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Are The 1970s Coming Back?

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The mid-1970s have been a useful template for what is possible (and even probable) in a centrally-planned world. As a reminder, the underlying backdrop was also similar (major economic downturn following the housing crashes in 1974-75 and again in 2006-2007 followed by aggressive Fed policy which was ultimately too loose for too long). It is quite clear, Citi notes, that the rally in the Dow has lasted longer than the “road map” would have suggested - at least in part driven by the ongoing expansion of the Fed’s Balance sheet - but with Taper talk increasing we wonder how long before the 70s are back in vogue.



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Fri, 07/05/2013 - 15:48 | 3724545 BadDog
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I hope not, they sucked the first time around.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 15:51 | 3724557 WmMcK
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Don't look at that picture (especially the teeth) too long, it will drain your energy.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:03 | 3724597 ZerOhead
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1970's?... Nope.

Try 1870's...


The Crisis in America

Before this the United States had seen an era of unprecedented prosperity. Housing and construction boomed. Shops were full of customers. Prices of commodities reached new levels.


Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:03 | 3724607 Totentänzerlied
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Except that this time around there's no equivalent of crude oil to stick-save the planet.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:08 | 3724618 WmMcK
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I thought it might be a call to go long railroads.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:09 | 3724623 Flakmeister
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That already happened, look at the charts of UNP, CSX, CP, CNI....

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 19:29 | 3725200 BLOTTO
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I'm more pessimistic then all of you...ive gone back to 10th century.


How about the Dark Ages?


Where paganism, unmoral, filth, occult, zombies, magic, thieves and liars ruled...sound familiar?

It was so shit - they just called it dark.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:08 | 3725323 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Where paganism, unmoral, filth, occult, zombies, magic, thieves and liars ruled...sound familiar?

"We're there, dude."

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 00:31 | 3725851 pagan
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Paganism? The Dark Ages was the high time of Christianity. Christianity made it the Dark ages.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 01:16 | 3725894 Flakmeister
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I wouldn't say it was responsible, but once "lighter" prospects emerged with the Renaissance it show as hell tried to pull the blinds back down...

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 02:24 | 3725939 The_Dude
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Or maybe the Christians saved it from oblivion....


the old order and power of the Roman Empire had completely disintegrated and when illiterate, pagan, barbaric hordes, who were devoid of understanding the Greco-Roman heritage, were rearranging Europe. While Greece lay in ruins and Rome was being pillaged and plundered, the best of their accomplishments were preserved only in books.


Sat, 07/06/2013 - 05:29 | 3725996 pagan
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Huh? The Greeks and the Romans were the pagans. Christianity destroyed the high-culture of Antiquity.

Christianity is an alien Jewish from the middle-east.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 15:25 | 3726705 sun tzu
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Huh? Europe has been Christian for the past 800 years and just by coincidence perhaps has been at the forefront of the civilized world for the past 800 years. Why do you think so many European flags have crosses on them? If you claim Christianity is backwards, then Europe is backwards. 

The high culture of Greek antiquity was throwing babies off cliffs. The high culture of Roman antiquity was gladiator fights. Men poking little boys up the ass was also very popular and accepted back then. 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:57 | 3725611 icanhasbailout
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go long asteroids

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:09 | 3726323 The_Dude
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1970's California vs. The 3rd world, socialist cesspool it is today


Nope...never coming back....

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:01 | 3724807 tarsubil
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LOL. I was going to say get rid of the '1'. More like 970s. I knew I should have bought that damn sword and maile.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:31 | 3724867 ZerOhead
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Ah yes the 970's... when men were men and sheep (and everyone else pretty much) were scared.

If your trying out the 970's 'Eurotrash' look don't forget that Norsemen never actually had horns set in their helmets OK?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:39 | 3724909 WmMcK
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And a couple of Pope Benedict's to boot.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:57 | 3724978 francis_sawyer
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Gas, Grass, or Ass... Nobody rides for free...

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:40 | 3725079 Chupacabra-322
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"If the vans a rock'n don't come a knock'n"

Well, I don't mind a natural lady every now & again.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:09 | 3725327 TheFourthStooge-ing
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"Arrive Stoned"

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:24 | 3725517 Thee Barbarous Relic
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Ya know the difference between the 1870s and the 1970s?
In the 1870s a dildo was a steely dan, in the 1970s two dildos were Steely Dan.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:25 | 3725520 Thee Barbarous Relic
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Ya know the difference between the 1870s and the 1970s?
In the 1870s a dildo was a steely dan, in the 1970s two dildos were Steely Dan.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:14 | 3726389 Cathartes Aura
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ahhh, funny you should mention the 1870's ZerOhead, as indeed there are similars to this time. . .

the correlation of Uranus aspecting Pluto is apparent when amrka goes to Great Wars, and experiences Great Depressions - 1870s? great depression - anyone curious to look into these patterns might start with this article, which notes,

Uranus-Pluto squares that simultaneously formed harsh angles to key points in the USA's horoscope have marked major turning points in American history,

1620s: African slaves introduced to Jamestown Colony
1670s: Bacon's Rebellion in Virginia Colony
1870s: Great Depression
1930s: Great Depression

we are currently in a strong Uranus/Pluto square, with Uranus stationed to go retrograde (revisiting past degrees moved through) on the 17/18 July, which means the energy of sudden events that undermine set institutions/beliefs is very active just now. . .seeing the patterns helps re-cognise where we are, and perhaps where we're headed.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:32 | 3724713 Dingleberry
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The 70s had regrettable moments like disco, bell bottom pants, untrimmed beavers, pornstaches, coke lines & corduroy pants.


But at least the boobs back then were all REAL.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:48 | 3724751 wee-weed up
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And don't forget the long pointy-collar shirts and fat wide ties to go with those corduroy bellbottom pants.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:30 | 3724882 mofreedom
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you know obama hated that 70s attire, he preferred the hoop rings in the nose and a loin clothe made of old new york times.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:01 | 3724984 toxic8
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Subliminal SEX in the hair - can you see it?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:45 | 3724754 McMolotov
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I was but a mere zygote as the '70s came to a close. Were the chicks all bra-less back then? I wouldn't mind that coming back.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:53 | 3724769 wee-weed up
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Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:05 | 3725461 mjcOH1
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"I was but a mere zygote as the '70s came to a close. Were the chicks all bra-less back then? I wouldn't mind that coming back."

Keep in mind your average 20 yr old girl had one chin rather than 3 in 1975. Let's just hand out the hot pokers now so we can all put out our eyes.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 22:05 | 3725628 IrritableBowels
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“Here's somthing you never hear someone say: 'As soon as I stick this red hot poker up my ass i'm going to chop my dick off'.”

George Carlin (RIP)

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 07:57 | 3726053 espirit
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In the 70's, sex was pretty much free with no worries of std's.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 02:18 | 3725928 kareninca
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In 2010, the obesity rate for American males was 32.2 percent.  For American females, 35.5 percent.  Per Wikipedia.

Gross fat American dudes, just as much.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:53 | 3724785 WmMcK
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Not all of them, and definitely not all the right ones.

Halter tops (and split skirts especially around the WTC's  ) were worth the price of admission, though.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:15 | 3725490 FEDbuster
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Tube tops, too.

Led Zeppelin and full auto weapons were still legal (and relatively cheap) to buy.

Of course we had Nixon, Ford and Carter, so politicians still sucked.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 08:00 | 3726057 espirit
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Those were the days.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:57 | 3724791 Dingleberry
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Bottom line is back then chicks were buxom at worst, in shape at best, and you knew what you were looking at wasn't fake

If you are younger than 30, all you know is fat, as it is accepted now as normal. It wasn't back then.  

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:19 | 3725502 FEDbuster
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Let's not forget the "70's bush" look was still the norm.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 15:28 | 3726711 sun tzu
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That's one thing we don't need

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:02 | 3724797 DaveyJones
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and Travolta's only runway had screaming Australians on it

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:02 | 3724809 WmMcK
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The pre-implant era.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:04 | 3724816 DaveyJones
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oops, I switched on you

goddamn lawyers

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:51 | 3724948 Promethus
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The real boobs moved from women's chests to politics and banking.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 19:06 | 3725162 DaveyJones
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no, they were always there..but like the others, they just got more false, inflated, and dependent on high paid experts.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 19:00 | 3725150 duo
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Yea, that disco music sucked so bad that rappers today have to re-use tracks from that era.

Long the Bee-Gees, Heatwave, Curtis Blow, Sugarhill Gang, and of course, Earth, Wind and Fire.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 23:16 | 3725725 PT
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Sat, 07/06/2013 - 01:08 | 3725881 Dingleberry
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for the record: I LOVE disco, the Brothers Gibb in particular.  Vast majority today are "2 kool" for that. Hence "regrettable". 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:47 | 3725585 roonbox
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Akmost all of your regrettables are awesome, I'll take it all back part from untrimmed beavers, and even those occasionally for novelty

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 00:02 | 3725798 MontgomeryScott
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I saved the picture, Tylers.

DAMN, the NIPPLES on this former wife of Lee Majors...

I was TOO CHEAP to actually buy the poster (nah, kidding! I have it on the wall in the basement).

There was this one episode of the 'Six Million Dollar Man' where 'Colonel Steve Austin' meets up with an old girlfriend (Farah Fawcett-Majors)...

The PTB decided that she wasn't a good enough actress, and hired some other skinny blonde with far less impressive tits to play out the last years of this dying diatribe of 'mass consumption'. It was a chick married to Lyle Wagonner, i think. Lindsay Wagner?

Lindsay had a fairly nice body, as well, but her tits were too small. She was a 'posterchild' for the 'IBTC' (ittie Bitty Tittie Committee').


'That 70's Show' really sucks, you know. NO SENSE of REALITY.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 15:49 | 3724550 Yellowhoard
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Stagflation coming soon.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:17 | 3724646 Pool Shark
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10-Year yield up to 2.72%

only another 14% to go...


Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:59 | 3724798 Spigot
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Dear God. Another 4 bips and that into the close on a Friday. 2.72% That's not Asia selling, that's our dolts. Shit.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:06 | 3724822 WmMcK
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My mortgage is now 1 bip above the 10 year.  It's over 40 years

(and ~ 1100 bips) since the last time I could truthfully say that.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 15:49 | 3724552 FieldingMellish
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This would then be the point where gold, after having dropped from $200 to $100, took off over the next 4 years to $800.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 15:54 | 3724572 seek
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Which, if repeated, would put AU around $9600/oz in 4 years or so -- mid 2017. Sounds about right.

Unfortunately unlike the 70s, a Volcker move of 15% interest rates would implode US Treasury, and the financial system along with it. So instead we'll see rates of a couple percent and hyperinflation, followed by repudiation and a new dollar, assuming the republic stays intact.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:03 | 3724606 derek_vineyard
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a 2.5% 30 year up to 4.0% is the same magnitude of rate hike

the guy down the street that bought the house for 350K cash and is getting 1500/month rent was obviously calibrating his investment off the 2.5% 30 year (that investmment group bought 100 million of homes in this area ...i was told)

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:03 | 3724814 Scro
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Dern that's cheap. My taxes alone on +/- 400k house is over $1000 per month.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:11 | 3724834 DaveyJones
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seek and you shall find the future

as long as the middle class can keep their ridiculously large master bedrooms. There's no one to buy them anyways

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 15:51 | 3724560 chubbyjjfong
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The 90's was an unforgiving decade, the 80's was fantastic but the 70's was the greatest of them all! Welcome back!

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:05 | 3724613 Stuck on Zero
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Disco was so cool.  I hope it comes back.


Fri, 07/05/2013 - 19:06 | 3725164 Andy Lewis
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Fuckin' A.,

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:19 | 3724649 Ignatius
Fri, 07/05/2013 - 15:51 | 3724562 DosZap
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I hope not, they sucked the first time around.

Not for me, I would take them over this SHIT any day.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 23:57 | 3725784 Overpowered By Funk
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No shit. The music was way better -Stones, Zep, T-Rex, Bowie, Clash, Ramones - but the Leisure Suits man! The Leisure Suits...

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 15:51 | 3724563 ebworthen
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Imagine rates at 10%-15% as they were in the 70's.

This Ponzi economy would totally collapse.

Go ahead Ben, Taper and raise the rates, let's go to 4% on the 10 Year T-Bill.

I keep hearing people say it's good for the economy, and far below rates in the past when the economy was growing.

Um...sure...there is so much productive career employment out there to support higher rates.

And we haven't even mentioned what happens to the debt with higher rates.

C'mon Ben, raise rates, and send me my $3 Million "Stimulus".

We'll call it PBS's, People Backed Securities.

I'll spend some, and tip well.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 15:55 | 3724576 granolageek
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Come on back 70s. Liked them way better than this mess.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:13 | 3724616 ebworthen
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Huggy Bear agrees:

(link opens in new window/tab)

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:44 | 3724929 NumberNone
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Fri, 07/05/2013 - 15:56 | 3724582 Make_Mine_A_Double
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I've got my flares and rolling papers at the ready.......bring it. The 18% interest rates? Not so much.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 15:58 | 3724586 kito
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template in a very general way.....perhaps stagflation.....because what comes after this next downturn wont be a paul volcker raising rates.....not unless the govt doesnt mind paying half of its revenue to interest on the national debt....which will be 23 trillion in 2107....

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:13 | 3724636 fonzannoon
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I got into a conversation with a dude on another site regarding fed tapering. He explained his situation this way.

"You asked about my situation on a post earlier, so I'll tell you my tale of woe :)

I paid $380k for a newbuild home in March. I make about $180k. The home will be completed in approximately 6 months, so the closing will likely occur in September or October, and I will lock-in rates 30 days before the closing. When I signed the contract for the home, I had to put 3.5% down for materials and earnest money, but I can't lock in financing until the closing, which can't occur until the home is built and the home passes all the necessary inspections. So walking away would leave me out 15-20k (the earnest money). Almost certainly not happening.

Unfortunately, I pretty much pegged the market bottom when I signed. I had pre-approval for a 30 year mortgage with zero points and financing fees for 3.3%. Wells Fargo is now offering a 30 year at 5.05%! Damn! Bond market has sold off with a vengence; I really hope treasuries rally. The "taper" talk caught me totally off guard, especially with inflation and demand seemingly still so low.

Thanks for listening,


I think a lot of people are in this dude's spot.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:39 | 3724737 kito
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im sure there are.....but the bernank doesnt give a shit about his type....... since his kind has not been whats driving the housing market........its been cash buyers at the top....and cash buyers at the lots of multifamily in the nyc metro suburbs, my house is in the upper middle in terms of price....... and my housing price is still below 2003......perhaps the bernank was more concerned about lowering the debt burden of current underwater maintaing lower rates.....perhaps he feels that he has done enough now........granted, i dont see it........but hey, i dont have a phd and never taught economics at princeton!!!..............what do i know????

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:39 | 3724738 NotApplicable
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Blows my mind that people are still building their dream houses, when the reality is a nightmare.

So... did you suggest he go double or nothing on an ARM?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:44 | 3724748 fonzannoon
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I wished him luck.

It seems like we all are going to need it.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:05 | 3724817 kito
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so fonz, whats your break the back interest rate target? 4%?.....everybody on here who has cried that any creep up interest rates will be the death of the fed.....has been put to still waiting..............and you notice not a peep from the telling you, if the 30 mortgage rate continues to stay solidly above 5 percent for the rest of the year...and housing numbers continue upwards...and stocks continue throwing this fucking laptop out the window along with zerohedge....i will go back to being a sheep...blindly listening to whatever the bernank says because perhaps there is no more logic to the world.........perhaps the bernank has figured out alchemy............

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:52 | 3724954 fonzannoon
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i think the 10yr is more important in the derivative market. 4% may blow some people up. You put mortgage rates above 5% and all sorts of explosives go off.

It's the 2yr and the 5yr that is really interesting. The U.S finances it's debt in shorter term instruments. The Bernak knows he has to print his ass off if need be to keep those rates down.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:38 | 3725397 Blano
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But fonz,

Isn't that what people said about the 10y at 2.26, then 2.50?  Not trying to start an argument with you (I'd probably lose), but so far this is just looking like another one of those predictions falling by the wayside.  Thanks.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:29 | 3725533 fonzannoon
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I was not one of those people. Believe me, I hear you. I felt rates could get here. Maybe even go higher.

Don't let this stuff get to you. It's not so much about a number. Bigger picture, oil and interest rates marching higher eviscerate what is left of this phony economy.

it takes a while for all this debt to roll over. so the impact is not immediate. But this whole thing is a bug heading for a windshield. 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:44 | 3724749 Seer
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"Unfortunately, I pretty much pegged the market bottom when I signed."

Trying to hit tops and bottoms is a fool's game...

I sold mid 2005 (which happened to be the national tops [US], though not in my area- it kept going up for another year or so).  I bought (real property this time- Ag land) Fall of 2010.  Based on historical numbers I'd say that I have beaten the averages.

That guy should reassess things.  Get out of it, negotiate for a smaller penalty (pretty common), though at that salary I don't think there would be much sympathy (and anyone shelling out a ton of money for property that's NOT Ag is a fool- really, "I got a great deal on a McMansion"?).  And how sound is that $180k/yr job?  In the future a $15k-$20k loss might seem rather small...

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:09 | 3724830 Matt
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It's ok, if interest rates rise >10% (absolute not relative) everyone will dump them, forcing the fed to buy all the treasuries, so all the interest on the treasuries will just come back to the Treasury department one year later. Relax, everything is under control. Nobody panic.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 15:58 | 3724592 TheGermanGuy
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Back to the 70´s? Short Gillette !!!

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:24 | 3724862 caribbeanbarry
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And long Mood Rings...

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:03 | 3724595 EclecticParrot
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Ah, memories of being a teenager in the 70s, especially the odd melange that was Top 40 radio.  Anyone remember this silly classic, updated for today's events? :

Clap for the Fed-man

He’s gonna raise your index high

Clap for the Fed Man

You’re gonna dig him till the day you die

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:04 | 3724608 WmMcK
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Mmm, yes gracious.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:00 | 3724601 Overfed
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Only the bad parts.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:10 | 3724626 Rustysilver
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Be careful what you wish for.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:11 | 3724629 Flakmeister
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The '70s are going to seem like the good old days, hell, at least then the average schmo had some leverage when it came to wage increases....

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:12 | 3724632 debtor of last ...
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I was sucking tits in the seventies.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:16 | 3724643 WmMcK
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Pre-aids, I was doing a lot more than that.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:21 | 3725034 stormsailor
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college 77 through 81, oh my god.  i racked up a score of more than 500 bareback.  no babies or problems.  and i had that poster on my room at my parents house,  (it was the nipples).

best moment of the 70's was the allman brothers enlightened rogue world tour.  blowing up disco.  although i got a lot of poon dancing to "its ladies night and your feeling right"


the most money i made on summer jobs between academy and cruise was placer mining for gold. i still know where it is, and when it gets real i'll crank up my new keene dredge and work it like production.  guarantee my production cost will not be 1100 per ounce.


as to leisure suits?  i never ever wore one and didn't want one, however, i got home from a national eagle scout association meeting in washington my junior year in high school on a late saturday night before easter sunday, and to my absolute horror, my mother had gone out and bought me a pale yellow double-knit leisure suit complete with the flowered nylon shirt and white patent leather shoes and belt.


son of a bitch,  so i pretty much had to wear it.  i would have killed anyone near with a camera.  thank god there were dozens of even more men and teenagers dressed in them.  


does anybody remember how free we were back then.  as long as you were not harming anyone you could do nearly anthing, and nobody cared.  any empty lot could be a football or baseball field.  you could hunt nearly anywhere as long as it wasn't posted.  10 year olds had shotguns,  every boy in school had a pocket knife.   if you were underage,  you could get somebody to get you a beer,  do you remember when one beer would get you lit up like a firefly, lol  


i wish i could do the 70's all over,  and as to the stock market,  i could have cared less back then, i was busy putting a duel line double pumper spread bore holly on my 455 pontiac can-am.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:45 | 3725412 Blano
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My hero!!! Re: 500.  I'd probably need to take the zeroes off.

College 78 to 82, that was fun, for sure.


Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:17 | 3724647 Bastiat
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Me too but not for food.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:45 | 3724753 Seer
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A newborn?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:44 | 3724927 debtor of last ...
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Read the title, after that read my comment. And do it again. And you sad traders wanna beat the central banks, longface, and hft?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:11 | 3725014 Landrew
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So was I being 16.


Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:44 | 3725410 williambanzai7
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Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:12 | 3724635 sgorem
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we publicly PROTESTED the shit the usgov tried to shove down our throats in the 60's. many times violently. when the fucking seventies came along, the masses were into designer drugs and the Spirit left them for disco. the usgov started their con, in force with Tricky Dick. he was sacked, along with his fucking money making War, but the usgov had it's template. now, after 30 years of prevasive persuasion, the banks, the military, big pharma, oil gluttonies, and the usgov have coalesced into the monster we have today. they've got the money, the military, and the madness. seen any good riots in the good ole ussa lately? thought not.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:44 | 3724750 NotApplicable
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Your protests were designed and sponsored by the Rockefellers in an effort to undermine the natural stability of society (in a further effort to ensure the sheeple "needed" fedgov's loving care).

Look around you, and you might notice how well the con has worked.

Sorry friend, but like most all movements, it was co-opted and run into the ground in fits of incoherence, ON PURPOSE.




Repeat ad infinitum.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:49 | 3724765 Seer
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So, the Rockefellers figured that having people tune in and drop out was to their benefit?  And all the folks who went back to the land?  Yes, I understand that things always get co-opted, but I hardly figure that most of what spawned in the 60s was any sort of per-orchestration.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:00 | 3725374 GoinFawr
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"Following the rights movement you clamped down with your iron fist... drugs became conveniently available for all the kids..." SOAD

Brave New World was first published in 1932, and Babbit a decade before that.

It's all been

"...under the spreading Chestnut tree. I sold you and you sold me..."

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:21 | 3726400 Cathartes Aura
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one quick skim of this thread proves how perfect the distractions were, in capturing the minds and focusing on the feelies. . .

nary a mention of Nixon taking amrka off the gold standard, of Kissinger "opening the door" to China, and the subsequent moves of the Rothschilds into that nationstate, plus many other more subtle economic & political power-grabs.

yes, the 70's were a decade of massive distractions - sex sells, there will always be buyers.

of course, the clickbait pic sets the tone.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:13 | 3724637 Mr. Hudson
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OPEC didn't sell their oil for U.S. dollars in the mid-70s. There was no demand at that time for U.S. dollars except for trade. Now, as long as OPEC sells their oil for FRNs, there will always be a demand for the dollar, and the dollar will remain "King of the Fiats". The Fed can keep property values propped up for a long, long time.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:18 | 3724651 sgorem
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Opec was taking Silver Trade Bars, along with Gold up until Nixon crushed and defaulted on the PM's. Thus establishing the US Dollar as the go to fiat.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:33 | 3724717 Flakmeister
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Do you simply make shit up? Or is your understanding of recent history really that bad?

Nixon crushed PMs????? Fucking news to me, along with silver bars and OPEC...

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:16 | 3724847 sgorem
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should I just call you "FlakeMaster", or how 'bout "Minny Red Arrows", because you're as worthless as tits on a boar hog. I apologize, but you've mistaken me for someone who gives a fuck about the incoherent, incessant drivel spewing from that fucking hole on the front of your skull. repack it with some more shit before you bellow again, thanks in advance.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 00:09 | 3724891 Flakmeister
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You do seem to have a remarkable aversion to anything that might be factual...

A proper rebuttal would contain some evidence that your orginal statement was correct, all I see is a rant bordering on verbal diarrhea as if spewed from a grumpy old man...

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:30 | 3724709 Flakmeister
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Good god, how wrong can one person be....

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:27 | 3725372 JFKFC
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I can't believe that you're getting neg'd for posting factual history. I would suggest ZH readers check out a book called Confessions of an Economic Hitman, by John Perkins.

If you like the no bullshit skinny that ZH gives you, you're gonna love that book. Plus, it'll learn you some about the history of petrodollars.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:20 | 3724648 CaptainSpaulding
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I better reserve my seats for Emerson Lake and Palmer's Pictures at an exibition

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:22 | 3724669 Winston Smith 2009
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Much prefer Trilogy and their 1st album, Emerson, Lake and Palmer.  The pioneers in electronic music synthesis in rock music using the Moog synth.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:48 | 3724687 CaptainSpaulding
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Trilogy is my favorite ELP album by far. It was beautifully recorded and arranged. Tarkus is a close second. When Eddy Offord left the scene in 1973, It wasn't the same ELP even though Brain salad Surgery was a hit.. JMO

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:58 | 3725144 Isotope
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Ah Brain salad Surgery, great cover art.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:38 | 3724730 Flakmeister
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There is some serious talent on display in "Take a Pebble"....

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:23 | 3724843 Winston Smith 2009
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Definitely, along with "Trilogy," "From the Beginning," and "The Endless Enigma Pts 1 & 2" from their Trilogy album.

Seriously need to get an MMJ card...

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 04:50 | 3725844 CaptainSpaulding
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Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:23 | 3724678 WmMcK
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 Ah, in the days before the phrase "Brain Salad Surgery" was associated with oral sex.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:19 | 3724658 Winston Smith 2009
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Disco Sucks!

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:24 | 3724684 sbenard
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I remember the stagflation from that era!

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:49 | 3725416 SKY85hawk
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-           The effectiveness of monetary policy was last discredited in the 1970s. The persistent attempts to revive growth with easy money led to stagflation.  The real world has turned to be opposite to the favored positions of the economics profession: the financial market is not only inefficient but systematically bubble-prone. 

Trying to bring back yesterday through monetary growth will eventually bring inflation, not growth.  This is what the Gov’t wants in order to ‘pay off the Debt’. 


Who remembers the 70's? 

It was a time of Stagflation.

The 'Bob Hope" generation entered their 'spend less-save more' life stage.  OUR Parents!

It should be clear that the baby-boom is in the same life-stage.

Not one Politician will admit they are helpless to restart Economic Growth! 

They will wait this thing out, just like before.

Even if it takes 11 to 15 years!

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:27 | 3724698 EclecticParrot
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Regarding the Farrah Fawcett poster, forensic experts studying these historic artifacts have discovered a persistent phenomenon:  they nearly always find only one set of fingerprints from only ONE of the possible two hands and, purely by coincidence, the 88% LEFT-handed prints they've discovered corresponds precisely to the percentage men who are RIGHT-handed.  This mystery remains unexplained to this day . . .      :)

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:17 | 3724851 Winston Smith 2009
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Along with enough desiccated spermatozoa to produce the Earth's human population many times over.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:50 | 3724920 EclecticParrot
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ZH readers who weren't at least 11 or 12 years old when this poster was released in 1976 may think we're being sophomoric, but in truth it was an absolute phenomenon.  The seventies were more conservative than people think, and I can remember classmates getting in trouble for bringing this 'obscene' poster to catholic school, even though she's fully covered in a 1-piece (not even a bikini!), just because the breast anatomy was visible due to the swimsuit's material.  Christ, I remember hearing in the local news that some stores wouldn't sell it to minors -- this is nearly 10 years after the Summer of Love !  Anyway, I assume its clear spot as the greatest whack-off catalyst in the history of mankind may have contributed to Tyler's selecting it.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:50 | 3725419 Bollixed
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"Anyway, I assume its clear spot as the greatest whack-off catalyst in the history of mankind may have contributed to Tyler's selecting it."

No disrespect to the lovely lady, but I thought the Tyler's selecting it had something to do with America metaphorically dying of anal cancer...

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:20 | 3725480 GoinFawr
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Steve Martin called: he wants his material back, including the banjo strings.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:28 | 3724700 GrinandBearit
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Farrah didn't have big tits, but she sure had great nipples.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:36 | 3724722 starman
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getting laid was easy in the 70's just like getting laid off these days 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:41 | 3724740 Tsar Pointless
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Listening to some good disco music as I type and thinking of how much I wish we could go back to the 1970s.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:55 | 3724783 Seer
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Take a plane ride to Manila... (they seem to have captured a lot of 70s-era motorcycles and old music and glittery things)

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 19:14 | 3725183 Andy Lewis
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There's plenty of it on YouTube.  Just search on "chic" or "sledge".

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:52 | 3724773 YouThePeople
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Bring back the music scene of 70-76 and I'm on that bus. An incredible time to be young!

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:55 | 3724786 Seer
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Ken? Ken Kesey, is that you?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:58 | 3724793 KickIce
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Let's see, we lost the gold standard.  The stick save was made when Reagan announced deficits no longer matter and the cold war with the Soviets.

So what asset bubble can save us now?

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 15:00 | 3726658 Not My Real Name
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The stick save was the birth of the petrodollar.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:52 | 3724953 dark pools of soros
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how did ZH not use the picture of her when she freaked everyone out and painted herself in gold.. all by herself

and if you want to see Farrah sparkle go watch her episode on the dating game



Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:11 | 3725017 LawsofPhysics
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Interest rates cannot rise, this is not the 70's, please, stop being stupid people.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:13 | 3726387 Fred123
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Yeah, and gold will never see 1500 again....dollar up, interest rates up, stock market up, gold down.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:19 | 3725028 orangegeek
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The 70s was full of big salads.


Today everything is nice and smooth.


No one likes hairy beef curtains.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:30 | 3725059 stormsailor
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man can you not remember how turned on you got when you pulled off a girls bikini at the beach and had all that pale bikini shaped skin and a pretty trimmed bush.  what a turn on.   probably sounds stupid now, but back then before internet porn.  that sight could really get you going.


anybody remember looking forward to the new sears roebuck catalog?


if you do, can you imagine if you would have had a victoria's secret catalog back then?  god you would probably be dead from dehydration, hahahahahahhahahaahhah.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:25 | 3725518 cbxer55
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I did not need no Victoria's Secret catalog back then. My dad had a basement workshop wall-papered in Playboy and Penthouse centerfolds. And the magazines they came from in an unlocked file cabinet. I drank a lot of water and milk back in them days. ;-)

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:46 | 3725584 stormsailor
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not here man, my parents were puritans and sex didn't exist,  such was groing up in a small south carolina town.


my great uncle gave my father every playboy from the beginning to july 68 in a big brown bag and i saw them hide it..  i built a wall out of suitcases, got in the rear seat of that big old canary yellow country squire station wagon with that little light on (it was dark) and had the time of my life, course i was only seven and had no clue why i liked it so much, but i knew the future was going to be awesome,  that was the best 8 hour trip i ever took in that station wagon.


got my feeling hurt real bad about 2 years later,  the girl i followed around and who showed me so much kindness and affection when i was 4 and 5 years old (she was 14 or 15) made the cover of playboy,  i felt rage, jealousy, pain, etc.........


by the time i needed those playboys, about 12.  they were long gone.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 19:27 | 3727119 dark pools of soros
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buy your wife or gf something from victoria secret and you'll get free sunshine softcore spam in your inbox for the rest of your life

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:55 | 3725133 the 300000000th...
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Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:49 | 3725417 SKY85hawk
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-           The effectiveness of monetary policy was last discredited in the 1970s. The persistent attempts to revive growth with easy money led to stagflation.  The real world has turned to be opposite to the favored positions of the economics profession: the financial market is not only inefficient but systematically bubble-prone. 

Trying to bring back yesterday through monetary growth will eventually bring inflation, not growth.  This is what the Gov’t wants in order to ‘pay off the Debt’. 


Who remembers the 70's? 

It was a time of Stagflation.

The 'Bob Hope" generation entered their 'spend less-save more' life stage.  OUR Parents!

It should be clear that the baby-boom is in the same life-stage.

Not one Politician will admit they are helpless to restart Economic Growth! 

They will wait this thing out, just like before.

Even if it takes 11 to 15 years!

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:17 | 3725499 Thee Barbarous Relic
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Ya know the difference between the 1870s and the 1970s?
In the 1870s a dildo was a steely dan, in the 1970s two dildos were Steely Dan

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 00:46 | 3725861 Beard of Zeus
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I hope so.

I miss Studflation.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 03:11 | 3725959 10mm
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And the Philadelphia Flyers (Broad St Bullies) beat the snot out of the Ruskies on ice. They skated off  the ice and were told either get back on the ice or go back with no money.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 08:25 | 3726097 bobbydelgreco
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37 coming not 73

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