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The Market's Schizophrenic Reaction To Payrolls

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UPDATE: S&P futures collapsing quickly - now down from Payrolls

The initial kneejerk reaction in stocks was oddly 'good-is-good' higher after the better-than-expected headline data on payrolls - which perhaps signalled that Taper is nearer - but FX, bond, and precious metals markets were clearly in Taper-On mode. Treasury yields cracked 13bps higher, Gold and Silver dropped 1-2%, outdates for Eurodollar futures dropped notably, and the USD jumped around 0.5% almost uniformly. As an illiquid equity market soaks in the reality, some of that initial surge is fading...

Stocks jump...

 

but everything else cracks in a distinctly Taper-Off mode...

 


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Fri, 07/05/2013 - 08:52 | Link to Comment slaughterer
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Does not compute ---- except for the algos.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:10 | Link to Comment flacon
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Russell 2000 looks like a good short here:

https://www.tradingview.com/e/ZmSaSXzJ/

 

Here is the ES:

https://www.tradingview.com/e/vLfPKboT/

 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:16 | Link to Comment spine001
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The level of instability in the financial system Makes it impossibke to predict forward more than a few second, thus you see what the article calls knee jerk reactions, they are just the algos following the fractal bifurcations that they see in the market. Remember they use chaos theory to make the predictions and that the people definig the math built into the algos are physicists

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 10:23 | Link to Comment ACP
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Took 6 straight days of POMO-fueled HFT criminal manipulation to push this pig over the 50DMA again? They're really losing their touch. Either that of they're building a wall of stops to get ready for a hard core bang-up next week.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:19 | Link to Comment spine001
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Not schizophrenic but math based and predictable in a non linear feedback system where people are attempting to predict its behavior and can onlybdo it for a few second foirward, and during transitions only foir a few miliseconds due to the rate of bifurcations.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:25 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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and run by humans who are chaos fact. "must control them! must control them! send in fem bots! send in fem bots" all those numbers say recession. period. the Fed has already gone full on Phillips Curve (from out of the blue I might add.) well...here comes your trade off: recession=no bank. the idea that this recovery can be financially driven has been laid to rest. ironically it was working. (insert Easter island totems here.)

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 08:53 | Link to Comment Racer
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As long as gold is hit, the banksters care not, so perception of their lack of clothes is put off until another day

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:06 | Link to Comment bozzy
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Yup - just a shame that the rest of the world cannot shake free of the petro-dollar reserve currency scam. The Fed has done wonderfully well to get the rest of the world to pay for the American dream recovery, and there is no sign of the plot weakening. Oil heading North will bring us unopposed fracking, and the new American century will be here for all (US) citizens to enjoy. Well, actually a few, not all. 

Just one thing I did not catch in the jobs data - WHEN exactly are the employment numbers projected to get back to their previous levels?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:11 | Link to Comment insanelysane
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Never.  Manufacturing lost jobs.  Working in fast food or at Lowes/Home Depot way up.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:30 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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a house is a manufactured product. "it has the added value of being able to live in it." we can create 100 percent home ownership actually...but we have to turn the media people switch to off. since people are so terrified of that thing "they'd rather blow up banks and markets instead." this doesn't strike me as good for recovery.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:26 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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Gold did get 'hit':

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2356457/Thieves-caught-lifting-1-million-vodka.html

Gold Vodka, who knew? Precious Liquids...now I have to change my porfolio again...

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 08:56 | Link to Comment Clam McCain
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Sell your gold it is worthless

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:00 | Link to Comment alfred b.
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  At these prices, you're not selling...you're giving it away!!!

 

 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:03 | Link to Comment asscannon101
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An evil, barbaric relic from a dark time long, long ago when wizards and talking dragons ruled from the Gorge of Liam's Grundle all the way to the abyssal wastelands of Harry's Gooch... Yesssss, I remember it well...

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:30 | Link to Comment unwashedmass
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i agree....going to start looking for it....tossed on the garbage heaps. and dumped in corners. 

all kidding aside, I wish I owned one of those "we buy gold shops" this week...you could make a killing --- i mean, you are getting all this free publicity from the FED and JPM.....ride the marketing wave.....half the people don't have a clue.....

and are getting suckered royally. 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 08:57 | Link to Comment algol_dog
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Everybody's forced to be a day trader in today's markets. Nobody knows what the fuck is going on ....

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:07 | Link to Comment Cdad
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What is going on...is the complete and total destruction of any remnant of market credibility.  It is part of the process of taking it down.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:11 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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It really does get me that all these eclownomists have completely sold out, and can somehow just overlook the fact that these markets have been reduced to a laughable farce! 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:34 | Link to Comment malikai
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Put the god damn glasses on!

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:12 | Link to Comment therearetoomany...
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DING DING DING - We have a winner!!!! 

They've already destroyed the credility of any governmental entities all that is left is to kill the market.

 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:28 | Link to Comment Town Crier
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Correct.  Money will be removed from the economy, but not TPTB money.  Retail investors' money.  When every mom and pop and their neighbors are finally all in, TPTB will take their profits, the crash will happen and mom and pop will be broke before they finish their morning coffee.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:38 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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not true. you still have to find new sources of liquidity. TPTB only exist on "old money." there are many sources of liquidity of course...but usually very few NEW sources. the USA has three and counting: nat gas, solar, cloud computing. they have the advantage of being very low in price...in effect they are "funding currencies." so no...we don't care about the dollar, we don't care about oil, we don't care about the middle east, we don't care about Wall Street. we DO care about the economy however "and the meaning of debt driven growth" as opposed to that which is equity driven.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 08:58 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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Stocks up, gold and bonds down...Clearly a sign of the great rotation as we enter a period of peace and prosperity. The world is in perfect harmony. What Middle East turmoil?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 08:57 | Link to Comment Never One Roach
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More people have two minimum pay jobs. All is good.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 08:58 | Link to Comment Ban KKiller
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Totally transparent taper to follow...or not. Market truth is long gone. Fools remain.

Going to Managua today to have lunch with Edward Snowden.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 08:58 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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Must.....Panic Buy......Stawks....

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:00 | Link to Comment autofixer
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Who is Edward Snowden? 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:00 | Link to Comment Ness.
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30K beat in UE can't top the retarded no volume ramp job yesterday as ES now trading lower than yesterday's highs.  

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:12 | Link to Comment Quinvarius
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I suspect they are about to do a USD intervention here pretty soon.  I don't think they will allow it stay over 84.  I suspect our direct trading partner curreny, the CAD and the MXN are viewed as way undervalued at the moment.  And that is bad for trade. 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:05 | Link to Comment alfred b.
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   This is great news, job market on a tear.....I think that I'll go and order something from... China!     (sarc)

 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:05 | Link to Comment Racer
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What's up with the DAX? Uh, rather what's down with it?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:20 | Link to Comment Bearwagon
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Conergy has gone bust.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:26 | Link to Comment reload
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Re allocation to FTSE

Bets placed on Carney beating Draghi in the print wars.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:06 | Link to Comment Headbanger
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This schizophrenia ain't nothing compared to the anxiety attacks once they get over the hangover from dipping in the punch bowl all these years!

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:06 | Link to Comment MyBrothersKeeper
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10 year treasury explodes close to YTD highs.  Kiss housing recovery goodbye unless FOMC jawbones away from taper

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:14 | Link to Comment Headbanger
Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:30 | Link to Comment firstdivision
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At this rate, we will hit post crisis highs in yield by EOM.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:07 | Link to Comment BlueStreet
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Cashin is probably marinating ice cubes but it would be interesting to hear his view. 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:08 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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If the number was -150,000 they still would have pumped stawks like a free whore....'certainly moar QE coming' and all that. At this point, there just is no point.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:09 | Link to Comment Bold Eagle
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I am just rooting for my boy Stolper. What a brilliant mind!

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:25 | Link to Comment slaughterer
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We took profits on the anti-Stolper trade this morning at 1.2822.  Close enough.  Worried about the schizo effect hitting EUR/USD.  Thanks Tom.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:10 | Link to Comment Conax
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A quick glance at NetDania is illuminating vis a vis what happened to gold and silver this morning.

All those edgy investors made the same move, at the same moment, a half hour before the Comex even opened.

37,000 contracts in silver dumped on the market, and 41,000 contracts in gold dumped on the fire within 10 minutes, in order to get the lowest possible return on those 'investments'.

yep, seems legit.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:11 | Link to Comment thismarketisrigged
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i fucking love it. futures are fucking collpasing, europe is getting fucking pounded, yields are exploding.

 

fuck u wall st and u fucking bankers, go fuck urself.

 

 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:14 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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Wall St in suicidal denial....they're just so certain that if they just pump enough then everyone will come clamoring for their stawks and it's just never going to happen.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:20 | Link to Comment Quinvarius
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Cyprus was the end of the illusion that bankers were not going to randomly decide to pull the plug and rape everyone again.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:25 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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And yet so many still just believe 'it will never happen here, Ben's got my back'....wow such an all-time epic raping is coming.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:14 | Link to Comment km4
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36 Tough Questions About The U.S. Economy That Everyone Should Be Asking | Zero Hedge http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-07-01/36-tough-questions-about-us-eco...

5) Why do 53 percent of all American workers make less than $30,000 a year?

7) Why are 76 percent of all Americans living paycheck to paycheck?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:47 | Link to Comment buzzsaw99
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99) Why do broke ass americans buy fireworks they can't afford to celebrate their slavery to the fascist banksters?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:14 | Link to Comment Goldmans-fucker
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Fuck Ben Shalom Bernanke....

 

 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:14 | Link to Comment Mr. Hudson
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Where I live there is a bunch of work. There has recently been a surge in the job market. How long this will last is anybody's guess.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:15 | Link to Comment ekm
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Anyday now, anyday.

This thing is going down not naturally, but on an order from White House, same as Bear Stearns, Lehman or MF Global.

 

Hold your breath

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:18 | Link to Comment Everybodys All ...
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What makes you think that? I'm curious. What would be the end game?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:21 | Link to Comment ekm
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Every major decision is a product of two warring factions inside the government.

 

One faction likes QE (banks), another does not.

The faction against QE is winning now, IMO (big oil, military complex)

 

Economy is dead due to QE. It will be not only halted, but even unwound.

It's a distater

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:30 | Link to Comment Everybodys All ...
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I agree QE has been a disaster. These people don't understand or care because what they are only concerned with are their banking friends.

The ten yr is my guide and it is moving rapidly out of control.  I'm sure Bernanke would rather taper before he leaves but Yellen, Summers, Geithner or who ever is next is hardly going to go along with a collapse imo.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:44 | Link to Comment ekm
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Benny walked out of the fight.

Now it's Dudley (bank lobby) vs Fisher (oil lobby)

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:23 | Link to Comment ekm
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Any government is a product of a mob fight, it's this simple

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:25 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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End game? 1 world bank, 1 world currency.....I've been trying to tell people this for years it's what it's all about.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:15 | Link to Comment involuntarilybirthed
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Added 195,000 jobs, okay.  Part time work increased by 322,000.

So if my math (and thinking) is right we lost 127,000 full time jobs?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:23 | Link to Comment bozzy
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Youda man!

Lets do some arithmetic - I'm not much good at this but:-

 

Jobs added

(net immigration)

(increase in part-ime roles)

----------------------------------------------------

Net increase in permanent roles

====================

 

Anyone know what that looks like in numbers? 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:18 | Link to Comment thismarketisrigged
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im surprised futures are collapsing.

 

china and japan are fixed, portgual said today they found a formula to bring stability to the economy, the u.s added 195,000 jobs, and the numbers are deff not manipulated or anything, everything is just so great ( sarc)

 

the best part was that portugal found a formula to bring stability to ther economy. ya, its just that easy. if they found a formula to cure everything, where the fuck was this before things got really out of hand?

 

just another bullshit speech to make sure europe does not go crazy. maybe draghi can come out and tell us how good portugal is doing, because that many is very honest.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:19 | Link to Comment Manipuflation
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Fonz had it nailed on an earlier thread.  Good call.

All the same, this campfire from last night just will not reignite.  I am going to have resort to some quantitative gasolining to stimulate.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:22 | Link to Comment Godisanhftbot
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the market is nuts. what else is new

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 09:45 | Link to Comment therearetoomany...
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Fri, 07/05/2013 - 10:10 | Link to Comment Tombstone
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Can you blame the computers?  They are just trying to make a buck.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 10:48 | Link to Comment jpc578
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Congratulations BLS. The markets are baffled. Mission Accomplished!!

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 11:05 | Link to Comment Spigot
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WOW! 13 bps in 5 minutes, 2.66% Lord! That ain't tradin like an AAA Soverign, that's trading like sub-JUNK with a capital J.

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