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Desperately Seeking Snowden: Where In The Russian Airport Is The Fugitive Whistleblower?

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Yesterday, infamous whistleblower Edward Snowden, stuck nearly two weeks in the transit zone of Moscow's Sheremetyevo airport, finally got some good news: first Nicaragua, then Venezuela (and moments ago Bolivia) broke the rejection letter trend, and in bombastic and very political fashion, offered him asylum (although as with everything in politics nothing is concluded until he is actually on some Latin American beach). However, a question remains: just where is Snowden right now? After all, following his initial public appearance and video with the Guardian and WaPo, there have been virtually no public sightings of him, despite his current location in one of the most public venues in the world: the Moscow airport.

Reuters wonders how this is possible: "The former U.S. spy agency contractor has managed to stay out of sight for two weeks since arriving from Hong Kong on June 23, hoping to fly on to a country that would not send him back to the United States to face espionage charges. The hordes of reporters who for days camped out in the hope of finding him have long since packed up and left. These days Snowden just provides sport for bored passengers trying to spot him as they while away the hours waiting for connecting flights."

Some are amazed he has managed to stay there for 2 weeks:

"I offered my kids $200 to get a picture of him," Simon Parry, a Briton, said as he waited in the interconnected transit area between terminals D, E and F, a maze of corridors, lounges, fast food restaurants and duty free shops."

 

"The wireless Internet is appalling, the prices are awful, and people never smile. So I commend him for making it 24 hours, let alone two weeks. I might rather face trial," Parry said, sitting with his family at a Burger King outlet in Terminal E."

Nonetheless, there are many options on how to spend one's time:

Could he have been tempted to emerge from hiding to grab a burger, to buy some of the tacky Soviet memorabilia in the duty-free stores, or the diamond-encrusted handbags on sale nearby?

 

Has he ventured out to admire the displays of red, green and blue Faberge eggs selling for 1,000 euros each, or browsed the 200 euro sunglasses, perhaps to improve his disguise?

 

Where he has been washing is also not clear, although some toilets and showers dot the transit area. Sleeping cannot have been easy - the hum of vacuum cleaners punctuates the night.

 

Food in transit area restaurants could be brought to Snowden, even if he dare not venture out himself. He could by now have exhausted the menu at Russian diners like Mama Russia, which offers blinis, red caviar and cabbage soup, or at the two T.G.I. Friday's restaurants offering more international fare.

 

Olga Samsonova, who has worked as a waitress for 18 years at Sheremetyevo, says the airport food is costly and that Snowden may have turned to handouts from Russian airline Aeroflot.

 

"That's where he's got his food from. I can't say much about what it tastes like but it's nutritional, more or less. And they give you yogurt for breakfast," she said.

 

She had seen dozens of people - mostly asylum seekers - take up temporary residence at the airport in the time she has worked there, including an Iranian woman who spent nearly a year in the airport with her children before receiving asylum in Canada.

 

"At least there are lots of places to sit down," she said, standing over stewed vegetables for sale under the fluorescent lights of Terminal F, built for the 1980 Moscow Olympics.

Still, just where is he in the Moscow labyrinth that is a flashback to the eponymous Tom Hanks movie?

The WaPo has some observations:

[Snowden] has made himself lost for nearly 12 days in a mile-long transit corridor dotted with six VIP lounges, a 66-room capsule hotel, assorted coffee shops, a Burger King and about 20 duty-free shops selling Jack Daniel’s, Cuban rum, Russian vodka and red caviar that costs four times as much as it does in the city.

Unless he’s across the runway in private Terminal A, in the watchful company of Russian officials.

Everybody wants to find him. Journalists want to interview him. The United States wants to prosecute him. And now Anna Chapman wants to marry him.

He has made himself lost for nearly 12 days in a mile-long transit corridor dotted with six VIP lounges, a 66-room capsule hotel, assorted coffee shops, a Burger King and about 20 duty-free shops selling Jack Daniel’s, Cuban rum, Russian vodka and red caviar that costs four times as much as it does in the city.

Thursday was a quiet day at Sheremetyevo but a normal one, with the packs of journalists tiring of the unrequited chase. Athletic teams from Mongolia and China made their way through the airport en route to university games in Kazan. Families with young children waited for flights to summer resorts.

Anastasia Shodieva was selling costume jewelry and stuffed animals at a souvenir stand near the Skoda car display, where the journalists camped out last week. When asked about Snowden, she had to be prompted.

“Oh, that sort-of agent?” she asked, adding that the affair made no difference to her.

The transit zone

The United States wants Snowden on charges of theft and disclosing classified information in violation of the Espionage Act. Scores of journalists were waiting when his flight from Hong Kong landed June 23 in Terminal F. No sign of him. Others filled seats on Aeroflot to Havana — airport officials said Snowden had a ticket for June 24 — and flew off, taking pictures of his empty seat.

The airport’s half-dozen buildings cover an area as big as about 100 football fields, set off a traffic-clogged road 18 miles from the city center. A transit zone, about a mile long, wends its way along the sides of terminals D, E and F, which are connected by a walkway so arriving passengers can board connecting international flights without having to pass through passport control and customs, which requires a visa.

Terminal D, the most modern part, has soaring ceilings and a men’s room with an age-old smell to it. Tatyana Yudina, at the register of a traditional, lacquered-wood crafts souvenir stand, shrugged at the name “Snowden.”

Last week, journalists staked out a chain called Shokoladnitsa, hoping they would find Snowden drinking a $7 cappuccino or an $11 nonalcoholic mojito with $9 blini and red caviar. Nyet.

The capsule hotel rents tiny rooms for about $15 an hour, with a four-hour minimum. No one was spotted going in and out Thursday, and the clerk on duty frostily declared that she wasn’t allowed to talk with reporters.

An odd choice

Russians are a little bemused at all that fuss over surveillance. Many believe that the authorities can read their mail at will, listen in on their calls and sprinkle bugs around as they please.

“Wiretapping is so common, so this is not news,” said Alina Gorchakova, a 48-year-old account manager who stopped to chat on a city street.

What doesn’t seem normal to many is why Snowden decided to go to Ecuador, his original destination, through Russia. Once he arrived here, with his U.S. passport revoked, Ecuador has grown less enthusiastic. Russia says he can go anywhere he likes — he just needs a destination and authorized travel documents. So why doesn’t he go? Or show his face?

And Svetlana Chibisova, a 45-year-old tour agency manager, found it strange that an American carrying U.S. secrets would travel by way of Russia, where security agencies are very much in control.

“I don’t understand what he was thinking,” she said. “Is he a little boy with no idea about the consequences?”

Olga Prokopenko, 40, deputy director of a pharmaceutical company, said the Snowden affair sounded like a fairy tale. “How long will he have to stay in the transit zone? What is he eating there, and where does he sleep? Has anyone seen him at all? Strange.”

“I really wish he could be in some other transit zone,” she said, “because you never know what our authorities will do.”

Often, the television news doesn’t add up, said Yuri Artemiev, a 73-year-old retired aviation engineer.

“I don’t like this situation,” he said. “It looks like they wanted to get benefits from him being here and then something went wrong — as always.”

Snowden has become something of a ghost, said Igor Pavlenko, a 37-year-old sales manager.

“I am not at all sure that we are being told everything,” he said. “For example, as far as I know, he is in Sheremetyevo now. Okay, but maybe this is just one version. Have they shown us video or pictures of him in Sheremetyevo? No!”

 

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Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:14 | 3726279 otto skorzeny
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he'll become like that character in that stupid tom hanks movie (which is redundant) where he lives in the airport for years. actually Snowden is at a Moscow CIA safe house drinking scotch and having a good laugh  about how they put one over on the NSA in this inter-agency pissing contest.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:20 | 3726296 maskone909
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Kinda funny that his name is snowden, similar to snow job- or bullshit. Is this some sort of sick joke? After all, it makes one wonder, is this whole thing some part of a disclosure project aimed at informing the masses that everythigng they do and say is being monitored? Thus making the too afraid to do anything about it?

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:38 | 3726335 gmrpeabody
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It's funny..., but Snowden and Boris are both missing.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:52 | 3726350 bank guy in Brussels
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To welcome Edward Snowden

Nicaragua's beautiful girls are already dancing in skimpy outfits

with popular Nicaraguan musician Gustavo Leytón

Great hot babes in his music videos

Nicaragua at its sexiest and most delightful -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7vwBoiZea0

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Still is puzzling why Snowden would reject asylum in safe and secure Russia

In favour of Central / South America where CIA agents are very active and could much more easily kill or kidnap him

Maybe Snowden is partial to groups of petite barely-dressed Latinas in hot weather, like in the video above

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:26 | 3726404 francis_sawyer
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Not even a Planters Peanuts jar in the recyclable waste...

~~~

The NSA is going to have to hire an art student to mock up a Catherine Zeta Jones mosaic with a pissing Jesus fountain to cover their tracks on this one...

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 13:04 | 3726468 Homernomics
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Hey, can we get a different picture of Snowden attached to these MSM articles?  Does he even have a right side profile shot?  (I thought I saw one, but then realized it was just a reversed left side image).  Or do we just get the same photo, attached to the same "news" article, published by our core of "independant" and "investigative" journalists?  

 

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 13:46 | 3726532 Skateboarder
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Sorry, there's only one known photo in existence in which he appears, and it's that one. Live with it pal. Heheh.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 14:01 | 3726561 TPTB_r_TBTF
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CIA's google claims otherwise:

 

Someone posted yesterday, that Snowden ainT gay.

Dunno, got his pants down in that image for somebody...

And he's got clothespins on his nipples.

 

Very interesting guy.  Or ... well...

those images are probably for disinformation.  :-(

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 14:11 | 3726582 TPTB_r_TBTF
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Assuming this guy even exists...

 

... the Zionist Press has created an interesting personality:

 

He asked for a medical leave in May to get treatment for epilepsy.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 14:31 | 3726609 malikai
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Russians are a little bemused at all that fuss over surveillance. Many believe that the authorities can read their mail at will, listen in on their calls and sprinkle bugs around as they please.

Go back and reread all of those "comments" and ask yourself if these answers may just serve a purpose. I'll say these are either carefuly chosen answers, or the message is simply for you to conclude that this is here to stay, live with it.

I love how this non-news always comes to very subtle, convenient conclusions. And of course WaPo would never, ever run plant or conditioning stories.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 15:18 | 3726680 Troll Magnet
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Bingo. These "journalists" usually have their narratives all set up. Then they grab quotes often out of context to support their narratives.

Oh yeah. Our media is owned and run by the Joos. If people don't fully understand that truth, they deserve what's happening to them.

Hey America! You can act like a tough guy until the cows come home. But why are you Israel's little bitch?

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 20:42 | 3727260 MillionDollarBogus_
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Wherever he is, you can be certain that the NSA is watching him, waiting to snatch him.

Now realizing the USA has the power to ground the Bolivian leader's plane in Austria, enroute from Moscow, sends the message that you don't fuck with the NSA and get away with it.

Understanding the world of shit he's in, he's probably not sleeping very well..

He's a slice of white Wonder bread, and the NSA is the toaster.........

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 00:04 | 3727527 Clashfan
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NSA toaster or bread starter? Or both?

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 07:40 | 3727903 Boris Alatovkrap
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Boris check on Saturday, and is find Mr. Snowden in Cinnabon. Is much coveted job for Russian to work in International Airport, even in food court.

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 19:57 | 3729240 Scarlett
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@MillionDollarBogus_  Buddy, the NSA is a bunch of incompetent losers who never got the job at Google and are now getting back at them...  jeesus...

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 15:27 | 3726709 Best Satan in Town
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If Snowden did exist, he's in quite the Catch-22.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 22:25 | 3727453 mofreedom
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i posted he was not gay...wanna fight about it.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:54 | 3726351 General Decline
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" Venezuela (and moments ago Bolivia) broke the rejection letter trend"

Why the change of heart? Did those countries cut a deal with the CIA? Be careful Eddie.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:40 | 3726423 americanreality
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Might have something to do with forcing the reroute of Bolivia's presidential plane.  Wonder how the nsa got the "tip" about snowden being on board.  Me thinks the nsa got played by a phony email.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:54 | 3726443 TheMeatTrapper
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My thoughts exactly. Would be a great way to test your comms and see if they are secure. Send an encrypted email on your most secure channel - and see if they take the bait. If they do, you know they're reading your comms at will. 

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 13:32 | 3726504 Go Tribe
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Maybe he/they pulled the ultimate shell game and he's still in the U.S.  Email strings and phone calls routed in a way that puts the NSA on a cold trail.  The assumption in this whole thing is that the NSA is king of the mountain, perhaps they are not.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 14:30 | 3726616 Waterfallsparkles
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Or he is still in China.  Wouldn't that be a hoot.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 15:05 | 3726669 phaedrus1952
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Tribe, a thought experiment for ya ... prompted by a phrase that arose several months back "factions of the US govenment are waging war on one another" ... S'pose you could gather data to an unimaginable degree ... but did not control the dissemination of same. In fact, you did not make the determination to whom should be spefically "targeted" (we ALL are), you just set up and administered the technology.  Now suppose you had a modicum of integrity/loyalty to the US, would you be upset that your institution was increasingly staffed by non-Americans?  That private companies could/do learn about financial/political/personal info on ... well ... everyone? That said info may lead to crack FBI agents "falling" out of helicopters? That 13 year old girls like Macaila Marshall and her brother could be executed for the transgression of being unexpected houseguests at her father's house (whistleblower/author Phil Marshall) five months back in California? 

Where do you go? To your local congresscritter, the star of umpteen "unorthodox" sex videos your org. has (and who knows how many others)?  This is a very deep rabbit hole and I feel time is very short.

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 00:04 | 3727603 Bringin It
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It's all about the FRNs.  As long as that religious belief holds up, this can go on a long time.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 16:46 | 3726815 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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http://reason.com/blog/2013/07/05/ecuador-reveals-who-bugged-their-embassy

Put one and one together since Snowden has been in contact with wikileaks. In the new normal agencies use contractors usually layered through other government intelligence services to do their dirty work in friendly territory.

Earlier this week, Reason reported on a scandalous discovery made by the Ecuadorian Embassy in London. Staff at the embassy found microphones planted in one of the offices. Ecuador said it would announce on Tuesday who was responsible for the bugging.

“We have reason to believe that the bugging was carried out by a company called the Surveillance Group Limited,” said Ricardo Patino, the Minister of Foreign Affairs, at a press conference in Quito, Ecuador. According to Patino, the company is “one of the UK's biggest private investigation and undercover surveillance companies.” The minister presented photographs of the devices and explained that they could be turned on remotely with a cell phone. Patino also requested that the British government join Ecuador in conducting an investigation to determine the extent of the surveillance.

Timothy Young, the CEO of Surveillance Group Limited, denied Patino's claims. A press release posted Thursday on the Surveillance Group's site states:

We have this morning heard an accusation the source of which is apparently Ricardo Patino, the Ecuadorian Foreign Minister suggesting that we have bugged the Ecuadorian Embassy. This is completely untrue. The Surveillance Group do not and have never been engaged in any activities of this nature. We have not been contacted by any member of the Ecuadorian Government and our first notification about this incident was via the press this morning. This is a wholly untrue assertion.

The Worcester-based company boasts elsewhere on its site that it “combine[s] the practices, skills and experience of Special Forces, Police and commercial surveillance to create an entirely new form of surveillance. They also lay claim to a worldwide network of surveillance teams: “We employ teams in cutting-edge surveillance work across the UK and with teams strategically placed in Europe and Canada.”

The microphones were discovered in electric outlets in the office of Ana Alban. Although they were found in Mid-June during a diplomatic visit, Patino previously explained that the Ecuadorian government decided not to make the information public until this week in order to avoid further confusion and tension. His traveled to the embassy to meet with Julian Assange, who received political asylum from Ecuador and has been living in the London embassy for over a year. Patino also met with British Foreign Minister, William Hague, to discuss potential ways of resolving the tensions that have been growing between Ecuador and the UK over the last year because of Assange's presence. London maintains a constant police presence around the embassy and intends to arrest and extradite Assange if he sets foot on British ground.

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 20:12 | 3729273 Scarlett
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It's pretty Hilarious, the UK is the worst police state in the globe, even worse than the US.  If Churchill were alive, he would be a terrorist bombing these fucks.  

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 15:44 | 3726737 earleflorida
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funny you mentioned venezuela (peru?), bolivia, (ecuador?), argentina (suriname?) and even peru not to forget-- ?nicaragua?...

***Nicaragua is officially under "China's Nat'l Security Policy umbrella?"

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:54 | 3726358 Stackers
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ROFL. Luv the average Russian response. "Well of course the government is reading all our mail and planting bugs wherever they want - thats what the govenrment does - silly Americans"

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 14:14 | 3726587 TPTB_r_TBTF
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Snowden hasnT told us anything, we didnT already know.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 15:17 | 3726688 phaedrus1952
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Exactly right, TB, but this route of dissemination seems to be having more impact than Binney's or Tice's or Sibel's efforts.  Maybe the NSA realized that creating a phony reality phony reality is the only way to get their message through to the masses.  

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 16:03 | 3726768 TPTB_r_TBTF
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yep.

 

a real phony reality real phony reality.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 19:21 | 3727102 ebear
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or a genuine fake

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 19:08 | 3726830 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Wrong. The average American didn't know because they are naive and /or sufficiently conditioned to believe otherwise via the information control channels aka the TV, education system, hollywood, etc. That only includes those that aren't ignorant or down right I like cake dumb. What they don't want you to know is you can NSA proof your communications digitally (at least until they develop the next round of technology and techniques to defeat it).

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 22:30 | 3727460 mofreedom
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he has more than you want to know...it's all out there...you just dont have the code yet...hold tight.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:49 | 3726439 Kirk2NCC1701
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Maskone909, it's Snow Den.  Or S. Know Den.  ;-)

And he needs to get Simon Black's advice/counsel.  Ex-spook to ex-spook.

Sorry, could not resist.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 18:59 | 3727051 ebear
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"Kinda funny that his name is snowden, similar to snow job- or bullshit."

 

It can also be read as "snowed-in" - a condition of nature that restricts movement.

Note that polar bears build a snow den during winter, and where is Snowden now?  In the land of notorious polar bear wrestler, Vladimir Putin.

Also note that the character Snowden in Joseph Heller's Catch-22 quite literally spilled his guts - an idiiom which means to confess or divulge secrets.

as to the question of how many Snowdens there are

http://www.its.caltech.edu/~atomic/snowcrystals/alike/alike.htm

further research here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x-eL4Nvy9s

 

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 00:10 | 3727620 Bringin It
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As someone said earlier, we live in a time with aptly named guys like Niel Cashcarry and Berni Madoff.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:25 | 3726301 trollin4sukrz
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say what you want about him being a gov plant, but it sure is waking up the last of the stupid sheeple.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 13:01 | 3726461 BeaverFever
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He may be just reinforcing the beliefs of those of like minds. The true sheeple who make up I believe over 80% of the US population don't know who your Vice President is let alone what a Snowden is.

Wishful thinking that the sheeple are somehow becoming aware, IMO. The gov't is more likely just gauging how many of us are actually motivated enough to act upon our loss of civil liberties - and track and trace where we are located for future enforcement.

Forward!

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 13:13 | 3726479 sgorem
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don't count me as one of those 80% who didn't know Spiro Agnew is the vice president, dammit!

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 14:06 | 3726566 Uncle Remus
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And the "nattering nabobs of negativism", swine that they are.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 15:58 | 3726759 BidnessMan
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Pretty amazing to think ol' Spiro was the Republican Governor of Maryland before being Nixon's VEEP.  Can't quite imagine a Republican elected to any office in Maryland these days.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 15:32 | 3726718 phaedrus1952
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I'm becoming increasingly skeptical of viewing the US government as a cohesive entity, Beav.  The DHS should certainly prompt concerns, esp if they are the recipients of much of this NSA-generated data (THE NSA itself does just about ZILCH with it, I think, as they have no operational arm). The missive put out by Snowden the other day, to wit - an angry and informed populace is what is most feared by those in power - is what this entire narrative may be all about.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:25 | 3726303 magpie
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He's in one of those newfangled coma states, like Ariel Sharon and Nelson Mandela.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 13:22 | 3726466 socalbeach
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Maybe he's hanging out with Anna.

 

http://www.larazon.es/documents/10165/0/image_content_medium_753021_2013...

 

From article: "And now Anna Chapman wants to marry him..."

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 14:28 | 3726612 Uncle Remus
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Anna's got the hanging out part er, covered.

 

(damn Pimsleur anyway..)

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 14:26 | 3726606 Uncle Remus
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LOL

Oh wait - Jews have a purgatory?

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:57 | 3726360 LiquidityandLunacy
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Well he sneaks around the world, from hong Kong to helmanchyanyena he's a sticky fingered hacker from prism to Paris. Hell take you for a ride on the internet superhighway tell me where. In the world. Is. Edward fucking-snowdon....dooo woo.... Do do be dooowop

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:55 | 3726446 Kirk2NCC1701
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He could also be in the Psy Ops wing of the FSA, where all his little secrets (including laptop passwords) are getting extracted with "good shit".  But I hope that's not the case.

I do think though that the time is at hand or damn close to it, to release the real juicy bits on the NSA.  The problem is, that his hosts would rather make private/national use of it, rather than share with the rest of the ungrateful planet.

The current state can't hold much longer.  Everybody seems to be ante-ing up.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 13:53 | 3726544 Freddie
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F TV, Hollywood and idiot libturd Tom Hanks.

A couple of sites I follow have been saying Snowden is al-CIA-da.

Washington Post is CIA and Reuters is the House of Roth.

 And Svetlana Chibisova, a 45-year-old tour agency manager, found it strange that an American carrying U.S. secrets would travel by way of Russia, where security agencies are very much in control.

“I don’t understand what he was thinking,” she said. “Is he a little boy with no idea about the consequences?”

Little boy?  LOL!  The reporter should have asked her to say "moose and squirell." 

I hope Snowden is the real deal.  If he is CIA then I hope they F up the other guys - not like either one is our friend. 

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 16:25 | 3726794 johngaltfla
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He's locked in the shitter and crying like a bitch.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:11 | 3726286 ThisIsBob
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RIP?

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:29 | 3726313 disabledvet
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worse. he's reading Anna Karenina, pondering War and Peace and pontificating on Crime and Punishment. he would go before the camera's but he feels the planet lacks depth and breadth right now in these matters. Soon I am sure he will appear..."issue a wave" or something...then move on to entertain various other philosophical exploits like "where's my Dad" and "how much for that mojito again?"

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:21 | 3726399 ajax
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"worse. he's reading Anna Karenina, pondering War and Peace and pontificating on Crime and Punishment."  Nah, let's hope he's more of a Vladimir Nabokov sort of fella... I'd recommend he find himself a copy of "Pale Fire" ... Edward, if you're reading this .....

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:25 | 3726368 TeamDepends
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Perhaps he started doing shots of "bourbon" (rubbing alcohol and caramel color) at TGI Fridays and it was too much for his liver.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 13:27 | 3726495 francis_sawyer
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they took the whole fucking bar!

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:15 | 3726289 koperniuk666
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perhaps he is not there at all.....

 

to the uninitiated the russian  border and visa  paperwork systems seem detailed, exhaustive and restistant to abuse. however, in practice the border can be crossed for a few hundred roubles or a bottle of scotch.  Russia is an ideal place to 'break contact'.....

 

and at $10 for a coffee in SHO, its an extremely expensive place to hang out.

 

but what do i know....

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:29 | 3726310 aint no fortuna...
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agreed... I'm thinking he hasn't been there for nearly 2 weeks, if he EVER went there in the first place

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:36 | 3726331 sunnydays
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I have thought from the beginning it is all a game the other countries are playing with the U.S.   I believe China may have put out that he went to Russia and he is actually in China now.   I can't believe China would let him go with the information he has. 

 

 

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 13:36 | 3726516 HeliBen
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Completely agree. This has Chinese and Russian smear western, particulalry US, governments written all over it. Which is reason for coming out in Hong Kong and then disappearing in Moscow.

Not that the information isn't accurate, I just think the 'patriotic hero informant risking everything' is made up and a Chinese and Russian fairytale.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 19:09 | 3727072 Dugald
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We seek him here, we seek him there,
those Yankees seek him everywhere.
Is he in heaven? — Is he in hell?
That damned, elusive Pimpernel

 

 

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:16 | 3726292 Seize Mars
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No one has seen him since Hong Kong.

Whoever he is, wherever he is, he is suffering because of the Empire of Lies. I pray for him.

I want freedom.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:52 | 3726355 aint no fortuna...
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Anybody seen D.B. Cooper lately?

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:27 | 3726408 ajax
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Dalton Trumbo we salute you

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:27 | 3726409 neidermeyer
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How much backstory is there on Snowden ,, seems like he is VERY convenient for Obama as a distraction and to move the "expectations" needle toward 100% surveilance. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he is found to be living the good life with a beach house in Cuba and 3 "maids" to service him.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 16:16 | 3726783 TPTB_r_TBTF
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maybe "they" are holding Snow[done] in Cuba (Gitmo),

 

and "they" donT want anybody to know. 

Because "they" got all that bad press about Manning,

so "they" are quietly getting rid of this nuisance.

As in "they" are pretending that he is still at large...

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:17 | 3726294 Miss Expectations
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Who knew there was an airport uglier than LaGuardia.

How far is it to the closest Russian Orthodox Church?  I'd be seeking asylum there if I was Edward.  It would work for Putin, too.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:57 | 3726451 CPL
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Vegas sunday morning on business class.  There's a an ugly scene.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 14:02 | 3726563 Skateboarder
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Overgrown boys heading back to Balls St. showing their true colors while terribly hungover?

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 14:43 | 3726638 CPL
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My brother and I were heading back from a conference, we had a connecting flight through LAX.  Some of the guys were so hard up they needed ticket, by need, I mean neeeeded to get home.  Managed to sell our seats for the remainer of the day.  Got to see South America doing that.

And yeah the terminal smelled like Johnny Walker and empty wallets.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 14:00 | 3726559 Freddie
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O'Hare is one of the worst.  I have been to Chicago (suburbs) once and never again.  Vegas is another sh*thole.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:19 | 3726295 BobPaulson
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As I said before, the weird theatrical nature of his movement, the apparent unplanned escape makes me think this is a joke. Either that he is a complete idiot, which I doubt because of the job he had. We are getting about 5% of the real story.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 13:00 | 3726456 DollarMenu
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And every twist to this Snowden story takes us further down the road away from Benghazi.

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 00:25 | 3727662 Bringin It
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Re. the link - mostly useless noise.  What really happened in Bengahzi?  Here's a clue. 

It's starting to shape up as something that will make nmewmeuts zato-loving mind exploded.

Or let me put it this way.  Once he finds out.  He'll never mention it again.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 16:19 | 3726787 TPTB_r_TBTF
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you think 5% of this is real?

 

you, you are an optimist!

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:22 | 3726299 Long-John-Silver
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He's out hunting, fishing, and drinking Vodka with Putin.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:27 | 3726309 Uncle Remus
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You didn't say bareback did you.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:47 | 3726438 americanreality
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Safer than hunting with Cheney...

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:26 | 3726305 monopoly
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So Kerry is on his expensive yacht during turmoil in Egypt and the Middle East, Corzine in the Hampton's along with Blankfein and Dimon. Obama travels the world with his children at our expense even though we do not have the money for his vacations and they want to put Snowden on trial for telling the truth?

First put the ones that deserve to be in a maximum security prison with a "cellmate" (do I really need to mention names, again), and then lets talk about this young man who even if wrong, was just trying to inform the country about one or two of our constitutional rights.

 

 

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 19:16 | 3727090 Rogue Trooper
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Agreed and well said.  It's already falling off the radar.  The only lesson these Facist Cunts will get out of this is the need to Chip us all so that Bonesaw need not rely on us carying around a smartphone (sic) with the battery still inside.

For the children, etc, etc.

BTW I'm fuckin' sick of hearing about Mandala.

Is that RAYCIST?

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 00:28 | 3727666 Bringin It
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Re. Mandela. I'm happy Nelson did not want to be seen with Obummer.  Mandela's got some integrity.

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 13:36 | 3728301 Gavrikon
Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:29 | 3726311 Jugdish
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Maybe he's hiding with al quaeda under your bed or in your grandmas underwear or your 3 year olds diaper.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:29 | 3726315 smacker
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There's almost certainly some doors in that terminal which go to/from other places. You know, the kind of tunnels built for the political elites when they need to quit the country urgently. One probably leads to the private terminal where he's staying in a private suite.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 19:05 | 3727068 Kiwi Pete
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He's probably in room 101 at the Novotel and ordering in.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:31 | 3726319 trollin4sukrz
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He is hiding on katki mountain in n idaho just like the snowman chris boyce.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:32 | 3726320 holdbuysell
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Information asymmetry is one of the most powerful weapons against mankind.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 13:58 | 3726553 Cathartes Aura
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give folks just enough of the storyline to engage their imagination, and they'll run with it every time.

irrespective of any facts, people will make up bits to fit their beliefs, and that becomes their truths.

really, this is how it's been since forever, yet people love to rally round a plot, bending and twisting for mental satisfaction, not to mention daily opinion postings.

know this, if "snowden" has met with Putin, then of course he's not hanging in a terminal burger bar.

but I say, if "snowden" is anywhere, pics or it didn't happen.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:35 | 3726322 Yes We Can. But...
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I hope EJS is well, and I hope that more of his generation take a hard look at the Gubmint they will be living under and completely controlled by since it has all their data/communications/info as well as their health in its greasy, ravenous, wretched, strangling hands.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:33 | 3726324 apberusdisvet
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 certainly, all is not as it seems.  Is he already dead?; a prisoner held by Putin for a future trade?; already somewhere with a new identity?

Betcha he never surfaces again; that's my take.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:33 | 3726325 Chupacabra-322
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Welcome to America. Not too long ago we were a normal, highly successful, in fact the largest and most advanced country and economy on the face of the planet. In just a few decades American leadership has gone stark raving mad thanks to infiltration of the Gestapo Government and decadent DHS with Zionist greed mongers. Congress has been feeding the Police State and agencies such as the NSA. Our police have become federalized under DHS and now there are crackdowns on normal peace loving, honest Americans everywhere you look for exercising their Constitutional Rights. Many Americans were warned of what was coming. Now even our trustworthy National Guard is being forced to carry out exercises that falsely claim American Citizens who protest anything are terrorists.

The New America is something normal Americans can't relate to and despise. Oh, I should tell you we have a prison colony on Guantanamo Bay too run by the US Government. Most all of alleged 166 terrorists have never been charged with anything and many have been held for over a decade and are now being force fed to stay alive due to their desire to die rather than stay imprisoned forever for having done nothing.

Would anyone like some Apple Pie and Coffee so we can sit around the kitchen table and discuss ways to TAKE BACK AMERICA?

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:37 | 3726333 Yes_Questions
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My place at dawn.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 13:32 | 3726503 francis_sawyer
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Yeah ~ but kito tells me there are kewl Neil Diamond concerts on the Capitol steps & that everything is OK if you just sit down & get to know people... [& eat a blintz]...

~~~

I find this all hard to fathom...

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:41 | 3726338 trollin4sukrz
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Would anyone like some Apple Pie and Coffee so we can sit around the kitchen table and discuss ways to TAKE BACK AMERICA?

Take it back to where? WAAAAYYYYY to late dude, Amerika is toast as is the rest of humanity. We are going to witness the largest mass culling of the herd imaginable. Grab some popcorn as the show has already started.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 13:33 | 3726507 francis_sawyer
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If there isn't any Apple Pie... Can I have a blintz forcefully shoved down my throat?...

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 19:59 | 3727179 Tijuana Donkey Show
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That sounds like something from a porno. the "throat blitz........" Wait for the caviar baby!

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:37 | 3726416 smacker
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There's a very impassioned 12min video from Gerald Celente on this subject. Someone posted a link to it on ZH a few days ago. It may be somewhere on infowars.com.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:46 | 3726436 Trampy
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I don't have the fitness, training, or materiel needed to take back Amerika, but it would be nice to talk story with you about what can be done.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 16:27 | 3726795 TPTB_r_TBTF
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we'll have plenty of time to talk in the FEMA camp.  See you there.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 13:00 | 3726458 Kirk2NCC1701
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Atlas 400, beware of Nazionist infiltration.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 13:29 | 3726498 Totentänzerlied
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"In just a few decades American leadership has gone stark raving mad "

The " the most historically untrue comment of the day" award goes to you.

Did the cheesepopes pay you to wrote this apologia?

Ever heard of Shays' Rebellion? This shit has been going on literally since the beginning, and if you're surprised by that, you're not paying attention.

Are people really so historically ignorant and brainwashed?

It was all obvious, all along, the whole fucking time, and people still refuse to see it.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 14:09 | 3726576 Cathartes Aura
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many people benefited from the "great american dream" myth, and so it's hard for some to understand how the whole plot-line has been fed to them since birth.  it's very easy to believe that once things weren't as "easy" as remembered from before, that was the turning point.

when, as you say, it's a seed planted from the beginning, and we're about to witness the sordid harvest.

and even the "beginning" of a nationstate, any nationstate, has a backstory. . .

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 16:50 | 3726831 Totentänzerlied
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We are still benefitting, in a twisted way. And others are still suffering. That's how empires, and all complex civilizations, work.

All I'm saying is, you don't get to be a superpower without taking off the kid-gloves and doing some seriously fucked up stuff. 2000 years later, not many people deny that Rome ruled brutally, ditto every other empire, that is simply the cost of being an empire.

My problem is that those who think that if we could all hop in a time machine and go back to 2008, 2001, 1970, ... etc., flip a few switches, cut a few budgets, vote for the guy, etc.; they may have good intentions, but they're nonetheless quite naïve about how the world really works, and how long it takes for a society and nation to reach its zenith of power and corruption, and how that process happens. It is a perfectly natural progression, but there are powerful biases that prevent people from accepting that fact.

I used to firmly believe that 2001 was the turning point, but that was just a product of my ignorance and wishful thinking - no one wants to believe their country is doing the kinds of things we're told only evil countries (of the sort we righteously liberate) do, and ignorance of history makes that much easier. I also cheered on the Iraq and Afghanistan invasions, thought Clinton was a good president, staunchly supported Israel, and believed America would be number 1 forever, just because. That's my mea culpa, take it or leave it. I've made peace with my past ignorance, and I now recognize understand that this is just how society operates, we all initially accept the culture we're raised in, it becomes the backdrop, so natural, we never think to question it - there is no other way the developing mind can function without inflicting serious damage. The problem is that none of these cultures are perfect and none of them don't tell big lies. And that's fine, the world is a harsh place, no culture is above it, just as no human can breathe water.

I don't disdain people for their ignorance or wrongness because these are the default state to which we are all raised, to narrowly varying degrees . I disdain those who try to force what they want on others, by force - particularly government force, which is just hiding behind unaccountability and authority like a coward, and those who use deceit - who don't honestly explain what they want and why (if they did, of course, virtually no one would pay them any attention). People who are capable of doing otherwise should be duly held to account.It is simply absurd to blame people who cannot be any other way, though I maintain that virtually everyone has the capability to change, as a practical matter, few ever will.

I am on the record bashing America quite a bit. That is simply because I believe that it could have been different, that how it was - quite a long time ago - is the closest this species has come to something whose existence I deny the possibility of - good government. But the evidence, to me, is damning and incontrovertible that that didn't last long, and we've changed into something entirely different, something which, unfortunately, is the fate of every nation which can acheive it. I don't waste my breath bashing the USSR, or the Spanish Empire, or Dynastic China, because I don't believe they had a chance to be different, which has everything to do with the historical context in/ by which these states were formed.

The turning points I now recognize are the supercession of the Articles of Confederation, and the Civil War, which set the stage for FDR and the New Deal, which in turn was the end of historical America in any meaningful sense. The rest has been a footnote, and there's no going back.

/rant off

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 21:41 | 3727379 tip e. canoe
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most excellent rant, though i'm still crazy enough to believe that human form still has the capability to breathe water, if absolutely necessary (though i concede that belief is most likely a product of watching too many episodes of A Man From Atlantis as a kid :) )

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:34 | 3726327 Yes_Questions
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One wonders.  If the Transit Zone is anything like I imagine, I wonder how long his health will or could hold up.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:37 | 3726332 OutLookingIn
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How ironic?

Fleeing the "Land of the Free" to seek asylum!

I know. I know. They hate us because of our freedoms and wealth.

Thats why we have almost 150 millions on food stamps, 0.01% of the population owning over 30% of the wealth, while the bottom 90% get to share just 10%, have our body cavities probed at check points, houses invaded by fully armed gestapo squads at any time without warrents, a government that has conveniently forgotten how to tell the truth, a political system that is corrupt to its core and owned by Wall street, a military/industrial complex that is nothing more than an empire in its own light, depending upon tax bucks that the bottom 90% pay, a shadowy/secret arm of government that listens/monitors everything we say, write, go, do, eat, see and know.

Yep. Jealous of all those "freedoms" we enjoy! Oh, say can you see...   

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:48 | 3726347 trollin4sukrz
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Want to know something even more scary than all that shit? Monsanto has hired Black Water. Now that is right into the twilight zone. "Eat the cancer food or die". Fvk me blind are we screwed or what?

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:46 | 3726435 Overfed
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Link?

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 13:11 | 3726475 SgtShaftoe
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They actually own blackwater now - or somebody connected to them does. They bought them. Seriously.

http://earthfirstnews.wordpress.com/2013/07/01/yes-monsanto-actually-did...

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 16:22 | 3726775 trader1
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get your facts right.  that story is over a year old and is bunk.

Das ist natürlich für die Betroffenen mehr als peinlich. Man soll im allgemeinen seine Führungsgeheimnisse nicht verraten, zumal man nicht weiß, ob und wann man sie noch einmal gut gebrauchen kann. Das haupt-sächlichste englische Führungsgeheimnis ist nun nicht so sehr in einer besonders hervorstechenden Intelligenz als vielmehr in einer manchmal geradezu penetrant wirkenden dummdreisten Dickfelligkeit zu finden. Die Engländer gehen nach dem Prinzip vor, wenn du lügst, dann lüge gründlich, und vor allem bleibe bei dem, was du gelogen hast! Sie bleiben also bei ihren Schwindeleien, selbst auf die Gefahr hin, sich damit lächerlich zu machen.  [J Goebbels, 1941]

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:38 | 3726334 Donlast
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If the ex-KGB don't know how to make Snowden "disappear"  and reappear in some remote local airport in Russis ready to be lifted off to some South American jungle clearing, then they have gone down in my estimation. 

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:22 | 3726403 andrewp111
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He could be on a Russian submarine being debriefed, and 3 months from now will mysteriously appear in South America.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 13:13 | 3726480 Yes We Can. But...
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I'd much like to be 'debriefed' by Edward's ex GF

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 00:36 | 3727671 Bringin It
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Anna Chapman looks like the way to go to me.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:46 | 3726344 A Lunatic
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Edward Snowden, fugitive from injustice.........

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 11:59 | 3726362 Divine Wind
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"until he is actually on some Latin American beach"

Each and every S. America beach with crossed palms and a hammock will be watched.

As long as he is on the lam outside of China or Russia, he will live his life like Yassir Arafat.

Never two nights in the same place.

As soon as they offer a reward, he will be picked up.

He is considerably different than UBL.  Snowden's followers are not fanatics, it's not a religious or cultural thing and few are they willing to die for him.

Most would opt for the cash instead.

 

My guess is that Snowden is safely tucked away under the watchful eyes of Sluzhba Vneshney Razvedki  (SVR),  Russia's primary external intelligence agency.

Their HQ is in the Yasenevo District of Moscow.

Hey Boris, what are you doing tomorrow afternoon?

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 20:25 | 3727219 Kiwi Pete
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He's different then OBL in that he's probably still alive:

 

http://www.globalresearch.ca/osama-bin-laden-dead-or-alive/15601

 

(Article from 9 October 2009)

 

They still couldn't find their arse with both hands so I think he'll be fine. Look at the debacle with forcing down the Bolivian presidents plane."Oh yes, we're sure he's on board!" Ha Ha Ha!

Their 'Best Intelligence" (Ha HA!) is obviously that he's in Moscow or they wouldn't have done that. Although as events transpired he could be on the space station and they wouldn't know different. So much for all the $$$ billions wasted on them. It's time they were put out to pasture and you brought back the Keystone Cops.

 

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:24 | 3726365 22winmag
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If any of these little central and south American nations take in Snowden, they may just get Panama'ed for defying the empire...

 

http://www.amazon.com/The-Panama-Deception-Elizabeth-Montgomery/dp/B000KJU1K0/

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:05 | 3726372 Dr. No
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Only fools ( the media) believe he is in the airport.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 14:52 | 3726649 imapopulistnow
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He's not???

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:06 | 3726376 q99x2
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Maybe he's posing as a tranny in the dow transportation index.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:45 | 3726430 ebworthen
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+1 - He's probably rotating wardrobes, one in each sector of the airport.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 15:42 | 3726736 Disenchanted
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If he really exists, he's probably still in his Booz Allen cubicle laughing his ass off...

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:18 | 3726379 JimmyRainbow
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reminds me of "sneakers"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sneakers_%281992_film%29

a few documents are not enough for that trouble. maybe he has a set of masterkeys or something with him.

or he gets a new face as a gesture of mercy for bringing good agitprop to the people

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:07 | 3726380 Winston Churchill
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If I was him.On a slow boat from Vladivostock to South America.

Basic tradecraft would be to double back.

As second choice. north thru' Latvia , Lithuania or Finland.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:09 | 3726382 Cacete de Ouro
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Snowden is like the Bolivian gold - missing in action...or...its not where you think it is....

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 21:20 | 3726383 ToNYC
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PR ponzi-talkers are hiring toothpaste re-stuffers big time. Crowd-sourcerers are finding Waldo for Master and nobody new needs to get in the House.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:12 | 3726385 johny2
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the sheep are simply that, a sheep. too much to expect from them to one day turn and confront the wolves

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:19 | 3726393 andrewp111
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Occam's razor. No one has seen him in the transit zone. The simple explanation is he is not there. The Russians are fooling everybody and Putin is having a good belly-laugh.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 16:23 | 3726791 dvfco
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I guess it shows just how unable we have become to think beyond what we are told by the media.  "They said Snowden was in the transit zone but nobody has seen him, so what part of the transit zone could he be spending time waiting for asylum?"  That seems to be the train of thought and depth of thought of most.  The reality is, since the video of him entering the transit zone was shot, nobody has seen him.  It's been more than 24 hours since then and he was in the country with a very strong military and secret service.  As such, he could be anywhere on earth.  Unfortunately, the fact that the US has real-time satellite imagery of every place on earth, taps on every mode of communication, etc., would mean they likely felt pretty sure he was on the plane with Morales.  So, it tells me they are going to after him 'till death does he part.  Forcing down another country's AF1 is just short of a war act.

I'm just glad to see Obama has gone from BS Acadamy Award Nobel Peace Price winner to possibly the most hated man on the planet.  I was an early hater and I am just disappointed that the real Obama is seen after he's already been re-elected and Congress is too scared to impeach the fucker.

The person who guesses exactly right in these posts will know the won when the black SUVs show up in front of their house.

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 01:19 | 3727728 Bringin It
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re. Congress is too scared to impeach the fucker.

Too scared is not the point.  Congress is not your friend.  With some few exceptions, they're all in the same boat.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:31 | 3726410 ToNYC
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Chillin' with Vladski in the real lounge.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:32 | 3726415 exodus11
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Exactly. He's not in the airport. It's just one big cover story for the sheeple and the US govt.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:37 | 3726417 Downtoolong
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He must have some third party assistance by now. If not, after listening to Musak and endless flight updates on the Airport PA for this long I imagine him sitting in a janitors closet somewhere having a deep conversation with a mop and bucket.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:40 | 3726418 YHC-FTSE
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"Infamous" Snowden, "Bombastic and very political", and interviews with "Olga", "Igor", and "Yuri". All apparently bemused by all the fuss over nothing, like blanket surveillance of the entire planet. Oh yes, apparently we Brits now use "dollars" to figure pocket money and rewards for our kids.

There's crap, bullshit, then there's WaPo.

The next whistleblower has to be someone from the upgraded version of OPERATION MOCKINGBIRD. It's been over 30yrs since we found out the extent of thousands of journalists writing propaganda for the US govt in the national and international press, and quite frankly, the shit that gets aired and printed by the msm these days is beyond ridiculous, surpassing every definition of twisted, obsfucated, half truths, omissions, lies and incitement. 

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 13:33 | 3726506 smacker
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"...and quite frankly, the shit that gets aired and printed by the msm these days is beyond ridiculous, surpassing every definition of twisted, obsfucated, half truths, omissions, lies and incitement."

I second that. And complaining to the UK BBC & Sky has zero effect.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 14:11 | 3726581 YHC-FTSE
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You complained too? I still have the BBC editorial complaints dept in my address book, and I've been sorely tempted to hire lawyers to sue those liars. But my need to be able to buy food prevailed in the end. 

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 15:39 | 3726730 smacker
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Sure. The BBC eventually kill-filed me from posting comments on their news articles and introduced "moderation" to purge itself of unwanted contributors. Here's just one e-mail I sent to Aunty a while back which was never replied to:

"As many of us suspected, the sheer scale of Savile's paedophilia
activities is horrendous. Much of this happened when he was
employed by the BBC, undoubtedly being paid a large salary.

*It is inconceivable* that many people within the BBC did not know
of the rumours and allegations being made about him during his
time with you. Thus, the BBC has a lot of questions to answer
about why you did not at the very least investigate the data and
probably sever connections with him, if only to protect the BBC's
public image. Instead of this, the BBC did nothing. When he died
you ran TV programmes 'bigging' up the man.
It has the smell of BBC people themselves choosing to ignore the
allegations for suspicious reasons.

Something is clearly rotten to the core with the BBC and the
government must take action against it. A major break-up would
be appropriate."

I know a guy who posts on Usenet who has had a very long battle with the BBC regarding its manipulation of reporting news about Mr Blair's peccadillos.

And I've sent so many e-mails to Sky News on <news@sky.com>, none ever replied to.

Since John Riley took over as Chief Editor at Sky News, the station has slipped into becoming a commercial version of the BBC; a peddler of social/health/women's issues and reading out political and Met Police statements to big up "the system". Major news issues are relegated to the "and in other news" department. The illegal spying by GCHQ and NSA disappeared off their news after a coupla days.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 14:19 | 3726593 Cathartes Aura
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complaining has zero effect because they are doing the job they are instructed to do.

end of.

all media should be filtered though heavy bullshit detectors, and it pays to keep ones mind clear.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:39 | 3726421 ebworthen
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Sadly, when I mention the NSA at the store or on the phone half don't seem to care.

"Well, they monitor our credit, they know what we are buying in the store, merchandisers and marketers track what we do online."

Aquiescence, acceptance , surrender to the machine.

Gradually the expectation of "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness" morphs into "Sex, Money, and a bangin' Cell Phone."

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:42 | 3726427 Col. Parker
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He may be in Latin America already with a new identity, and we'll never hear about him again.  The Bolivian President's plane was a diversion, he was on a different plane.  

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:56 | 3726449 YHC-FTSE
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Let's hope so. As long as he is somewhere other than the places the goons and the hacks have staked out, he's a step ahead of rendition. 

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:59 | 3726455 Dr. No
Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:50 | 3726437 barkingbill
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Sat, 07/06/2013 - 13:00 | 3726448 SgtShaftoe
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Airport transit zones can be whatever the host government decides it to be, and not necessarily attached to the airport. Hotels, offices and detainment facilities miles away from the airport, or even in the city can be, and are considered "transit zone" areas for many airports.

They could have even declared a temporary transit zone out in some forest dacha, where Snowden could be sitting there drinking vodka, eating BBQ and mushrooms. who the fuck knows where he is. Wherever he is, he is surely under the watchful eye of the Russian intelligence service for his safety, and in the interests of comrade Putin, whatever those happen to be at the moment.

If he's still in Russia, it would be in his best interest to GTFO ASAP. Putin can not be accurately described as a compassionate or merciful fellow (Chechnya). Good luck Edward and Godspeed.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 13:42 | 3726524 Totentänzerlied
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The question is not "is Putin a good guy", it's "does Putin have something to gain from helping Snowden" (taking this at face value and assuming Snowden is in Russia). As I've said before, Russia is an odd choice, as it pioneered modern domestic surveillance.

Things are not what they seem and most of the story is not being told.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 12:58 | 3726453 Smegley Wanxalot
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Spokesidiots for the fed'l govt like to tell us how Snowden really didn't tell us anything that we didnt already know ... so why the big clandestine manhunt and forcing down of other president's planes to get him?

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 13:04 | 3726467 SgtShaftoe
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They are trying to dissuade any "new" Snowdens with a huge dose of paranoia and fear. You don't want to end up like Michael Hastings do you??

Most people's principles aren't stronger than their fear of rendition, torture and a painful death.

Sat, 07/06/2013 - 16:21 | 3726789 phaedrus1952
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Smeg, there is NO doubt that Snowden's info (and a whole lot more) has been public knowledge for years. Please do a google on Binney and esp Tice to grasp the almost unimaginable sweep of info and its real-world blackmail effects (Judge Robert's illegal adoptions being one recent example) on all our lives. 

Sarge, your mention of that extremely heroic man, Michael Hastings, points out the dissimilarity with the current Snowden situation. People such as Deborah Palfrey, Sonny Bono, Senator Wellstone and a tragically long list of others who either said they possessed - or were seeking to posess - highly damaging info to powerful people or institutions experienced violent deaths. I do not think someone in Edward Snowden's stated position could have, frankly, fared differently.

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