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On The Elusive Details of Michael Hastings' Death

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From Mike Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg

The Michael Hastings Car Crash: No Skids Marks, A Flying Engine And “Boston Brakes”

In cases such as the highly suspicious and tragic car crash/explosion that killed celebrated investigative journalist Michael Hastings, I try to reserve commentary for a little bit to let facts emerge following the initial speculative flurry. Particularly when it involves a journalist with whom I am only slightly familiar.  I think we can all agree at this point that based on what has come forward in the past several weeks it is more than likely Mr. Hastings was murdered. The following report from San Diego News 6 provides an excellent summary of what we know, and what we don’t know.  The LAPD doesn’t seem to care much about the latter.  From San Diego 6:

An eyewitness at the scene, Jose, employed at nearby business ALSCO Inc said, the car was traveling very fast and he heard a couple explosions shortly before the car crashed. In fact, the explosion was so intense that it took the LA County assistant corner, Ed Winter, two days to identify the burned-beyond recognition body of Hastings.

As news of the journalist’s death reached family and work colleagues another story emerged, one that would seemingly contradict the LAPD’s verdict. It quickly surfaced that Hastings reached out to Wikileaks attorney Jennifer Robinson just a few hours before his death claiming the FBI was investigating him. 

One particular passage in Hastings book, “The Operators: The Wild and Terrifying Inside Story of America’s War in Afghanistan,” revealed that a former McChrystal staff member made a death threat. “We’ll hunt you down and kill you if we don’t like what you write,” the unnamed staffer said. Hastings coolly retorted: “Well, I get death threats like that about once a year, so no worries.”

He later wrote; “I wasn’t disturbed by the claim. Whenever I’d been reporting around groups of dudes whose job it was to kill people, one of them would usually mention that they were going to kill me.”

But the most significant missing evidence was the absence of any skid marks—even though the car made a 60-degree turn into a palm tree.

Research of this topic reveals a new angle to this story, namely —Boston Brakes.


This theory was explained by a former Marine Gordon Duff who refers to the “Boston Brakes” technique, in which “drive by wire” cars, specifically a Mercedes Benz, can be manipulated remotely to simulate an out-of-control accident, according to his Veterans Today story (The 2010 story is a must read). The story details are eerily similar to Hastings fiery accident scene as there were no skid marks.

Adding credence to the possible car-hacking scenario is former U.S. National Coordinator for Security, Infrastructure Protection, and Counter-terrorism Richard Clarke. After news broke on the Hastings car accident, he confirmed the “drive by wire” concept.

Clarke told The Huffington Post that a single-vehicle crash is “consistent with a car cyber attack. There is reason to believe that intelligence agencies for major powers — including the United States — know how to remotely seize control of a car.”

Another significant detail pointed out by some members of law enforcement, is the intensity of the fire inside the car. It’s highly unusual since gasoline generally doesn’t burn that hot. Reviewing video footage from the scene, the intensity of the fire resembles a “thermite” burn.

Despite the LAPD’s categorization of the Hasting fatal accident as a “no (evidence of) foul play” accident, LAPD refuses to release the accident and toxicology reports, or make the Mercedes available for inspection which only fuels speculation.

LAPD on the case as usual.

Full article here.


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Tue, 07/09/2013 - 19:37 | 3735637 Captain Benny
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He was murdered.  Plain and simple.  Mercedes don't explode and toss the engine block 150 ft.  Oh and how did the police rule it an accident and no foul play involved when they didn't even contact Mercedes to assist in the investigation?

And why has the media been denied access to all police and incident reports?  And why have the first responders been told to shut the f*ck up about the incident?

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 19:37 | 3735643 ACP
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Motive, opportunity, means and the pattern of abuse of this administration is damning.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 19:39 | 3735647 ghandi
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The key is to have a car from 2004 or back, as they are not wired for hacking.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 19:40 | 3735653 francis_sawyer
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Stay away from the 1978 Ford Pinto...

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 19:55 | 3735660 The Thunder Child
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CPU was hacked to trigger full throttle and disable the brakes as well as engine ignition on/off that much is clear.

Michael Hastings "CAUGHT ON TAPE" Running Red-Light Seconds Before Crash police pursuit

The part that is less clear is the nanothermite they put on his gas tank and at key points on the cars frame (throwing the engine off it's mounts) turning the car into a firebomb. Look at 1:00-1:02 in the video and you can see molten white hot metal dropping from the cars frame in the lower right corner.

Murdered by government hitmen and the evidence swept up by the LAPD.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 19:56 | 3735686 Missiondweller
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The engine and drive train ending up behind the car makes me think of some type of explosive that would exert a force the opposite direction of the car, ie source directly in front of engine and drive train.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 20:04 | 3735705 Troll Magnet
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Chilling. And frightening. Just the way they like it. Now keep your mouth shut and pay taxes. Just the way they like it.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 20:16 | 3735729 Freddie
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Oh what was that Red Team Blue Team shit?  Romney was NWO lite but I doubt he would have done anything like this.  Oh and Hastings was not a conservative.  He was a reporter actually doing what reporters are supposed to do.


Tue, 07/09/2013 - 20:21 | 3735738 tmosley
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He sure as shit would have.  Both candidates were Bush III.  I think you know it.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 20:26 | 3735746 john39
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note the difference in outcomes between assange and assange 2.0 (snowden) vs. Hastings...     

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 20:51 | 3735820 philipat
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I have owned many Mercs and have two at present.

One of their key selling features, well known amongst owners, is that they do not spontaneously combust in "White flames" upon any impact.

Another selling feature is that the engine does not fly 150 Meters away during any impact... ;-)

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 21:01 | 3735887 Buckaroo Banzai
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Wow, reminds me of Sandy Hook: first we were told that the police report was going to take 6 (six!) months to complete. Then, the legislature voted to seal all the records, permanently.

Nothing to see here; move along.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 23:05 | 3736268 Richard Chesler
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If they can manage to get a clown like Obozo as POTUS, you better believe they can "accidentally" murder anyone they want.


Wed, 07/10/2013 - 00:20 | 3736470 DaveyJones
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Thermite, physics from mars, investigations that suck, retaliation for war stories... where have I heard this before?

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 00:45 | 3736507 Gordon_Gekko
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Wed, 07/10/2013 - 01:10 | 3736547 BobPaulson
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Long time no see GG.

The problem with an uneducated population is they don't understand or believe in science or analysis. Burn a jerry can of gas, you can't melt metal, hit a tree with a car and the engine doesn't fly through the back window, fart on WTC7 and it doesn't collapse into a neat pile of rubble. Whatever. Cognitive Dissonance is required to deal with the concept that your safe preconceived notions of being the good guys is bullshit, and that hurts too much. Change the channel and hope the neighbours disappear to the camps in the middle of the night first.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 04:42 | 3736742 Harlequin001
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What do you do when your own government is murdering its own kind?

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 07:26 | 3736835 jaap
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N.I.S.T. will have a look at it for our comfort.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 11:27 | 3737510 DaveyJones
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in a way...they did fart on tower 7 and every other soul that died for this fucking false cause.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 02:35 | 3736644 All Risk No Reward
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Off the top of my head:

1. Hastings attacks military - bizarro car crash.
2. DC Madam told Alex Jones she wouldn't commit suicide (it's on Youtube).  A few months later she "commits suicide" and the media trots some unknown schmuck saying she was depressed but doesn't trot out her own words saying would never commit suicide.
3. Gary Webb outed CIA drug dealing and "committed suicide" by shooting himself twice in the head.  All this after telling people he thought he was being monitored by unknown people.
4. Five of the group that "rescued" Jessica Lynch were dead in short order.  The rescue false narrative was created by Jerry Bruckheimer.  She didn't fight back and there was no battle to get her back.  All lies.  Five people who knew these were lies were died quickly - including one guy who was double tapped by a guy in black suit during a backyard BBQ in the States.  Lynch came out and publicly admitted that her rescure story was a hoax shortly thereafter.
5. Pat Tillman was one of the five mentioned in #4, above.  He was killed by friendly fire will he stared the friendlies in the eyes and yelled, "I'm Pat F*ing Tillman, why are you shooting at me?" over and over.  Pat was not happy with the war and rejected an offer to leave early... presumably with the requirement he keep his mouth shut.  He didn't agree and his mouth was kept shut another way.  Oh, there were no attackers ever observed the day Tillman was killed.
6. The reporter at Bloomberg who sued the Federal Reserve in order to find out where the money went was dead within a year.
7. The stock analyst who wouldn't shut up about the Gulf of Mexico oil spill stopped talking when he died during the time the media was covering the event.
8. The former military airplane piloit who wrote a book outing the false 911 narrative "committed suicide" and "killed his two children," although no neighbors heard any gunshots.
9. A couple who was about to come on Alex Jone's radio show the following Monday to out CPS bounties for children "committed suicide" with her husband the weekend before her radio appearance.
10. Breitbart died the day he was to release bad information on bankster stooge Obama.
11. Breitbart's coroner was dead two weeks after his Breitbart autopsy...  cyanide poisoning.
12. Abe Lincoln cut the banksters out with his greenbacks and he was killed.
13. "The bank, Mr. van Buren, is trying to kill me, but I will kill it." ~President Andrew Jackson
14. Madoff's brother "committed suicide" right after Bernie called the whole economy a Ponzi Scheme in an article.  JP Morgan apparently was the back end for the fraud and they don't want to get exposed.
15. The Enron insider who was going to jail...  "committed suicide" before he could talk in jail.
16. Oklahoma City police investigator Terrance Yeakey -
17. K9 Police Officer Don Browning told by FBI if he didn't stop his investigation that he and his wife might end up dead.
18. Kenneth Trentadue -
19. Vince Foster -
20 Dr. David Kelley -
21. The guy who videoed Julia Davis' house being raided by DHS was found dead a few weeks later.  That video proved the officer purjered themselves when they said they didn't take anything from the home.  
22. Brittany Murphy died before she could testify in Julia Davis' case against the Department of Homeland Security - and bring publicity to it.
23. Brittany Murphy's husband died a few months later.
24. Active anti Federal Reserve opponent Charles Lindbergh, Sr's grandson was kidnapped.
25. Active Federal Reserve opponent, Congressman Louis T. McFadden, was poisoned to death.
26. Ron Brown - his autopsy showed he had been shot in the head...  after a plane crash? 
27. MLK murdered on the one year anniversary of his anti-Vietnam speech.  Only one guy around him ducked when the gun shots rang out.  His photographer was an FBI informant.  Jesse Jackson has been a fraud ever since.
28. JFK was murdered after rejecting Operation Northwoods, the false flag plan that was later implemented multiple times just after Kennedy was murdered.  These incidents include the Gulf of Tonkin, The USS Liberty and Operation Gladio over in Europe.  BTW, LL Lemnitzer is the criminal who presented Kennedy with Northwoods and was demonted for it.  He moved on to head NATO and implement Operation Gladio false flag operations throughout Europe.

And that's just off the top of my head.

I'm sure it is all coincidence.

If you want more to research, you'll get a lot of options if you research "Arkancide."


Wed, 07/10/2013 - 07:02 | 3736808 Obese-Redneck
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Lemme guess, Chinese M.A. candidate and this is your thesis? You forgot Numya Numya II letting OBL's family fly away.

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 02:45 | 3740582 All Risk No Reward
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You took that data and concluded I support a Chinese dictatorship?

"What good fortune for governments that the people do not think."
- Adolf Hitler

Think critically.  Search Trivium Education and "Gene Odening podcasts"

Learn to learn.

Your freedom exists somewhere between stimulus and response - but only if you allow a gap between the two.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 09:28 | 3737091 DanDaley
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In Latin America you get "disappeared", while in the US, you get "suicided".

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 13:22 | 3738075 NickVegas
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It's death squad lite. Hmmm, the evidence is pretty clear we have active operating death squads in this country. They have assembled the pieces for a turn key totalitarian state, in this case,  a fascist turn key totalitarian state. I can't wait for the next op ed piece in the NYT explaining why the Constitution is really not really needed anymore, and our natural rights, codified, are slowly usurped and beaten down by those it was meant to restrain. Dissolve the Union and let's reform with the wisdom of our collective mistakes, but how?

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 21:30 | 3735986 i-dog
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Indeed. If my S600L ever hit a tree, it's the tree that gets wasted.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 02:52 | 3736666 Ignatius
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Palm trees resemble concrete pillars in one peculiar way... they're both like concrete pillars.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 21:49 | 3736048 Rick64
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Maybe he had office furniture inside the car. I heard that stuff burns so intensely it can bring a skyscraper down (WTC 7). 

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 22:27 | 3736144 Chupacabra-322
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It's a Criminal system, built by Crinimals for Criminals. The business of America used to be business. Now the businesses of Amerika are war, theft, mass murder, and police state crackdown on anyone who objects.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 23:12 | 3736300 jerry_theking_lawler
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uh, if this is the case, then wouldn't the chrysler 300 two blocks away from this accident another victim to this tragedy??

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 23:19 | 3736328 Clashfan
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Freddie, this is the kind of comment, too frequently yours, that really disappoints me. Are you stupid or just a shill?

Rob-me and the same host of Jewish neocons from the Bushmonkey gang wanted to start WWIII and attack Iran, and that's just for starters. He's been Bush 41's buddy for years. He could easily have been this bad or worse.

That's just stupid, sorry. Gotta call it when I see it.

What possible evidence or history lends support to such a claim?

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 01:28 | 3736570 All Risk No Reward
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Romney would do what he'd be Kennedied, right?

These punks have no power, that's why they are picked.

Obsession over the puppets is what the puppets are engineered to cause.

Obsess over the puppet masters.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 09:39 | 3737109 icanhasbailout
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LOL you still think the people who are elected to office are actually calling the shots. Naif!

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 20:16 | 3735730 The Thunder Child
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Fear is the mindkiller

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 05:03 | 3736750 Nobody For President
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A greenie for the Dune reference...

Fear is the little death...

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 20:19 | 3735735 tmosley
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No, shut up and go Galt.  Quit your job.  Pay what you "owe" in taxes.  Sign up for any and every form of welfare you can get.

If enough people do this, this insanity will end sooner instead of later.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 20:21 | 3735737 nmewn
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So the Cash for Clunkers program had ancillary effects, get the old beaters off the streets to allow for "enemies of the state" to be...better controlled.

Who couldn't have seen this one coming ;-)

(He says, driving around in his old beat up pick-em-up)

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 20:24 | 3735740 resurger
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Am such an ignorant fuck really! I didnt know that they can control cars from space!!

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 20:47 | 3735767 nmewn
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Never got off on the whole Onstar thingy...or the new "lower your insurance rates" by having this little doo-dad installed in your vehicle (Progressive Insurance) thingy.

But hey, thats just me.


One GM worker & one insurance salesman so far, interesting ;-)

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 20:57 | 3735867 Buckaroo Banzai
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How the fuck does that post get down votes? Anybody who buys a car with Onstar needs to have their head examined.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 21:03 | 3735900 nmewn
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I've aquired enemies, meaning, I've stood for something and offended them by standing alone in the process.

Isn't demon-o-cracy fun? ;-)

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 21:28 | 3735989 DavidPierre
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nmewn ...

A friend of the FBI, CIA, NSA, DIA, SEC, MSM, White House, NIST, and the 9/11 Commission.

Ignorance is his Strength.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 21:39 | 3736016 nmewn
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nmewn ...

A friend of the FBI, CIA, NSA, DIA, SEC, MSM, White House, NIST, and the 9/11 Commission.

So, you're letting it be known that you're as fucking nuts as I've always described you to be. Well done.

Any proof or just another generalized, unsupported slander?

You Truther-types seem to have taken a real interest in defaming me lately, I must be getting real close to something ;-)

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 22:14 | 3736107 Rick64
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 Even though we don't agree on many things, I can still appreciate an opposing opinion which might show me something I overlooked or misunderstood. Respectful debate and objectiveness. I don't think anyone will change another persons opinion by attacking them personally. 

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 22:33 | 3736162 nmewn
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I know we don't agree, we've made that clear to each other and I appreciate your understanding of what this actually is.

A personal attack on me.

Some people will stoop to anything, I'm glad to see you are not shows your character and integrity...which means more to me (and anyone with the same attributes) than goes a long way.

Element is another, we can agree to disagree and move on.

We need more of it around here.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 02:22 | 3736628 DCFusor
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Procedures to disable onstar are all over the 'net.  Maybe their heads would survive examination quite well - and they simply turn it off.  2 fuses in most cars, all you do is pull them.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 21:03 | 3735886 DavidPierre
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Wrong again... MORON!

Me and others who are fed-up with your bullshit on ZH.

You FAIL...

The 9-11 Litmus Test


Tue, 07/09/2013 - 21:31 | 3736001 nmewn
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And here's one now.

Because I don't subscribe to every half-baked conspiracy theory to come down the internet pike (from the Aurora shooter to Sandy Hook to the Boston Marathon Bombing to...whatevah the fuck) the new litmus test to be given to me by DP, BringinIt, Clashfan, i-dog...etal) is 911.

Everything that happens in the entire world revolves around, the litmus test, of 911.

Very well, asshole, who hijacked the jets? There were actual passenger jet casualties weren't there?

Or (as everyone has seen) were those not really passenger jets slamming into buildings, they were a televised image, a mirage (as one of your "Truther theories" goes). Or were they in fact real (another Truther theory) and they were flown in by Mossad suicide pilots? And of course, air to ground communications were impossible at the time...right? (another "theory" thrown on the trash heep).

We've got enough problems (the people) without dealing with more rabbit holes that lead to nowhere.

My personal opinon is bullshit like this is a distraction or has your personal vendetta with me devolved into my troll (BringinIt's opinion) that I am a CIA psy-op?

Feel the dementia DP, be the dementia ;-)

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 21:40 | 3736018 DavidPierre
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Got ya riled up a bit...MORON!?

Go on over to SmokeyQuinn's bestiality blog.

He would love your bullshit.


Tue, 07/09/2013 - 22:19 | 3736128 nmewn
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I've long held the opinion that you and Quinn work in tandem. I found it revealing that you can lay dormant on ZH until one of Quinns posts popped up.

But of course, thats just a theory of mine, as seen from your/his past actions.

Care to refute it?

The timing I mean, his posting here and you immediately commenting, how does that happen without you lurking or conspiring with him 24/7?

I mean, I actually work and have other shit to

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 00:36 | 3736488 Parisnights
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I don't post often, just enough to get a pithy remark in from time to time.  Brevity is the soul of wit kinda thing, but I think I'll get another log in  I 'll run by the moniker Moron Junker so the dimwits , anti semites, and all around dorks know whom is junking them and why

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 21:40 | 3736019 ACP
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A stalker is a badge of honor, no?

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 21:58 | 3736079 nmewn
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Yes it is ;-)

I would hope everyone realizes the topic of the post has been diverted and it wasn't by me.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 22:22 | 3736132 DavidPierre
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Yes... it was you ...

With your "Cash for Clunkers" 'butt-in-ski' post way up the thread.

How come you never post your bullshit witticisms except to disrupt?

Get in the cue down thread and stop being so rude.

Instead you whine like a little bitch.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 22:42 | 3736193 nmewn
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A clunker is controlled by the driver ONLY...dipshit.

It has no Onstar, no way of outside communication to the machine being driven by a person, no way to shut it down or speed it up or know where the "clunker is" on any given stretch of highway with a curve coming up in the road ahead via satellite.



Tue, 07/09/2013 - 23:23 | 3736350 Clashfan
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DP, he's a 911 truth denier. What do you expect?

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 01:51 | 3736587 All Risk No Reward
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Actually, the rabbit hole leads somewhere - even if we don't know exactly where it goes.

Just because we don't know the destination of the rabbit hole for sure, doesn't mean the rabbit hole doesn't exist.

BTW, I bet the rabbit hole leads right back the international banking cartel Overlords.  It makes sense.

As for 911 evidence, I find the following irrefutable that the bankster narrative as told by their puppet "government" is false:

What a Gravity-Driven Demolition Looks Like

Acceleration + Serendipity

NIST Finally Admits Freefall (after claiming it was impossible and never reconciling the contradiction!  It's all in the video!)

Part 1:

Part 2:

Part 3:

Also keep in mind that the same person did the following things:

1. “The technotronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values. Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files containing even the most personal information about the citizen. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities. ”

2. Created the Mujahadeen that was later named after the CIA database that contained the CIA's Middle Eastern contacts - al Qaeda (The Base).

And low and behold, the pretext for the surveillance state he predicted in 1970 was ushered in by the very same group he created...

Oh, don't worry, said the man who created the group that ushered in his criminal surveillance state, it's all random chance:

“History is much more the product of chaos than of conspiracy”

Who does this guy work for?  The Rockefeller crowd.

Banksters.  The same people who created Debt Money Tyranny to wage financial Art of War to conquer your *ss without society every figuring it out.

Weapons of Mass Debt

So the question isn't whether these criminal banksters are at war with us - they are and they are kicking our *sses and will banksrupt us and asset strip us - the question is whether these criminals would create/allow/help a 911 type event in order to create a pretext to usher their much needed surveillance state in to allow time to train law enforcement and the military in their tyranny before bankrupting us and asset stripping us.

It all fits.

Even if you don't see the pretty obvious bankster connection and physics contradictions of 9/11, you still have to deal with their Debt Money Tyranny Debt Star that they are using to financially neutron bomb our *sses.

If you resist what is 100% fact, that is Debt Money Tyranny, I'm pretty confident you are also fighting the same crow that engineered/orchestrated 911 to suit their agenda.

And don't be surprised when people tied to MI6 or the CIA create a pretext to usher in UN troops, either.

"Today American's would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful. This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government."
~Henry Kissinger (war criminal)

BTW, Kissinger was the guy that Bush wanted to appoint to head the 911 Commission.

Whatever you do, get all the facts before reaching a conclusion or else don't pretend you "know" something you can't possibly know without all the facts.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 02:29 | 3736641 DavidPierre
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+++ All Risk

All very believable, concise and well documented...

But way over nmewn's pointy head and minimum wage pay grade.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 13:33 | 3738127 NickVegas
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I've seen these posts in this exact same format all over the net, over and over. This, my friends, represents billions of dollars of black budget propaganda. Right here, on these forums, in this post, is the final product of our societies output. A highly scripted and iterated piece of propaganda. That's it, people, this is your piece of the pie delivered to you. Enjoy the fruits of our societies labor. I would suggest a Gin and Tonic with a lime as you savor the blood, sweat, and tears of a massive infrastructure project iterated to produce the highest forms of propaganda know to man. It smells like, victory.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 21:43 | 3736024 New_Meat
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Dang, DP, you didn't plagairize that post!  Congratulations!  For your homework assignment, describe the "ad hominum" method of argument and list its pros and cons.

- Ned

{but "we" are going to have to brush up a bit on "our" grammar. Don't cha' know!}

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 22:09 | 3736098 nmewn
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It is interesting, why the focus on poor lil ole nmewn and his humble opinion on the post at hand?

A dilemma for my antagonist(s) comes to the fore, continue in this vein (which has nothing to do with the post offered) or switch to a more non-confrontational tone...but still pointing away fom the original post at hand.

Decisions, decisions, will they be found out? ;-)

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 23:15 | 3736178 Bringin It
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Newmnuts - Let me help you out with that.  It's your problem when you have to always keep telling us what an unafraid tough guy you are vis a vis the new and evolving Gestapo, because - 

No. 1 - You are not a tough -guy.  In reality you are a big pussy afraid to go or paid not to go where 9/11 controlled demolition leads.  Stop pretending otherwise.

No. 2 - You stole, abuse and are besmirching that avatar.  You're trying to hi-jack a revolt symbol with your message.  A WB7 says re. hijacked symbols, that ain't gonna happen.

Address your internal contradictions and come back when you're cured.  Come back and tell us all about it.  Thanks.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 22:42 | 3736194 robobbob
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It may be coincidence, but on several alt sites recently, I have been noticing some vicious trolling personal attacks against long time or high profile commentators that completely trash whatever topic being discussed.


BTW, not believing the official gov 911 story does not mean you automatically have to buy into the latest and wildest fringey conspiracy. its only a litmus test to those trying to keep the focus on division instead of cohesion and unity.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 23:10 | 3736281 Bringin It
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Reboot robobob - you've got a logic error.  Check it out.

not believing the official gov 911 story does not mean you automatically have to buy into the latest and wildest fringey conspiracy.

But, Newmnuts does profess to believe the official .gov 911 story. 

Imo, noone automatically [has] to buy into the latest and wildest fringey conspiracy.

Do you have a point?

Look up Non sequitur.  Thanks

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 23:13 | 3736304's picture


Tue, 07/09/2013 - 23:13 | 3736307 BeanusCountus
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Hey Mewn. How can ya blame em? I have no idea what happened to this guy. Will wait to find out more till I decide. But just like you are a contrarian, so is everyone here. And frankly, given how people with anti-establishment knowledge seem to disappear from "accidents" on a regular basis, how can you be so sure they are wrong? History is clear. Lies, cover ups, smear campaigns and, yes, even murder are part of the play book. Like weapons of mass destruction, Libor a free market quote, Kennedy was shot from the rear, etc, etc. The details to date leave more than a few questions. We are left to sift through the bullshit and draw conclusions. So far, none of the official account makes much sense. Until it does, the speculation here is just as credible as the official version. We'll see.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 23:20 | 3736337 Bringin It
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beanuscountus - Go back and read nmewn's posts.  The point is - on 9/11 he is not a contrarian.  Appearently he's succeeded in blowing smoke up your ass.  How many others?

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 23:21 | 3736342 Clashfan
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Tue, 07/09/2013 - 23:37 | 3736383 BeanusCountus
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Wondered why I had to open windows after a fart. But it wasn't smoke. Anyway, have no idea what he posted on 9/11. But do I think US conspiracy? Sorry guys, doubt it. Our government isn't bright enough to put something like that together.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 00:58 | 3736524 DavidPierre
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"Our government isn't bright enough to put something like that together."

You believe that that Bin Laden, in Afghanistan, a half a world away, with a cell phone, a laptop and a couple of million dollars, checkmated the entire USSA air defense system, and then made WTC #7 demolish itself as no plane even came near it?

Shit MORON!... get a fucking clue.


Wed, 07/10/2013 - 02:07 | 3736614's picture

Such eloquence can hardly be doubted. Who needs reasoned argument when one possesses the "truth."

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 02:34 | 3736647 DavidPierre
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Hang in there CrockO'Shit.

Make a bigger fool of yourself with every post.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 03:39 | 3736699's picture

Because people who don't continually use words like shit and ass are just so silly. Serious people are rightly obsessed with bodily functions.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 04:27 | 3736735 Bringin It
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CAC Rather than worry about 'words like shit', do us a favor and work on the shit between your ears.  Thanks.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 22:17 | 3736120 Go Tribe
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We've been saving up for a new car. Now we' ll be saving for a well used one.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 23:20 | 3736338 Clashfan
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Odd thing for a 911 truth denier to contemplate, nmewn.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 05:05 | 3736751 Nobody For President
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My pickup is a 5 on the floor 1986, which has a few dings...went to the dump today to earn its keep.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 20:12 | 3735709 The Thunder Child
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They could have blown the charge hundreds of feet from the cars/engines final resting place. They needed a melting hot firebomb to destory any evidence, a regular bomb and hacked CPU leaves to much evidence.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 20:15 | 3735726 cougar_w
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Next up: Edward Snowden.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 22:25 | 3736140 otto skorzeny
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why would the US govt kill their own diversionary dupe? if snowjob was a threat he'd be fucking dead by now- like this hastings guy. snowden's line of bullshit ( like mossad-assange) is way too neat of a tall tale. sometime I wonder if Tyler D is not in on The Great Game

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 23:33 | 3736316's picture

Hastings has been around for years and they only just got him here on US soil. Snowden has only been on the radar for a couple months and is overseas. Your reasoning is flawed. Not to mention the fact that because you are not dead yourself it proves that you are a government disinformation agent by your own criteria.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 00:35 | 3736493 DaveyJones
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well said

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 04:16 | 3736728's picture

Thank you.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 22:58 | 3736242 Fred Hayek
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Butch Cassidy and the Snowden Kid

"Kid, next time I say something like 'Let's go to Bolivia', let'e GO to Bolivia!"

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 22:58 | 3736243 Fred Hayek
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Butch Cassidy and the Snowden Kid

"Kid, next time I say something like 'Let's go to Bolivia', let'e GO to Bolivia!"

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 20:24 | 3735742 pods
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So the engine was tossed out of the car when the car CENTERPUNCHED the tree?

From that vid it seems that it hit that tree head on.  It is a rear wheel drive car, so that means the transmission is right down the middle.

I could possibly see that if it was a transverse motor FWD car that hit off center, but a center punch, RWD?  Forget it.


Tue, 07/09/2013 - 20:50 | 3735810 The Thunder Child
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Car didn't centerpunch the tree, hit the front left quarterpanel.

My guess is they sprayed the gas tank, the transmission/engine mounts and underside of the passenger cab up the transmission channel with thermite some days prior. Hacked the CPU that night then blew the charge a couple hundred feet from the final resting spot at what they thought would be a fast enough speed. The resulting charge blew the gas tank and the mounts causing the resulting spin out, engine ejection and fireball. You can see there is nothing left of the floor panel underneath the driver, completely melted away...gas doesn't do that.


Tue, 07/09/2013 - 20:59 | 3735881 pods
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That is a better angle, thanks!

I have found that it is better to not try and determine what was done, merely to say that this puppy stinks, and make THEM prove that it was an accident.

They have all the information. 

Otherwise you can get a whackjob speaking about hologram planes and high energy weapons from space that will poison the well.

Guy was onto something, already took down 1 guy, and his car explodes in a fiery wreck.

Could be worse, Gary Webb shot himself in the head, twice.


Tue, 07/09/2013 - 21:07 | 3735915 The Thunder Child
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I agree to a point, but I have a good foundation in math, chemistry and physics. This is the most plausible scenario that I could formulate based on the video and the photographic evidence. They have all ready swept this under the rug, they don't have to prove shit to the peons and that is evident in the LAPD unwilling to release the wreck for analysis.

Put a story on the 6 oclock news and thats that...

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 21:19 | 3735961 pods
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Well I am a chemist, so I know what you are talking about. I am not speaking of your theories, only the ones that end up making yours crazy by association.

I looked at the backstory, the fact he was working on something new, and came to the conclusion he was killed.

Now it is up to THEM to prove otherwise.

To be honest, they would have to go a whole hell of a long way to disprove my view of them.

They are in power, want to keep power, and will do anything to make sure they do.  There are no rules for them to follow, only expediency and power.

One solution:

Avoid debt, for without the ability to deficit spend using my kids' borrowed future, it will crash.

I now tell everyone that will lend an ear why things are the way they are today.

And now more people are listening, instead of merely calling me crazy.


Tue, 07/09/2013 - 23:55 | 3736422 Spanky
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Been there, done that...

I am not speaking of your theories, only the ones that end up making yours crazy by association. -- pods

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 05:11 | 3736754 Nobody For President
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Thunder Child, you speak of evidence?

We are talkin' LAPD here, we don't need no steeken evidence...

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 07:56 | 3736879 Papasmurf
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The car was headed south and the engine was found 150 foot south of the crash.   Do you have info contrary to this?

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 20:19 | 3735734 resurger
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Now i know why they call it "Bleeding Edge Technology"

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 19:44 | 3735662 Normalcy Bias
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The greatest license plate I've ever seen personally was on a Pinto, and it read "KABOOM."

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 19:50 | 3735671 kliguy38
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this is complete nonsense and utter conspiracy ....a lone gunman shot him...PERIOD! Now back to Duck Dynasty

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 19:56 | 3735688 Rainman
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No...the asshole was TWD back to Duck Dynasty  

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 20:04 | 3735704 SHEEPFUKKER

How long till Snowden gets "Hastings-ed"? 

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 20:13 | 3735724 resurger
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They are making a customized drone for him.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 21:01 | 3735891 Temporalist
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People you have seen the future but now. witness. the. PAST!

Heat Seeking Bullet | Runaway

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 21:32 | 3736004 Renewable Life
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Snowden was a CIA agent and NSA agent, before going rogue, he knows from first hand experience, what "THEY" would do to him, so at least he is better prepared to survive it! Hastings was a Journalist and was much less prepared to deal with what the American federal government has become! 

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 22:05 | 3736089 mofreedom
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thermite AND take-over of the car, give me a cunt.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 23:51 | 3736415 Jake88
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LOL good advice dude. Corvairs are to be avoided as well.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 20:39 | 3735779 Lost Word
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Conspiracy stories about British spies and remote control hacked Mercedes involved in Princess Diana's 1997 Paris car crash strike against tunnel pillar post, a very similar "accident", except no explosion fire in Paris.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 22:06 | 3736094 mofreedom
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diana was a cunt.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 22:57 | 3736237 mofreedom
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what did this bleeding blank do for humanity that we weren't already programmed to do, unless you're a european who doesn't have any money left after taxes to care for his and his neighbors...what happened to teaching freedon and self rule and capitalism.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 23:20 | 3736334 mofreedom
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you know how much i miss this country, the GREAT USA, more than you ever know that it even existed, and we let these types of people tug at our heart strings AND TELL US WHAT WE SHOULD BELIEVE.  you know God, else you know nothing...

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 23:53 | 3736417 Jake88
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and no flying engine. you'd think Mercedes would bolt the engines in tight.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 07:26 | 3736834 Oquities
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anybody know how to totally disable OnStar?  i contacted GM about disconnecting the access to my car and was treated like a leper.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 21:08 | 3735921 Stoploss
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The first official drone strike on american soil.  Two missiles.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 22:12 | 3736104 Go Tribe
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My God, they are murdering devils who deserve only to be brought to ruthless justice.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 19:39 | 3735648 knukles
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Coincidences.  Like all the other ones, ad infinitum...



Tue, 07/09/2013 - 20:03 | 3735669 Captain Benny
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Yep.  Coincidences like the SEAL team members who raided a building in Afghanistan and took a man they claim to be Bin Laden to a ship to be dumped overboard without a single photo or security camera of the incident.  Then the bulk of those who were there crash in a single helicopter downing in remote Afghanistan. and all die.


Coincidences like being shot in the head from nearly point blank by the FBI after a bombing in Boston.  The FBI has invented more stories to explain what happend than you have fingers on your hands.  They say he had a sword in one story. Another they say he had a knife.  Another a gun.  And the list goes on and on.... but the best part about the whole thing is that the FBI dude involved in the case fell from a helicopter in a "training accident" and died... can't hear his story anymore....


Or the fact the Sandy Hook was a staged incident where they cannot release a single security camera clip, bullet remnants, dry wall remnants, photographs of the crime scene, who owned the mystery car in front of the school (Hint: It wasn't the Lanzas!), who the man in cammo clothing was in the woods that was arrested and released, or any other details about the incident.  Hell the CONFIRMED actor told multiple conflicting stories about what happend that day in front of his house when he went to "comfort" the kids.  Police casually strolling around the crime scene with no blood or children being ushered out of the school attempted to be saved. 


Never mind the fact that three MASSIVE buildings fell in New York from only two jet liners.  The BBC was so on top of the news converage that day that they were able to confirm that the third building collapsed over 15 minutes before it actually did.  In fact, the live video broadcast showed the building still standing in the background!   It fell at free fall speed even though it has ZERO structural damage.


Nor the fact that in a field in PA, there was a small trench which an entire airliner somehow crashed into and disappeared.  Almost like a black hole that trench was...

Or how at the Pentagon, there was no debris that matched up with the actual plane that supposedly crashed.  The hole on the side of the Pentagon had zero impact marks from engines or wings, even though the engines were designed to break off on impact.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 20:12 | 3735718 ITrustMyGut
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it...almost comical..the sheer velocity of IN YOUR FACE gov terrorism against 'merikans. a scandal a day practically... but it s not comical its fucking blood boiling


good post gathering just a few

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 23:21 | 3736343's picture

That's the thing about psychosis. It's very in your face for the sufferer. And of course seeing EVERYTHING as a conspiracy just puts a smokescreen around the real conspiracies. The spooks just gotta love "Truthers," they provide such excellent cover.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 23:59 | 3736431 Jake88
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Pull your head out of your ass. The government was in up to their eyeballs on 911.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 00:20 | 3736462's picture

"Truthers" will tell you things like "The Manhattan skyline was replaced with a hologram on 9/11" or "No one  was killed in Newtown, the place is inhabited by thousands of crisis actors" and then say that if you ask for evidence it proves you work for Mossad. You see, "truthers" believe that using phrases such as "pull your head out of your ass" is all the evidence anyone should ever require.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 01:09 | 3736545 DavidPierre
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Go to

and yes...

"pull your head out of your ass"

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 01:58 | 3736597's picture

Does talking to a crazy guy mean I'm crazy too or just bored? Just for kicks where do you stand on chemtrails and Sandy Hook?

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 02:37 | 3736650 DavidPierre
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You are boring.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 04:11 | 3736708's picture

How did they get you to clam up on chemtrails and Sandy Hook? And is there any way they can get you to clam up altogether? That would be actionable information.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 21:29 | 3735992 Oldrepublic
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posted this new report from Pakistan today

2013-0754.pdf Pakistan Bin Laden Raid Dossier
Tue, 07/09/2013 - 23:43 | 3736290 wee-weed up
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Captain Benny  said:

"Then the bulk of those who were there (Bin Laden raid) crash in a single helicopter downing in remote Afghanistan. and all die."

Hmmmm... I'd like to see a link to corroborate that.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 00:11 | 3736452 Captain Benny
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Google is your friend... Search "seal team 6 crash dead"


Trolling is for govt employees.... 

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 10:25 | 3737241 viahj
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did you even reaad the article you linked to?....SEAL Teams are large in personel, the entire TEAM was not involved in the bin Laden raid.

"Three months after bin Laden’s death, members of the SEAL Team 6 force -- though apparently not the same ones who carried out the bin Laden raid -- were on board the CH-47 Chinook transport helicopter, along with its Army National Guard aircrew, several support personnel and seven Afghan commandos. In all, 38 people died that night after the chopper was shot down by a Taliban-owned rocket-propelled grenade –or RPG – over the Wardak Province on Aug. 6, 2011. "

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 23:56 | 3736425 Jake88
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Holy shit. Another FBI flies out of a helicopter. You'd think those dudes would start wearing parachutes.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 20:03 | 3735701 Mentaliusanything
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Co incidentaly ... how do you identify a " Burnt beyond all recognition"body from the skin finger prints. The fingers are the first to go.Dental records are de riguer.

Mercs have a black box that notes all things mechanical from accererator position to steering angle to yaw. It controls all safety systems from seat belt pretension , door locking/ unlocking, fuel shut off and battery isolation. Fly by wire is the conection to all of it (input) and all inputs are stored in a RAM that can be down loaded. It is found in the passengers foot well behind a double firewall behind the motor. It is in a steel well and is indestructable.

But the fire was in the back and the fuel tank is well protected from rear end collision

If the time line fits ask Edward Snowdon and Wiki leaks.

Bet you the car has been altered but hasitly recified in some Police holding yard ( cctv)

He was murdered and the cover up looks like swiss cheese.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 21:20 | 3735964 Buckaroo Banzai
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Mercs may or may not have a black box (aka Event Data Recorder), but according to this, there is no commercially available software to pull the data out.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 02:44 | 3736637 Mentaliusanything
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They have one and it is readable, that is how they fault find. Mercedes Benz test all car to find out safe limits (parameters) This 6 inch square box reads all inputs and when parameters are approached it takes actions preprgrammed(cut throttle, pretension seat belt(s), brake spinning wheels, lock doors, prearm air bag(s). If a collision occurs a whole host of shutdown procedures are activated, fuel cut off, unlock doors when stationary/rest, release seat belt pretension and whithin 0.5 seconds after this occurs Battery isolation. Thats why is buried in the subfloor behind the double fire wall, protected heavily on three sides. Everything leading up to parameter breach is readable.

This fire wall on the drivers side was " breached", how I don't know but that part of the passenger shell can take a Peterbuilt hit and not deform and That fire wall is good for 15 minutes but that was no ordinary fire. Ive hit Six beef cattle at night, in a road dip. Didn't get a foot off the throttle and hit them at 65mph. Wife in the front three lads in the back. These are heavy animals weighing about the size of a small car( but soft). glass cuts and cow shit ensued but All doors opened.  damage was radiator bonnet(which could be opened) two front quarter panels and three dinted doors. 

They charge a premium for a reason. This Journalist had help to die

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 19:42 | 3735658 All Out Of Bubblegum
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> how did the police rule it an accident and no foul play involved when they didn't even contact Mercedes to assist in the investigation?

Probably because most large American police departments are actually sub-departments of Federal intel groups.

The National Security State wanted Hastings dead with little hassle. LAPD complied.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 19:50 | 3735672 NWstruggler
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I'm pretty sure they had the "no foul play line" before they even finished cleaning up the wreckage. 

They are so impressive. 

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 00:14 | 3736457 Captain Benny
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They actually had it before a positive ID on the body and toxicology reports and cause of death reports were made.....   LAPD doesn't need science to conclude investigations.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 20:19 | 3735736 FeralSerf
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LAPD followed orders just like they did when RFK was murdered.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 23:34 | 3736376 Clashfan
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Feral, ask Darryl Gates about that one. You know, Robert's cousin?

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 20:26 | 3735745 Freddie
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There is a video documentary on youtube that was done by a Scottish or English guy about RFK's murder.  The hotel ballroom was a spook-a-thon filled with al-CIA-da contractors and ops.  Sirhan Sirhan had no clue what happened.  A woman saw a woman and man lead a robot Sirhan in through a fire escape or stairwell.  The woman was bullied to say she never saw the man and the woman.   All happening in LA where the LAPD was very friendly with intel types.

The real killer was probably a guy dressed in a cop or security guard uniform.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 20:52 | 3735841 Lost Word
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Yes, there was a security guard, Thane Eugene Cesar , standing directly behind RFK, who has been named and accused by conspiracy historians as the actual asssassin, point blank revolver shot behind the ear of RFK.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 02:03 | 3736608 The Navigator
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AND, as in Dealy Plaza, there was proof of many more bullets fired than the "Offical" findings reported.

I don't know why we still allow the .gov to investigate these murders when all we get (fed) is bullshit, time after time after time.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 23:35 | 3736379 Clashfan
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Freddie, read the coroner's report. Take a long look at Thane Eugene Caesar. Learn about Sirhan's handlers (polka dots). Pretty simple stuff. Sirhan stands in front, firing blanks, probably, while TEG shoots RFK in the back of the head.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 19:45 | 3735663 johngaltfla
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1. Mercedes have had self-sealing gas tanks for over 15 years now. It is almost impossible to cause one to explode unless of course someone puts explosives near the tank.


2. The lack of skid marks indicates that the loss of control was sudden and the driver was already impaired/dead.


3. The odds of a cyber style attack are fairly low; however the odds of some plastic explosives are fairly strong.


4. Watch for zero coverage of this by the MSM moving forward, including Rolling Stone magazine. Only the alternative media will speak and if anyone divulges the "truth" well, they will be Breitbarted also.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 20:56 | 3735857 Lost Word
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Lack of skid marks indicates that the computer controlled Anti-Lock Brakes were disabled by hacked computer.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 21:02 | 3735895 johngaltfla
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Not neccisarily. If the initial explosion killed him, which a pro would guarantee it did, then he would have been unable to engage the brakes.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 07:16 | 3736818 Kiwi Pete
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How to completely take over a car by hacking into the CD player - locks, ignition, brakes, accelerator.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 20:16 | 3735731 FeralSerf
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Why has somebody junked you?

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 20:36 | 3735770 HelluvaEngineer
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Godspeed Hastings.  I pray for your soul but I suspect you are already there.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 20:50 | 3735832 ISEEIT
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I'm only surprised that so many people continue to act surprised. They make this crap obvious intentionally. Really think about so many events beginning with 9/11. How much of this trip down the rabbithole has actually been committed without clear, even amateurish (and they sure as shit aren't that) 'fingerprints' all over it?

Have you actually spent the time looking into a certain B.C? That piece of crap screams fake.

They want you to know.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 21:00 | 3735868 swani
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When I hear about mysterious deaths like this one, I can't help but be reminded of some research that I did I a while back while working on a movie script about dead scientists. It seems that there was a project outsourced to a British company called Marconi, paid for by the Department of Defence, where engineers developed the remote control of vehicles and aircraft. It turns out that after this project was completed, and in a very short time period of about 18 months, 22 or 24 of these scientist ended up dead under very mysterious circumstances. This all happened before the Oklahoma City bombing and before September 11th. Needless to say, if a person was going to be a conspiracy theorist about these events, they could cite the fact that the technology to control aircraft, and all motor vehicles for that matter, from a remote location, has been around for quite some time.    

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 21:59 | 3736082 Buck Johnson
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Because this was a hit on him and I think I know what he may have been working on.  Remember another whistle blower (Russ Tice) came out about the CIA and NSA listening to congressmen and women and other govt. officials using this information to blackmail.  He came out in the media but the media didn't pick up (or wher told not to) and run with it.  I think maybe Hastings had more information or evidence on this and he had to be gotten rid of.

That boston brakes thing is something I never heard of, very frightening.  In fact if they want to they could do this while you are driving along close to a group of children and force the car to speed up and crash into the children killing them.  No matter what you say or do it will look like your fault and people will say you either was drunk or on drugs and did it or you did it on purpose, either way your done in the eyes of the public and nothing that comes out of your mouth will ever be believed.

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 23:03 | 3736262 Richardk888
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He must have spontaneously combusted

Tue, 07/09/2013 - 20:17 | 3735639 DavidPierre
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Michael Hastings was that rarest of breeds: a mainstream reporter who wasn’t afraid to rail against the system, kick back against the establishment, and bite the hand that feeds him. On the morning of June 18, 2013, he died in a fiery car crash.

Now details are emerging that he was on the verge of breaking an important new story about the CIA, and believed he was being investigated by the FBI.

Even a former counter-terrorism czar, Richard Clarke, is admitting Hastings’ car may have been cyber-hijacked.

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