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U.S. Government’s Secret Move To Hide Files On The Osama Bin Laden Raid

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Submitted by Michael Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

The Osama Bin Laden raid was suspect from the very beginning.  Not only were key initial descriptions of the assault completely incorrect (such as him being armed and his wife being killed), but the manner in which his body was rapidly tossed into the ocean was beyond bizarre.  I mean, Tony Soprano keeps a body longer than that.

Well it seems the “most transparent administration ever” has made sure that the American public never receives any information beyond the propaganda of Zero Dark Thirty. From the Associated Press:

WASHINGTON (AP) — The nation’s top special operations commander ordered military files about the Navy SEAL raid on Osama bin Laden’s hideout to be purged from Defense Department computers and sent to the CIA, where they could be more easily shielded from ever being made public.

 

The secret move, described briefly in a draft report by the Pentagon’s inspector general, set off no alarms within the Obama administration even though it appears to have sidestepped federal rules and perhaps also the Freedom of Information Act.

 

But secretly moving the records allowed the Pentagon to tell The Associated Press that it couldn’t find any documents inside the Defense Department that AP had requested more than two years ago, and could represent a new strategy for the U.S. government to shield even its most sensitive activities from public scrutiny.

 

McRaven’s directive sent the only copies of the military’s records about its daring raid to the CIA, which has special authority to prevent the release of “operational files” in ways that can’t effectively be challenged in federal court. The Defense Department can prevent the release of its own military files, too, citing risks to national security. But that can be contested in court, and a judge can compel the Pentagon to turn over non-sensitive portions of records.

 

The AP asked the Defense Department and CIA separately for files that included copies of the death certificate and autopsy report for bin Laden as well as the results of tests to identify the body. While the Pentagon said it could not locate the files, the CIA, with its special power to prevent the release of records, has never responded. The CIA also has not responded to a separate request for other records, including documents identifying and describing the forces and supplies required to execute the assault on bin Laden’s compound.

 

McRaven’s unusual order would have remained secret had it not been mentioned in a single sentence on the final page in the inspector general’s draft report that examined whether the Obama administration gave special access to Hollywood executives planning a film, “Zero Dark Thirty,” about the raid. The draft report was obtained and posted online last month by the Project on Government Oversight, a nonprofit watchdog group in Washington.

 

The refusal to make available authoritative or contemporaneous records about the bin Laden mission means that the only official accounts of the mission come from U.S. officials who have described details of the raid in speeches, interviews and television appearances. In the days after bin Laden’s death, the White House provided conflicting versions of events, falsely saying bin Laden was armed and even firing at the SEALs, misidentifying which of bin Laden’s sons was killed and incorrectly saying bin Laden’s wife died in the shootout. Obama’s press secretary attributed the errors to the “fog of combat.”

Yep, just trust them...

Full article here.

 

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Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:40 | 3732941 francis_sawyer
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Zero 'Transparency' Thirty

<== Hi 'kito'... MWAH]...

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:44 | 3732987 13thWarrior
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Taliban were goldbugs and wanted Gold & Silver as money. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71upDpq3sbo

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:00 | 3733037 TeamDepends
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Bin Laden was dead by '04 or are there dialysis machines in heaven?

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:12 | 3733077 DoChenRollingBearing
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The day they said they gave him his Muslim funeral at sea and then slipped his body into the Indian Ocean was the day I joined the Tinfoil Hat Brigade.  Liars!  How are we supposed to ever believe .gov when they LIE to us or otherwise don't provide real answers to real questions?

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:26 | 3733127 Skateboarder
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The truth is you'll never know the truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBzJGckMYO4

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:31 | 3733135 nope-1004
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The night BinLaden was "found" was the same night gold and silver were smashed 20+% in minutes.  IMO, this was an orchestrated cover story for the banksters and Fed to put the brakes on a runaway PM train, fearful of exposing the USD for all it is:  JUNK.

I maintain, and will always maintain, that the BinLaden story was a cover for the massive PM corruption and raid.

But if Obama wants to release info and prove me wrong, please do!!

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 00:16 | 3733216 markmotive
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Some say they hid the truth because the raid was effectively an act of war.

http://www.planbeconomics.com/2013/07/bin-laden-raid-files-made-secret.html

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 00:26 | 3733230 Herd Redirectio...
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And what day was another infamous gold smash?  The Boston Marathon bombing?

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 00:59 | 3733266 SafelyGraze
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a somewhat redacted version of the report is included below

- target was identified

- participants made calls on their "mobile phones", telling loved ones that "I will miss you" and "hug grammy for me"

- some of the participants' messages were stored in "voice mail"

- participant is heard shouting "let's roll"

- participants overpowered target

- all evidence of target disappears into a 6-foot wide and 2-foot deep charred crater in rural pennsylvanistan

 

 

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 02:43 | 3733370 Harlequin001
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So, all in all about as accurate and believable as America putting a man on the moon...

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 08:38 | 3733605 Richard Chesler
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Obozo's transparency makes facts stranger than tinfoil.

I say we cut the cunt open to see what's in it.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 08:38 | 3733606 GMadScientist
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Or any amount of other underhanded dealing with the Paki ISI.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 01:46 | 3733319 All Risk No Reward
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Don't limit the false narrative...

Remember, that fake *ss birth cert was released just prior and this kicked it out of the news.

Donald Trump played the controlled opposition role in order to give the unthinkers a "credible" authority on which to base their belief in the false narrartive.

Don't forget that the "fat finger" (they think we are really that stupid!) flash crash occurred EXACTLY at the same time Congress was debating to set a limit on the size of the Big Finance Capital front corporations and end TBTF.

Needless to say, they voted that one down and the flash crash provided the necessary cover.

 

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 04:12 | 3733415 Poor Grogman
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Quick over there something shiny!

People are starting to notice this nonsense

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 04:22 | 3733417 Spanky
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+1

Indeed. We are.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 08:32 | 3733592 Widowmaker
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The nonsense from November 22, 1963 is all Widowmaker ever needed to recognize organized crime dripping from government seams.

As if ANY of this bullshit is different...

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 09:38 | 3733750 Herd Redirectio...
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Here we are 50 years later.  And where are those documents?

Oh, there was a team of 20+ guys assembled on Nov 11, the kill shots came from the Grassy Knoll, and the team was assembled by a certain GHW Bush (who had a proclivity for assembling death squads, and coups,  but until this point always foreign coups)?  Interesting.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 10:36 | 3733885 A Nanny Moose
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Government is just the faction of the mafia, which was better at rigging the last election.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 00:54 | 3736519 All Risk No Reward
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"The state is a gang of thieves writ large."
~Murray Rothbard

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 07:26 | 3733416 Spanky
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+1

Just between you and I, ARNR, the false narrative extends far beyond these pieces of recent history. Back before John F., twins Allen and John F.D., and Lee, to the creation the State Dept.'s Policy Planning branch, and further back still to study groups funded by JPM himself and John D.

I understand whom we oppose...

There are no guarantees, but I think we can collapse their little scheme, or at least set them back significantly. But we cannot do so by waiting, or using half-measures. They do not. We cannot.

I've argued these points before and made little headway. Tired of the wild man in the wings mantle and stepped back. But increases in USG domestic capabilities, as well as the clear intent of recent legislation and executive orders, now make time of the essence. Based on my evaluation of circumstances, we can no longer afford to stand-down.

Perhaps what I propose is not adequate to our task. And it very well may not be. But what other viable alternative brightens our horizon? Thus far, among serious proposals, I count none.

You do yourself disservice sir, from what I have read of your posts. The logic of our circumstance is clear and a present danger looms. Will you continue to sit idly by and merely pour greenhouse gas into the air? Or consider our greater good, and duty to our families.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 07:38 | 3733535 new game
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think about hiding in the woods in makeshift camps defending yourself against self proclaimed liberators verses taking a stand and putting it all on the line.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 01:20 | 3736560 All Risk No Reward
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Hi Spanky,

My view, for better or worse, is that the International Bankster Cartel's (IBC) war on America and the Western world is asymmetrical debt based, fractional reserve monetary Art of War warfare.

Therefore, I believe our response ought well to be asymmetrical and financial in nature.

Perhaps this is the hole in the Debt Star that leads to the Debt Star's one weak point.

The suggestions are doable by everyone - and if everyone did it then we'd have "game on" with these criminals.  As I've said before, though, the people prefer to be consumers over citizens.

The suggestions are included on page two of the following Debt Money Tyranny document:

Debt Money Tyranny
http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/4768883/debtmoneytyranny-6-1-pdf-60k?tr=77

In my mind, "The Resistance" includes the following:

1. Spend cash in order to deny the credit card "vig" to the big bad banksters.
2. Shop small and shop local.
3. Gain ever more control over the necessities of life.
4. Start gardening - Square Foot Gardening is an excellent system for noobs and veterans alike.
5. Avoid establishment propaganda - cut cable TV.  If you must, use Netflix and watch the documentaries.
6. Fire your phone company and your high priced cell phone.  Shop around for a cheap VOIP type solution and inexpensive cell service.
7. Learn to live more with less - http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/ and http://earlyretirementextreme.com .
8. Talk to people.  Develop resources that communicate the message.
9. Don't vote for a bankster finance puppet in elections and explain to people that they are wasting their vote by doing so. We will have won when a bankster financed media promotes a bankster candidate and that seals their fate as a loser.  We are making progress, but still have a long way to go.
10. Get your money out of the bankster's corporate banking fronts and tell the businesses you patronize that they should do the same.  Use good local credit unions instead.
11. Read books like Tragedy and Hope, Thank You for Arguing, Uncovering the Logic of English, A well Trained Mind, The Trivium: The Liberal Arts of Logic, Grammar, and Rhetoric, etc...
12. Search "Trivium Education" and "Gene Odening podcasts," soak up the knowledge and spread the word.  None of the above can happen until there is a revolution in thought clarity between our own ears.

In short, "the bigs" are bad and focus what little money you need to earn and spend on your local community.

This tyranny requires our participation in it - and that's what frustrates me more than anything else.  The selfishness and narcissism of the people in society are being used to destroy it.

What I've listed above is how one truly "votes" in this Debt Money Tyranny.  I'm sure others can add more along the same lines.

If anyone has specific suggestions they'd like to add, please do.  If anyone wants to make a difference, please implement some or all of the ideas above - at least as much as you reasonably can.  If everyone cut their consumption of the bigs by just 50%, the world would be very different and "the small," that's people like you and I, would be much, much, much better off.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 06:13 | 3733466 GenXer
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Bin Laden killed May 2, 2011, Gold dropped May 4. So not quite what you claim

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 08:27 | 3733583 jvetter713
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Could be but since America has become a population of apathetic sheep, they no longer need to hide what they do.  Nobody notices and if they did, they certainly would not care.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 13:09 | 3734033 ToNYC
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Truth is that OBL died sometime in the 21st Century.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:29 | 3733134 nope-1004
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.

 

 

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 08:24 | 3733574 HardAssets
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In the old USSR most of the citizens knew the government lied about everything. When an overwhelming majority of the dumbed downed American citizenry stop being willing chumps, then there will be the possibility for this shit ending.

That could take a long time.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 08:39 | 3733595 Widowmaker
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What makes you think corruption and power is in weak hands?

"They" will slaughter your children for national security breakfast, naturally.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 08:52 | 3733630 Groundhog Day
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But they made a movie about it so it must be true.

Just like

9/11's flight something or other

bin ladin's attempted capture

facebook

.GOV loves using movies to twist lies to facts

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 01:00 | 3733267 Black Swan 9
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He died in December, 2001, of natural causes related to Marfan syndrome, as reported in ME newspapers at the time..

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 01:39 | 3733312 OpenThePodBayDoorHAL
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What I want to know is why he was doing jacknifes into the pool at the Bush Ranch in 1994. Why George Bush's first oil company was bankrolled by Osama's Dad. Oh, wait...I think I already know.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 04:35 | 3733422 Rick64
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Stranger is the coincidence that Bush was friends with the Hinkley family ( the family of the mentally unstable son that shot Reagan), and also friends with the Bin Laden family ( with the fanatic son). Whats the chances of that? Hmm

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 08:35 | 3733600 Widowmaker
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Even stranger is how Widowmaker knows that Jeb will be installed as US president.

Book it.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 12:11 | 3734191 Clycntct
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Hmmm lets see now HC or JB. How much fukn pain can I take.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 01:44 | 3733317 Freddie
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Benazir Bhutto also said Bin Liner died in 2001 but what did she know.  She was the Prime Minister of Pakistan and her family have been leaders in the country for decades.  She was assasinated in 2007.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benazir_Bhutto

 

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 09:16 | 3733690 BigInJapan
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Yeahhhh butttt, she and her husband were both total fuckups who defrauded Pakistan of billions and escaped into exile. Dumb bitch came back and got done like she deserved. You can stop crying now.

I'll believe the pile of shit in the toilet bowl before I believe what an Arab leader tells me about all things geopolitical, thank you very much.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 03:45 | 3733394 Kiwi Pete
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 Here's a link I  posted on Saturday for those that missed it:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/osama-bin-laden-dead-or-alive/15601 

(Article from 9 October 2009)

This was originally posted in relation to how easy it was for the spooks to track down OBL compared with Snowden. As it turns out, easy enough when he's been dead a decade.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 03:45 | 3733395 Kiwi Pete
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 Here's a link I  posted on Saturday for those that missed it:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/osama-bin-laden-dead-or-alive/15601 

(Article from 9 October 2009)

This was originally posted in relation to how easy it was for the spooks to track down OBL compared with Snowden. As it turns out, easy enough when he's been dead a decade.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 07:13 | 3733507 GaryNeville
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Correct, he died and was buried in the mountains in Afghan. I can't believe people actually believe this stuff - standing outside the white house chanting USA USA.. Obama must laugh to himself how easy this all is..!

 

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 07:32 | 3733530 tony wilson
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that is a lie.

if it is the truth 

then that is a lie

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 08:34 | 3733597 Badabing
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Norman Coordinate!

Vintage Star trek  

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 10:33 | 3733879 roadhazard
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57 ups, lol. If YOU know Osama was dead in '04 then so did the BushCo administration and he would have strut around like the swinging dick he was saying, "look at me". '04, an election year and it would have been the cherry on the election pie. Yeah, I believe he was going to let Obama get the glory, heh. My tin foil hat just ain't that big.

 

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 12:25 | 3734236 Cathartes Aura
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dude, consider the long time line.

the Bush family certainly does, generational. . .

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:01 | 3733044 NoDebt
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Holy cow.  Could there have been anything THAT incendiary in the files they needed to seal them air-tight?  Armed, unarmed, wife with him, wife not with him.... who gives a shit?  Hell, he could have been screaming "I'm a CIA operative!  Don't shoot!" at the top of his lungs when they put a bullet through his skull.... would it really matter?  Not like anyone would believe it.  The press is totally on-board with the administration's story, no matter how crazy or unsupported by facts.

This administration has the stench of FEAR all over it.  They could be the most paranoid people I've ever seen in office since Nixon.

 

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:07 | 3733071 Bollixed
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"Holy cow.  Could there have been anything THAT incendiary in the files they needed to seal them air-tight? "

Yes, the fact that it was all just a publicity stunt to keep America's eyes off the fake birth certifcate the WH published just a few days before.

Apparently, it worked...

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 00:15 | 3733214 cynicalskeptic
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'Could there have been anything THAT incendiary in the files they needed to seal them air-tight? '

 

uh.....it wasn't BinLaden.  

According to numerous sources he'd been dead since December 2001 (and had repeartedly denied ANY involvement in 9/11)

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 00:27 | 3733231 Herd Redirectio...
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"Don't shoot, its me Timmy Osman!"

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 01:56 | 3733331 prains
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of course he denied involvement, he wasn't a paid CIA employee by then

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 08:45 | 3733615 GMadScientist
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He was an 'asset' when ZBig was still walking the halls and the Russians were still in the Afghan hills.

 

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:19 | 3733106 MayIMommaDogFac...
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"I'm a CIA operative my name is Tim Osman"

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 01:26 | 3733292 HowardBeale
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Is it "paranoia" when you are guilty...

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 08:36 | 3733601 marathonman
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Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 02:01 | 3733335 FreedomGuy
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Clinton's lose files. Obama seals files. Holder holds files. Nothing new here. Your government means to rule by any means necessary. Get used to it.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 04:29 | 3733420 Spanky
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-1

Not something I'm comfortable with...

Get used to it. -- FreedomGuy

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 07:13 | 3733508 g speed
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the implictions of COG  --us against them --them against us---(we the people)        thats pretty simple and they started it---

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:04 | 3733055 traderjoe
Tue, 07/09/2013 - 01:58 | 3733332 prains
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as the tshirt says; "gone squatchin"

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 02:14 | 3733353 PhysicalRealm
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traderjoe:

buildingwhat.org apparently isn't around anymore, but this is:

http://rememberbuilding7.org/

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 07:26 | 3733524 g speed
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Is there a time for vigilanty justice? When would that be? It occured in places around the world and through out history when lawlessness and murder was the tool of kings and despots.  England was not above removing those. Many places in the world have gotton rid of tyranical despots throughout history. 

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:35 | 3732944 Dr. Engali
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When you consider the fact that the CIA's number one agent died in a cave, it's a no wonder they want those documents sealed. Speaking of sealed documents.....we still haven't seen Obummer's transcripts.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:36 | 3732949 francis_sawyer
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Fuck ~ we can't even get a TCBY foto of Snowden...

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:50 | 3732984 otto skorzeny
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that "TCBY in Moscow Airport" joke is mine.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:53 | 3733017 francis_sawyer
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I give you full credit for it... But I reserve the "Where is Waldo'?... idea to myself...

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:57 | 3733033 RideTheWalrus
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Why do they need to keep any OBL files in the public record anyway? They made a movie about it ffs, anyone can just netflix that when ever they want! Hollywood wouldn't lie to us.

 

 

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 04:06 | 3733412 jeff montanye
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that was totally my response too.   the director and/or screenwriter said that it was based on first hand accounts, was journalistic in its accuracy and was a movie not a documentary.  so there.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 06:10 | 3733465 Bendromeda Strain
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Maybe a few follow up questions with Seal Team 6 then...  oh

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 07:31 | 3733528 g speed
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+100 for "proof of the putting"

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 13:07 | 3734401 Things that go bump
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They're going to find it more difficult in the future to find willing patsies to put on such shows if they treat them the way the legends says Blackbeard treated the men who buried his tressure for him. Dead men tell no tales. 

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:13 | 3733089 otto skorzeny
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thanks- my decent material is few and far between.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 07:23 | 3733517 Croesus
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@ francis_sawyer:

Maybe they should rename this game, to "Where's Snowden?"

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/games/play/373275/

 

 

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:04 | 3733056 Lore
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"The past is erased, the erasure forgotten. A lie becomes truth and then becomes a lie again." - 1984

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:12 | 3733082 Ignatius
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Ironic that in reference to all this surveillance they say "if you,ve got nothing to hide why would you care?"

The jujitsu move is to flip it around on this Bin Laden raid bullshit.

But we know the answer to that one, don't we, bitches....

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 00:15 | 3733215 DaveyJones
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give it time the government will stop pretending it follows rules soon

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 07:28 | 3733525 Croesus
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You mean they still follow rules now???

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:11 | 3733080 Dr. Engali
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Don't forget about the FBI agents who killed thefirst "suspect" in the Boston bombing fiasco who "fell" from a helicopter.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/two-fbi-agents-involved-in-arrest-of-boston...

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:17 | 3733095 otto skorzeny
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helicopter crashes are passe- now its all about "brake failures". we're getting a different car and I'm trying to talk the wife into a 80's Monte Carlo SS- pre-GPS and computer controlled.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 00:30 | 3733234 Herd Redirectio...
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Any time they report (suspicious) deaths in a helicopter crash, you have to figure there are odds the crash is just a cover.  What I mean is, if you have 12 bodies or whatever to dispose of, all suicides with 2 shots to the back of the head ofc, you stick em on a helicopter, send it up, have the pilot parachute out (or maybe there is more autopilot capability than I am aware of).

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:18 | 3733104 johngaltfla
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Oops. Can't believe that happened either.

 

Arkanicide is spreading far and wide....

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 00:16 | 3733183 JustObserving
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Don't forget the killing of the Boston bombing witness by the FBI with seven shots including one to the head:

The extraordinary silence of the American media on the state killing of Ibragim Todashev, a key witness in relation to the recent Boston bombings, calls the official account of the bombings even further into question.

On May 22, Todashev was shot seven times by an FBI agent inside his house in Orlando, Florida, including once in the head, under the most dubious circumstances. Todashev was an acquaintance of alleged bombers Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. In the days following Todashev’s death, a half-dozen wildly inconsistent accounts of the killing were presented in the media before the story was dropped and buried.

The media first reported that Todashev attacked an FBI agent with a knife. After approximately a week, the “knife” story was unceremoniously abandoned without any explanation and replaced with a series of increasingly incredible accounts. (See “The state killing of Ibragim Todashev”) One account involved Todashev retrieving a “samurai sword.” Another involved a “metal pole” that “might have been a broomstick.”

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/06/11/toda-j11.html

 

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 00:19 | 3733222 DaveyJones
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you see, he was a witch

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 07:35 | 3733533 Spanky
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+1

Thanks for the link.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 00:37 | 3733240 Scro
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Before I die, I want to see his transcripts and see what he listed under nationality.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:37 | 3732946 Zé Cacetudo
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http://www.galacticempiretimes.com/2011/05/09/galaxy/outer-rim/obi-wan-k...

CORUSCANT — Obi-Wan Kenobi, the mastermind of some of the most devastating attacks on the Galactic Empire and the most hunted man in the galaxy, was killed in a firefight with Imperial forces near Alderaan, Darth Vader announced on Sunday

In a late-night appearance in the East Room of the Imperial Palace, Lord Vader declared that “justice has been done” as he disclosed that agents of the Imperial Army and stormtroopers of the 501st Legion had finally cornered Kenobi, one of the leaders of the Jedi rebellion, who had eluded the Empire for nearly two decades. Imperial officials said Kenobi resisted and was cut down by Lord Vader's own lightsaber. He was later dumped out of an airlock.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:38 | 3732959 Seize Mars
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LOL fucking priceless.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:27 | 3733119 eXMachina
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That was funny except it should have finished with "He was later dumped into space in respect with the traditional Muslim Jedi ritual".

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 00:32 | 3733237 Herd Redirectio...
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Jihadi or Jedi?

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 00:09 | 3733207 0b1knob
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I'm still alive!!!

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:37 | 3732954 Killuminati
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OPERATION WHO IS TIM OSBORNE

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:09 | 3733074 TheFourthStooge-ing
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I think you mean Tim Osman.

He was a script consultant for Zero Dark Thirty.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:19 | 3733105 otto skorzeny
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I think he meant Ozzy Osbourne.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 09:08 | 3733673 Badabing
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no, Donny Osman

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 01:20 | 3733287 Kirk2NCC1701
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Ah, Tim Tribesman. Or is it Tim T. Raid Kraft?

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:37 | 3732955 Seize Mars
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The biggest terrorist, the biggest thief, the biggest extortionist, the biggest murderer, the biggest liar...and the most paranoid of all megalomaniacs: the State.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:52 | 3733013 dick cheneys ghost
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Osama bin laden was job security for the Police State/MIC/FBI/NSA/CIA/Bankers/MSM/ etc...etc...etc...

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 01:24 | 3733291 Kirk2NCC1701
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I've been saying for years that OBL was the ultimate Poster Boy for the DoD and the MIC, and that Rumsfeld probably had a gold-framed picture of him in his office.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:37 | 3732956 zorba THE GREEK
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President Butto of Pakistan was on David Frost and said Bin Laden was killed in 2007 as if it were

commen knowledge.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:38 | 3732962 zorba THE GREEK
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Kill me once, shame on you, kill me twice shame on Obama.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 01:18 | 3733280 Black Swan 9
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And a few weeks (months?) later, she was dead, lured back to Pakistan, encouraged by some in the Bush Administration, to attempt a come-back there. It seemed like a setup.. To be blamed on Musharraf? Who may be executed soon. Dictators are dropping like flies in the ME.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 01:51 | 3733326 Freddie
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I think she said BL died in 2001.  Sadly she was assasinated in 2007.   She had been prime minister of Pakistan and her family her dad or uncle had been prime minister.  They would know.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:37 | 3732957 UP Forester
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Well, kind of hard to have proof of killing someone that's been dead for more than a decade....

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:40 | 3732970 Bay of Pigs
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What? You mean they don't have dialysis machines in the mountains of Pakistan?

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 03:59 | 3733405 Kiwi Pete
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Yeah the machine was missing from the photos I saw of his bedroom. You'd think he'd have it right there by his bed? 

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:39 | 3732965 stinkhammer
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the only thing barry killed is a few lines of coke after he sucked some dick for it

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:44 | 3732982 LetThemEatRand
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They made a movie about O in the 1980's.  Less than Zero.  

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 01:34 | 3733304 HowardBeale
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...and lower than whale shit.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:40 | 3732967 QQQBall
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When will the OBL sightings rival Elvis

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:41 | 3732969 LetThemEatRand
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His body was buried at sea.  The records were buried at CIA.   Literally nothing to see here.  Move along.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:55 | 3733022 ziggy59
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Sea Eye Aye

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:41 | 3732975 cherry picker
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Why the secrecy?  Maybe the movie was bullshit.  Maybe Bin Laden was innocent.  He denied ever doing 911.

Maybe Bin Laden died years ago and some other patsy was murdered and dumped in the ocean.

Can anyone believe .gov anymore?

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:49 | 3733003 Lost Word
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Maybe it was a brother or half brother of Osama bin Ladin.

Those wealthy Saudi princes tend to have large families with their multiple wives.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 06:45 | 3733485 eatapeach
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Maybe it was an effigy guaranteeing a dozen guys extraordinary wealth to keep the lie tight.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:44 | 3732983 JustObserving
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Osama bin Laden died on December 14, 2001  per the best information that we have.   So who was killed in the raid on that Abbottabad compound?

First, up until mid-December 13, 2001, the CIA had regularly been intercepting messages between bin Laden and his people. At that time, however, the messages suddenly stopped, and the CIA has never again intercepted a message.

Second, on December 26, 2001, a leading Pakistani newspaper published a story reporting that bin Laden had died in mid-December, adding:

“A prominent official in the Afghan Taleban movement . . . stated . . . that he had himself attended the funeral of bin Laden and saw his face prior to burial.”

Third, bin Laden had kidney disease. He had been treated for it in the American Hospital in Dubai in July 2001, at which time he reportedly ordered two dialysis machines to take home. If you have ever wondered what bin Laden was doing the night before the 9/11 attacks, CBS News reported that he was being given kidney dialysis treatment in a hospital in Pakistan.  And in January of 2002, Dr. Sanjay Gupta said – based on a video of bin Laden that had been made in either late November or early December of 2001 – that he appeared to be in the last stages of kidney failure.

Fourth, In July of 2002, CNN reported that bin Laden’s bodyguards had been captured in February of that year, adding: “Sources believe that if the bodyguards were captured away from bin Laden, it is likely the most-wanted man in the world is dead.”

Reason why Osama death was not announced:

Sources within Pakistani intelligence, who “confirmed the death of . . . Osama Bin Laden” and “attributed the reasons behind Washington’s hiding news on the death of Osama Bin Laden to the desire of the hawks of the American administration to use the issue of al-Qaida and international terrorism to invade Iraq.” 

For this reason, perhaps, the stories about the demise of bin Laden largely came to an end in the latter part of 2002, when the United States was gearing up for its attack on Iraq.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/osama-bin-laden-dead-or-alive/15601


Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:48 | 3732995 otto skorzeny
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I don't know who died in the raid but there was a helicopter full of navy seals who won't be telling anyone about it.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:58 | 3733189 Bastiat
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I wonder how Seals and other spec ops folks feel about that?  Those  treacherous Chicago weasels should be scared.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 03:50 | 3733399 ebear
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"Those  treacherous Chicago weasels should be scared."

I guess you could say they sealed their fate.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 07:45 | 3733542 tony wilson
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the seals feel great they got a medal got to nail plenty of chicks.

treated like rock stars then all died in a small chopper accident.

semper fi

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 00:29 | 3733232 Richard Head
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So what to make of this admiral McRaven?  Did he sell his SEAL brothers out?

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:50 | 3733005 cherry picker
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What is great about your comment is that as much survellance as they are doing to us, we are getting the goods on our own government.  If our government were honest and open, we wouldn't have to ask these questions, would we?

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 01:46 | 3733320 HowardBeale
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"...getting the goods on our own government..."

True. Though calling it "our own" is a little self-deprecating. 

With the massive size of the security industrial clusterfuck-plex, it surely is a matter of time before the ground under D.C. shakes violently and the sheltering sea of bullshit recedes, leaving everyone who lived in or near that sea of bullshit sitting helplessly, knowing that a tsunami of their own making is about to innudate everything and everyone they knew...drowning in shit; and that, my friends, will be all about the Blowback of the Whistle Blower... They are coming en masse; they are going to shake this rotten house to the ground...

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:46 | 3732990 juangrande
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Nooo! You mean Hollywood's not real!!!! My world is obliterated.... 

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:55 | 3732992 newengland
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Who employed Edward Snowden...the same company that owns the Carlyle Group...the same people who employ U.S. government shills of Israel, and the House of Saud, created by British nazionists.

Always follow the money, and the facts.

Osama bin Laden was a CIA stooge who hated his family, and they returned the sentiment.

The USA is being manipulated by the old monarchists, vatican, nazionists who want endless war for their profit; old feudalism, same as the new feudalism.

Operation Paperclip imported nazionists to the USA after Hitler funded by banksters and liked by monarchists  failed. Fact.

The CIA is al-CIAda, is nazi. Kissinger is uber Nazi, along with George Soros who stole from jews in his youth, and now pretends to be a philanthrophist, and major funder of the Democraps...after the Communist Party of the USA disbanded, saying the Democrats adopted their agenda.

And now we see that Repugnants like McCain do so too. Shills for nazionist warmongers, contrary to the Constitution.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:55 | 3733024 mofreedom
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i hate john goober lindsay graham mccain more than you do, but are you saying binladen was a jew?

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:16 | 3733094 newengland
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I am saying that CONgress is nazionist, and no honest jew or christian agrees with its endless wars, contrary to the Constitution.

Most people dislike the endless war and bank bail-outs and lobbyists of CONgress. Fact.

You are ignorant if you think all jews are nazionist.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:26 | 3733126 mofreedom
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with you in everything.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:42 | 3733158 newengland
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Then we are friends, not nazionists, monarchists, and vatican banksters: the ruin of the world as we know it.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 01:54 | 3733328 Kirk2NCC1701
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Many Reed Sea pedestrians are not Naziomists.
But you bet your ass that the penis suckers in the Likud are. And they tell our Prez how things are gonna play out.

The Tribesmen have always held diverse views on most issues, but they'll circle the wagons when attacked from outside. Which is why their Naziomist Elite core makes sure that shit happens periodically, that ensures the circling of wagons. That way, even their own dissenters become defacto 'Familiars' to these banco-political vampires. The few who see through this are too few to matter.

There is nothing saintly or altruistic about their Naziomist Elite core. Nor do they give a damn about the laws of Moses. Like all feudal over-lords, they only care about Power. Global Power, to shape the world into their vision.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:59 | 3733036 13thWarrior
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As a Sunni muslim I totally agree with Saudis are creation of Britishers and Khazarian Zionists. There is a saying in our religion, that horn of satan will rise from Najd, the caravan looter tribe of Saud comes from Najd.

Same goes for Qatar, Kuwait and Rothschild's puppy UAE.

The Greater Israel will replace USA as ruling state and Pax Judaica will be established. Before that US economy need to collapse due to war and currency debasement with Israel taking over Arabian oilfields.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:11 | 3733072 newengland
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I wish you no harm, 13th warrior. I am no more capable of restraining hateful politicians than you. Peace be with you, brother. This is a very long road we walk.

The AshkeNAZI are fake jews, not christians and certainly not muslims, nor buddhist, nor any child of the Book.  They must get off their knees, and stop excusing their nazionist, monarchist, vatican rulers. In my opinion.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 02:04 | 3733337 Kirk2NCC1701
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Are you saying that they do not follow the Mosaic Laws, but are still on the Sumerian code?

I wonder if this was not Jesus's beef with the Elite (Pharisees and Sadducees), who were power hungry, selfish pricks.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:23 | 3733117 otto skorzeny
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hopefully kissinger will be correct about Israel's future- although maybe he meant it will morph into something different that its present state.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:47 | 3732993 A Lunatic
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Truthers, Birthers, Occupiers, Swimmers............

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:50 | 3733009 Dr. Gonzo
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I remember that Sunday night like it was yesterday. Silver was pennies away $50 and seconds away from taking out it's all time high in Asian trading. Then all of a sudden OBL came out of nowhere and rose from the dead and Obama killed him in the blink of an eye and then disposed of the body in an even faster twinkling of an eye...Cause we were terrifed that the Muslim street would rise up against us if we didn't dump the body in the ocean. (I mean everyone knows that when you assasinate a Muslim you got to dump the body in the ocean in strict accordance with Sharia law... cuz that's what they all do with their dead. It was a great moment in assasination history. Then and only then can you spike the football and say "fuck you terrorists we just killed one of you and you can't get mad cuz we dumped the body in the ocean like it says were supposed in the bible." If we wouldn't have disposed of the murder evidence immediately it would have gave the street cause to riot...unless you kill em with predetor drones. then that don't count...Oh yeah.  then silver crashed down to $25 and hasnt' stopped since. Weird how that happened. If we didn't have the news narrative to tell us how shit happens and how to logically process it all we'd be friggin lost. 

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 04:53 | 3733430 Spanky
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+1

I like you. You're funny. And have a good memory.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:50 | 3733010 fonzannoon
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The Pat Tillman "death" still blows me away. 3 bullets to the forehead, fired by a guy in a humvee bouncing along a terrain a hundred yards away.

or was it 10 feet away.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:00 | 3733038 ziggy59
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He wouldnt sell out.. You get 3 forehead shots when held down, face up and threatened to sell your soul and you dont...

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:12 | 3733084 jim249
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From what I have heard from Nam vets, if your fellow soldiers did not like you, you became a casualty of war. Killed in action.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 13:24 | 3734472 Things that go bump
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I think they called it "friendly fire!"

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:52 | 3733012 mofreedom
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the best thing the gub could have ever done was drag his diaper wearing head, whenever he may have died, onto the public square in, let us say, OK City and let the natives have their way with it, and let the diaper wearers everywhere watch it, and watch it, and watch it, and watch it...

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 22:55 | 3733021 Divine Wind
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Check with the Defense Forensics and Biometrics Agency in VA.

My sources within DoD and DOS, which are impeccable, indicate that something was slid over the side, but it was NOT Bin Laden.

A body was quickly flown back to the States after the operation for positive ID.

 

 

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:01 | 3733035 mofreedom
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you don't have any more sources than you wish you had slanted eyes like mine...quit lying.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:04 | 3733046 Divine Wind
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Old Slant-Eye'd MoFreedom!

 

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:15 | 3733085 mofreedom
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i didn't know mousolini's gay nephew's grand child was an aisan like me...my adopted dad's brother took a picture of the "douche" with piana wire around his neck...told me that what you do with traitors, or villans...what would you do with bin laden if you had his corspe in your hands?

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:23 | 3733118 newengland
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Divine Wind is more sophisticated than you, obviously. Be grateful for the courage and restraint of others, by which you live to tell your sorry tale.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:31 | 3733139 mofreedom
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thank you for your concern.

Mon, 07/08/2013 - 23:59 | 3733187 Divine Wind
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Feed him to the hogs.

Whatever is left would be buried with pig entrails.

All this would be filmed, of course.

That video would then be posted to every jihadi forum I could find.

How is that for starters?

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 06:29 | 3733475 PhilofOz
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Oooo!! We had to get the evil boogyman! It's quite incredible what an out of control government is able to convince their citizens is true when those citizens are incapable of cognitive process.

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