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Nicaragua Offers Edward Snowden Asylum, Venezuela Promptly Follows

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Update: First Nicaragua, now Venezuela.

Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro said on Friday he had decided to offer asylum to former U.S. intelligence contractor Edward Snowden, who has petitioned several countries to avoid capture by Washington.


"I have decided to offer humanitarian asylum to the young American, Edward Snowden, so that in the fatherland of (Simon) Bolivar and (Hugo) Chavez, he can come and live away from the imperial North American persecution,"


Maduro told a televised parade marking Venezuela's independence day. Snowden is believed to be holed up in the transit area of a Moscow international airport.

And so the "lead investor" principle comes to the asylum world. Now everyone wants a piece of the pie.


Just the headline for now from AFP...


We can't help but wonder how long before the US Marines invade again and take him home...

Via Reuters,

Nicaragua's President Daniel Ortega said on Friday that he had received an asylum request from U.S. fugitive Edward Snowden and could accept the bid "if circumstances permit."


Via LaJornada,

President of Nicaragua, Daniel Ortega, said today ready to grant asylum to the informant and U.S. secret services specialist Edward Snowden, and said he would "be happy, if circumstances allow."


Speaking at a rally against government supporters in Managua, Ortega confirmed that Snowden sought refuge in this country, through a letter delivered in recent days to the Nicaraguan embassy in Russia.

UPDATE: Via Russia Today,

"We are open, respectful of the right to asylum, and it is clear that if circumstances permit it, we would receive Snowden with pleasure and give him asylum here in Nicaragua," Ortega said at a public event.


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Fri, 07/05/2013 - 19:29 | 3725222 linniepar
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'bout damn time!  Good on you, Nicaragua!

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 19:36 | 3725240 francis_sawyer
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They must not require a passport foto [being as there are none]...

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 19:42 | 3725254 TeamDepends
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Yeah, good luck getting that "circumstances permit".

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:09 | 3725326 Cursive
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@Team Depends long as you remain a political pawn...

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:54 | 3725431 Surly Bear
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His name is Edward Snowden.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:57 | 3725441 johnQpublic
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he may survive this yet

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:26 | 3725524 knukles
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Hark!  The vulvaenzola horns blow!

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:50 | 3725594 Whatta
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Look for the headline on alternative media:

"US Drones shoot down hostile aircraft over Atlantic"

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 07:02 | 3726018 malikai
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He should stay put. Maduro's gonna fall. And they will get him in Nicaragua or Venezuela. - lulz!

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 08:41 | 3726115 espirit
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I concur.  Both are co-opted and compromised.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:22 | 3726402 Svendblaaskaeg
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Thanks! (link guardian)

"Recruiter 2: "This job isn't for everybody, you know ..."

Tahir: "So is this job for liars? Is this what you're saying? Because, clearly, you're not able to give us forthright answers. I mean, given the way the NSA has behaved, given the fact that we've been lied to as Americans, given the fact that factsheets have been pulled down because they clearly had untruths in them, given the fact that Clapper and Alexander lied to Congress – is that a qualification for being in the NSA? Do you have to be a good liar?"

Recruiter 1: I don't believe the NSA is telling complete lies..."

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 22:41 | 3725650 wee-weed up
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Snowden needs to be VERY careful...

I can easily see a country which needs $$ (and which country does not want more these days) making a deal with the devil (Obama Admin) to accept him, and then later turn himover for big bucks.

And we all know...

Obama would pay BIG bucks to get him back in his clutches!

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 23:02 | 3725695 i-dog
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'Snowden' doesn't exist! The guy you saw interviewed by Greenwald was a well-rehearsed actor (whose birth name may, or may not, have been Snowden). IMO.

It's a PSYOP ... specifically to let everyone know - who didn't already know! - that they are being watched and had better be good/compliant sheep.

The CIA must piss their pants laughing at some of the comments in these Snowden threads....

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 00:11 | 3725818 Ignatius
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i-dog, we get your hypothesis, but what makes you so certain that it is the only correct hypothesis?


Sat, 07/06/2013 - 06:56 | 3726016 i-dog
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I was initially suspicious just from watching 'Snowden's body language and presentation style in the Greenwald interview (as I first commented here). Then 'Bank Guy in Brussels' added background on the Brzezinski connections that immediately solidified my suspicions.

Since then, one whole month later, everything points to a psyop and nothing points to him being real.

The biggest 'tell' for me now is the complete absence of any photos of him or interviews/photos of his "girlfriend" - notwithstanding that every reporter on the planet is hunting for both of them. Oh, and his quoted background is as phony as Obomber's.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 07:19 | 3726025 onthesquare
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I think you have opened a strong point and every reason to be cautious.  He is getting close to Assange and that may be his undoing if Snowden is a double agent.  Afterall the govenments of all the worlds are owned, coerced or punished, by the USSA.  Snowden was not high enough in the system to be privy to mined data we cannot imagine.  This is just a test.  Do not adjust your sets.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 07:21 | 3726027 malikai
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It's a compelling scenario, but in that thread Urban Redneck makes a solid counter.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 07:44 | 3726041 i-dog
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Apart from the fact that Urban Redneck addressed only one of BGIB's many points, even that was not, IMO, a "solid" counter to the multiple Brzezinski connections.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 08:11 | 3726070 nmewn
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If he's part of a psyop all that has happened in the country, nay the world, is rage by what has been revealed. Nobodiy is shutting up about it, they're questioning the usefulness and "LEGALITY" of 24/7/365 Orwellian monitoring of our communications" for our protection".

Which would seem to me to be the exact opposite of their long term interests, that is, us not knowing we are being monitored so we would continue to speak freely about our future intentions & motivations.

Spying means...gathering the information and the person or entity not knowing they have been spied upon, otherwise they run the risk of acting on planted information.

Like me and you, toying around with recipes for pressure cookers ;-)

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 08:21 | 3726091 i-dog
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See below.

Oh, and "me and you" have absolutely nothing in common.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 08:25 | 3726098 nmewn
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You're absolutely right about

I'll check it out anyways.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 08:59 | 3726137 SimMaker
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I am sort of with I-Dog on this I am affraid to say.


Who will be the NEXT whistle blower after THIS?>.............what a great way to shut everyone the fuck up........FEAR!

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 09:12 | 3726154 nmewn
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Thats fine, everyone has a right to their opinion.

See mine below about what a "contractor" can expect regarding whistleblower law within the "intelligence" community.

It was carved out by "law" protections.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 08:19 | 3726090 malikai
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Think about what happens when you start getting those 'personal interest' stories about him, his family, girlfriend, etc.

People begin to see the Traitor® as a Human©.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 07:45 | 3726042 mvsjcl
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Really, is the issue here his bona fides, or the fact that every instance of butt scratching on my part is being stitched together on some Orwellian tapestry in Utah?

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 08:01 | 3726061 malikai
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All I can say to that is - You nailed it.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 08:14 | 3726075 i-dog
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Are you saying that you weren't aware of the massive data centre in Utah before 'Snowden'? Were you not aware of software backdoors? Clipper chips? Echelon? The reasons people use TOR? Cameras on every lamp post? Are you new to the internet ... or planet Earth?

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 08:31 | 3726106 nmewn
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You mean this?

There's a vast difference between the well read knowing its happening and the Oprah/The View/Kardashian watchers finding out its happening too.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 08:47 | 3726122 tip e. canoe
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true nmewn, but consider this from an analysis of the novel Catch-22

Yossarian lost his courage after seeing Snowden's insides spill out all over the plane.

and consider this from ZBig's Between Two Ages : America's Role in the Technetronic Era

“Such a society would be dominated by an elite whose claim to political power would rest on allegedly superior scientific know-how. Unhindered by the restraints of traditional liberal values, this elite would not hesitate to achieve its political ends by the latest modern techniques for influencing public behavior and keeping society under close surveillance and control."

personally still on the fence on this one.   i would like to believe he's legit, but realize that my "likes" (and those of others like me, as well as everyone else) have been collected, catalogued, wordclouded, & analyzed and very possibly could be used to influence my behavior by creating a "person" who just so happens to have the same name of the character from a book whose title references the situation in which the entire world finds itself at this very moment in time -- a character who's just so happens to divulge a "secret" then gets his guts blown out which just so happens to trigger a loss of courage in the main character that prevents any escape from the situation in which he finds himself.

Catch 22 indeed.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 09:08 | 3726148 nmewn
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Yes, valid points.

I've considered they did it to tamp down dissent, to let everyone know they are being watched and to make everyone shut up.

But I won't shut up and I would expect every freedom loving individual on the planet to not be cowed, they can only kill me or us once...and for what...calling them the sick & evil bastards they are?

We have found out they are doing it in the UK and France as well, its everywhere in supposedly free & open societies and we found out the depth & breadth of it because of Snowden.

I found this of interest...

“Intelligence community contractors have been shut out of all of the recent reforms,” says Angela Canterbury, director of policy at the Project On Government Oversight (POGO). “They received no coverage under the WPEA for federal employees, the PPD-19 for IC civil servants, and were carved out of the contractor whistleblower protections in the NDAA—based on objections from the Congressional intelligence committees—leaving them with no specific protections for whistleblowing under the law. If you look at intelligence contractors, they have no protections under any of the laws. It really is an accountability loophole.”

He can't expect a fair trial here under whistleblower status...and I'm posting this for Snowden's benefit (if he reads it) before some snarky ass lawyer gets inside his head trying to convince him he can.

I think he's legit.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 09:52 | 3726203 tip e. canoe
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it would be really interesting to see if posts & shares & likes of critical comments of USGUV and BigBiz on Fartbook have remained steady, increased or decreased since this whole episode has gone down.

betya someone has that report sitting on their desk.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 10:06 | 3726216 nmewn
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I'd be willing to bet they've decreased...I'd also be willing to bet search engine queries for Snowden-PRISM-NSA have increased.

A footnote in the report

I'm sayin it ain't working if thats what the plan was...a lot of people are saying WTF is this?!?!?

Now if this leads to more cash transactions, fantastic IMHO. More face to face communications (like with myself and a local bike shop owner the other day, instead of ordering over the net with Visa) even better.

The bike shop owner thinks just like the majority of us by the way ;-)

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 10:52 | 3726260 mvsjcl
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No, Dog. You're saying it. Personally, I'm so deep down the rabbit hole--started that journey shortly after 9/11--that I don't even dream of sunshine any more. And as an IT pro for 15+ years, having set-up several data warehouses, there are no surprises for me to be found in the techniques, capabilities and outcomes of data mining.

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 01:10 | 3727712 Real Estate Geek
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Fuck you and your "you weren't aware of the massive data centre in Utah before 'Snowden?'"

Yeah we knew, and we also knew that people like you called us conspiracy theorists.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:36 | 3726330 Iwanttoknow
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 I thimk Snowden is a dupe.He is not a conscious participant.Threr was an aricle On CTr for globalization,putting holes in his powerpoint presentation.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 02:14 | 3725924 faustian bargain
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No way man, they just want you to *think* he's an actor.

Double reverse vampire squid psychology strikes again!

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 09:06 | 3726146 SimMaker
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There is no spoon.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 08:55 | 3726128 Landrew
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YOU sound like a CIA TROLL, YOU TROLL!

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:25 | 3726302 Kirk2NCC1701
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I agree. Either that, or he's over-analyzing it and getting wrapped around the axle with FUD (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt).

His pics are irrelevant, his message and specific info is not. Obomba is after him with a vengeance.

Let's get back on track, and propagate the crucial message to the masses that we've already had a coup, and that O is merely solidifying it.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:29 | 3726306 Kirk2NCC1701
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I agree. Either that, or he's over-analyzing it and getting wrapped around the axle with FUD (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt).

His pics are irrelevant, his message and specific info is not. Obomba is after him with a vengeance.

Let's get back on track, and propagate the crucial message to the masses that we've already had a coup, and that O is merely solidifying it.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 00:41 | 3725835 Ranger4564
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In a world where every body wants money, let's start a pool to fund the counter offer to the offer made by the GOV. We will need our own printing presses... but with so many of us, and modern color printer technology, I think we can keep up with the FED / Mint.  No seriously, we could start a fund to counteroffer to the Nicarguans to honor the asylum... what do you think we'd need, $100,000,000? I'll chip in $1000, and if 100,000 others do as well, we'd have it. 

Isn't that how it's done in high stakes negotiations... counter offers? We the people need to kick our action up a few notches, if we ever expect to get any respect from the Banks / Gov's / Militaries. Fuck the Judges and the rest. We go for the jugular... $100,000,000 cash, for Snowden's safety... might as well include Assange and Manning on the deal and get them all bunk beds in the same dorm room.

How about like I said before, we just take the $100,000,000 and buy us an island, create a nation state, and issue citizenship... we put Assange / Manning / Snowden in charge... Greece has a couple of nice islands for sale, cheaper than the $100,000,000 lump sum. We can get them a boat too.

Who's in to save some lives?

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 02:20 | 3725931 Poor Grogman
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I'll be in it but it will need to somewhere warm, with not too many tourists, good fishing, an airport and no nasty tropical diseases.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 05:06 | 3725988 TPTB_r_TBTF
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Greece has a couple of nice islands for sale


The islands of Greece lie under the eminent domain of the Zionist Euro Union.


Sat, 07/06/2013 - 06:46 | 3726014 Roandavid
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Two of the easier places to just simply snatch him out of as well. Venezuela in particular has a lot of people that hate the government and have deep contacts in the US. There is a large and growing expatriot community in Nicaragua.  He's safer making a deal with Putin.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 08:11 | 3726079 rwe2late
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Sadly, as long as the US government uses assassination and renditions to project its power, no one is really safe anywhere.

 For example:

The US government is known o have employed Mafia and the CIA in attempts to assassinate Castro.

There is no foolproof "witness protection program" anywhere.

No one is safe until residents of the USA demand better of their government.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 08:25 | 3726100 jimmytorpedo
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No one is safe until residents of the earth demand to get rid of their governments.

-fixed it for you

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 08:58 | 3726133 rwe2late
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Everyone will be safer when residents of earth demand better of their governments.

-fixed it for you

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:12 | 3726386 Vic Odd
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Everyone will be safer when residents of earth govern themselves.

-fixed it for you

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 09:03 | 3726145 Ban KKiller
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As I am living now in Granada and other points in Nicaragua I can say most expat here are loud drunks with young whores. Nicas don't need the U.S.they have China and Venezuela. So...having lunch with Snowden in Catarina at the Appoyo lagoon. Nicas are poor but free...

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 14:24 | 3726607 praxis
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It think it's excellent that Commandante Ortega is allowing Snowden to come to Nicaragua; however, I fear that any sort of shift in power might threaten his freedom while a resident.  By that I mean if any of the former Sandinista's are defeated by the rightists in an election, they might promptly hand Edward over to US officials. 



Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:09 | 3725470 flacon
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His name will be Eduardo Rodriguez. 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:01 | 3725308 Stuart
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Unlike in Florida which some schools are now requiring Iris scans for pupils.   Who is the fascist state.   Bin Laden won.  The U.S. caved to terror and now almost all live it each day, just like he wanted.   Even spying now on their own citizens without judicial oversight or warrants.  Talk about being played like a fiddle. 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:20 | 3725352 el Gallinazo
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"Bin Laden won."

Everyone knows that OBL was a CIA asset used against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan.  In 2001 he was dying of a genetic disease called Morfan's syndrome, which involved his kidneys and many other organs.  Since he only had a few months to live under the best of medical circumstances, the Company decided to use him as a patsy for the self-inflicted 9/11 attack and throw him under the bus.  The only video of him that wasn't an actor was the one right after the 9/11 attack, and he denied his involvement vehemently.  It's all sooooooo fucking obvious.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:28 | 3725375 BadDog
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What el Gallinazo said in spades

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:38 | 3725396 francis_sawyer
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+911 <see my comments below>

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:52 | 3725426 JustObserving
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Best estimates are that Osama bin Laden died on December 14, 2001:

First, up until mid-December 13, 2001, the CIA had regularly been intercepting messages between bin Laden and his people. At that time, however, the messages suddenly stopped, and the CIA has never again intercepted a message.

Second, on December 26, 2001, a leading Pakistani newspaper published a story reporting that bin Laden had died in mid-December, adding:

“A prominent official in the Afghan Taleban movement . . . stated . . . that he had himself attended the funeral of bin Laden and saw his face prior to burial.”

Third, bin Laden had kidney disease. He had been treated for it in the American Hospital in Dubai in July 2001, at which time he reportedly ordered two dialysis machines to take home. If you have ever wondered what bin Laden was doing the night before the 9/11 attacks, CBS News reported that he was being given kidney dialysis treatment in a hospital in Pakistan.  And in January of 2002, Dr. Sanjay Gupta said – based on a video of bin Laden that had been made in either late November or early December of 2001 – that he appeared to be in the last stages of kidney failure.

Fourth, In July of 2002, CNN reported that bin Laden’s bodyguards had been captured in February of that year, adding: “Sources believe that if the bodyguards were captured away from bin Laden, it is likely the most-wanted man in the world is dead.”

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 22:08 | 3725632 Freddie
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When did Benizir Bhutto say OBL died? 2001. She was hot for a Pakistani woman. They killed her too.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 08:07 | 3726073 tango
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Just a simple common sense question thrown in the field of mindless conspiracy where anyone can say that anything and be instantly believed sans evidence or reason. If Bin Laden died in 2001 why wouldn't Bush, languishing in the polls and desperate for good war news, simply pull off the same raid that happened recently?  Why wait (if he was dead) with political opponents clammoring about "not getting Bin Laden" when it could have simply been done.

After all, we know the same people who screw up situation after situation, run every program into bankruptcy and mismanage every project they touch are perfectly capable of pulling off highly complex, detailed conspiracies involving hundred operating with pin point exactness (lol)

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:05 | 3725462 IndyPat
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And yet, in spite of all that...the fucker still won

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:43 | 3725579 Bunga Bunga
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History does not repeat, but it rhymes.

Hollywood helped Adolf Hitler with Nazi propaganda drive

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 22:41 | 3725673 i-dog
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Well, duhh ... Hollywood is run by the AshkeNAZIs!

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 23:11 | 3725718 Savyindallas
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That's an insult to Nazis

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 23:31 | 3725754 Cathartes Aura
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sing it brother buzzard.

bird's eye view, above the fray, everything is much clearer with the wide angle view. . .

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 23:35 | 3725759 cherry picker
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It is only obvious to those who care about the truth.  In today's world, truth is an ideal which is often ignored, renedered as immaterial or spun out of proportion.

They have our psychological profiles down pat, know what triggers our emotions of desire, anger and so forth.

For every Snowden story, they either ignore it or give us a barrage of other information in the hopes to bury the truth.

I think Bin Laden was innocent of 9/11 as well.  Upon hindsight it doesn't make sense.  The organization always claimed responsibility for its successful attacks, yet denied 9/11.  They never showed the sophistication after 9/11.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:44 | 3725411 FreeSlave
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Bin Laden won???!!!

NO! Zionists won!

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:28 | 3725530 knukles
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OK, OK, OK  Enuf!

Who cares who won?


We Fucking Lost!

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 00:43 | 3725859 DoChenRollingBearing
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Yes, America lost.

But, not me knuks!  Picked up my gold chip (9 months) today!

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 08:49 | 3726123 DaddyO
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Congrats DCRB!

DOS 12/22/82 for the DaddyO!!!


Sun, 07/07/2013 - 02:01 | 3727774 knukles
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DoChen!  Congrats!
Keep comin' back.
Best thing I ever did.
Best experience of my life, bar none.
SD: 03/21/05

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:27 | 3725528 putaipan
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you're both right- "america will suffocate under their loss of freedoms" obl 2001.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 22:22 | 3725655 Lore
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Re: "Bin Laden won"

I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle. It is the United States which is perpetrating every maltreatment on women, children and common people of other faiths, particularly the followers of Islam... Terror is the most dreaded weapon in the modern age and the Western media is mercilessly using it against its own people. - Shaykh Usama Bin Ladin, Director of Al Qaeda, in an interview published in newspaper Ummat Karachi, 28-Sep-2001

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 23:09 | 3725715 Savyindallas
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Well if you beleive that Bin Laden was a CIA asset and a patsy (like Oswald) -then I guess Bin Laden did win.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:19 | 3726395 Vic Odd
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Bin Laden was created by the C.I.A.

The 'caving to terror" is intentional and a necessary step in setting up the Globalist control grid.

Bin Laden, Obama, Bush....all actors in the ever-evolving plans orchestrated by technocrats and global bankers in the shadows.


Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:35 | 3725387 Taku
Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:49 | 3725590 Freddie
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Awesome. I was friends with a Nicaraguian woman. She was prettier than Bianca Jagger and looked like Barbara Carrera. She was also very funny and did irony and sarcasm. The Nicaraguans are generally nice people. Hopefully, other countries will have the guts to stand up for Snowden. Nice job Nicaragua and Venezuela.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 19:30 | 3725223 FieldingMellish
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Fri, 07/05/2013 - 19:29 | 3725224 slaughterer
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I know a cool guy in Nicaragua he can shack with.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 19:42 | 3725257 Tenshin Headache
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How is he with early morning Spec Ops raids?

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 00:16 | 3725824 Ignatius
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...and Contras and death squads?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:24 | 3725515 mofreedom
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snowden's not gay.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 05:12 | 3725991 TPTB_r_TBTF
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he had a butch girl friend.



Fri, 07/05/2013 - 19:30 | 3725226 Yellowhoard
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Isn't that just Russian citizenship by proxy?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 19:47 | 3725272 suteibu
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Chinese.  Xi just sealed a deal to dig a canal through Nicaragua

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:47 | 3725414 CheapBastard
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Nicaragua fast-tracks Chinese plan to build canal to rival Panama(The Guardian)


The Chinese company, HK Nicaragua Canal Development Investment, is working with the Nicaraguan government on the canal project, which was announced last week. Experts say it may take 11 years to finish, cost $40bn and require the digging of about 130 miles (200km) of waterway.

Canal proponents say the waterway could create 40,000 construction jobs and double the per-capita gross domestic product of Nicaragua, one of the poorest countries in Latin America. The government plans to grant the Chinese company a concession for an initial 50 years, with the possibility of doubling it.



Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:08 | 3725468 earleflorida
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5-6yrs.max. Special Fast Track funds appropriated

Ref:   "Xi traces China's emerging worldview"  by Anand V      [6/25/13]

Ps.  Hillary-ious 'China Pivot' is a red herring with Xi laughing at ussa nightmare as he... Xi himself, enjoys many a real-life 'Chinese [wet] dream'?  great site, and while your their give a friendly 'roving eye' towards, Mr. Pepe Escobar    ;-) 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 22:42 | 3725674 Go Tribe
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Wonder what Carter thinks of this deal?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:51 | 3725423 earleflorida
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straight onto venezuela's petro port-o-call, bypassing panama. but,... here's the beauty of it all-- it will be able to transit humongous super-tankers without the archaic depth, length and girth restriction that are present in the panama-locks!?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:58 | 3725443 McMolotov
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...without the archaic depth, length and girth restriction...

I'll let someone cruder than myself make an off-color vagina joke.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:13 | 3725482 earleflorida
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you are certainly 'crud `e,   micki`mic

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 19:51 | 3725285 Yellowhoard
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My guess is that Nicarauguan citizenship is just a smoke screen for him to remain in Russia.

This way, Putin can appear to be cooperating and Snowden can be squeezed for all he's worth in Moscow.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 08:59 | 3726136 espirit
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...and Anna Chapman isn't half bad.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 19:30 | 3725228 At120
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Now if he can figure out how to get there...

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 19:38 | 3725244 knukles
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BTW, one of my lawyer buds when speaking of the "Snowden flight" which was diverted to Austria, said that the diversion constituted an act of air piracy of sovereign state property of a foreign recognized nation which, under international law constitutes an act of war, for all intents and purposes.
Just mumblin'... I don't know if he's right or I heard it wrongly or what...

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 19:46 | 3725271 fijisailor
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Yeh.  Bolivia can attack with their wrestling cholitas.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:12 | 3725434 Trampy
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You heard it right, but France, Spain and Portugal have denied any wrongdoing.  So someone is probably lying but it's a he-said, she-said.  So put that aside and focus on what happened next, which was the violation of sovereign immunity in Austria, which is a supposedly law-abiding sovereign.  Austria is the real bad actor here.

I can understand that Mr. Morales agreed to divert to Vienna because of an understandable fear that his plane might be shot down if they continued on course with their flight plan to the Canary Islands.  Even though continuing on course might have been the "right thing to do," doing so could have resulted in his own death and unimaginable damage to Bolivia, which he has sworn to protect. 

The thing I don't understand is: Why did Evo Morales allow his plane to be searched by Austrian customs officers?  After Spain's ambasador to Austria came to the airport tarmac and asked Mr. Morales if he could have a coffee with him inside the plane, and the ambassador was invited aboard and looked around and saw no sign of Snowden and furthermore received assurances that no Snowden was aboard, that should have been the end of it!

Why did Mr. Morales allow the Austrian customs officers to search his plane?  He could have refused.  The plane undoubtedly carried well-armed military guards who would lay down their lives defending their president if ordered to do so.  Now that would have been an international incident that would be carried by all the propaganda outlets instead of burying the story as they did.  Would Austria launch a special forces assault on the president of Bolivia?  Now that would be a very clear act of war ... and for what reason?  A rumor of a stowaway?  Did they really search the suitcases of Evo Morales?  We don't have all the details because the story, like all embarrassments, was given very little coverage.

This story made me sick and totally ashamed of being American.  The U.S. is nothing but the biggest criminal enterprise that ever existed.  We should all be ashamed of what was done to Bolivia that night.

But the zombie proles here know nothing about it and couldn't care less, apart from laughing at jokes about Bolivia being a third-world country that we can play with like a toy.

I hope and pray that the criminal sociopaths who run this world end up being hunted down and slowly tortured to death, but it's not gonna happen.

I see three choices: 1) ignore the fact that we're the most evil country on the planet, 2) do what you can to educate and find others of like mind by exercising the 1st Amendment while it still exists, or 3) engage in armed struggle and be willing to die for what's right.

Those who follow 1) are despicable zombies.  But, because I don't have the training and materials needed for 3), all I can do is 2).  And I'm so very grateful to be able to post here.

If I had the fitness, military training, and access to weaponry and explosives, I would surely choose 3).  But I don't.  So make my day and waste your time trying to hurt me.  I don't care.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:28 | 3725532 andrewp111
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He let his plane be searched because he wanted to take off again and go home. Duh!

A check by the Ambassador was not enough. The needed to bring a scanning crew on board to check for smuggling compartments, --  you know just like on the Millenium Falcon.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 22:57 | 3725697 monoloco
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I wonder what the US response would be to some country ordering Airforce 1 to land and submit to a search.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:03 | 3726369 Kirk2NCC1701
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That's SOP for politicians at this level (of power and compromised depravity).

First "do", then "spin".  Ben Dover, then deny:  "I did not have sex with that woman!"

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:17 | 3725497 earleflorida
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we're all int'l lawyers now after the games been played... check mate?!

a half dozen s. american flights leaving russia within less than an hour or so, should provide for a bang up job in air-traffic control... 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:21 | 3725508 andrewp111
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The Empire can do no wrong, by definition.

Nothing to see here, move along.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:11 | 3726375 Kirk2NCC1701
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The real tell is if ppl keep enlisting into LEAs and the Mil.  That will tell you exactly whom they are "Serving & Protecting".

And did you know that it takes only ONE year in the Mil, to get your USC (US Citizenship)?  Whereas it takes 3 yrs if you're married to a USC, and 5 yrs if you're not. 

That also tells you plenty:  The "lookback window" of potential misdeeds or crimes is limited to 1 yr for guys who sign up for the Mil.  / Gee, I wonder why that is?  Could it be because they're all top-of-the-foodchain guys, eager to give up their Yale programs? /s

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 19:32 | 3725231 augustusgloop
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fresh water sharks. awesome. 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:09 | 3725469 IndyPat
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W/ lasers?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 19:32 | 3725232 Unprepared
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Nigga.. what?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 19:45 | 3725269 Bear
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Watch out! With this kind of language you'll be looking over your shoulder for the next 30 years .... just ask Paula Deen

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:22 | 3725359 Yes_Questions
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Cracka Ass Cracka!

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:29 | 3725378 nmewn
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I believe it was somewhere along the lines of "creepy ass cracka" ;-)

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:02 | 3725456 Yes_Questions
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Chris Rock Jumped My Thread!


HA!  Good Catch.


Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:30 | 3725535 mofreedom
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the left is like...totally...intollerant.  freedom of speech ta all ya cack sackers...touch me...

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 19:38 | 3725246 LetThemEatRand
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Plan Y probably, but it's always good to have a plan Y.  

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 19:39 | 3725252 knukles
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Y's that?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 19:42 | 3725255 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:04 | 3725314 francis_sawyer
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Fri, 07/05/2013 - 19:43 | 3725264 dognamedabu
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He should place himself on eBay and offer free shipping.


Fri, 07/05/2013 - 19:44 | 3725266 b_thunder
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CIA is recalling all the the remaining retired geriatric "contras" from 1980s.

Operation Iran Contras 2.0   "Nica Freedom":  Sell weapons to Iran Syria, funnel cash to the Contras. 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 19:57 | 3725300 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Operation Iran Contras 2.0   "Nica Freedom":  Sell weapons to Iran Syria, funnel cash to the Contras.

For the sake of authenticity, they'll need Israel again to do the actual selling of the arms to Iran.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:12 | 3725477 All Out Of Bubblegum
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It was so much harder to be an arms dealer back then. Everyone was always up in your business. But there was an innocence about it all that's been lost.

They'll have to wake up Ariel Sharon and go dig up a Khashoggi to relive those crazy golden days. 

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 19:51 | 3725286 EL INDIO
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Is it safe ?


Is it not where predator hunted down Arny ?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:00 | 3725450 McMolotov
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Get to da choppa, Snowden.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:00 | 3725305 Yen Cross
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   Central America crawls with CIA. The U.S. doesn't need to deport/capture Snowden if he goes to Nicaragua. Then can just quietly suicide him after they find out where all the info(outside his 4 laptops) is being stored. Lot's of people die by snakebite in Central America.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:07 | 3725320 francis_sawyer
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How do you know they haven't done that already?


Quick... Google "Edward Snowden", then click on 'Images' up top... Not a stinkin' foto since Hong Kong [assuming the ones there were, in fact, in Hong Kong]...

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:17 | 3725342 Race Car Driver
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Whoa ... that's spooky.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 23:56 | 3725765 AlaricBalth
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Here is a recent photo of Edward in the Aeroflot lounge at the Moscow airport. He is rehearsing for his opening night at the Teatro Escena 8 comedy club in Caracas.

"Buenos Noches ladies and gentlemen. I'm Edward the Unknown Whistleblower. Have you heard the one about Obama getting impeached over this spying scandal. Heh heh heh... I've got two words for you, President Biden". And the audience roars with laughter.

In all seriousness. Godspeed Edward Snowden.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 00:34 | 3725855 monoloco
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If he's smart he'll go to Nicaragua, at least they have some nice beaches there.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:38 | 3725395 ThisIsBob
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Really!  Has anybody credible actually seen him since HK?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:49 | 3725403 francis_sawyer
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Not even an frozen yogurt clerk at the Moscow TCBY?... I mean, FFS, You gotta believe that one of the British tabloid rags would have already offered a couple hundred grand bounty for some fotos by now... Doesn't anyone in Moscow have a camera on their fone?...

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:50 | 3725418 knukles
Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:52 | 3725425 francis_sawyer
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LOL ~ We need William Banzai to do a quick mock up with Snowden wearing one of those hats & eating a corndog Michelle Bachman style...

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 23:43 | 3725767 Clever Name
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He's having letters delivered to an embassy in Moscow?

Hello this is room 213, I need a courier service please.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:04 | 3725458 All Out Of Bubblegum
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Snowden is a Bankster op. Bruce Goddam Fein is his "lawyer", for Christ's sake.

They don't pull Fein out unless they're trying to confuse the shit out of people.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 09:18 | 3726168 Disenchanted
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Who else has Bruce Fein been associated with in the past?

jus sayin...

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:11 | 3725331 fonzannoon
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I wonder if he has made it too far Yen. If he is suicided then amerika just comes off like a bad episode of the soprano's.

They need him back here alive so they can put him through the judicial system and create a circus and when he is sentenced to death america can stand up and say they did it the democratic way.


Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:18 | 3725339 francis_sawyer
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"They need him back here alive so they can put him through the judicial system and create a circus and when he is sentenced to death america can stand up and say they did it the democratic way..."


No they don't... They'd be just as happy with him playing the role of 'Bin Laden' & wild goose chasing after a man who had been dead for a decade... Meanwhile ~ any 'bad shit' that happens gets tossed into the Edward Snowden file... When Hillary is up for re-election in 2020, they'll finally get a Navy Seal Team to find his "Ernst Stavro Blofeld" double with a white kitty cat...

It's all fucking Hollywood...

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:20 | 3725354 fonzannoon
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I agree with that too. I guess my point is the Dorner option does not work here.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:58 | 3725432 francis_sawyer
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Did they ever find Dorners body either?


Oh yeah ~ Here it is on CNN... [so it must be true]

Probably found Ben Richards in there as well...

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:00 | 3725449 fonzannoon
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No, his body was burned beyond recognition after one gunshot was heard in the house.

BUT. His Liscence was found undamaged so clearly it was him. As Bin Laden was so badly disfigured they did us a favor by not letting us see.

They did release this though.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:25 | 3725365 Yen Cross
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   If they bring him back here to the states, he'll release the information he's got stored off his person Fonz. The spooks will peel off his finger/toe nails and then turn him loose in a piranha infested river with a couple travel companions and some neat props.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:00 | 3725421 knukles
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Show trial time
Or Bradley Manning Redux II, Again
Or a Vince Foster, shot 5 times in the back of his head with a .45 while handcuffed and all fingers broken, ruled a suicide
Or J W Booth after long arduous manhunt, gunned down in valiant self defense effort by 1,235 fully armed police as he was yelling at them from a locked toilet stall.
Or Achmed Tomuchtoffey from Muslim Albanian section of South Boston who set himself alight with his mother's Bic in the microwave while trying to roast his Christian neighbor's pregnant cat.
Or will be found to have been the Unknown Gunman on the Grassy Knoll in Dallas
I mean, whole bunches of shit could happen
But most likely he'll be adjudged fucked-up under the everybody's sick guidelines in the new DSM-V and be treated back to sanity with the Ludovico Treatment*


*take that you conspiracy theorists

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 21:01 | 3725454 francis_sawyer
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Is Richard Dawson still alive?... They could put him on a show there, have Maria Conchita Alonzo play the part of his girlfriend [& have 'Sub Zero' hunt him down with a hockey stick]...

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 23:11 | 3725717 Jam Akin
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Great concept francis_sawyer.  To bring it up to date for the 21st century:  Piers Morgan as the MC and Jordana Brewster as the girlfriend.  

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:58 | 3725442 Jendrzejczyk
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They bring him back here and I pray all hell breaks loose on them. They got away with Manning. but they are pushing the aware citizens too far on this one.


Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:08 | 3725322 Schmuck Raker
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Awesome rum down there. Flor de Caña

Kudos to Nicos for having spine, too.

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:15 | 3725340 Tenshin Headache
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Apparently Venezuala will also offer political asylum to Snowden. That was just tweeted by Greenwald.

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 01:33 | 3727740 Real Estate Geek
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They're pushing it, dangling the potential for a hat trick.  If they make it too rewarding Team America is gonna let some freedom rain . . . rain right down from the skys before swooping in to repatriate Snowden, AND our gold, AND our oil!

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:24 | 3725363 Monedas
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Niggeragua .... I thought they couldn't swim .... Daniel Ortega is still molesting children .... let's face it .... this is a pretty low class option .... poor Snowjob .... can't get no respect !

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 23:24 | 3725741 Schmuck Raker
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"Niggeragua"?????? Why the incessant hate?

Bullied as a child?

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 20:26 | 3725369 q99x2
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Long live Nihhahrawwah and La Revolucion

Fri, 07/05/2013 - 23:23 | 3725739 Oldballplayer
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God. Now we will have to live with idiot anchors rolling the names off their tongues as if they were natives. Or worse yet, John Fucking Kerry trying to sound brown.

Just end it all now.

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