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Radioactive Tritium At Record High Levels In Fukushima Ground- And Sea-Water

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With the Western (and Japanese) media focused almost entirely on the actions of their central-planners-in-chief and how effective they are, it seems human's omnipotence over complex systems is being greatly challenged by the ongoing Fukushima disaster.  The Japan Times reports that TEPCO said Sunday that 600,000 becquerels per liter of tritium has been detected in groundwater at the crippled Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant - 18% higher than levels a week earlier. Furthermore, the utility also said it had measured a seawater tritium level of 2,300 becquerels per liter - the highest so far - near the water intakes of reactors 1 to 4. So it is that in a nation already suffering from a dreadfully declining demographic dilemma, the citizens are being exposed to highly cancerous substances still.

Via The Japan Times,

Tokyo Electric Power Co. said Sunday that 600,000 becquerels per liter of tritium has been detected in groundwater at the crippled Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant.

 

It’s the first time such a high level of tritium, an isotope of hydrogen, has been measured in the plant’s groundwater, Tepco said.

 

The water, sampled Friday, came from an observation well about 6 meters west of the plant’s port. The well is the closest to the sea of the five wells used for radiation monitoring.

 

On July 1, the tritium level in the same well was 510,000 becquerels per liter, Tepco said.

 

The utility also said it had measured, on Wednesday, a seawater tritium level of 2,300 becquerels per liter — the highest so far — near the water intakes of reactors 1 to 4.

 

Tritium concentrations in groundwater have become denser on the north side of the intakes, but Tepco also said it has yet to determine whether the tainted water has been leaking into the sea.

 

A Nuclear Regulation Authority official recently said contaminated groundwater from the plant, which is being fed cooling water from outside, may be seeping into the ocean and that the matter must be addressed carefully because data is limited.

 


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Mon, 07/08/2013 - 21:57 | Link to Comment sbenard
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Oh my gosh! It must be time to buy stocks!

No matter what the news, buy stocks!

News is now irrelevant! Buy stocks! Build the bubble!

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:00 | Link to Comment PiratePawpaw
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Buy with all three hands!!!

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:01 | Link to Comment Aguadulce
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Bearish luminox watches...

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:48 | Link to Comment LetThemEatRand
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I'm not going to panic until they bring out those two tiny Japanese girls that live in a box.  When you see them show up, start running.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:01 | Link to Comment BandGap
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Then Mothra will kick some ass.

Lamest monster eveh!

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 01:39 | Link to Comment 12ToothAssassin
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Tritium is bullish for night sights - shoot em in the dark and let god sort em out.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 03:27 | Link to Comment ClassicalLib17
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I upticked you 12tooth because I too have tritium sights on my pistols and I typically use appendix carry condition 3.  That Israeli guy is really fast.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 06:42 | Link to Comment Headbanger
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Got em too on my Sig but we won't need night sights soon cause everything will glow on its own with all this tritium spilling into the environment.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 08:18 | Link to Comment fockewulf190
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With all the DNA being scrambled right now, I'm expecting a real Godzilla to be popping out of the ocean and paying Tokyo a visit.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 11:17 | Link to Comment 12ToothAssassin
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Why would you even bother to carry if its condition 3?

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 07:05 | Link to Comment Croesus
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I guess you never saw this, then:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Lepus

 

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 08:04 | Link to Comment MSimon
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Radiation hormesis.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 09:08 | Link to Comment GeezerGeek
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Does a supersized moth really beat a giant fanged turtle with a couple of booster rockets flanking his butt? http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Gamera+Monsters&Form=IQFRDR#view=detail&id=254ACB150708498F686672BFE8629C94F85C5F1B&selectedIndex=0

 

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 00:23 | Link to Comment Abbie Normal
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Never could understand Mothra's tactics.  When he beats his wings and generates hurricane force winds, it doesn't seem to benefit Godzilla or the bad monsters.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:05 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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@ PiratePawpaw

Truly excellent comment!  LOL...

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:06 | Link to Comment ZerOhead
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The safe levels for tritium in drinking water has been established to be 20 bequerels per litre.

Perhaps the Japanese government could increase this to 2,000,000 in order to make the groundwater safe again...

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:25 | Link to Comment TheFourthStooge-ing
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Tritium concentrations in groundwater have become denser on the north side of the intakes, but Tepco also said it has yet to determine whether the tainted water has been leaking into the sea.

OK, let's make this really easy. Yes, of course, it fucking has been leaking into the sea.

Dumb fuckers...

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:36 | Link to Comment Tijuana Donkey Show
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"and that the matter must be addressed carefully because data is limited." WOW. I love the phrasing, I'm going to use that any time someone asks me a question where I know the answer is fucked. Think about using that -

"We don't know the level of spying, and that the matter must be addressed carefully because data is limited."

"The number of peopke killed by drone strikes needs to be addressed, and that the matter must be addressed carefully because data is limited."

"We don't know the exact level of money printing, and that the matter must be addressed carefully because data is limited."

Data bitches!

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:52 | Link to Comment TheFourthStooge-ing
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Data, Ltd., bitchez!

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 07:11 | Link to Comment malikai
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Some fun facts about tritium.

1. It is produced in large quantities in the ionosphere, but remains there for very long periods of time. Some comes down here and it is a trace element in air at sea level.

2. 12 Year half life.

3. Extremely mobile. Combined with oxygen, it forms tritiated water, which is chemically indistinguishable by the organism from normal or even heavy water.

4. Decay events emit beta radiation, which is very limited externally, but very damaging internally.

5. Due to #3, it does not concentrate in any particular tissues, but distributes evenly throughout the organism.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 09:42 | Link to Comment aerojet
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Well, that isn't awful--in 24 years things should be looking a bit better.  Hey, no gamma, another important detail. 

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 09:47 | Link to Comment Manthong
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at least the "data is limited" about the absorbtion in hominid organisms within a few hundred kms of fuku

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 08:30 | Link to Comment Papasmurf
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Small data.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:50 | Link to Comment White.Star.Line
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With US Approval, maybe we can up it to 5,000.000.

After all, who "designed" this thing, perhaps GE?

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 01:20 | Link to Comment Totentänzerlied
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Is a Ferrari a bad car because you drove it off a cliff?

Is a GE reactor plant a bad plant because you put it on the seacoast along an active fault line with an insufficient number of poorly placed pumps and backup generators, all run by a government controlled monopoly public utility company?

Putting a nuclear reactor in a major earthquake zone is no different than planting a bomb the detonator of which is triggered by a random-number generator. Pure incompetence or plain evil?

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 05:20 | Link to Comment Parrotile
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 Well, it might be useful to remember just who was the prime architectural consultancy for the reactor complex - surprise - a US GE subsidiary, Ebasco - who should have been fully aware of all potential problems, as Responsible Entity, and considered reasonable scenarios in their design specification http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_Bond_and_Share_Company

Add in GE providing many of the reactors http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_Daiichi_Nuclear_Power_Plant and maybe the finger of blame might not just be pointed at the Japanese. American "Expert Companies" were employed for their expertise - and so these "expert Companies" could "on the surface" share the blame for the failure.

HOWEVER, it seems that TEPCO did quite a lot to reduce the safety factor by lowering the site (ostensibly to reach firm bedrock, but a 25 metre reduction in height above sealevel is 25 metres less protection). Add in the Repair and Operation Report falsification scandal, and  then the 2008 IAEA report indicating thet TEPCO (and the Japanese Government) were using outdated and potentially unsafe "Safety Guidelines".

Add in other Expert research / guidelines that were simply ignored and the entire plant was "An Accident Waiting to Happen". Ignored published data include -

In 1990, the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) ranked the failure of the emergency electricity generators and subsequent failure of the cooling systems of plants in seismically very active regions one of the most likely risks. The Japanese Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency (NISA) cited this report in 2004. According to Jun Tateno, a former NISA scientist, TEPCO did not react to these warnings and did not respond with any measures.[34]

Filmmaker Adam Curtis mentioned the risks of the type of boiling water reactors cooling systems such as those in Fukushima I,[35] and claimed the risks were known since 1971[36] in a series of documentaries in the BBC in 1992 and advised that PWR type reactors should have been used.

Fukushima had been warned their seawall was insufficient to withstand a powerful tsunami, but the seawall was not heightened at Fukushima.

 

 

 

 

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 09:44 | Link to Comment aerojet
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That's the problem with a fascist economic system--the government can blame the private company, which turns right around and blames the government.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:07 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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@ ZerOhead

I thought the data point was for ocean water, which they don't drink.  Maybe eat the tuna...

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:34 | Link to Comment Al Huxley
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You'll HAVE to eat the Tuna after they institute my recommendation (see below), just to get your RDA.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 04:04 | Link to Comment Azannoth
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We have to eat the Tuna to know how much radiation is in them ~ (N.P.)

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:33 | Link to Comment Al Huxley
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Or better yet, rather than establishing a MAXIMUM they could establish a MINIMUM RDA and then the water would not only be safe, but GOOD for you and they wouldn't ever have to revisit the topic.  Minimum RDA of radioactive tritium 2000 bequerels.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 04:05 | Link to Comment Azannoth
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I heard tritium is good against tooth-decay

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:18 | Link to Comment zorba THE GREEK
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This is affecting the entire planet. Why isn't the entire planet involved in this?

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:29 | Link to Comment NoDebt
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UN, IMF and WTO to the rescue!

Is that REALLY what you want to hear?  Please think before answering.

There is really very little we as human beings can do about it at this point.  Control was lost and the genie got out of the bottle at Fukushima.  Not much current technology to put it back in right now.  Same with Chernobyl.

 

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 01:28 | Link to Comment Totentänzerlied
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That's simply not true, the issue is money. Encase the entire structure in high-density concrete, coated with lead, surrounded by a giant sealed dome, and erect a seawall. This should have been initiated the very day of the disaster. If you can't afford to fix it, and breaking it harms other people, you can't afford to own it.

The stupidity here is in how businessmen and politicians choose to push well-engineered technology far beyond its specs.

It's a farce of how to run a nuclear energy program, truly a farce. And virtually no different anywhere else.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 07:12 | Link to Comment onthesquare
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You are right.  And further to that by drilling numerous holes around the perimater on an inward angle so as to make a giant funnel then injecting a freezing system they can hold all water in, keep clean water out and cool the reactor at the same time.  This technique has been used to contain leaking landfill sites and hold the contents while it is cleaned up.  The construction and operational costs are high.  In this case there will be a high risk but the pay will be good.  I think those poor Indians who wreck old ships in their bare feet would be up to the job, with the proper training.

On the bright side I do not believe there are any higher isotops in hydrogen than tritium.  End of the road hydrogen

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:37 | Link to Comment Tijuana Donkey Show
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Uh, they are all working hard to cover it all up as fast as possible. Stay calm and continue to eat gulf coast and pacific seafood. 

 

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:56 | Link to Comment pigs-n-space
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No Shit................ everyone should be pissed beyond beleif. this is not just a f-n japanese problem but a global one. Some lame ass government (USA,RUSSIA,CHINA... etc  step up and help..... The japanese can not do this on their own. Who the FK needs obama care when everyone is low level radioactive poisioned. This gets worse by the week!

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 06:23 | Link to Comment negative rates
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Remain calm, on a long enough timeline, Obama care will increase the Japanese survival rate from zero to infinity with enough of your peoples money and time. Once it becomes law, it's game on, I mean who doesn't want to live to infinity?

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:33 | Link to Comment Fish Gone Bad
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This is affecting the entire planet. Why isn't the entire planet involved in this?

I am pretty Jesus isn't coming to the rescue either.   So let's just scratch the Church off the list of anyone having anything other than the power of guilt.  Global warming will be taken care of soon enough when all oxgen breathing life is gone.  If one waits long enough, no one will be alive to be afraid and that my friend is how a problem is solved.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 03:58 | Link to Comment old naughty
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Not the sheeples, but they're.

DUMB, FEMA camps, Perma-Frost Seed Bank, remnants-tracking-datacenter, to say a few...

and then there are not-yet-occupied houses, for terminators.

And war plan(s) waiting to be excuted...and then,

it will be complete.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 01:09 | Link to Comment Joe A
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The UN Scientific Committee on the Effects on Atomic Radiation (UNSCEAR) said there is nothing to see and nothing to worry about so the planet can continue sleeping.

Enenews.com for your regular updates on Fukushima and other nucleair trouble

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 04:30 | Link to Comment putaipan
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of all the moments to lose faith in humanity... i do believe this was the one that pushed me over the edge. where were the robots? the men in in radioactive proof space suits?

capitalism? bring on the entrepenurial preventative eco-extortionists, please.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:22 | Link to Comment shermacman
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Going long in lead and iodine.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 02:58 | Link to Comment sgorem
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what a disgusting, deadly clusterfuck this has become for the Japanese people. not unlike Bophal, Buffalo Creek coal mine slurry damn breaking in WV., Three Mile Island, the Johnstown Floods in Pa., and on and on and on. someone needs to fucking die over this shit other than the VICTIMS.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 10:47 | Link to Comment DosZap
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 the citizens are being exposed to highly cancerous substances still.

 

 

Should have read WORLDWIDE from contaminated seafood, and beaches.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 21:57 | Link to Comment NoWayJose
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How do I invest in 'Glow in the dark' sushi?

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:22 | Link to Comment shermacman
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Sushi is good, when it is cooked.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 21:57 | Link to Comment CPL
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BULLISH!

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:18 | Link to Comment TheFourthStooge-ing
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Not just bullish, three-horned bullish!

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 21:58 | Link to Comment Seize Mars
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Absolutely NOTHING has been done to clean up or mitigate this disaster. Nothing.

It's almost as if...the powers that be...really, really hate human beings...

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:06 | Link to Comment Cdad
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Come now...it's not true that nothing has been done to mitigate the disaster.  Tepco, a publicly traded company prior to the disaster, was nationalized, and tax payer monies were effectively pledged to fix the Tepco mess.  Progress...

Also, I hear there is a monument being erected to properly mark the level of incompetence demonstrated by Tepco's board, and by the IAEA.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:13 | Link to Comment el Gallinazo
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Only when malevolence utterly fails to account for a development should we fall back upon incompetence as an explanation.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:22 | Link to Comment el Gallinazo
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Specifically in this thread, incompetence totally fails to explain the apparent stupidity of storing MOX (plutonium enriched) spent rods in a water bath physically supported by the reactor itself.  All of Japan is a dead man walking and their best scientists know it but are too timid to break their habit of conformity to the socially accepted modes of expression.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 01:42 | Link to Comment Totentänzerlied
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Thanks, I forgot to mention this particular absurd aspect of the plant.

As I said, everything ever designed by an engineer was designed with certain use-cases in mind, with certain limits beyond which it will break. The math may be (relatively) complex (to most) but the principle is simple: there are many wrong ways to use things, and one need not be a nuclear physicist to see how Japan's nuclear program (plant design and placement, specifically) is simply an accident waiting to happen, not really an accident at all, because they're just being lazy and using these plants (including spent-fuel storage) in places they were never meant to be.

Compare for example with Finland which is making use of its extremely old bedrock (in a very geologically stable area) for the Onkalo deep storage facility. On-site spent-fuel pools are pure hubris.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 09:09 | Link to Comment granolageek
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This is one of those cases. Every step of the 50 year clusterf*ck of bad choices is documented. From being casually sure that spent fuel recycling would just happen, to trying to get rid of a bazillion Soviet atomic weapons for minimum cost, the bad ideas may not have been publicized, but neither were they buried.

I'm not even convinced that the LWR was a deliberate choice to get plutonium. I think it was just chosen on the cheap because the US submarine program had already paid the R&D bill.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 00:04 | Link to Comment booboo
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I vote for a bronze statue of a Tepco Rep with both heads up his ass.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:24 | Link to Comment jim249
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There is probably nothing they can do. Just sit back and watch and hope the situation gets better by itself.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:41 | Link to Comment Seize Mars
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Baloney. Engineers LOVE solving problems. The more complicated, the better.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:01 | Link to Comment bonin006
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You are correct, but managers hate giving them the money they need to do it.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:11 | Link to Comment bonin006
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I see there is at least one manager here. 

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 00:09 | Link to Comment Rubbish
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Look at the bright side, in 20 years Ford will dominate, Toyota and Honda will be gone. In 50 years everyone will drive a Benz.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 09:22 | Link to Comment GeezerGeek
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Drive a Benz? And end up like Michael Hastings? Who'd want a car with an engine that comes out so easily?

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 00:03 | Link to Comment drink or die
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You have just described by 10+ year career as an engineer in one sentence.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 03:06 | Link to Comment Wile-E-Coyote
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The point is you can't clean up a disaster like that, you need humans to do the work, the problem is the radiation levels are so high any worker would be dead in minutes. This disaster is going to be with us forever.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 09:24 | Link to Comment GeezerGeek
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What Japan needs is a really large sinkhole to appear under Fukushima. Too bad Florida can't export a few.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 11:13 | Link to Comment misitu
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The robots haven't been doing too well there either ...

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 13:25 | Link to Comment Cult of PersonALity
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just thinning the herd

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 21:59 | Link to Comment stinkhammer
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let us monetize Tritium Bonds!

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 21:59 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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I am confident my taxes are being collected to address issues such as this,

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:02 | Link to Comment PiratePawpaw
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I give 3 thumbs up.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:16 | Link to Comment Hulk
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I give my center nut...

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:01 | Link to Comment max2205
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Low ball

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:02 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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What are we down to now?... 6.9 billion?... Keep going & pass the caviar...

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:02 | Link to Comment N57Mike
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Shikata ga nai ..... It cannot be helped, quote KB

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 10:15 | Link to Comment dvfco
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That's not true - something can be done.  Isn't the IKEA dude building fallout shelters for minors before he drops dead?   Or was that some other form of shelter?  Call Dean Kaman - quick.   He'll turn that shit into clean drinking water, electricity and Segways for everyone - and wheelchairs that can climb stairs.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:03 | Link to Comment Sabibaby
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Tritium makes my night sights glow.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:06 | Link to Comment spanish inquisition
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In other news, Japan expects the anxiety of its population to increase causing potential health issues unrelated to radiation.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:19 | Link to Comment shermacman
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Bullish for Xanax!

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:47 | Link to Comment Fish Gone Bad
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causing potential health issues unrelated to radiation.

Their anxiety is discovering that their country pretty much gave everyone cancer.  Kids, moms, dads, grandma, the dog, everyone gets to win the cancer lottery.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:07 | Link to Comment whopper
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buy GE, they built the reactor.

GE is cheap.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 04:41 | Link to Comment Parrotile
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Electric Bond & Share Company were Principal Architects - and, surprise - they too are an (ex) GE Company! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_Bond_and_Share_Company

Wonder who TOLD the Japanese Government where the Power Station was going to be built - whether they liked it or not??

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:07 | Link to Comment Uber Vandal
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Articles like this would be a bit more readable to many people of things like becquerels were explained a bit more, or at least what the "safe" reference / standard is.

For example, the "safe" amout of becquerels is 300 per kilogram of water (read one liter). So, if 300 is safe, 2,300 or 510,000 must be very beneficial to everyone's health. (sarc).

More can be found here: http://politicalblindspot.org/still-uncontained-fukushima-leak/

 

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:09 | Link to Comment espirit
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Don't think I'll be eating Pacific seafood for the next 10,000 years or so...

Just saying.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:33 | Link to Comment budda
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You think the Atlantics any better what about that clusterfuck near Portland.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:40 | Link to Comment Lore
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Won't do much good. The plume spread over the entire hemisphere in a matter of weeks. It's in your food chain.

Melted fuel removal at Fukushima plant planned from 2020 at earliest (27-Jun)

Dr. Helen Caldicott: Radiation and Fukushima, What They Aren’t Telling You (3-Jul)

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 00:01 | Link to Comment Fish Gone Bad
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Everyone knows the solution to pollution is dilution...  Except when it is not.  In this case, they really just need to permanently get rid of the stuff.  I can only hope that I am not the only person to figure this out.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 01:46 | Link to Comment Lore
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Re: "Everyone knows the solution to pollution is dilution."

That is simplistic, misleading, sweeping generalization, and glib, and sounds like disinformation propagated by the Gaia Cult to discredit opposing viewpoints.  "Everyone" does not "know," nor should they, since labels can be attributed to different things in different contexts.  Let us not disregard natural processes of degradation that might undermine the mythology upon which aspiring control freaks base their career ambitions.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 00:24 | Link to Comment CheapBastard
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ABC San Diego: Alarming report of Fukushima fallout harming U.S. infants(Dept of Nuclear Engineering, Berkeley)

 

 

http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/forum/218/abc-san-diego-alarming-report-fuku...

 

I think this was poste dbefore but here it is again.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:11 | Link to Comment Omen IV
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this will be the model in the USA - poison the population with cancer slowly after they take away any medical insurance

massive extermination for romneys 46% and blame some bankrupt corporation who will never pay the claims - it's not maybe but when

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:12 | Link to Comment dreadnaught
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ive stopped eating all of our once delicious PNW seafood; And i wont buy anything from the Gulf, either; I eat no red meat so its 'untreated' chicken for me

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 07:24 | Link to Comment onthesquare
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food is so over rated.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:25 | Link to Comment One And Only
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Bloomberg should ban radiation.

Better yet, tax it.

Tax people who emit carbon dioxide or radiation.

Tax people who have more than two breaths per day. Major revenue there and save the planet at the same time, while saving people from themselves.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:19 | Link to Comment rsnoble
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I'm going to Mcdonald's for a fish sandwich fk it.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:22 | Link to Comment hmmmstrange
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Nothing to worry about. Naturally occurring tritium in the ocean is seeping into the ground water under the reactor.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:30 | Link to Comment el Gallinazo
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Tritium is essential for the manufacture of hydrogen bombs.  Finally Japan has a useful natural resource.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:28 | Link to Comment JJ McApe
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free sushi - it keeps growing back on its own. better than chernobyl chicken surprise.

lol

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:29 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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Wait...wait...wait just a minute! Did something happen at Fukushima?

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:37 | Link to Comment Jack Burton
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You have to credit Japanese media and it's western allies in taking the melt down of three reactors and spinning it into a non-story. If you remember, one morning Tepco and the Japanese government announced to the world that all reactors had been put into stable cold shut down. This is a safe state, with the reactions over and nothing bad coming out.

From that day on, victory was proclaimed, and now new stories even came out as to how long before the reactors were up and producing electricity again. Talk about SPIN!

I am no expert on nuclear reactors, but during the crisis I read what I could about this situation. Melt Downs make the term cold shutdown a joke, or a hoax! Then there are the storage ponds, one of which was vaporized by the blasts.

I can  only guess that Japan sees saving face well above saving life. The level of contamination is secret, and where it has spread is a secret. How dangerous it is is a secret. This whole fucking story is a secret. Japan's leaders know that it will be some time before the deaths start to pile up. So in political terms, they can serve out their terms in safety.

It may be a decade at least before the damage becomes too apparent to hide. Till then, expect your Japanese and Western Media to follow orders from corporate headquarters and lie and cover up. Remember how terrible a job the Soviet Union did in covering up their nuclear meltdown? They couldn't hide anything. But in Japan!? Just the opposite, the efficient corporate media and democratic governments managed to kill the story dead, to sweep it into an Orwellian memory hole, almost nothing is known or even suspected by the public. Both the Japs and Ameicans have done the perfect cover up job. Communism couldn't even cover up the news, but crony capitalism seems able to kill and bury any news they do not like.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:43 | Link to Comment Seize Mars
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jack burton

Chilling, but I agree

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:02 | Link to Comment TNTARG
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Secret? That the MSM isn't talking about it doesn't make it secret. Desperate messages of people from Japan are on the Internet. And... We all know the heavy contamination of seawater is slowly spreading worldwide, first up in the north, finally everywhere. Earth will heal, anyway. The Planet has enough time.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:17 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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there was the "slight" problem of the two explosions...one which blew reactor 4 sky high. hm. "long silence ensued." and still does I might add "with occasional perculations of truth." trust ms the enormity of the catastrophe is already well known by the authorities. for whatever reason it's up to Japan to ask for help before anything gets done. rather odd considering the state of the US economy if you ask me. the USA has a lot to gain by offering it's services in this regard.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:45 | Link to Comment el Gallinazo
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And one of those explosions was apparently nuclear, as opposed to a "traditional" hydrogen / oxygen combustion reaction following a dissociation of water from the high temperature of the meltdown.  Retired nuclear engineer Arnie Gunderson and his buddies noticed this as the velocity of the ensuing shock wave was too great to be caused by a chemical explosion as the MSM blathered.  However, Arnie and his buddies were totally at a loss to explain how one could have a nuclear explosion under these conditions.  Time to queue up the woowoo music.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:35 | Link to Comment el Gallinazo
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This whole fucking story is a secret. Japan's leaders know that it will be some time before the deaths start to pile up. So in political terms, they can serve out their terms in safety.

 

Great comment as usual Jack Burton.  Only the ongoing catastrophe is so huge that there may be less time than one might imagine until it becomes impossible to hide the health effects on the population.  And as we all know, infants and children are the first to be affected by radiation.  Dying children may piss off the Japanese people though it's probably already too late to do much about it constructively other than hang the bastards slowly.

 

 

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 01:43 | Link to Comment notadouche
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Crony capitalism?  Perhaps.  But when one considers the terrific spill in the Gulf by BP and the only real story by MSM was the billions paid by BP and the constant PR and nothing about the actual environmental damage.  I've seen more on the Exxon Valdez from decades ago then this Gulf spill.  Then think about the NSA mystery, enigma wrapped in a riddle shit.  Along with the outright voodoo statistical economic numbers spewed by countries all over the world.  The drones that gets just a little coverage and "considered criticism" by a small group.  The total lack of journalistic integrity for 5 plus years of the current US administration.  Secrets, secrets and more secrets.

My point is, instead of going on and on about the underreported transgressions of governments world wide, is that the term that should be used is "Crony Politicalism".  Maybe they are hand in hand and one in the same but crony capitalism suggest to me that it's only the monetary elite pulling the strings of that there can be no doubt but they do in fact have some very willing partners in the political and media elite that need to have the spotlight squarely shown on them if for nothing else that those other two factions can't hide behind and openly complain about "crony capitalism" as if they are not squarely in the middle of that jackpot.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 04:53 | Link to Comment Parrotile
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Easy to "blame" BP (half of which is US owned anyhow) - but who was doing (and therefore responsible for) the "Actual Drilling"??

Oh yes - that would be yet another "Expert" US Company wouldn't it - HALLIBURTON.

Hallibuton caused the problem, not BP. How about you Americans accepting the blame fror YOUR incompetence once in a while, rather than following the usual "easy way out" of blaming everyone else, particularly the British.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 09:39 | Link to Comment GeezerGeek
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If the MSM doesn't talk about something, it isn't important. Radiation from Fukushima? No big deal. Benghazi deaths? IRS as a political weapon? NSA spying on Americans? Deaths related to Fast & Furious?

Then look at what is considered of sufficient importance, whereby the sheeple may be distracted: Zimmerman trial; Snowden affair.

The MSM is beyond being 'crony capitalism'. It is now nothing less than the propaganda arm of a Fascist government.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:34 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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     San Onfre might be open to storing some of Tepcos waste. /sarc

 http://www.kpbs.org/news/2013/jun/10/san-onofre-nuclear-power-decommissi...

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:34 | Link to Comment SmittyinLA
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What about a nuclear bomb strike on Fukushima?

(We'd give 'em warning this time) Would that diminish the problem?

Or just put it (the mess) into the atmosphere?

 

Or can you get rid of nuclear waste with nuclear bombs?

 

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:56 | Link to Comment TheFourthStooge-ing
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Or just put it (the mess) into the atmosphere?

That.

BTW, everyone, the serial junker is back, hitting the red arrow on all comments.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:25 | Link to Comment el Gallinazo
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Wonder if he gets paid by the -1's.  Maybe Snowden would know.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:18 | Link to Comment Maxter
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Unfortunatly, there is nothing that we know of that can stop radioactive elements from decaying.  We can only wait for them to finish decaying.  This can sometimes takes centuries and more.  The best we can do is bury it all and hope there is no leak.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 04:36 | Link to Comment The Abstraction...
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Build more nuclear reactors and use them to drive the decay of the existing waste.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:50 | Link to Comment el Gallinazo
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Or can you get rid of nuclear waste with nuclear bombs?

 

Interesting idea, Smitty.  Turn it into a book and title it Keynesian Nucleonics.  You would probably get an op ed spot with the NY Times.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:53 | Link to Comment zebra
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this is why we need to print highly-absorbing, toilet-paper-like Dollar, Yen, and Euro to absorb all the funny water and 'contain' the issue...

get Ben on the phone and start the printing press!

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:01 | Link to Comment reader2010
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Meanwhile, the Fukushima seafood is supposed to be good here in the states.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 01:25 | Link to Comment Bear
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hot shrimp without hot sauce

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:24 | Link to Comment q99x2
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At least the data is limited. We know how important that is.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 00:10 | Link to Comment Brixton Guns
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Agenda 21 moving full steam ahead.  Next chapter: Lousiana sinkhole developments...  big badda boom... New Madrid faultline...  meanwhile Corexit spraying continues.

Reactors failed just PRIOR to the quake suggesting STUXNET or FLAME-like shenanigans, HAARP's scalar weather weaponry was used to cause the Fuku quake, and a MIRACL deuterium fluoride satellite chemical laser started the Gulf disaster, deployed by CENTCOM.  What's next??

Best site for latest news on these and other disasters:  http://www.enenews.com

Moar hopium!

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 03:17 | Link to Comment Mr. Hudson
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The Yellowstone cauldron erupting would be a sight to see.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 00:53 | Link to Comment LongBallsShortBrains
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The solution to pollution is dilution.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 01:38 | Link to Comment Bunga Bunga
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Don't worry, UN said it is all fine, nobody will get cancer.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 04:43 | Link to Comment Lady Heather...UNCLE
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Kill 'em all 'n let God sort 'em out

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 06:14 | Link to Comment FJ
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What do you get when you cross a banker with a Fukushima fish? An unbearable loan shark...
Tue, 07/09/2013 - 07:30 | Link to Comment onthesquare
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God made tritium

"At GE we make it better"

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 07:43 | Link to Comment razorthin
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Holy becquerel!

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 08:32 | Link to Comment Ranger4564
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Hello World!

 

People, no one is this incompetent. The Japanese Nuclear nightmare is being mismanaged on purpose... they cannot ask for western / outside help because they can't trust anyone; they cannot control the situation because they're most likely being blackmailed with even more devastation if they even try; they are, like hte BP oil disaster in the Gulf of Mexico, being forced to pollute as much as they can.

Don't ask me why, contrary to what some (nay many) of you believe, I'm not the one whose insane. I honestly suspect it's to kill off as many people as possible. Maybe the oligarchs / henchmen have some sort of desire to obliterate the planet before they die. Maybe they have some concoction, like an enema, to cleanse their bodies of these pollutants, or maybe their own bodies are more toxic than these pollutants...

What I don't get is, in the land of the Samurai / Kamikaze... no suicidal maniacs have volunteered to go in and put these things in concrete sarcophagii... what, they're only suicidal when they can kill many more before hare kiri? Where is the nationalistic pride? Where is the humanistic pride? Where is the fucking responsibility / culpability?  I want to see every Japanese citizen trying their damndest to control the nuclear nightmare...

I told a group of disbelievers when the Fukushima disaster happened that the only way this can be controlled if every nation in the world sent in their nuclear experts and came up with strategies to contain this disaster... alternately, I said send in the military nuclear containment teams from the nations who have them... they aren't laughing now, but they are none the wiser...

As far as I can tell, logic suggests that this disaster was created, it will not be contained.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 08:46 | Link to Comment bugs_
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Believing TEPCO will fix Fukushima is like believing central banks will fix the economy.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 10:07 | Link to Comment Youri Carma
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Tepco’s Woman on the Inside Leading Push to Restart Reactors
8 July 2013
, by Jacob Adelman (Bloomberg)
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-08/tepco-s-woman-on-the-inside-leading-push-to-restart-reactors.html

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 10:13 | Link to Comment Goldbugger
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While tritium has several different experimentally determined values of its half-life, the National Institute of Standards and Technology lists 4,500±8 days (approximately 12.32 years).[1] It decays into helium-3 by beta decay as in this nuclear equation:

3
1
T
  ?  3
2
He1+
  +  e?  +  ?
e

and it releases 18.6 keV of energy in the process.

Tritium is an isotope of hydrogen, which allows it to readily bind to hydroxyl radicals, forming tritiated water (HTO), and to carbon atoms. Since tritium is a low energy beta emitter, it is not dangerous externally (its beta particles are unable to penetrate the skin), but it is a radiation hazard when inhaled, ingested via food or water, or absorbed through the skin.[15][16][17][18] HTO has a short biological half-life in the human body of 7 to 14 days, which both reduces the total effects of single-incident ingestion and precludes long-term bioaccumulation of HTO from the environment.[

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 10:16 | Link to Comment Goldbugger
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Total meltdown in FUK will FUK the pacific.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uy4hVIbLzkA

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 11:35 | Link to Comment rosiescenario
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...making ocean front property in California finally affordable.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 11:16 | Link to Comment Guinny_Ire
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They're just now measuring this? Jon Corzine School of Management.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 11:28 | Link to Comment rosiescenario
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The government needs to re-frame this tritium / groundwater issue....they should announce that they will be offering for sale leases for companies wishing to reclaim the tritium from the groundwater....proceeds from the sale and the ongoing royalties shall be allocated to pay interest on government issued bonds....

 

Obviously these folks have not heard the expression "A problem is just an opportunity in work clothes".

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 11:33 | Link to Comment rosiescenario
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....while a few years outdated, the following shows the profit potential of the tritium extraction:

 

Old DOE price was $10K/gm Present Canada price is ~$30K/gm Expected cost for future US production has been:  $100K to $200K/gm DOE Inspector General report (12/2003) states that the DOE needs to accurately assess tritium needs and states: “Tritium costs in the range $84,000 to $130,000 per gram, depending on actual production requirement, and excess tritium would simply decay without being used.” This assumes that a light water reactor is used for production Thus, $100K/gm appears to be a good value 4 kg startup cost at $30,000/gm:  $120M 4 kg startup cost at $100,000/gm:  $400M 1 kg/yr operation--$30M/yr vs. $100M/yr

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 13:31 | Link to Comment esum
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does this mean iran will fire GE before it completes the bomb

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 15:40 | Link to Comment NeverForgetSilver
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I thought that tritium occurs naturally in sea water. It is not a product of fission reaction. It is a fuel for fusion when it is enriched.

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