15 Signs That The Quality Of Jobs In America Is Fading Fast

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Submitted by Michael Snyder of The Economic Collapse blog,

Trying to find a job in America today can be an incredibly frustrating experience.  Most of the jobs that are available seem to pay very little, and there is intense competition for just about any job that is open.  But it wasn't always like this.  When I was in high school, I was immediately hired when I applied for a job at McDonalds because they were so desperate for workers that they would hire just about anyone that could flip a burger.  But in this economic environment, a single nationwide hiring event conducted by McDonalds resulted in a million job applications, and only a small percentage of those applicants were actually hired.  Our economy simply does not produce enough jobs for everyone anymore, and the percentage of "good jobs" continues to decline.  That means that it is getting really hard to find a job that will enable you to support a family, and a lot of people end up doing jobs that they are massively overqualified for.  But when times are tough, people are going to do what they have to do in order to survive.

One thing that we have seen in recent years is an explosion in the number of "temp workers" in America.  Even some of the largest companies in America are using them.  They like the flexibility of being able to bring in workers when they need them and of being able to dump them the moment they don't need them anymore.  Sadly, those that work in the "temp industry" often work in deplorable conditions for very little pay.  The following is a brief excerpt from an absolutely outstanding Pro Publica article...

In cities all across the country, workers stand on street corners, line up in alleys or wait in a neon-lit beauty salon for rickety vans to whisk them off to warehouses miles away. Some vans are so packed that to get to work, people must squat on milk crates, sit on the laps of passengers they do not know or sometimes lie on the floor, the other workers’ feet on top of them.

 

This is not Mexico. It is not Guatemala or Honduras. This is Chicago, New Jersey, Boston.

The people here are not day laborers looking for an odd job from a passing contractor. They are regular employees of temp agencies working in the supply chain of many of America’s largest companies – Walmart, Macy’s, Nike, Frito-Lay. They make our frozen pizzas, sort the recycling from our trash, cut our vegetables and clean our imported fish. They unload clothing and toys made overseas and pack them to fill our store shelves. They are as important to the global economy as shipping containers and Asian garment workers.

 

Many get by on minimum wage, renting rooms in rundown houses, eating dinners of beans and potatoes, and surviving on food banks and taxpayer-funded health care. They almost never get benefits and have little opportunity for advancement.

But these are the types of jobs the U.S. economy is "creating" these days.  Low paying part-time jobs are continually becoming a bigger part of the economy.  This is one of the primary reasons why the middle class in America is shrinking.

You can't support a family on what most of these part-time jobs pay.  But our economy is not producing many high quality full-time jobs these days.  The average quality of American jobs just continues to sink.

The following are 15 signs that the quality of jobs in America is going downhill really fast...

#1 The number of part-time workers in the United States has just hit a brand new all-time high, but the number of full-time workers is still nearly 6 million below the old record that was set back in 2007.

#2 In America today, only 47 percent of adults have a full-time job.

#3 Even though the U.S. economy created nearly 200,000 jobs in June, the number of full-time jobs actually decreased.

#4 There are now 2.7 million temp workers in the United States - a new all-time high.

#5 One out of every ten jobs in the United States is now filled through a temp agency.

#6 The U.S. economy has actually lost manufacturing jobs for four consecutive months.

#7 The official unemployment rate has been at 7.5 percent or higher for 54 months in a row.  That is the longest stretch in U.S. history.

#8 According to one recent survey, 76 percent of all Americans are living paycheck to paycheck.

#9 At this point, one out of every four American workers has a job that pays $10 an hour or less.

#10 High paying manufacturing jobs continue to be shipped overseas.  Sadly, there are fewer Americans employed in manufacturing now than there was in 1950 even though the population of the country has more than doubled since then.

#11 Today, the United States actually has a higher percentage of workers doing low wage work than any other major industrialized nation does.

#12 The U.S. economy continues to trade good paying jobs for low paying jobs.  60 percent of the jobs lost during the last recession were mid-wage jobs, but 58 percent of the jobs created since then have been low wage jobs.

#13 Back in 1980, less than 30% of all jobs in the United States were low income jobs.  Today, more than 40% of all jobs in the United States are low income jobs.

#14 At this point, an astounding 53 percent of all American workers make less than $30,000 a year.

#15 According to a study that was released by the Center for Economic and Policy Research, only 24.6 percent of all jobs in the United States qualify as "good jobs" at this point.  In a previous article, I detailed the three criteria that they used to define what a "good job" is….

#1 The job must pay at least $18.50 an hour.  According to the authors, that is the equivalent of the median hourly pay for American workers back in 1979 after you adjust for inflation.

#2 The job must provide access to employer-sponsored health insurance, and the employer must pay at least some portion of the cost of that insurance.

#3 The job must provide access to an employer-sponsored retirement plan.

All of this is absolutely heartbreaking.

Once upon a time, just about any adult that was willing to work hard in America could go out and find a good paying job that would support a middle class lifestyle.

Now those days are gone forever.

But different conditions exist in different parts of the country.

What are you seeing in your area?

Are good jobs difficult to find?

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Sun, 07/07/2013 - 12:52 | 3728217 Smegley Wanxalot
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Today when they ask if you can "flip a burger" they are talking about jobs in prostitution.

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 13:48 | 3728311 Headbanger
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650,000 defense workers start furloughs Monday and no Blue Angles flying around either

http://money.cnn.com/2013/07/07/news/economy/defense-furloughs/index.htm...

And what can we expect this to do to CONsumer CONfidence?

 

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 14:15 | 3728399 max2205
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Its a depression. ..what do you expect.....it'll get better when we exit this downturn

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 14:54 | 3728513 BigJim
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 In a previous article, I detailed the three criteria that they used to define what a "good job" is….

    #1 The job must pay at least $18.50 an hour.  According to the authors, that is the equivalent of the median hourly pay for American workers back in 1979 after you adjust for inflation.

The median huh? So, 50% of all American workers will never have - by definition, can't have - a 'good' job.

    #2 The job must provide access to employer-sponsored health insurance, and the employer must pay at least some portion of the cost of that insurance.

    #3 The job must provide access to an employer-sponsored retirement plan.

it's the state's various incentives/regulations regarding employer provision of insurance and pensions that are distorting those industries in the first place (as well as the rest of the economy).

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 15:32 | 3728617 GetZeeGold
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.....it'll get better when we exit this downturn

 

With Obamacare and amnesty we will NEVER exit this downturn

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 22:01 | 3729558 saunhi
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There were articles in the media two years ago that described how our  corporate "leaders" were taking the massive govt stimulus to grow business offshore, instead of helping U.S. citizens.

Numerous corporate campuses now exist in Hyderabad, Bangalore, etc.

They are attempting to say that MIT, Notre Dame, Berkley, Carnegie, Penn, Pitt, Michigan, Cal, Texas, Florida, Georgia Techs and secondaries are not creating enough technologists [with no citizen rights] to meet demand.

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 15:09 | 3728556 Never One Roach
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The 11.7 million Americans still unemployed are finding their wallets getting even lighter as the sequester federal spending cuts kick in.

While the mandated decreases have been slow to trickle into the real economy, the unemployed are feeling perhaps the first big jolt.

As of July 1, the average weekly benefit of $289 will fall by $43 a week, adding pressure at a time when the labor market is trying to find its bearings but has yet to generate the kind of employment that would indicate a strong recovery.

 

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/jobless-big-hit-sequester-130000699.html

 

Watch SSDI claims rise. BTW, I think I twisted my neck reading ZH this morning...extremely painful and emotionally distressful...my entire family is distraught as a result....[and so on]

Where's that SSDI office, again?

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 15:25 | 3728597 Headbanger
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Yeah, no shit it's a depression professor. Now don't hold your breath waiting to exit this downturn...

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 15:34 | 3728628 sgt_doom
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max2205, the dismantling of the American economy, i.e., going from a productive and consumer-based economy to a fantasy finance-based economy (Ponzi schemes to the max) isn't a downturn, dood, it's called the Great Deleveraging, which evidently you can't comprehend!

Basing everything upon selling debt (which is what this credit derivatives/securitizations/credit default swaps is all about) isn't a true economic system, simply a scam that the super-rich use to make themselves even richer, while transforming the real creators of this society into serfs!

Many of us have been protesting the offshoring of American jobs (and as Paul Craig Roberts says, with every job offshored, so goes a piece of the GDP), since the late 1970s, and jobs offshoring in the USA hit critical mass in 1999, when American became a net tech services importer!

Offshoring jobs, bringining in foreign visa scab workers, creating new categories of foreign visa worker definitions, while increasing existing quotas, through the so-called immigration bill (which also contains that national biometric database which has been filled with that information culled from those TSA invasive full-scan devices), and previous "free trade agrements" with the death knell being the latest so-called free trade agreement, the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP).

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 14:19 | 3728407 Jack Burton
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I don't know the figures, but just imagine for a moment if you looked at America's economy minus direct military spending. It is known that the USA spends around $1,000,000,000 a year on Military and Security, plus veterans costs.

So imagine the US civilian economy and it's jobs creation record. Imagine it without all the highpaying jobs in the Military/Security Industrial complex. All paid for by taxes or borrowed money. If we strip out that Government sector, and looked at America's productive civilian economy, the economy that "pays taxes", not lives off of taxes, WHAT would it look like?

I believe it would highlight the fact that the US economy is already collapsed and that is that!  Most good paying jobs in America, out side of health care and law, are from direct US military spending. I wonder about the hundreds of thousands of Americans who live the good life, with top pay and benefits and all they do is spy on us taxpayers! CIA, NSA, FBI, DEA, ICE etc. etc. All earn high pay, get top of the line benefits and retire early. Strip them out of the averages, and America is a corpse of an economy. Dead!

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 14:56 | 3728519 BigJim
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$1,000,000,000? Dude, you need another cluster of zeros. I doubt $1B covers the cost of military base air conditioning in Afghanistan.

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 15:03 | 3728545 bonin006
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Right BJ - 3 zeros missing.

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 18:07 | 3729020 Bollixed
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Just goes to show you how truely obscene those numbers really are when you write a big long string of zeros and it's still off by a factor of 1,000...

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 15:36 | 3728631 sgt_doom
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That "defense spending" curve upwards, when graphed, exactly correlates to the national debt, also when graphed.

No mystery there. . . .

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 17:56 | 3728995 Binko
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The US economy is definately collapsed. MOST, by far, of the good paying jobs are Government. I live in a mid-sized Northern Califorian city that is the County seat. Lots of poor struggling people around here. But when you meet somebody who is doing well the chances are excellent that at least one member of the family works for the city, county, state or Feds. 

Sure, we spend better than a trillion a year on the military. But our system now is so dysfunctional, with all the leeching dysfunctional pieces so tightly bound together and so supportive of each other, that reform is essentially impossible. It's depressing as hell, but I now believe that things will only get worse in this country until it finally busts apart and the individual states or coalitions of states will be freed to do things differently. 

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 18:03 | 3729004 highwaytoserfdom
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HEALTH CARE  the Blues like GSE's have been "quasi public" since FDR's time.   We have made it the most expensive health care in the world... by far.... Cuba has better health care in most measurable instances.  "Doctors in Cuba can make more driving cabs and working in hotels, but they don't. They're just very dedicated" Cuba also supplies many many doctors to South America and also has European health tourist.    Go visit an emergency room  and talk to the doctors in the US  1099 employment, insurance  education and foreign trained doctors..  and more importantly doctors are allowed to be doctors without massive insurance/regulation/overhead...  Unworkable regulations..   Education has slipped to 26 or 27th of industrial countries...  Heck health care community affairs disbarred  attorney (??) made higher wages than POTUS.  I have great respect for doctors, but am very angry about the public health food system..  GMO massive  antibiotics and the whole welfare state of non-profits and GSE style goody two shoes and "health care middlemen sinecurist"..   Wait until you see what the Fed's are doing with state regulated reserves  with the public insurance companies......     Sick Sick Sick....  Go to a supermarket, Baby formula locked in the front while 2 isles of pet food...      

Health care does not concern the 1% they have no interest in anything except world lowest labor, or agencies technical equipment sales and overuse... 

THIS IS WHAT MAKES US SAFER...   NOT!   Snowden makes us safer....   The day Sunday after the Boston mess you had  NSA Fienstien and Rogers (RNC/DNC) on MSM with multiple military offense drone sales commercials and this Congressman that won by 111 votes and this Senator had 10's of billions in security contracts...  Look no father than the mirror we keep electing them...    Now secret courts..

 

 

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 00:31 | 3729910 Mr. Schnitzel Face
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Exactly my sentiments. They have put into place substitutions to mask reality. Note that all of these sustituted sectors could be shut off like a switch. One that the govt has exclusive control over.

 

Then what.....check mate.

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 14:18 | 3728408 Gordon Freeman
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I would be happy to find American "workers" to take care of the many low-level tasks I can put them to work doing, just in my own affairs ($20/hr).  By far the biggest problem is finding them, as they are simply not interested--low level work is "beneath" them.

There is an epidemic of narcissism and personality disorders in America today, and a huge number of young, able-bodied Americans today consider themselves the "star" of their own private fantasy life, and just can't make peace with the fact that the vast majority of them wil not, in fact, wind up running the show. Therefore, they're not interested.

The welfare state loves this, and is happy to keep them on the payroll.

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 14:29 | 3728426 Dingleberry
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Gordon is correct. I've heard numerous stories around here of farmers paying 10-20 bucks an hour for kids to help bail hay. No takers. Too hard.

I've heard of many companies like trucking offering to even pay for training up front. My brother did it, but many in his class quit.

Most applicants cannot pee clean (i.e. drug-free).

I had my first job when I turned 15. I WANTED to work and pay my own way. Kids today do not. At all. They vote for Obama or whoever promises the most for the least.

Hope n' change, bitchez.

There is no shortage of jobs.  Anywhere. If you want work, you'll find it.

Let them suck it. And stay in mom's basement until they are 40, mom dies and then they can move upstairs.

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 15:02 | 3728542 BeagleOne
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Get rid of the prison-industrial complex where low level drug use gives the state slave labor.

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 16:22 | 3728743 NidStyles
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I don't think private companies having drug free standards are caused by the prison system.

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 22:19 | 3729600 Almost Solvent
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That's some deadpan snark. So deadpan most would miss it. Much better than the majority of snarky comments on this board.

Bravo!

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 17:38 | 3728950 Miffed Microbio...
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When I was 16 I was desparate for a summer job and my boyfriends family begrudgingly agreed I could help during haying season. My jobs was to drag 8 bales in a stack so the squeeze could grab it and load them on the flat bed. The boys had a good laugh at the city girl trying to do that. By the third day I was burnt to crisp, every muscle in my body was on fire and the blood from the blisters was soaking through the cloths I wrapped around my hands. That was the hardest work I ever did in my life and will never forget every second of agony I went through. The farmer's wife took pity on me at the end of the week. She figured I would have quit after the first day. She offered for me to work in the milking parlor instead. She showed me how to get the cows into the holding pen,open the chute so each cow goes into its stanchion and how to put the milkers on. This was heaven! They designed it so the cows feet were at chest level. No bending over! I could do this! Whamm. I finally came to. I was lying on the cement floor and the farmers wife was gazing down at me. " That was cow number 14, she kicks."I was trying to breath, staring at the red bruise starting to form on my breastbone as she pointed to a chalk board filled with numbers. " Forgot to tell you about the kickers. Don't suppose you'll forget #14 any time soon. Well I'll be feeding the calves and be back in a few hours to see how you're doing"

Miffed;-)

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 14:31 | 3728440 Jack Burton
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Gordon, When America began to send all it's kids to college and run all high schools as prep-schools for college, we created a class of kids, who from age 5, are taught that they are entitled to be information workers, to be immune from labor. Parents instill this in their kids, naturally, but schools do too. An average American kid has been told a million times, before they hit the job market, that they are smart, intelligent, gifted, one of a kind, that they are educated and thus will always have the knowledge economy jobs, or work in entertainment. How many kids are sure that they will be band members, singers, sports stars, movie stars, etc. etc. If that fails them, then they can fall back on ALL being computer geniuses because they can use an I-Pad. Imagine the employeers seeking out these highly educated kids who can work an i-phone, and i-pad or read using kindle.

Kids with the wrong attitudes and the wrong educations and strong beliefs in their unique talents. These kids make piss poor workers. How many even consider a technical education? All my college friends looked down on me because I had my military training and a solid technical education afterwards. THEY were smart, educated, gifted and elite.

 

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 14:46 | 3728471 RockyRacoon
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From  Carcopino's "Daily Life In Ancient Rome":

Outside the city [Rome], the middle classes still found it worth while to believe
in the value of work, but inside Rome they had lost all con-
fidence in it.

Let us reread the charming epigram where the "parasite" poet
has graven what I should like to call the "Plantin sonnet" of
Latin literature, which assuredly served Plantin as a model :

The things that make life happier, most genial Martial, are these:
means not acquired by labour but bequeathed; fields not unkindly, an
ever-blazing hearth; no lawsuit, the toga seldom worn, a quiet mind;
a free man's strength, a healthy body; frankness with tact, congenial
friends, good-natured guests, a board plainly spread; nights not spent
in wine but freed from cares, a wife not prudish yet pure; sleep such
as makes the darkness brief: be content with what you are and wish no
change; nor dread your last day nor long for it.

This poem voices no cry of happiness; it utters a sigh in which
resignation blends with content. It formulates no aspiration to-
ward the unattainable. It places happiness in the negation of
work, whose vanity it implies. The clouds of reality cast their
shadow over this dreary ideal which breathes the fatigue of an
aging world. Society, at least in Rome, was beginning to become
fossilised. The hierarchy, still fluid in the centre, was growing
petrified toward the summit. The regular inflow which should
have continuously renewed it gave way too often before acci-
dental pressure and unexpected shocks. Slowed down and diverted
from their course, the equalitarian currents tended to exaggerate
essential inequalities. The democratic order tottered with the
wavering of the middle classes, who had been its firm founda-
tion; it was crushed under the double weight of the masses,
from whom a crazed economic system had stolen all hope of
normal betterment, and of a corrupt bureaucracy which aggra-
vated the absolutism of the monarch whose fabulous wealth it
commanded and translated into acts of arbitrary omnipotence.
Thus the brilliance of the Urbs of the second century was al-
ready shrouded in the shadows which under the later empire
spread from Rome over the rest of the known world, and Rome
lacked the courage to shake herself free of the sinister gloom
that thickened round her. To struggle with success against the
'evils of their day, societies have need to believe in their own
future. But Roman socety, cheated of its hopes of gradual and
'equitable progress, obsessed alternately by its own stagnation
and by its instability, began to doubt itself just at the time when
the conscious unity f its established families was cracked and
breaking.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 05:30 | 3730144 Dr. Sandi
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I blame Bush for that.

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 15:29 | 3728614 Landrew
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You mean the ONE person you know! You are worthless and clueless if you are one of the 1%.I would excuse you if you are a child and hasn't lived a life among working people. I know many people with meaningful degrees looking for almost a living wage. 

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 15:41 | 3728641 sgt_doom
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I keep hearing this same tired, tedious bullcrap ALL my life, and I'm a combat vet dating back to Vietnam, etc., and while these US Chamber of Commerce (USCoC) and Business Roundtable talking points sound nifty, they never pass the stink test!

Plenty of Americans are doing day labor today, while Mexicans walk off the job as being too cold, or too dusty (and that's not meant as a criticism of our Hispanic brothers, simply putting things in real perspective).

It was Reagan who issued Executive Order #12615, to establish that Office of Privatization within the OMB to privatize as much of the US gov't as possible, when what was need was more innovative small businesses and individual entrepreneurs, etc.

It was the so-called faux crats, led by Robert Rubin, who established the Hamilton Project within the Brookings Institution, to privatize everything!

The Bankster Party (made up of the R-con branch and faux crat branch) have screwed us all!

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 17:28 | 3728930 Umh
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Somehow the sarcasm went right over my head.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 04:08 | 3730094 JamesBond
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it's obvious his meds have worn off

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 20:56 | 3729365 Vampyroteuthis ...
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Gordan, let me guess, you want them to work for 60 hours a week as you degrade them constantly? Increase the pay to what the job is worth. If you are that fucking cheap, you are no different that the slave drivers in China and I hope you go bankrupt fucker.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 04:10 | 3730096 JamesBond
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/sarc off

 

 

there.  did it for you.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 06:04 | 3730166 Henry Chinaski
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There is always demand for relialble able-bodied men of reasonable intellegence.  My teenage sons just picked up summer jobs working construction as laborers.  This is their first real employment experience outside the family.  They will learn more in a few weeks than in an entire year of college.  Working construction in Florida in the summer makes a man out of you.  One just spent a day running wire through conduit in the crawlspace.  Friday they were taking off a roof covering in the July sun.  They have friends who work as servers, grocery baggers, etc, and many more friends who have no job at all.  It's tough when inexeperienced youth have to compete with underemployed family people and seniors for jobs, but there is no expereience like work experience when you are young. It is sad to see a generation of unemployed becoming unemployable.

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 14:19 | 3728409 CheapBastard
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The suburbs of DC (ya know, Virginia, Maryland, etc) might feel a little pinch from this, yes?

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 12:53 | 3728220 Curt W
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The BLS has redefined the word "JOB" to include having a garage sale, selling something on Craigslist, or "I am currently working at finding a job"

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 13:17 | 3728250 imapopulistnow
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These are fundamental changes in society that are threatening our free market economy and traditional values.   As such, there needs to be a reasonable dialog about this at the national level.  Wages are getting to the point where the incentive to work does not exist for many. 

Not saying i know what the solution is, perhaps some reasonable adjustments  to minimum wage levels, perhaps exemption of first $5,000 - $10,000 in income from FICA, perhaps some adjustments to free trade provisions or corporate/business tax rates to encourage more job creation in the USA, perhaps all of the above.

But what we do not need, IMO, are the strident policy positions of the extreme left and right that do greater harm than good to those in the working class

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 14:23 | 3728367 Divine Wind
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Solutions with IMMEDIATE impact:

 

1. Dissolve the IRS and move to a CONSUMPTION-based tax system.

2. Dramatically reduce business taxes.

3. Drop ObamaCare completely and instead allow open and free interstate price competition by insurance providers.

4. Immediately implement a cutoff for Social Security. "For 40 and below, you better start saving for retirement."

5. Immediately call for personal interviews with all disability recipients requiring NEW medical validations of condition.

6. Regular drug tests for ALL social assistance and unemployment recipients.

7. Limit unemployment insurance to 4 months. Tough shit if you can not find your ideal job.

8. Levy heavy tariffs on U.S. companies manufacturing offshore then selling those products in the domestic market.

9. Allow illiquid banks to fail.

10. Allow broke-ass businesses to fail.

11. Allow broke municipalities to fail.

12. Cut back on the wars.

13. Eliminate the Department of Education and leave it up to the individual States.

 

 

 

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 14:41 | 3728472 Jack Burton
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Number 8 would explode into a world wide global trade war. The globalized economy is now too big to fail, or change. Thus number 8 would never be allowed to happen.

Numbers 9-13 are all good. They would simply restore a free market approach to business. and stop the use of the American military as enforcers for US corporate interests. The problem with the 2008 collapse was that failed business models were rewarded instead of allowed to fail, thus performing the most imporatant task of a free market "Weed out the failures".

Number 6 is too close to a police state for my tastes.

Number 1 is the most important issue in America. the US tax system must be eliminated and a new system set up. The entire tax code must be burnt and a simple "everyone pays" tax code replacing it. I believe a proper income tax code could meet all income needs. No need for complicated and expensive taxes like consumption. Simply tax incomes, all incomes. Make it so that work pays, and no write off or tax havens. All pay, that would solve much of the proble right there.

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 14:44 | 3728484 Divine Wind
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Great insights, Jack.

 

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 16:38 | 3728800 Vendetta
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I'm all for a world wide global trade war .... we've been losing that war for 40 years now. 

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 15:03 | 3728499 OneTinSoldier66
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I know there's not many around like me, but...

 

1. Dissolve the notion in your head that a Government and Politicians are "needed".

 

The free market provides us with all the things that make our lives better. When the Government is not there then the free market is "allowed" to take care of the issues you list above. It's the only thing that can "allow" the things you are wishing for. The free market is the equalizer in society. It is what keeps some people(a small cabal?) from being "more equal" in natural rights than others(you), just because they're "richer than you". The issues will not be addressed until you get rid of the "need for Government" notion which is what caused all the issues you list in the first place. There is no "need for Government". "No Government" does not mean there would be "no rules". There will always be hierarchies and rules, which is where governance comes from. The difference is where those rules come from. Government is the iron fist of central planning no matter what kind of velvet glove you try and wrap it in, and I do not believe that you get representation at a voting booth, just more central planning. It's things like "The Constitution" that give birth to things like, Socialist InSecurity, Military Industrial Complex, out of control money printing Federal Reserve, Drug Wars, etc, etc. I mean, enough is enough already!

 

A Republic, if you can keep it. -Ben Franklin

 

What? What do you mean "if"? The guy recognized there was a problem right then and there!

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 14:55 | 3728517 logicalman
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1. Agreed - income tax is just flatout theft and a consumption tax is paid by those who choose to consume.

2. Partially - reduce 'em by all means, but only after closing all loopholes

3. Go with a more European health care system - The US pays the most for the worst system, which leaves lots of room for improvement.

4. A cut-off won't help when the majority are already living paycheue to paycheque, but back to #1 with income tax gone, disposable income could be used for this.

5. A bit draconian and open to massive abuse.

6. Regular drug tests for all Congresscritters, Bankers and members of the House and don't forget the Pres and Vice Pres.

7. I'd make it 6 months, but that's splitting hairs.

8, 9, 10, 11, 12 Agreed

13. 8, 9, 10, 11 and 12 would mean that education could be properly funded and truly be education and not indoctrination.

All that's really needed is an end to fractional reserve banking and interest plus REAL money.

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 15:30 | 3728616 rejected
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#4. Immediately implement a cutoff for Social Security. "For 40 and below, you better start saving for retirement."

??

At ZIRP rates a person at $18.50 would have to have another job at the same wage to "save" enough for 20-25 years of retirement.

The St Louis Federal Reserve Inflation Calculater come up with a 1979 wage of $5.77. That's like about 100% devaluation every 10 years.

Go into stocks?   ROFLMAO

Now where's a skilled ipod user going to get two of these fine paying jobs.... Oh! excuse please. Three of these jobs. One to pay OCare.

 

 

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 18:08 | 3729021 Binko
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If you are going to drop Obamacare completely, why not drop Medicare and all other forms of Government sponsered medical care? And remove the tax deduction for employer provided care. If you are going to dump a large percentage of the public into the cold water of the private insurance market, why not dump everybody? 

Maybe if we go back to the days of people provide for their own medical care, or their family provides, or private charity provides or they die, maybe then something will change when it comes to the insanely bloated cost of medical care. 

Our current system where per capita medical costs of $6000 to $8000 are gradually shifted to the goverment is certainly not sustainable even in the short term. Given current trends, in a few years by which Government would be covering the costs of virtually everybody in one way or the other the total price tag will approach 3 trillion a year. 

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 22:27 | 3729622 Almost Solvent
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Agreed, but that comes right after the last foreign military base is shut down and the last soldier and ship abroad return home, cutting the war budget at least 75%

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 14:22 | 3728414 kchrisc
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"Not saying i know what the solution is, perhaps some reasonable adjustments  to minimum wage levels, perhaps exemption of first $5,000..."

How about an exemption from the thieves and murderers of government all together.

Let's be clear: Those of government are the problem and criminal as well.

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 15:29 | 3728606 philipdybel
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The BLS for once actually makes sense:  1) You can list "Home Retail Sales Associate" on your resume;  2) They say, "Looking for a job is in itself a full time job".

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 12:57 | 3728227 Divine Wind
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As long as the "Free Shit Army" is comfortable, this will not change.

The same trash will be constantly reelected to office.

 

"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic."

-Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 13:10 | 3728241 FreedomGuy
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You know, you read the thoughts and predictions of the founders and it is nothing short of true genius and prophetic accuracy. The older I get and more I read I realize that America's founding was a once in a millenium event. It absolutely could not happen today with the twits we have in office.

Sun, 07/07/2013 - 13:15 | 3728247 10mm
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There in office because of the twits who keep putting them in and allowing the downfall to occur. Divided we stand,divided we fall.

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