons. Most New Zealanders eat far healthier and get far more exercise than their American counterparts.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:38 | Link to Comment Tulpa
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Average US BMI is about 1.21, or 4%, higher than NZ's.  It's really not a big difference.  I see a lot of beached whales in Walmart, true, but I also see a lot of fit people running on the sidewalk.

It would be interesting to see a chart of the standard deviation of BMI -- the US would probably be much higher than countries with more homogeneous populations.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:11 | Link to Comment Sechel
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Surprised to see the Swiss are so thin, considering their diet has so much cheese, dairy & chocolate.  I guess exercise trumps diet.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:48 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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Assuming it's the right cheese, dairy and chocolate, there's health benefits to be had in consuming those foods.

I drink heavy whipping cream every morning in my coffee (along with black-strap molasses), usually have some aged cheese made from Amish whole milk (like at this very instant), and make my own "candy bars" at my desk with bakers chocolate, coconut, cinammon, honey (bees live next door), sunflower seeds and whatever else I find that day.

For lunch I had bacon wrapped chicken breast. Or as I call it diet bacon!

Tomorrow, I'm going to make GF bacon cookies!!!!!!!

http://www.primalpalate.com/recipe/infamous-bacon-cookies/

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:54 | Link to Comment JustObserving
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Consumption of Red Meat and Processed Meats Increases Diabetes Risk Sharply

Every 1 serving a day increase in red meat consumption increased diabetes risk by 26%, for bacon by 73%, for hot dogs by 49% and for total processed meats by 43%.

Positive associations were also observed between type 2 diabetes and red meat and other processed meats. The relative risk for diabetes for every 1-serving increase in intake is 1.26 (95% CI, 1.21-1.42) for red meat, 1.38 (95% CI, 1.23-1.56) for total processed meats, 1.73 (95% CI, 1.39-2.16) for bacon, 1.49 (95% CI, 1.04-2.11) for hot dogs, and 1.43 (95% CI, 1.22-1.69) for processed meats.

http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=217599

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 19:08 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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Hot dogs??? I won't feed them to my dogs.

Nor do I eat "processed" meats.

I do however, eat as much grass-fed, antibiotic-free beef as I can afford.

My bacon, for instance is also uncured.

There is nothing wrong with eating healthy meat. The problem lies in finding an affordable source.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:48 | Link to Comment lenitivelea
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Or it could be that the diet is superior. The benefits of high-fat, low-carb are pretty well documented.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:11 | Link to Comment FleaMarketPete
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lol save some food for the rest of us New Zealand...

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:32 | Link to Comment groundedkiwi
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NZ is getting theirs under control. Lots of Asian immigrants arriving to bring those stats down.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:18 | Link to Comment Tulpa
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Lies, damn lies, and statistics.  Yet another misleading chart from ZH.  BMI, not raw weight, is the actual statistic related to obesity, but the US is fifth in BMI, not first.  So they ranked countries by average weight, which puts the US on top because Americans have a higher average height than the top four BMI countries (Tonga, Micronesia, Samoa, and Kuwait).

THese days, it seems Tyler never lets the truth get in the way of bashing America.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:20 | Link to Comment A. Magnus
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BMI is a bullshit index just like the CPI; it makes no disctinction between weight in fat or muscle, which is why at 5'7", 170 lbs and able to do over 75 push-ups at a stretch I am considered borderline obese by the BMI.

BMI = Banker Mangled Index

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:26 | Link to Comment Tulpa
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For individuals it's basically worthless for the reasons you state.  It's popular with government agencies because it justifies more intervention into our private lives, and it's popular with doctors and nutritionists because it allows them to be lazy -- much easier to look up a number on a chart rather than carefully evaluate a person's health.

But for large populations, which is what it was originally intended to be used for, BMI is a pretty good metric, as the problems with individuals tend to cancel each other out.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:28 | Link to Comment Aurora Ex Machina
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An economics blog where someone understands statistics over a population, and isn't referencing personal weight?

 

Heresy, heresy, heresy!

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:49 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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Simmah down, naw!

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:31 | Link to Comment Sechel
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True about BMI, but take a trip to Disney Land and you'll be treated to a parade of the most obese Americans from all walks of life. No, not talking about the crew at Disney but the tourists. Leave Manhattan and travel the country and you'll see that on average the country is quite obese

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:39 | Link to Comment world_debt_slave
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Fat, Dumb, Medicated and Addicted in Amerika!

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:39 | Link to Comment Caput Lupinum
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Reading all these comments has made me hungry. I'm off to Wendys

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