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Iceland Denies Snowden's Bid For Citizenship

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So much for Iceland's bid as the world safe haven from government (and intellectual status quo) persecution. The tiny country that was such a vocal supporter of Julian Assange, and which originally was speculated as being the final destination of Snowden upon his departure from Hong Kong, has just opined on his request for Icelandic citizenship, and the answer is a resounding no, following the country's "parliament voted not to debate it before the summer recess" Reuters reports.

It was none other than chess legend Bobby Fischer who was granted Icelandic citizenship by parliament in a comparable procedure after he got into trouble with the United States over tax evasion and breaking sanctions by playing a match in Yugoslavia in 1992. Apparently Snowden's was not worthy enough for comparable treatment.

In doing so, Iceland effectively washes its hands of Snowden's fate, and the vote leaves the whistleblower with one option less as he seeks a country to shelter him from U.S. espionage charges. How much longer Snowden's limbo state in the Moscow transit terminal continues is unclear, but according to media reports, Putin is getting increasingly displeased with the lack of resolution which may mean that sooner or later, Snowden will have no choice but to head back to the one country's whose massive internal espionage aparatus he revealed for the entire world to see.

From Reuters:

Six members of parliament tabled a proposal late on Thursday to grant Snowden citizenship after they received a request from him via WikiLeaks, opposition parliamentarian Birgitta Jonsdottir said.

 

But a majority of parliamentarians voted late on Thursday against allowing the proposal to be put on the agenda, a day before parliament went into summer recess. It does not reconvene until September.

 

"Snowden has formally requested citizenship. But nothing is now going to happen. We could not even vote on it," Jonsdottir told Reuters.

 

In a letter dated July 4, posted on Jonsdottir's blog, Snowden wrote that he had been left "de facto-stateless" by his government, which revoked his passport after he fled the country and leaked information about U.S. surveillance operations.

 

He has sought asylum in a number of countries, but most, including Iceland, say he must be on their soil for his application to be accepted.

 

His request for citizenship was a different tack, hoping that Iceland would give him a passport, as it has done in at least one similar case in the past.

 

"I appreciate that Iceland, a small but significant country in the world community, shows such courage and commitment to its higher laws and ideals," he wrote in the letter.

 

Under Icelandic law, parliament can grant citizenship to foreigners, which can otherwise usually only be gained through naturalization after a period of residence.

 

Chess master Bobby Fischer was granted Icelandic citizenship by parliament after he got into trouble with the United States over tax evasion and breaking sanctions by playing a match in Yugoslavia in 1992.

 

After years living abroad, he was detained in Japan, where he applied for and was awarded Icelandic citizenship in 2005. He spent his last years in Iceland before dying in 2008.

 

Iceland's recently elected center-right government is seen as far less willing to engage in an international dispute with the United States than the previous government, even if it will want to maintain the country's reputation for promoting Internet freedom.

 

"It is a disappointment that he is facing limited options," WikiLeaks Icelandic spokesman Kristinn Hrafnsson told Reuters. "I am not optimistic that the new conservative government will take steps of courage and boldness to assist Mr Snowden.

 


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Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:17 | Link to Comment fightthepower
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Fuck you Rothschilds!

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:20 | Link to Comment BaBaBouy
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COURTESY:::  Barak Hussein ... Nobel Peace Monger Lauriat ...

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:25 | Link to Comment Boba Fiat
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This was to grant him citizenship....not asylum.  The citizenship vote was to be a sort of fast track to asylum.  For him to get asylum now he has to physically make it from Moscow to Iceland without pulling a Michael Hastings.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:33 | Link to Comment malikai
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My take:

Snowden stays in Moscow. The whole thing since he arrived has been planned all the way through. Putin's statement about chilling out on the releases was just a cover to let the US think he's playing ball. Meanwhile, every attempt is being made to force the puppets in NATO states to show their colors - which they are doing very well. Ultimately, when all the nations have rejected him, he quietly dissapears into Russia where he is never to be heard from again.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:47 | Link to Comment InTheLandOfTheBlind
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putin doesn't need to prove to anyone he is playing ball. much more likely that he didn't want snowden releasing anymore secrets because once release those secrets have no value to putin....  blackmail 101.... 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:49 | Link to Comment icanhasbailout
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My thoughts exactly. It's the only rationale for Putin not wanting additional info out there - it's more valuable to him as his own kept knowledge.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:28 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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From [Reuters/Rothschild]...

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"Iceland has no TCBY in their airport ~ we couldn't keep him there"...

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 15:00 | Link to Comment mofreedom
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if we're to be seriuos here just call iceland racist against...i would guess...finland.."en"  is usually finish right, those damn fins.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:11 | Link to Comment Aurora Ex Machina
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You'd be far more accurate with Denmark, fyi. There was serious dislike pre WWII there.

Oh, and fun fact: the 2nd largest town in Iceland, Akureyri, hosts the (a?) Danish Embassy, in the same building as one of the big four international auditors, who signed off on a lot of the banking stuff. Oh, and if you're a historian, you'll love the connection between the Masonic Lodges there (both in Aur / Rek), when they were founded and who built their National parliament building ~ and the fact that the Statue in front of it is pointing in the wrong direction.

The Universe, it seems, is not without a sense of irony.

As for this story, what do you expect? Look into the British / American invasion / occupation during WWII, it's not like they don't know what happens to a nation of ~320,000 when shit is hitting the fan.

 

Two comics. They contain a little more truthiness than you realize. Sharp. Pointy. Teeth. (But we adore them; seriously, totally love them).

 

Sigh - a wild junker appears. Must have figured out my dastardly plan to point out that Mississippi's top three porn searches are a)ebony b)black (gay) and c)hentai. Funny how that works.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:21 | Link to Comment chumbawamba
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My (off-the-cuff) take is that Iceland got burned when they found out Assange was just another CIA plant, and they don't need yet another one.

I am Chumbawamba.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:40 | Link to Comment Aurora Ex Machina
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I'm still left wondering why facts about Iceland are causing such anal arousal and pain.

They're all true.

Don't hate the messenger, as they say (and never, ever, ever, threaten them, that's just rude). And no: there's a fairly large conservative part to Icelandic Politics, always has been - their mind-set really isn't comparable to most other countries, it's very unique (and sexy). What do you expect from a people who think eating sheep heads is great cuisine. No, seriously: the entire fucking country was shit poor and desperate for years until WWII, and it took the Masons coming over for them to start building fucking stone buildings. In 1887. Given that most of the country is made of fucking rock, that's some serious levels of non-modernity. And the cousin-marrying? Yeah, there's a reason they're now hot-shit on their genetic database (which someone stole for research, touchy topic that one).

 

Their blood is fey, but there's serious conservative elements at play. Easiest translation: they don't think about politics in the same RED - BLUE fashion you do.

 

Oh, and sorry about mentioning the whole <REDACTED> majorly obvious <REDACTED> worship that's even larger than <REDACTED> 1,000 years ago stuff and the throwing of the <REDACTED> into the waterfall. No-one cares, trust me. And yes, love you very much.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:38 | Link to Comment Winston Smith 2009
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"It's the only rationale for Putin not wanting additional info out there - it's more valuable to him as his own kept knowledge."

Exactly, because if the US can't be sure of what he knows, Putin will be able to use misdirection by transmitting misinformation via methods he knows are compromised, but which the US can't be sure he knows are compromised. If Snowden releases it, the US will know what he knows.  All proving that he knows about Top Secret NSA stuff that Snowden hasn't released, making it highly likely that he already knew about everything Snowden has released, further meaning that there's probably a mole in the NSA or associated agency.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 15:14 | Link to Comment malikai
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But he's already released them to China and most if not all are already public knowledge now. The whole thing is for theatrics at this point, since it's clear that most Americans don't give a shit and beaureaucrats worldwide are more pissed that they don't have that data than they are about it watching them.

EDIT:

I'll add that this really is a win-win for everybody. Russia gets to make NATO puppets look like what they are. The owners in the west get to unveil their latest masterpeice. The subjects begin the acceptance phase. And work can begin on the next level of societal transformation.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:38 | Link to Comment Banjo
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No he doesn't need to but on the other hand there is politics.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:50 | Link to Comment sgt_doom
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I think you are technically right about Putin, InTheLandOfTheBlind, but Putin is in the wrong 'cause things have progressed far beyond the so-called blackmail stage --- the global elites are simply too rich and too powerful today --- it wouldn't be the first time Putin was fanciful in his thinking about the USA, recall when he sent over a top notch computer technoid bunch to do corporate espionage, and none of them could get any sensitive jobs in any corporations (Putin believing the fairy tale of the American "meritocracy"), and Obama deported this ostensible spy ring under the Foreign Agents Registration Act (as they weren't registered foreign business agents with the Treasury Department, etc.)?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Country_of_the_Blind

 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:09 | Link to Comment ToNYC
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Time is on Vlad's side. The West is busy wriggling around swallowing the hook.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:26 | Link to Comment Ignatius
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He can stay at my place... well, I've got an extra room, why not?

'Course, he'll have to do his share around the house....

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:36 | Link to Comment EL INDIO
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He could walk to an embassy (in Moscow) like Julian.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:10 | Link to Comment bank guy in Brussels
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Refugee from the USA Bobby Fischer died in Iceland, perhaps murdered by CIA-Mossad-Nato, shortly after arriving there. Death by sprayed medical disease is a long-developed CIA Mossad technique. They maybe killed Hugo Chávez of Venezuela that way.

Edward Snowden has been either a totally ungracious fool and immature idiot toward the Russians ... or he was, as many say, a CIA shill and plant all long.

Putin said Snowden could stay ... He just needed to quickly publish everything he was intending to leak, so he would not be carrying out individual operations to attack a foreign intelligence agency from Russian soil (an act of war). This was a reasonable request from Putin

But noooo ... little spoiled Snowden wanted to leak slowly in a manner of his own choosing, along with the corrupt UK Guardian trying to sell Google ads on their website by drawing this out

Snowden has been going out of his way to insult and demean his hosts, the Russians, who offer him safe haven for the rest of his life

And Snowden is acting like a child, requesting asylum from places where CIA agents roam freely and can easily kill him ... unlike the much more secure Russia ... WTF ?

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« Snowden reminds us of Assange, a supposed fighter for truth and justice who supports war on Iran, who supports Israel’s occupation of Palestine and who considers any effort to look into wrongdoing by Israel or America’s neocon fanatics, things such as 9/11, a “waste of time.” »

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/07/03/phony-news-psyop-danger-outweigh...

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Guidelines for Edward Snowden and Anyone Escaping from the USA Seeking Asylum

(1) Recognise that it is basically difficult, and in general, no country wants any asylum seekers from anywhere, aside from
(a) High-profile political defections in the case of current conflict with an adversary
(b) Countries like the US that have had somewhat 'easy' asylum as a back-door way of allowing immigration, in order to increase the labour pool, depress worker wages, and increase the number of citizens who are politically docile

(2) There is nothing special about an oppressive country or a tinpot dictatorship. Maybe half the countries in the world or more, are oppressive to some groups, and there are at least a billion people who would like to escape to more freedom. Therefore, US oppressed people ... welcome to the club along with tens of millions of Africans etc. You are just like them now, not 'more special' than them because it is the US dictatorship oppressing you.

(3) Especially, almost no one desires asylum seekers from the US because of
(a) Hostility and revenge by the US government
(b) Now that the US is a tinpot dictatorship, the number of oppressed, wrongfully accused etc US citizens who would want asylum could be a million or more, and no one wants to be flooded with arriving upset Americans
(c) The traditional arrogance of Americans, seen when they travel, they tend to feel they are 'exceptional', a 'chosen people', 'special' ... they tend to have an attitude of arrogance toward other cultures, wanting things 'their way' rather than trying to fit in

(4) What is really crazy is to treat 'asylum' as if picking restaurants to visit. Countries do not want to go out of their way to 'invite' asylum candidates from 3rd countries who are 'shopping'. This goes double if you are from the USA.

(5) As an asylum seeker, you should take the attitude of some poor Asian or African ... you are lucky to be in a place where you are not imprisoned, tortured,  or facing a fake political trial. Be grateful, and try to adjust to where you are. Do not be arrogant with your hosts or imagine you can be 'shopping' for a place you like better. Thank God you are not in US custody.

(6) A lot of traditional asylum avenues are secretly or openly closed to USA victims. Canada is now a US poodle, it is not like in Pierre Trudeau's day accepting Vietnam War objectors. They give asylum seekers back to the US. Ditto the UK. And organisations like Amnesty International have a secret deal with the US, to not help USA victims, so they can get CIA and US-based funding. There is little 'help' out there

(7) Countries have in fact accepted US asylum seekers who have already arrived in certain places, but basically quietly and without fanfare, trying to avoid openly provoking the US bully ... and the media and Google Inc also co-operate in hiding the fact these events are occurring. Papers are given using various 'cover' mechanisms (employment etc) rather than open direct political asylum. A big media storm changes the game, however, and makes this more difficult.

(8) The basic strategy for an American asylum seeker is to arrive and already be in a place where you will, in practice, be difficult to dislodge by legal means, because the local legal system has enough integrity and independence, to not ship you back to the USA. In retrospect, for Edward Snowden, France or Italy might actually have been the best choice - but only if Snowden was there already.

(9) The whole thing with Julian Assange in Britain, fearing extradition to the US from Sweden, never made any sense at all. Not because Sweden would not do it, but because Britain itself has a special 'easy extradition' treaty with the USA, requiring little or no evidence. When Assange was roaming around the UK, in fancy rich people's houses, before being in the Ecuador embassy, the US could have asked the UK to grab Assange and ship him out, easier than with any other country in the world. Something seems fishy.

(10) You are not even safe when you think you are safe - Refugee from US, wanted on criminal charges for 'illegally' playing chess in a country targeted by US sanctions (!), the anti-Zionist Jew Bobby Fischer, finally got refuge in Iceland after being jailed for a time in Japan. Shortly afterwards, Fischer was mysteriously dead, perhaps a victim of assassination by CIA-Mossad medical disease spray. Iceland is a Nato country where Nato and CIA agents can roam freely. The CIA has admitted that Western Europe is the only sector of the planet they hesitate to kill people - but they still do it here. A country like Russia or China or Cuba, where CIA agents cannot roam freely or hire assassins, is probably best from a securiy viewpoint

(11) Recommendations for Mr Snowden, if you are genuine: Be grateful for Russian hospitality, do not insult the only people who may be keeping you alive and out of prison. Be cautious about Assange and Wikileaks, and the sometimes highly-corrupt UK Guardian. Stop playing teasing media games with the Guardian, to draw out your leaks so they can sell Google Ads - the Guardian is desperate for cash. Instead, dump and publish everything you were going to publish, right now, leaving aside only your 'insurance' part to help keep you alive, and thus you can satisfy Mr Putin's condition about not causing more international problems for him. You are in Russia and Putin says you can stay. Thank him, profusely. Take a few quiet weeks, start learning Russian, maybe drink some Green Label Russian vodka with some attractive female Russian FSB agents. Calm down in safety. After a few weeks, as the media storm rolls over and dissipates, you will have wiser perspective, and can start your new life. You have a new home, treat it with respect. Many Russians are great people. Living there, working there, and still being free 5 years from now when maybe the US empire collapses, will be a great triumph.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:16 | Link to Comment ToNYC
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Every word in this "But noooo ... little spoiled Snowden"

"Snowden reminds us of Assange"

is a B-M, H-K public relations of misinformation. The longer and more expertly driven the narrative, the greater number of unthinkers are led to believe. Hey, it's like free thinking for you, duh!

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:25 | Link to Comment earleflorida
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well... aren't you the special diplomat, du`jour

,... Ps.    God Bless you Edward Snowden and Julian Assange!

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:48 | Link to Comment RSloane
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Bank guy is consistent for giving us false "if-then" statements. If B then A where all other options and variables have been reduced to zero regardless of their applicability. His propaganda posts should be read for entertainment only.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 15:04 | Link to Comment mofreedom
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who is this God you speak of?

sarc off.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:32 | Link to Comment tarsubil
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If the CIA hasn't got him, he must work for the CIA. The CIA is all powerful.

Did you remember the CIA spook caught by the Russians with a $2 wig? Did you remember that Brennan is the head of the CIA? The CIA is largely moronic sociopaths/Federal bureaucrats playing spy.  

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:47 | Link to Comment malikai
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I find it hard to believe that he wasn't supposed to get caught.

Looks like the o'l 'other' GLG-20 to me. If youknowhaddimean.

But then again, they actually could be this stupid. Which also wouldn't surprise me.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 15:58 | Link to Comment YHC-FTSE
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Bankguy. Mate, I appreciate opinions contrarian to mine, but for whatever reason I cannot really fathom from the muddled, disparate pieces of information about Edward I have absorbed during the last few days, my gut feeling tells me that I should at least respect what he has done for all of us and help him in whatever way I can. Nobody is perfect, and nitpicking at his mistakes - lack of prep, behaviour, &  personality while he tries to survive the rabid hounds from home in a predicament within which I am not sure any of us could have done as well on the trot - is below par. It's easy to be critical in retrospect, but I won't kid myself that I could have done better since I have never experienced a situation remotely similar to his. I have however learned the depth and pernicious influence of American power, which exceeds even my worst fears.

Casting aspersions on Edward, kicking a man while he's down, attributing all kinds of tenuous links on him when he is clearly in dire straits, without a home, country, friends or family for support, his fate being decided by the whims of the powerful. Well, your post tells me more about your personality than Edward's.

I agree that it would be wise for him to stay in Russia, and as I began, I do appreciate information that contradicts my own views. I think Edward is one of us, and I will treat him as such until he proves me wrong.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 16:36 | Link to Comment DollarMenu
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And every twist to the Snowden story takes us further down the road away from Benghazi and what went on there.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:55 | Link to Comment sgt_doom
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It was indirectly pointed out at this site, on a TD post, about Snowden's previous CIA contractor stint regarding the penetration of offshore tax havens (in Switzerland, etc.) but since few have still gotten the memo, please recall that the IRS, in a most circuitous manner, was handed confidential tax haven data (by Snowden, in case nobody has figured it out yet), and on May 9th, on the IRS web site, it was announced that they were untaking the largest tax investigation in history into those offshore tax havens together with the UK and Australia, and within a matter of days the acting IRS commissioner, Miller, was fired!

Snowden has attempted to perform miracles. . . .

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 01:31 | Link to Comment Bringin It
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Come on BGiB you've got your chosen people confused. The traditional arrogance of Americans, seen when they travel, they tend to feel they are 'exceptional', a 'chosen people', 'special' ... they tend to have an attitude of arrogance toward other cultures, wanting things 'their way' rather than trying to fit in

Most people can distinguish between the government and the people, with some appreciation for those who've managed to get a passport, look around, see what's happening and maybe stop propping up and instead escape the empire bubble.  Yes there are ugly Americans, but the same goes for any nationality.  A Swede just stabbed a Kiwi over here about a tiny dog in a bar, so the paper tells me.

Best wishes to Snowden at what must be difficult times.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:23 | Link to Comment MarsInScorpio
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Actually, what he needs to do is make it to the Icelandic Embassy in Moscow. If Putin will give him safe passage, he can go to any embassy and be on that county's "soil."

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Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:25 | Link to Comment flacon
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Poor guy. He may have to live in airports for the rest of his life. This just sucks!

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:28 | Link to Comment General Decline
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"Poor guy. He may have to live in airports for the rest of his life. This just sucks!"

 

Depends... will he have access to the business lounge?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:32 | Link to Comment kito
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lets hope morales of bolivia returns the favor after being utterly humiliated by europe ( the same europe that is so enraged by u.s. espionage that they bent over for obama by grounding a president's plane).......................................

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:43 | Link to Comment McMolotov
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This fiasco has exposed Uncle Sam as the wannabe emperor we always thought he was.

I used to somewhat respect this country, but over the past ten years, it's been like discovering proof that your girlfriend is secretly a crack-smoking ho bag.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:47 | Link to Comment malikai
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Not girlfriend. They are too easy to get rid of. More like very posessive, abusive, sadistic, fat, untrusting, untrustworthy, and expensive wife with the most clenching prenup (which of course you didn't sign, but that doesn't matter).

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:48 | Link to Comment General Decline
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...Or an uncle that repeatedly rapes you.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:40 | Link to Comment Ignatius
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I was just thinkin', since the corporations run this show, and looking at your McAvatar I was thinking he should rush the doors at McDonalds and seek asylum there and

... wait for it...

be McFREE!

Note: clean bathrooms

Promo opportunity:  The McSnowden Sandwich

(we're not gonna tell you how many calories, but we know)

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:42 | Link to Comment Totentänzerlied
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You do know that old Honest Evo is a corrupt sociopath wannabe-Chavez dictator, right? His best stunt was going on a hunger strike to force a constitutional amendment.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:57 | Link to Comment Lore
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Re: "a corrupt sociopath wannabe-dictator..."

It seems to be that or whoredom. Choose wisely.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 15:07 | Link to Comment malikai
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Whores are honest.

Show me an honest politician.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:55 | Link to Comment kito
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corrupt sociopath wannbe dictator...hmm.....sound alot like some other "leader of the first world"....cant place my exact finger on who that might be though........

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:56 | Link to Comment RSloane
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I could but I don't want to permanently harm my finger.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:09 | Link to Comment jmcadg
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Wasn't Jar Jar Binks French?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:55 | Link to Comment FuzzyDunlop21
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Anyone else have the urge to fly to Moscow just to shake this guys hand?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:06 | Link to Comment CH1
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YES!!!

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:37 | Link to Comment Peter Pan
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Can you get his autograph for me?

I want to add it to the declaration of independence.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:41 | Link to Comment Ignatius J Reilly
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At the risk of the NSA drone killing my ass, honestly, I'd like to help him.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:55 | Link to Comment SIOP
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You can help him, I havnt donated yet, but I do plan to.

https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/snowden

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 19:43 | Link to Comment AgShaman
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Wow....is he wearing Google's glasses?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:04 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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Simon Black?

Will he fly there, shake his hand, give him sage advice (ex-spook to ex-spook)?

Seriously, I'm not being a smart ass.  Well, maybe a 'little'.  For purposes of gallows humor.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:25 | Link to Comment kaiserhoff
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This is retarded, and not worth spilling ink over.

Bring him home, and put him in a cage match with Obozo.

Barry gets a basketball.  Snowden gets a colt 45.

May the best man win.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:29 | Link to Comment Herd Redirectio...
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At least give Frank Marshall Davis Jr a golf club.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:34 | Link to Comment kaiserhoff
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Putter or an iron?

If he took a couple of lessons from Tiger Woods' wife...

I think we've got the next American Idol, ratcheer.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:30 | Link to Comment McMolotov
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Colt 45: It works every time.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:34 | Link to Comment General Decline
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Billy Dee Williams as the referee? 

 

www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pK5HmuCMBM 
Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:56 | Link to Comment CH1
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No, no, I have dibs on being the ref!

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:09 | Link to Comment Ignatius J Reilly
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Sex Panther.  60% of the time it works everytime.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:37 | Link to Comment are we there yet
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No Snowden gets a light saber and a jedi robe.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 19:51 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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Good one, except you forgot about US:
We get a Biden.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:35 | Link to Comment azzhatter
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Bribing foreign governments with your tax money so they can continue to spy on you and violate constitution. USA USA USA

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:17 | Link to Comment williambanzai7
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Big hats no cattle

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:39 | Link to Comment azzhatter
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Yup! All talk by these supposed bastions of freedom

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:49 | Link to Comment SamAdams
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Iceland, population 250,001, correction 250,000...

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:19 | Link to Comment insanelysane
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All sides in Egypt hate the US, might want to check that out.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:25 | Link to Comment kito
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all sides??? really??? even the side that carries the biggest guns courtesy of uncle sugars foreign aid pentagon/welfare program?? 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 15:00 | Link to Comment RSloane
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Muslim Brotherhood called, they would like more serious hardware and a bigger check this time.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 03:10 | Link to Comment Bringin It
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Kito - the Egyptian army did not want to go on 'Jihad' in Syria.  They also do not want to facilitate the arrival of the Al-CIA-da Mercenary cannibals in Egypt.  They could see the handwriting on the wall with the 330 senior Turkish officers in prison.

New man in Qatar looks anti MB.

The Empire's gone in reverse. Hallaleuya!!!!

In the end, the Egyptian Army knows they'll still get the money from Uncle Sugar.  The canal is too important for world [oil] trade.  The Sinai to important to the Masters of Zongress to leave unattended.

Supposedly, they're getting Saudi + Gulf money to cover any losses.  Saudi hates the MB.  Very bad news indeed if true, for the Zato program.

 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:26 | Link to Comment reload
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Tehran has much better restaurants and infinately prettier girls.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:38 | Link to Comment General Decline
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Never been there but I do know that the women in Algiers are way better than the women in Cairo.  And the wine & seafood is outstanding.  I would seek asylum there.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:45 | Link to Comment McMolotov
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He should fade into Bolivian like Mike Tyson.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:00 | Link to Comment General Decline
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I had heard that Mike had wasted Brazillions of dollars on fur coats and face tattoos.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:46 | Link to Comment de3de8
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Reload,So true, know it first hand

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:55 | Link to Comment Herd Redirectio...
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Persian women were known for their beauty even 500 years ago.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:59 | Link to Comment Lore
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Wow. How old are they now?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:19 | Link to Comment Frank N. Beans
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And here I thought Iceland was different.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:20 | Link to Comment EL INDIO
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Every country is trembling in fear of lord Apophis

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:26 | Link to Comment General Decline
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I get it.  Who wants the wrath of the US military raining down on them?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:27 | Link to Comment EL INDIO
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The shol'va shall be captured.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:22 | Link to Comment Seize Mars
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I told you morons 100 times. Iceland still has fiat money. That means The Great Eye is still in charge.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:23 | Link to Comment MeelionDollerBogus
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The Great Eye will not stop searching, like OJ, for the real money printers. Or like Eric Holder looking for the real gun-runners

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:24 | Link to Comment Seize Mars
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If a country has fiat money, it is not free. It's that simple. Do you understand now? Iceland is not free. The "arrest the bankers" bullshit was just that. BULLSHIT. They are still farm animals, just like us here in the US.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:30 | Link to Comment Herd Redirectio...
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Yeah, seems like the previous ruling party was co-opted pretty quickly, if not immediately, upon election.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:44 | Link to Comment Totentänzerlied
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No offense, but, YA THINK?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:25 | Link to Comment Smegley Wanxalot
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Snowden should really piss off Obama and get Kenyan citizenship.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:32 | Link to Comment EL INDIO
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Kazakhstan citizenship would have a bigger effect.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:26 | Link to Comment TideFighter
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If TeeBow can find a home then Snowden will find one too. Our DOJ can't dpell his name, but they can put out on all out "cut your funds if you take him" front. Snowden was right, eventually the long arm will eventually get him. 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:26 | Link to Comment heinrich6666
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Iceland is still ruled by a sort of closed-minded conservative junta. 

And BTW, the world's full of cowards.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:32 | Link to Comment Herd Redirectio...
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Its not so much about Snowden as it is about precedent.

 The sociopaths want to set a precedent, and no single country wants to take the brunt of that.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:10 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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And where are those phoney, self-righteous, self-serving egotists by the name of 'Bono', or 'Sting'?

Planning any Save Snowden concerts?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:28 | Link to Comment Svendblaaskaeg
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So sad,  Human Rights my a**

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:31 | Link to Comment topspinslicer
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This does not seem to bode well for the return of Jesus

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:34 | Link to Comment EL INDIO
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It bodes well for the Antichrist

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:32 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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The U.S should be the one granting him asylum due to pressure from it's citizens

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:36 | Link to Comment q99x2
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"Apparently Snowden's was not worthy enough for comparable treatment."

Countries are not inclined to go up against the New World Nazis and their financial terrorist machine - not to mention their assassination squads.

You think that Lindsey Graham isn't scared shitless each day of his life that he may not have done enough of what is expected of him. The world is under attack.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:08 | Link to Comment heinrich6666
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Lindsey Graham has the infamous Jorg Haider Syndrome: closet gays whose harshness towards themselves makes it easier to be authoritarians in the public sphere. If you're taking it up the butt in private, it's always easier to be a superstrong National Security State Man in public.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:13 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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If he were certain that he'd get re-elected in SC after his 'cumming out', he'd do it. 

As it is, his handlers advise him to keep the status quo game.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:40 | Link to Comment ThisIsBob
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Venezuela appears willing, but no doubt the US has already threatened to cancel all USA air rights of any airline that helps get him there.  Putin, having had his fun, will now probably have to use a military plane to get rid of him.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:49 | Link to Comment kw2012
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Marrying  Russian secret agent Anna Chapman looking like one of his better options these days.  Could be A LOT worse.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 15:05 | Link to Comment RSloane
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I was actually half-suspecting they would marry. If they did, it might finally break "Honey Boo Boo's" hold on the American public and they would pay attention to this at least for a few minutes.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:50 | Link to Comment q99x2
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Practical ways that the Nazis at Goldman Sachs and the FED are implementing murder and the destruction of the United States of America. Fear spreads over 'militarization' of police in US...
911 CALL: Woman terrorized, arrested for buying case of bottled water...
We are physically at war and under attack but at least the news about it is getting out to the population.
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Thats right, war has been declared.  Some time ago actually, but things are ramping up.

 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:33 | Link to Comment exartizo
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here is something interesting along those lines:

http://www.khou.com/news/editors-pick/2-women-in-bikinis-sue-over-body-c...

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 18:19 | Link to Comment MeelionDollerBogus
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Shockingly 1 officer was fired. Shocking to me because I thought the corruption was so absolute they'd get heroes parades for stopping the war on droogs or ter'ism.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:00 | Link to Comment T-NUTZ
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A master will lose to a Grand Master 999 out of 1000 games, therefore, Chess GRAND MASTER Bobby Fischer to you, BITCHEZ!! not to mention world champion...  geezus!

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:58 | Link to Comment Ace Ventura
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So much for 'standing up to the international banking syndicate', Iceland. That liberty-style fire sure got hosed down quick.

Still, kudos for your women, far and away the most fantastically and ridiculously beautiful I've ever seen, per capita.

P.S. Fuck you bankstahs. You too, NSA/CIA spunkgargling wannabe tyrants.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 13:59 | Link to Comment MagicHandPuppet
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I have an open letter to "The Prez" Obomber:

 

Dear Asshat.  Fuck you.

Sincerely,

Magic "We miss you in Kenya" HandPuppet

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:00 | Link to Comment Svendblaaskaeg
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..and what will "We the People" do about it??

"Well, I think I should point out first, Snowden, in all fairness, we are not, in fact, the rescue committee.."

Snowden:"What?" 

"Your death will stand as a landmark in the continuing struggle to liberate..bla.bla.." 

Please bring you house in order bitchez!

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:00 | Link to Comment Racer
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The US have more than likely secretly said to other countries,

Look you take this man and we go to war with your country, you don't want that now do you, so do as we say, say NO to him or else your whole country gets it

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:00 | Link to Comment Peter Pan
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Tyranny is to be found in every corner.

Snowden cannot find a single free country to take him

India basically bans the importation of gold and for banks to sell it.

Draghi threatns negative interest rates while Ben does much the same once you take away taxes and infation

You can't have an atomic weapon if your government is not submissive to the USA.

The USA makes it almost impossible and very costly to renounce US citizenship.

Big Brother becomes bigger and bigger and can now hear or see your every communication.

Banks can cheat you of your funds, launder drug money, manipulate interest rates and repossess your home and yet when found guilty are slapped on the wrist with a wet lettuce.

Your social security contributions can only go to Uncle Sam who promptly spends it and gives you an IOU for future use.

Your employment statstics tell you that you are employed despite the fact that you cannot find a full time job and despite the fact that you cannot survive without food stamps.

Tyranny is when Not Haus is found guilty of producing silver coins that somehow ountrrfeit US money, yet his currency is worth more now than the stuff he purpotedly counterfeited.

In other news Americans still live in the biggest democracy in the world.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:18 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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And yet... and yet people are still fucking Enlisting -- to "serve & protect!

They need to swallow the 'other' pill and think about whom exactly they are serving and protecting.

Assuming that they have ANY meaningful career choices outside the LEAs or military -- which  I personally doubt.

 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:01 | Link to Comment Escapeclaws
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Happy Snowden-snow job Cass Sunstein limited hangout psy-op weekend!

And remember, Hitler was mean to his dog.

Off to Syria we go!

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:29 | Link to Comment heinrich6666
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There's conspiracy theory that's empirical, and then there's conspiracy theory that's pathological.

You, sir, are in the LATTER category.

Fuck yerself.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 19:23 | Link to Comment Escapeclaws
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Just remember, smarty pants, your instant media celebrity, who in fact thinks that whistleblowers should be "shot in the balls" was put out there to weaken Obama's resistance to going to war in Syria. Be a big boy and not just a brainless name caller, and check out tarpley.net if you can stand the cognitive dissonance. Putin, the KGB agent, sees through this US/British agent.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:40 | Link to Comment Vooter
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I thought Hitler loved Blondi...

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:09 | Link to Comment involuntarilybirthed
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Hawaii to Iceland?  Huh?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:16 | Link to Comment Jack Burton
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The world wide nature of the Power Elites is now showing itself. Many will get angry if you say that there even is a world wide power elite that is loyal to it's class and not individual nations. But Snowden's case proves them wrong. The world elites are loyal to their class and their growing power and wealth. The elites of the world are most loyal to the USA, this is because the USA is the power center for world elites. The US offers safe haven for any and all financial crooks and financial terrorists. The US State Department is like an office of protection for the world's financial classes. The US Military acts as THE world policeman and enforcer for wealthy elites across the globe, and they also act to overturn any government that threatens the wealth and power of the world elites.

Why do all these nations say one thing for their publics about Snowden, then act totally in concert with the US CIA and Military in trying to capture him for rendition to a US secret torture prison?

In short, the world's financial elites tend to center around the USA as we offer them protection and a military force to keep their power and wealth intact. It is like an organized global crime sindicate, with the USA acting as enforcer.

Snowden is toast, unless he can get to a nation that is up in arms against the US centered global power structure. South America may be his only chance. The USA and it's foreign loyalist elites will make 99% of world nations unsafe for Snowden. Russia should offer him a safe haven, but the world's elites are also powerful in Russia, it is all about whether Putin is sick of US money funding the political opposition to Putin inside Russia, whether Putin is sick of the US conquering other nations, or funding terrorism like in Syria and Chechenya.

Who knows, when does Putin wake up, the elites have him on their hit list. He should know that, so when does he act to protect Snowden? For now Snowden can stay put, that Moscow terminal is famous for being a place refugees can hang out for months. Putin is the only one who can save Snowden, if he does not, he will lose a lot of domestic Russian political support. The average Russian believes that NATO and the USA will settle for nothing less than destruction of Russia, the evidence supports their view. If you have ever been to Russia, you will know to never understimate the patriotic feelings of average Russians. They would support Snowdens stay in Russia under FSB protection from CIA and US Military Kill teams.

If Putin stabs Snowden in the back, which he might well do, then you KNOW Putin is one of the world's elites who is more concerned for his own greed than he is for Russia as a nation. I say it's a 50-50 bet either way. A toss up.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:29 | Link to Comment Peter Pan
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They are not after Snowden. They just want to stop future Snowdens.

Snowden has nothing that will endanger national security but the next Snowden might.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:41 | Link to Comment Jack Burton
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In one of Snowden's early interviews, he did claim to have further information that was set to be released "IF" something happened to his person. What that is, is anyone's guess.

I find the information that the NSA spies on every American domestically to be non-news. Most informed people knew this already. In fact, on some blogs over the years I have claimed that the NSA stores every key stoke you make on a computer, every post is stored, every Amazon order, every porn site visited, in short, everything. On many occasions, other posters on various sites have called me crazy for making those claims about NSA. Well, who is crazy now?

I agree that Snowden must be taken down by government, to prove to potential whistle blowers that torture and death await anyone who crosses the national security state. Like in Stalin's Russia "No Person, No Problem". or to steal another quote. "Every now and again you need to shoot someone to encourage the others". In this case, "to encourage the others to stay silent."

America can not let Snowden's whistle blowing stand. His is marked for death, or rendition to Polands secret CIA torture prison complex.

However you look at it, on Russia can now save Snowden. Otherwise the clock is ticking on when the USA bags their prey.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:07 | Link to Comment Winston Smith 2009
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"Most informed people knew this already." There's a difference between "knew" and "suspected."

Many correctly suspected it, but Snowden proved it.

Here's something that was mentioned in the book about the NSA by James Bamford entitled "The Shadow Factory" starting on page 180. He didn't recognize it for what it was. I did. You don't need the huge capacity storage centers he mentions that AT&T used to ONLY store 128 byte headers from network traffic:

Using the AT&T Labs PacketScope for Internet Measurement, Design, and Performance Analysis - Oct 1997

www.kiskeya.net/ramon/work/pubs/sips97.pdf

How to tap into it at the time, easily overcome through a single compromised, dial-up PC authorized to log on:

Management and Security

The monitors are manageable remotely, so that on-site presence of personnel to manage the monitoring equipment is not essential. A small Cisco router controls access to each monitor. The main access path is through a T1 line to AT&T Labs in Florham Park, NJ. There is also a POTS line connected to the router. It serves as backup in case the T1 is unavailable. Through either of these links, we can remotely start and stop data collection, reconfigure the packet filters, and perform many other control functions. We can also transfer programs and data in and out of the monitor.

At the same time, we protect the data collected on the monitor from unauthorized users using several techniques. First, we disallow logins to the monitor except from selected nodes in the AT&T Intranet. Second, we use the SSH (secure shell) software package to allow only authenticated, encrypted logins to the monitor. Third, dialup access is additionally protected with passwords and dialback.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 19:50 | Link to Comment ebear
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We're all Snowdens on this bus.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:47 | Link to Comment heinrich6666
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Got a news flash for you: WE are the power elite. The 'elite' are just a bunch of short-sighted, shitting jerk-offs -- just like the rest of us. In short, human chimpanzees beat up on human chimpanzees.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 17:53 | Link to Comment el Gallinazo
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Speak for yourself.  Oh yeah - you did.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 15:19 | Link to Comment Crash Overide
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Vatican City = The Religious arm

City of London = Financial arm

District of Columbia = Military arm

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 00:14 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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Damn right!

The new Pope just nominated John Paul II for sainthood, which is the fastest in centuries.

Ironically, he helped Ronny Raygun overthrow the USSR, but sadly did fuck all to stop the child molestation of his priests.

"Hang 'em all! Hang 'em high! And let the good Lord sort them out." as they used to say in the Wild West, and in 'Nam.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:12 | Link to Comment RaceToTheBottom
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Whether people admit it or not, there is a fundamental difference between Snowden and Asange.  Asange was supposedly a journalist, who was given the information. 

A better comparison is Snowden and Manning, both took info and are giving it out.  If Snowden comes back, he will be Manninged. 

If Snowden wants to be treated like Asange, he had better quickly create a website and stick every little piece of information he has out there.  Put it out for everyone to see.  Just make them get a user ID.  Tell them to have  a fake ID and not to have anything to tie it back to your real life, cause the NSA will know it.  The large number of users that log on and look around would be help to the guttless politicians competing to be "weiner of the year"....

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:12 | Link to Comment Peter Pan
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After being at an airport for too long you just can't tell if you are coming or going. The only thing that us ordinary people can do for Snowden is to pray for him.

One way or another the USA will get its man.

The US government seriously needs to ask itself why a well paid indivdual in a position of trust reaches a decision to risk his life.

Even Assange is on borrowed time because his assylum status will eventually be withdrawn.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:18 | Link to Comment el Gallinazo
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Every being born of woman is on borrowed time.

"On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero."

Now where the hell did I read that?

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 00:08 | Link to Comment Ranger4564
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If 1 million people surrounded the Embassy in England where Assange is captive basically, I think the world would take notice and some things would slowly change... more people would join, and we could safeguard him somewhere.

 

If 1 million people took a flight to the airport in Russia where Snowden is held up... I think we could escort him out.

 

It just takes a willingness to risk your life to save the life of someone who risked theirs to save yours. This should have happened long ago for Assange. I've been thinking about it ever since he's been in that Embassy.

 

Maybe soon.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 00:26 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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"Risk their life"? Are you kidding?

These overfed farm animals won't even 'risk' an afternoon of 'inconvenience' to voice their views.

Draw your own conclusions and plan accordingly.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 00:39 | Link to Comment Ranger4564
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I know friend. I just like goading them until one day, maybe the sheer humiliation will drive them to some sort of action. But I don't hold out much hope.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:13 | Link to Comment el Gallinazo
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All these "freedom loving" countries are folding like cheap lawn chairs.  At least it separates the sheep from the goats.  In my opinion Iceland is highly overrated in that department

 

There is one option country which Snowden did not apply to and I have yet seen no mention off - namely Iran.  Curious that I appear to be the only one to think of it out loud.  Undoubtedly, the very intelligent Snowden has thought of it, but Iran has been so demonized by the USSA MSM for the last 34 years since that great American hero, the Shah, packed his travel bags, that Snowden undoubtedly feels that he would lose a lot of his moral capital if he fled there from the tentacles of the NWO octopus.  And it has a common border with Russia.  No need for air space permission or new travel documents as he is now in the Moscow airport free zone and there are plenty of flights direct to Tehran. It would probably appeal as well to Vlad the Impaler.  And there is absolutely no way he would get a fair and open trial in the USSA.  Returning would be a suicide without redeeming social merit.  But would any red blooded American want to live in a country whose central bank was not run by the Rothschild clan?  It just makes me shiver.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:29 | Link to Comment Jack Burton
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"Iran" was mentioned during a debate on the Snowden case on RT yesterday. The take was that Iran would be a dangerous place for Snowden and a harder place for him to fit in and live for any length of time. Iran is deeply penetrated by the CIA and Mossad. Israel would gladly make the hit for the USA. The CIA would gladly make the hit for Obama. Obama can easily put a checkmark by Snowden's name on Obama's nightly "Kill List" reading.

Our president, how does he unwind after a hard day as ruler of the "Free World"? Simple enough, sit back and relax with a "Kill List". mark off those you want to rub out, mark up others for rendition to secret torture prisons in Poland. One can go to bed and sleep soundly knowing you have protected America's Bankers, Corporate CEO's, Wall-Street Trading Houses, Federal Employees, the Military Industrial Complex and the children of the richest 1%.

Obama, he is some socialist! Signer of "kill lists", signer of the "Monsanto Protection Act" a formal act of corporate terrorism. Enabler of the money printing whores at the federal reserve, signer of the bank bailouts, etc. etc.  Obama a tool of Wall-Street Banks and the world wide Sunni Jihad against secular Arab govenments. Obama, is he worse than Bush? Right now he has that potential, if he invades Syria or Iran anytime soon, I would say YES, Obama is a black Bush, but worse than the original!

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 15:03 | Link to Comment 22winmag
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Re: folding up like cheap lawn chairs. That's what I always said DHS and the other alphabet soup agencies will do if they are foolish enough to get into a real shooting match with at American populace at large.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:16 | Link to Comment thewayitis
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  Anna Chapman Tweets Snowden to marry him (Russian model).     Nice booty. Go ahead snowden .....

 

 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:17 | Link to Comment put_peter
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The first person to spend the rest of his life in Moscow airport transit lounge. Got to respect that.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:18 | Link to Comment ALANBEEKMAN
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I hope things are compfy for Snowden in that transit lounge,

maybe a bottle or two of some Stolichnaya Elit vodka and a

pound or two of Beluga caviar.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:19 | Link to Comment tarsubil
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For $3.2 bil they could pay every citizen of Iceland $10K. That is chump change to the powers that be and they really want Ed. This may simply end up like Pharaoh and Moses. Obsessions have a way of destroying you.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:21 | Link to Comment Peter Pan
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The purpose of life is a life with purpose.

Snowden has achieved that.

Now what about the rest of us?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:22 | Link to Comment put_peter
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For the rest of us it is drinking in L.A.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bPYp_iqkWk

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:20 | Link to Comment coltek
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The poor guy may just have to go back to the land of the free...

 

Excuse me, I have to go the the bathroom and throw up.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:24 | Link to Comment caferrell
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The Empire has the goods on everybody. With the NSA they can blackmail anybody in the world, and that includes Allthing Delegates

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:57 | Link to Comment optimator
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There are a few countries that don't have Bank America branches, any of those will certainly take him in.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:25 | Link to Comment Ranger4564
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Let's all chip in and buy a small Island from a financially devastated nation for Mr. Snowden.  I'll chip in $1000, or more, if it actually goes somewhere.  He can then secede from that nation, declare sovereignty, and setup a decentralized people's army... we can all own any weapon we want according to his mandate. We can then resist the douche bags that instigated this reaction.

Tonight when I get home, I'll link up a website setup to aid Mr. Snowden... I don't have it on me.

 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:35 | Link to Comment put_peter
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$1000 for a citizenship... im in...

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 23:20 | Link to Comment Ranger4564
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There are a lot of seemingly scam sites setup purporting to be Snowden Legal Defense Funds... I'd stay away from all that appear to have popped up overnight, that do not appear to be sanctioned or part of a larger persistent organization.

I found the only 1 that appears to be legit. Not affiliated with the site / organization... maybe there are others from conservative / libertarian sites also, and if you find any, post them below in reply, so people can find them.

https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/snowden?refcode=SnowdenDefens...

I believe you have to choose PCCC Strategic Fund in order to donate to Snowden's Legal Fund.

 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:35 | Link to Comment All Out Of Bubblegum
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Still no pix of Ed. I wonder what his bankster-lawyer Bruce Fein's next move will be?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:35 | Link to Comment zipit
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Seems he has become, or always was, damaged goods.  Now he is officially a pariah.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 14:40 | Link to Comment ITrustMyGut
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It's Time to Re-think... Everything.
With the recent reminders of NSA spying ( we've been warned and told repeatedly for decades about this, this isn't new..Think Nixon, etc.. this IS both parties.. it's just the level of increasing tech that supports more more more capture and capacity ) it's really caused me to ponder, to rethink, to consider..everything. And I ask that you might as well.
First, on this space, I want to thank all that participate; we have a wide array of philosophy, political leanings, etc represented here, and yet, people are careful to not incite or instigate unwinnable arguments and ugliness. Conversation is welcome, but let us not stray from that place that supports healthy dialogue. For despite the depth of our convictions or beliefs, most positions in any one of those spaces are truthfully, unresolved. We all are deeply influenced by a great many sources, with a personal bias towards those that support things we already believe..but honestly, we do not know, what we do not know. Remember that when ideas that rock your familiar ideological boat are presented. Seek open mindedness. Be prepared for compromise.
We now know we are subjected to 100% information capture, control, and manipulation. globally. Just think about that for a bit. deeply. more than scandal, or salacious anger... this means one thing: Everything is rigged. Everything is controlled. Everything is managed by those with the most acces to this deep information. There will be no challenges to that system, for it will interrupt anything that might try. Elections and choices, are 100% managed, controlled. Consent, the people's consent, your consent, is manufactured. We are sheppard to conclusions by the System. Thesis and Antithesis. the synthesis is always the systems design. Ordo Ab Chaos.
 
I suspect its circular, too, meaning not one group has more leverage on another. X has dirt on Y, Y has dirt of Z, and so on. And as long as X, Y, Z profit with the status quo, it continues. Occasionally, X tries to take over Z, or something, minor disruptions and struggles, but in the end, X, Y, Z remain in power, remain receiving the bulk of the shares of everything, and the system remains, growing stronger everyday.

Politics, or as I say, Poly-tics. ( many parasites ) I have friends fear O is a muslim, bringing shria law, a commie, etc. Is that possible? Would small time Chicago gang politics trump the MIC ( military industrial complex )? Bush? Friends believe ( or I should say have been conditioned to believe ) went to Iraq for daddy's revenge? for this reason or that. 100% Information control reminds us, NO! Nothing happens in this world without it being in support of X, Y, Z's interests. Soros? Liberals? Evangelicals? Radical righties? Really? Recall this stuff ( 100% Information Control ) has been in place, in varying levels of tech, for DECADES. What about 9-11? Lewinsky? Boston? 7/7 ( UK )? Lehman Brothers? you name the catastrophe. we now understand... the system creates these events. It manages them. The End justifies the means. These events ALL enhanced the SYSTEM's control. ALL of them.


It's passed. The time of imagining we can "fix" the broken system, by using the broken system, its processes, fake elections, petitions, etc... OVER. The system will destroy any new candidate, or even idea, that might even consider changing anything. Thats NOT CONSPIRACY, THAT IS SIMPLE HUMAN NATURE. Dreaming of benevolence in the face on selfishness and history, is delusional. Power never just lets go..just releases its power. NEVER.

There are NO surprises in 100% information control spaces friends. Everything about our lives IS an illusion. Everything.

 we should all consider the implications. think Matrix.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 15:51 | Link to Comment Mr. Hudson
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I agree with most of what you stated. But you left out any mention of Zionism. Joe Biden agrees with your conclusions, and that is why he told a rabbi "I am a Zionist". It is about survival at this point, and Biden wants his family to survive what's coming. He is a Catholic; he has no love for Jews, or Zionism. But he isn't as dumb as he is made out to be, and we should follow his example.

The Zionist/Central Bankers/Talmudic Jews are going to win this. There is no doubt that they will. This all began with the Rothschild's Blueprint in 1763. Rothschild didn't care about Jews, but he used them just as much as the Jews have used him. The demise of this country went into full effect with the creation of the Federal Reserve in 1913. Paul Warburg saw to that. Now we are at the end game. So, what do we do?

I say we approach the Talmudic Jews and take sides with them. We will support them. We need to stop finding fault with them and see what we can to do to help their ambitions so we can see the fulfillment of their well planned, brilliant strategy. All we ask is what Joe "Zionist" Biden has asked for: if they will spare our lives and our family’s lives, and also, maybe, if just maybe, would they allow us to serve some usefulness in their coming New World Order.

Somebody has to pick the lettuce, and I love to garden.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 03:08 | Link to Comment Escapeclaws
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