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The "Pro" And "Anti" Egypt Coup Crowds Now Gathering, In Two Dramatic Pictures
If there was a day when the post-military coup situation in Egypt could come to an explosive culmination, today is the first such opportunity. The pro-Morsi, Muslim Brotherhood-led supporters, having regained their bearings after last week's tumultuous events in which they were forcibly removed from power, have regrouped and are organizing protest marches across various Egyptian cities. The problem is that so are the victorious anti-Morsi groups, which match the supportive rallies in size, and also have the support of the military.
Marches in Cairo, planned to kick off at 5pm on Sunday, will set out from Fatah Mosque in Cairo's Ramses district; the nearby Sayeda Zeinab Mosque; Mohandeseen district's Mostafa Mahmoud Square and Dawaran Shubra Square in the working-class Shubra Al-Kheima district towards Tahrir Square in downtown Cairo and the Ittihadiya presidential palace in Heliopolis - focal points of mass rallies that led to the overthrow of the Islamist president.
Anti-Morsi groups warn of a US-Brotherhood plot to "occupy" their protest venues - namely Tahrir Square - the cradle of the 2011 revolution.
In Egypt's second city of Alexandria, two marches are planned to converge at the Sidi Gaber Square - a site of many recent clashes.
Marches are scheduled towards flashpoint squares in the pivotal city of Suez, which will meet in Al-Arbaeen Square, and the Nile Delta city of Mahala at Al-Shoun Square.
Provincial towns in Upper Egypt and the Nile Delta will see mass rallies converge outside governors' offices. Rival demonstrations by the former president's Islamist backers – a strong force in Upper Egypt - are planned in the same cities, heightening fears of more violent showdowns.
Since president Morsi's ouster on Wednesday, street battles between rival factions have killed at least 37 people and injured more than 1,400.
The Muslim Brotherhood-led National Alliance in Support of Legitimacy has called for mass nationwide rallies on Sunday to defend Morsi's "constitutional legitimacy." Thousands of Morsi supporters have already been camping out at Rabaa Al-Adawiya Mosque in Cairo for over a week with plans to continue.
More pro-Morsi demonstrations are planned in other focal points in Cairo, inducing the Presidential Guard Building and Nahda Square near Cairo University - a scene of fierce clashes between rival camps last week.
Yet little does the combustible situation justice quite as effectively as the following two images from Al Jazeera, showing both the anti-Morsi demonstrations in Tahrir Square...
... and the pro-Morsi protest gathering in Nasr City.
As well as this panorama shot courtesy of JamalsNews:
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Something tells me they're not all there to trade baseball cards.
How long till they start showing up in the same place?
I logged in just so i could write firrst. get a fucking life u buttholes! (ps fuck ur ironies)
Irony.
Where are the libertarians, or are they still fighting over who will be the best dictator?
Lets get ready to Ruuuuuuuuuuuuummmmmbleeeee !!!
Inshala, the streets will run w muslim blood
They will be playing knifey spoony.
And while Egypt burns, Israel uses the distraction to hit Syria AGAIN...this time by sea. If it's true that S-300 components are now smoldering, Putin will have steam coming out of his ears.
http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2013/07/07/israel-destroyed-syrian-wea...
Get ready to Rummmmmmmmbbbbbbbbbbaaaaaaaallllllllllllllll
John Courage Kerry is on the way in his mega princess battle yacht to deliver a big old can of democracy.
Operation "Leave all mid-east countries in ruin" (aka Arab Spring) is going well.
Time for a photo op
There is a reason that he still is known locally as "Live-Shot". The most dangerous place in the Commonwealth used to be between a microphone and a camera when Kerry was around.
And I do believe that this is the first time I have ever heard "Courage" associated with JFK, even as <sarc>. Goin' back to earlier '70s, medal tossing, "Gengis Khan", etc.
- Ned
I supersized the sarc for that one - it's the American way!
Oh, just wait until Markey has been around for a while. He's the one Jackass who will make Kerry look good.
(Well, maybe not good. Just less worse-than-Markey)
And the winner is........
ISRAEL!
+1 I think I recognise that avatar from 'Bees like yellow'.
Does he still have his yacht docked in RI so he doesn't have to pay MA taxes?
Yes, and MA won't prosecute because they are all a little dinghy.
I hope Putin smokes those Zionist bastards. Fucking chosen people my ass.
I wish I could give you a +100. Lets get this party started.
well richard silverstein's server is in the USA. Also they have taken great efforts to cover their tracks. I wonder if Richard AKA DICK is any relationship to Larry Silverstein?
Call me racist or antisemite but I don't really trust any Zionist Jews after 911.
http://cqcounter.com/whois/
While they are busy fighting amongst themselves, they do not have time to fuck with us.
I prefer it that way.
The Egyptian military is financed by the U.S. ($1.3 billion/year). A few weeks before the military coup started Hagel and Dempsey met with Egyptian generals. This coup is being financed and was orchestrated by Uncle Sam. There should be no doubt about that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFzN3qlZbBg
http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2013/july/05/amer...
Uncle Zino has to pay, ... considering the consequences to Uncle Zino if he doesn't.
After all, it's only paper.
I'm guessing organizing their militias for the inevitable fallout.
Did you miss the part in the article about deaths due to fighting by rival factions?
Precisely, for as was said following the last coup, "[W]hat is going on in Egypt ... involves regime change, not regime collapse":
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/guest-post-transition-free-society
Which is to say that not until the world's monstrous nation-states succumb to the "devolution revolution" that can and must start here will there every be any meaningful change in the world:
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/guest-post-governance-free-society
Meanwhile, the state can kiss my ass.
You can't be up voted if your post starts with italic text.
nor down voted. Ol' muppet could have saved itself
italicized block quotes?
That's odd, as all I did was paste the sentence in and click on the quote tab in the menu bar. But appreciate your trying.
Can't up arrow you for some reason, so I'll reply instead, your absolutely correct, these people are all doomed to cycles of murder and violence until they wake up to see government IS their PROBLEM, not the answer to anything!
The same goes for America and the West too, and this is why Obama and his big government nanny crew are stunned and frozen on what to do in Egypt, they think government solves everything, but they have no answers when government finally manifests into what it always does, unbridled tyranny!
and on another note, let me guess which City will NOT be having big protest that become violent and the military will be there in mass.............SUEZ!
No, 0zer0 and the like minded sociopaths that form the perverse cabal of NWO efforts KNOW exactly what to expect from the masses if their plans go too far too fast. Why do you think the NSA is spying on everyone? Why is the IRS given control over everyone? Why is Homeland Security stockpiling BILLIONS of rounds of ammunition? Why did 0zer0 fret about voters "clinging to guns and religion"? No way 0zer0 and the like are stunned by this response. They have been expecting it and planning for it from day 1. Their only hope is that they have enough of the control infrastructure in place to quickly quell the uprisings. That means security control, as well as information control. The only things these sociopaths fear is a French Revolution type of response. It's all about control and making the world slaves. You will know the NWO is upon us when they get serious about taking over the internet "to protect us". That is the signal of the end and it isn't far off after the way TPTB have gone after the mainstream media "leakers".
I meant they don't know how to handle the situation in Egypt!!! I'm sure TPTB have a very good idea of what they will do in America, "if trouble starts"!
Look to the "Boston Bombings" for clarification!
They actually would prefer for things to turn violent here in North America. Its gives them the opportunity to use force themselves. Use of force is their expertise.
Thats why we normal people have to win the information war. (which we are, btw)
French Revolution type of response........
Got my needles and have been hording wool for ages....
There is surely no greater lack of imagination than in the field of human governance, as it is taken for granted that there can be no rule of law that isn't instituted and operated by a government, i.e., by a territorial monopoly on the use of force.
No matter how many times it's repeated, once this monopoly comes to be — always and everywhere by the use of a priori force — then no matter how simple and sensible its rule of law might be, it will be used by the government and those who control it — i.e., by the state — to deprive the people of their lives, liberties, property, and produce.
And yet, on it goes, one regime change after another but always a regime.
How often must Einstein be quoted in this regard?
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/a/alberteins133991.html
Oil, meet water...
DaddyO
Dysentry.
Not particularly, but all those ppl do have to find toilets.
I wonder of there are any enterprsing Egyptians with porta potty trucks down there?
$2 bucks to take a dump and wash your hands, perhaps a spritz of "smell good" for a couple coins?
wash the feet...
they eat with their hands..
I know, I know, God will punish me for that shit
lololololol.........
Starving people don't poop.
How hungry are they?
Once upon a time in the land of the Arabian Nights, I saw a guy with the full on robes paused in deep thought.
A minute or two later, he walked away, and left a tootsie roll!
How about that?
The Sub-continent?
knuckles, that would be hand, singular. Although, you can spice your food however you wish ;-O
they only eat with the right hand.
they use the left hand to wipe their ass.
they only eat with the right hand.
they use the left hand to wipe their ass.
Guess that means the right side is always half ass clean?.
Why no toilet paper?
Islamic tradition has it the joos invented TP, so it is not permitted.
Now that's funny...
Ahh toilet paper - with it's magical poop removing powers.
If you had shit anywhere else on your body would just wiping it off with toilet paper be adequate for you to feel clean?
(Please say no)
Flushable baby wipes. The coner stone of any modern bathroom :-)
The idiocy and inefficiency of toilet paper has always astounded me. Not until I traveled to SE Asia and witnessed the ubiquitous 'bum gun' attached to every "throne" western style toilet and even the lonely squat toilet did I realize that most of the rest of the world, washes their arses with WATER which is about 1000x more efficient and cleansing than TP. TP is for DRYING your ass after it is clean. Yes, I know about bidets just stressing the fact that even poor Thais can afford a hose with a nozzle, and a T connector.
And of course, the usual corporate players (look up who owns your TP brand) are behind "something you need" "because thats the way it is" and so you rebuy TP every few days instead of using the free water available to you. Go figure.
Guess that means the right side is always half ass clean?.
You made me laugh sir.....thank you for that whimsey , sorry I could only give you one up....
I bet Abu Hamza is relieved!
Well, later on, they do wash the left hand sort of.
You can log off now.
@muppet......eloquent and thought provoking. +100
Irony
Fuck off!!!!
Muppet...I gave u an up vote just for the fact that u didn't give
yourself one.
Muppet failed, coming in second out of two.
Maybe some of the millions of anti-Morsi moderates would like to come to the US and point out all the fucked up radical MBs 'advisors' entering and leaving our White House and infiltrating our security institutions. I'm sure it would explain a lot.
Sharpening their feathers and pillow cases for an overly dramatic tickle fight.
37 deaths sinces Wed? Sounds like a typical weekend in Chicago...
Shit they bury their dead, before we even pick the bodies up in this Country! 37 dead my ass, try 3700 probably, and who knows really, this is why the middle east is so frustrating to western journalist, who love the "body count"! In the middle east, death is like a way of life, its tragic and the loved ones mourn, dont get me wrong, but in societies where "the individual" doesn't even exist as a concept, death doesn't have the political and psychological impact in the media and to the masses, as it does in the West! Its why I laugh at the numbers coming out of Syria too! It could be two or three times higher then the official counts there too!
It's funny how these things start up again and then spread rapidly across the region....
The Arab Summer of Discontent Returns to BahrainThey are trading leadership default swaps.
Fortunately for them, they are all devout adherents of the "religion of peace".
/this ends well...
Civil war should add a few points to the e-minis
Sadly, you're probably right. Despicable people going to ramp things up.
There will be a war...it will not be civil.
The third group of people in the Egyptian situation is a lot larger than both of those groups. They are the ones fed up with both offered political options.
And outnumber all those fools 40 to 1.
I believe you might be confounding "fed-up" with apathetic...
Apathetic is a position as is pro or contra.
Tyler: The embedded figure captions contradict the identification given each picture in the article.
Objects in the mirror are closer than they appear...
Honestly I'll take the t-rex over a square of pissed off Egyptians.
Yeah, at least the T rex won't rape you.
Maybe he'd just eat your bread helmet...
Coup. Rinse. Repeat.
Tha backdrop of this activity is spiralling overpopulation coupled with resource exhaustion and economic decay. Watch carefully, like Katrina in 2005 it will be but a prelude.
"Hongcha" You make a good point about what underlies the political turmoil in Egypt. Their economy is crashing. Back when the unrest first hit the streets, it was in response to rising food prices, and a general inflation in necessities of life.
Egypt has long suffered from overpopulation and resource decay, just as you pointed out. Too many people overlook the underlying causes of Egypt's strutural instability.
No matter which side wins government power, the same economic decay is in place. The same rising population will produce youth hungry for jobs. AND, the same media will show the US and European lifestyle on TV every day. The millions who find it hard to afford bread are treated to the Western Media's fascination with wealth, movie stars and excess of eating and drinking.
Egypt is facing the resource shortages of the 21st century. Even the military as rulers have no idea how to drag an overpopulated resouce poor nation out of economic collapse.
Your post is a +100, for pointing to the structural instability and politics can not cure. Other nations are facing the same. Pakistan for one.
Read Isaiah 19.
It is all right there.
Wind, How old is this forecast? Could Isiah really see the future 2500 years later? I think this forecast has already been fulfilled, no? Isaiah 19.......
A prophecy against Egypt:
See, the Lord rides on a swift cloud and is coming to Egypt. The idols of Egypt tremble before him, and the hearts of the Egyptians melt with fear. 2 “I will stir up Egyptian against Egyptian—brother will fight against brother, neighbor against neighbor, city against city, kingdom against kingdom. 3 The Egyptians will lose heart, and I will bring their plans to nothing; they will consult the idols and the spirits of the dead, the mediums and the spiritists.
4 I will hand the Egyptians over to the power of a cruel master, and a fierce king will rule over them,” declares the Lord, the Lord Almighty. 5 The waters of the river will dry up, and the riverbed will be parched and dry. 6 The canals will stink; the streams of Egypt will dwindle and dry up. The reeds and rushes will wither, 7 also the plants along the Nile, at the mouth of the river. Every sown field along the Nile will become parched, will blow away and be no more.
8 The fishermen will groan and lament, all who cast hooks into the Nile; those who throw nets on the water will pine away. 9 Those who work with combed flax will despair, the weavers of fine linen will lose hope. 10 The workers in cloth will be dejected, and all the wage earners will be sick at heart. 11 The officials of Zoan are nothing but fools; the wise counselors of Pharaoh give senseless advice. How can you say to Pharaoh, “I am one of the wise men, a disciple of the ancient kings”?
12 Where are your wise men now? Let them show you and make known what the Lord Almighty has planned against Egypt. 13 The officials of Zoan have become fools, the leaders of Memphis are deceived; the cornerstones of her peoples have led Egypt astray. 14 The Lord has poured into them a spirit of dizziness; they make Egypt stagger in all that she does, as a drunkard staggers around in his vomit. 15 There is nothing Egypt can do—head or tail, palm branch or reed.
16 In that day the Egyptians will become weaklings. They will shudder with fear at the uplifted hand that the Lord Almighty raises against them. 17 And the land of Judah will bring terror to the Egyptians; everyone to whom Judah is mentioned will be terrified, because of what the Lord Almighty is planning against them.
18 In that day five cities in Egypt will speak the language of Canaan and swear allegiance to the Lord Almighty. One of them will be called the City of the Sun.[a]
19 In that day there will be an altar to the Lord in the heart of Egypt, and a monument to the Lord at its border. 20 It will be a sign and witness to the Lord Almighty in the land of Egypt. When they cry out to the Lord because of their oppressors, he will send them a savior and defender, and he will rescue them. 21 So the Lord will make himself known to the Egyptians, and in that day they will acknowledge the Lord. They will worship with sacrifices and grain offerings; they will make vows to the Lord and keep them. 22 The Lord will strike Egypt with a plague; he will strike them and heal them. They will turn to the Lord, and he will respond to their pleas and heal them.
23 In that day there will be a highway from Egypt to Assyria. The Assyrians will go to Egypt and the Egyptians to Assyria. The Egyptians and Assyrians will worship together. 24 In that day Israel will be the third, along with Egypt and Assyria, a blessing[b] on the earth. 25 The Lord Almighty will bless them, saying, “Blessed be Egypt my people, Assyria my handiwork, and Israel my inheritance.”
No wonder they're upset. That's a shitty forecast. Makes stuff like global warming moot.
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yeah, that is old.
E.T. does not show up in his smoke-spewing space ship any more.
Nothing new under the Sun.
May I recommend for any of you folks who feel you really understand the world, the following two videos. The first link is actually 3 videos but I don't expect anyone to have the patience to actually watch all 3. The first video in the first link is a video about the Giza Pyramid. The 2nd link is about a pyramid I doubt anyone has heard about, in Bosnia. The inferences will blow your mind, imo. Until you absorb the concepts from the first video, the 2nd won't have much meaning for you.
http://www.zengardner.com/zero-point-the-spiral-of-civilization/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbfRopzXYNA&feature=youtu.be
The military - the people who specialize in death? Surely they could think of something...
They can use "Military aid" to buy food
Buy MREs with miliatry aid.
That fixes hunger.
I think I saw a protestor with a "MREs Not Tanks" sign.
At night, they cross over to jooland and siphon gas outta joo cars, gas problem fixed.
Yes i agree with you to a degree, the resources are definately not getting to an overpopulated system in Egypt, but if they didn't have 75 layers of corruption and government dictatorship sitting in between the resources and the population, shit would be better!! Its amazing how fast REAL free market capitalism can fix imbalances in a society, if its left alone to work!! But like everywhere in the world today, that would leave the 1% power mongors, dictators, obligarchs, and crony capitalist out of the mix, and no one will let that happen! So we starve, riot, live on welfare and debt crumbs, and pay more taxes, until this bloated bitch finally implodes!
I don't agree. This is simply a power struggle. If it were truely resource caused then what explains India? They have 1.4 billion people with 18 million more a year and growing.For a population to expand like that things have to be good. Egypt has 91 million and will have over 100 million by 2025 (2.73 births per woman). Sounds to me like they are living the good life or the population wouldn't be expanding like that.
This revolution is about power and money and has nothing to do with resources.......
Just sayin.....
just throwing this out there, perhaps the arable land vs desert ratio is a little better in india? Just saying.
Exactly. Look at Egypt w/ Google Earth. You see a thin green ribbon [the Nile] surrounded by thousands of acres of sand.
The difference is, India doesn't have to import half it's food.
In part, but it's mostly having had a repressive US-backed dictatorial government, only to have a popular uprising and a new leader who always was, or was made into a puppet, or perceived puppet, of the US/NATO.
The average Egyptian didn't want to have a revolution just to have a new puppet calling for jihad against Syria..you're right that in part they have problems at home including food and the price thereof, but the point is Morsi was not focusing on these internal issues because he was, seemingly, doing the bidding of Washington.
The army will no doubt wait a while and help prop up another, weaker leader which Washington and Tel Aviv will go along with.
Another Obama fuck up.
And another multi billion dollar waste of our fucking money.
Not really, you can blame Eisenhower for Egypt and MENA in general. He was a colossal bonehead with foreign policy and strategic placement. But really if you truely want to point a finger, England would be the root cause of it all.
Well, that's good to know - I thought the Egyptians had something to do with it.
At this rate just blame Alexander, go hands off, and enjoy the hidef
Nope. He was told by the big oil and banks to let this happen so oil prices would keep going up in spite of the imploding economy and to sucker all the muppet money into developing the now rapidly delpeting domwstic oil fantasy.
Hey, let's all buy XOM!
Don't worry. They're only Fereral Reserve Notes, it's not like they're really worth anything.
Yes! Another huge failure, more are sure to follow. There is no overriding moral compass or strategic vision based on any underlying principles that I can see. Alinsky was good at describing how radicals could achieve power by any deceitful means, but said nothing about how to govern once power is achieved. The Obamao gang is lost.
BHO governs with alliances and gimmicks with the worst of the worst such as MB, Hamas, Al-Qaeda, mexican drug cartels, and the central bankers. Exactly what one would expect from the same guy who kicked the Dali Lama (a real Nobel Peace prize laureate) out the side door of the WH past the trash bins.
Let the revolution continue.
Revolution media now.
John Kerry is sucking on Buffet's dick
Hillary is sucking on Bills dick.
Nothing new to see, move along
Kerry is not his real name. His real name is Kohn. Look it up. I humbly suggest that people simple start referring to the man by his real name. Not sure why he has worked so hard at concealing it. Is he ashamed of it?
Retarded.
Kerry's grandfather, a Moravian (look it up) Jew, changed his name from Kohn before emigrating to the US about 100 years ago.
Are you an agent of the name purity police?
Fuck you.
/John Kerry is a douchebag.
I am probably not retarded. I am not an agent of the "purity police," and if I was, I would arrest myself first.
As for "fuck you," what exactly did I say that offended you?
Kerry is not any sort of translation or transliteration from Kohn, jackass. It was changed to appear Irish in Boston. Horseface always knew it and lied about it, which just politics, but fuck you for playing pc police because it involved the tribe.
John Kohn is a cunt, and a dishonest cunt, and no one should defend him ever.
Hillary ain't sucking on anyone's dick. Hillary has a bigger dick than all of them combined.
But what difference does it make!!!
+ a BIG ONE!
“Shikata ga nai”
It cannot be helped.
Everybody says size doesn't matter?! :-)
Errbody in da club suckin big dicks
Hillary prefers pie. Huma pie.
Yes, her pussy is Halal.
But Huma in secret service to the MB, has to eat Hitlery's pussy.
Zawahiri should give her a medal.
Hillary is a dyke and a liar, that's why she doesn't care if Bill is a serial woman abuser. She does it herself.
We give Egypt a half day's POMO each year.
If Obama wants to be a hero....
Give Tuesday's POMO to the Morsi crowd, and Thursday's POMO to the anti Morsi crowd. Both crowds will bumrush their local malls and chain restaurants to share beers with each other. Stocks will pull back 3% and give everyone in the rest of the world a wonderful chance to BTFD.
He walks away a hero.
Why is this so hard?
Just goes to show you how delusional we are, a bankrupt nation giving away billions. It boggles the mind...
How can you be bankupt when you are the one running the printer for the world's reserve currency?
Ben's song, with apologies to the Red Hot Chili Peppers:
What I've got you've got to print it for your mammaWhat I've got you've got to print it for your pappa
What I've got you've got to print it for your daughter
You do a little dance and then you drink a little water
What I've got you've got to get it put it in you
What I've got you've got to get it put it in you
What I've got you've got to get it put it in you
Reeling with the feeling don't stop continue
Realize I don't want to be a miser
Confide w/sly you'll be the wiser
Young blood is the lovin' upriser
How come everybody wanna keep it like the kaiser?
[Chorus]
Give it away give it away give it away give it away now
Give it away give it away give it away give it away now
Give it away give it away give it away give it away now
I can't tell if I'm a kingpin or a pauper
Greedy little people in a sea of distress
Keep your more to receive your less
Unimpressed by material excess
Love is free love me say hell yes
I'm a low brow but I rock a little know how
No time for the piggies or the hoosegow
Get smart get down with the pow wow
Never been a better time than right now
Alan Greenspan poet and a Doctorate
Alan Greenspan taught me how to off it
Alan Greenspan printing' like he talk it
Goodness me can't you see I'm gonna cough it
[Chorus]
Lucky me swimmin' in my ability
Dancin' down on life with agility
Come and drink it up from my liquidity
Blessed with a bucket of lucky mobility
My mom I love her 'cause she love me
Long gone are the times when she scrub me
Feelin' good my brother gonna hug me
Drink my juice young love chug-a-lug me
There's a river born to be a giver
Keep you warm won't let you shiver
His heart is never gonna wither
Come on everybody time to deliver
[Chorus]
[repeat first verse]
MsCreant - How can you/they be bankrupt? When FRNs are no longer wanted. Aka not the reserve currency any longer due to a long list of crimes, misdeeds and abuse.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-04/toronto-reviews-bid-to-become-y...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/currency/9978615/Australia-to-trade-c...
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-06/switzerland-will-join-race-to-b...
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/20/us-china-economy-yuan-idUSTRE7...
http://www.risk.net/asia-risk/feature/2263674/singapore-set-to-be-rmb-ga...
http://www.asianewsnet.net/Frankfurt-joining-race-to-become-key-yuan-cen...
and finally, even our old dance partner is bailing out.
http://www.hellenicshippingnews.com/News.aspx?ElementId=3cea3d7f-588d-45...
How they're gonna defuse this bomb, I just don't know. Looks like the eulogy's being read now.
Im keeping with Kyle Bass "They want to kill the dollar". And a fantastic job indeed.
Giving away something that represents debt seems very logical. Let me know when they start giving Gold and Silver away.
LOL "a bankrupt nation giving away billions. It boggles the mind..." and the crazy part is the guys getting the billions still think this is a great deal. You have to wonder just how much longer this setup can last.
Arm all of them and have at it. Last man standing.
fishocker
Peace is possible. It is possible to have a complete change of paradigm without bloodshed. It's the agent provocateurs that cause violence.
Violence is NOT a necessary or normal part of life. It is done TO people by TPTB.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/naïveté
Rates of violent homicide in "primitive" apolitical societies make ours look downright trivial.
Why do you believe that I am extrapolating backward, to primitive society? I am extrapolating forward, to a more advanced, civilzed one. I simply believe it is not natural to experience change in social or political ways with violence. I believe that society can manage its own affairs nonviolently without "oversight" from TPTB.
The TPTB will come and knock some sense into you with extreme prejudice if you try to make changes social or political where the benefit does not accrue mostly to them.
if you try to make changes social or political where the benefit does not accrue mostly to them.
There are, hidden away, all kinds of quiet argicultural communes/ communities, many off the grid, all over America now.
Be the change.
TPTB will *always* manage the affairs of society.
Violence is a big part of The Plan.
Should the current powers fail, a new *power* will take over,
rinse, repeat.
They could split the country in half and divide all revenue evenly. Then they will build a wall around one, suppress information, limit communications, track everything...
Morrisey best song wasn't "How soon is now"...he had better ones...when did he get into politics?
Kinda like "Point/Counterpoint" with knives and AKs, huh?
They need a Nelson Mandela, a Mahatma Gandhi, a Barrack Obama ....
It takes a village.. idiot.
They already got a Barack Obama. Part of the reason that they are were they are.
There's got to be major violence now in Egypt that is caused by somebody, or else people in other countries may just get the idea that it is pretty easy to oust a leader.
In Egypt hallf the people want Sharia law and half want freedom, in America half the people want the gvt. to run everyone's lives and half want freedom. WTF with people? We need each country to divide into tow states, the individuals and the nanny-needers. And see which half survuves.
no half want the government to run everything, the other half want to enslave us to the corporations while saying that is freedom. I mean really, are you that naive?
About 5% in every society want true freedom. A further 5% would happily go along. The rest would not know what to do, could not cope, would break down mentally and emotionally.
I don't make the rules...
Corporations own government.
Hope that helps understand the world.
no one wants to enslave you to corporations, asshole. That sort of silly reductionism isn't going to fool anyone and makes you look like a cunt.
someone needs to lay off the chomsky