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About Those Gold Shorts....

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One wonders: at what price does the squeeze of the collateral-scarce (as per today's ongoing negative GOFO) yellow metal begin, now that Bernanke has made it clear (supposedly) that the new gameplan is just more of the same old?

Source: CFTC CEI Gold Non-Commercial Short Contracts/Combined, CMXOGNCS

 

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Wed, 07/10/2013 - 18:42 | 3739321 Motorhead
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Gold, bitchez!  (Despite Jim Sinclair and the other pumpers.)

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 18:46 | 3739341 fonestar
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The longs in the paper markets are the real idiots.  If they had any brains they would have dumped incementally long ago, buying each dip towards $0 and converting to bullion....

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 18:54 | 3739372 Divided States ...
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Wow look at the moves in commodities, fx, oil, right after his q and a. That asshole bernanke might have caused somebody to get a margin call and its liquidation might take down the whole system. Good job bernank, i think u just set off the first piece of a stack of doMiNos.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 19:03 | 3739390 Stuart
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SQUEEEEEZZZE, SQUEEEZZE HAARD!  Last short out of the pool drowns,...well, ..actually all but the first short out of the pool drown.   Prisoner's dilemma for sure.   Going to be fun to watch.   I love the smell of burnt shorts in the morning!

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 19:14 | 3739463 midtowng
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We might be watching gold shoot up for the next couple days. We might be looking at 1,400 before the squeeze stops.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 19:35 | 3739554 flacon
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What's The Price of Gold? - Game Show - Free One Ounce Gold Coin If Anyone Knows

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8veFm0dnQOA

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 19:42 | 3739582 bonderøven-farm ass
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Them damned short people......:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NvgLkuEtkA

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 19:52 | 3739625 knukles
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Never mind the paper shorts... it's the physical shorts, the failure to delivers is where it a happen' in's my gut on this.

 

Allo, Bundesbank!  Quick everybody, get yours while there's still somebody elses' in the vaults!

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 20:12 | 3739690 gmrpeabody
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In a day or two, after the DUST settles..., it might be wise to hedge a little towards the next shove down. These guys don't give up so easily, and dearly want your PM shares.

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 00:38 | 3740465 fourchan
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i'll let em have a couple ounces at 5000$

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 22:59 | 3740234 Two Towers AU AG
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Short? who you calling Short  :P :)

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 21:06 | 3739860 MrBoompi
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How much des it cost to mine and refine gold and silver? When the supply dries up, how much longer can the paper price control the markets? My guess is not very long.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 23:20 | 3740304 CSA
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You can say that again.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 21:06 | 3739861 MrBoompi
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How much des it cost to mine and refine gold and silver? When the supply dries up, how much longer can the paper price control the markets? My guess is not very long.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 22:34 | 3740136 Rattling Bones
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We are running that very test right now.

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 00:10 | 3740409 Money Squid
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it only costs $5 dollars to dig it out of the ground.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 20:22 | 3739637 TwoShortPlanks
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.

William Kaye: http://www.kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/Broadcast/Entries/2013/7/10_W...

Previous post: http://twoshortplanksunplugged.blogspot.com.au/2013/06/chinas-goldreserv...

My quote on reason: "The real reason Gold was systematically removed from the financial system (Globally) was to place it even deeper into the financial system (LOL). A Gold Standard is akin to Gold acting like the mortar between the financial bricks of the Global Economic Building however, removing the Gold simply meant that Gold then flowed into private vaults of the same entities who owned the Gold within Central Bank vaults in the first place. They merely relocated the financial strength."
http://twoshortplanksunplugged.blogspot.com.au/2013/05/gold-nwo-elitesth...

The average person doesn't own the vast majority of the Gold nor any of the Fiat system, nor will he/she. The best you can do is to own a small portion of Gold for (of) the next system.

You are far better off completely forgetting the paper Gold market; it's just a tool to control price and strip punters, nothing more. You can disconnect from everything now and you won't miss a thing, because everything now is false and/or misleading. Fundamentals are now concrete inevitabilities.

Soon the 'Custodians' will need to sacrifice their Fiat for a transfer. The West and East must trade places for the next (Chinese) Fiat Empire to emerge (every Empire needs its slaves, modern day slavery is simply ultra low wage producer nations). JPM, GS, HSBC and most of the TBTF will migrate with the physical Gold itself.

This Gold rout will end only when the Gold transfer cavitates and the Gold mines are secured (Gov or Bank). This isn't too far away.

PS. On a personal note; fuck am I getting hacked...iPhone, PCs etc.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 22:50 | 3740202 buyingsterling
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My nine year old made some small clay models of food that were very nice, and they were displayed at the local library. She got them back yesterday and brought them in for me to look at as I was sitting at my computer. I asked if she intended to do more, and she said she didn't have any more clay, that grandma had bought it years ago overseas. I told her we'd have to buy some more for her.

The next day I was searching Ebay for something totally unrelated. At the bottom of the search page, there were recommendations from international sellers - just five, and all five were modeling clay produced overseas.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 23:37 | 3740345 CSA
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Same thing happened to me a few months back.  A co-worker was talking about some fancy juicer I had never heard of.  Later that day, blam... my phone ads start showing that juicer.

 

I did some research online, this is apparently old news that they are using our mics to illegally capture what we say and target us.

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 00:06 | 3740397 A Nanny Moose
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Teh G00glez r reading my minds

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 00:11 | 3740404 Money Squid
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Google and other spy centers track some 20 types of electronic info from your computer. Typing, mouse movements, which hand you use, how fast you type, how your mouse moves (roll overs) icons and how long you pause over an icon before clicking. Also your wireless router and computer monitor emit lots of radiation that generates feedback signals your computer can be used to transmit back to provide more info on you. It may be someone else in your family used the same computer, or a different computer in the same household, to lookd for clay or items related to working with clay, but you as the bread winner, bill payer will get the ads as you are more likely to be the decider of what gets purchased. Everything you do with your computer, everything, is tracked and stored and used to build an ever more detailed profile about you and what you are likely to do.

Leave the computer microphone unplugged until you need it. Put tape over the camera till you need it. Otherwise it is collecting data on you.

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 02:56 | 3740607 Bringin It
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Money Squid - excellent description.

I just want to add one thing. 

to build an ever more detailed profile about you

I completely agree with this, but it's only part of the story. 

Digitized observations of everyone feed aggregation engines.  This amounts to feedback, very valuable feedback on how the manipulation is going for example.  This "window" into the various aspect of the sheeples and peoples minds improves their ability to maintain control and keep the ponzi-.gov going.

Example;

Politico: "Hey let's grab the guns.  It's time." or  Politico: "Hey let's bomb Iran.  It's time."

Techno-wonk-crystal-ball: "No will robbinson.  Danger!  Danger!"

Alternatively -

Politico: "Hey let's open the borders.  It's time." - Politico: "Hey let's do some taper talk.  It's time."

Techno-wonk-crystal-ball: "M-ya, Ok."

And so with this new ability to aggregate the zeitgeist in a way never possible before.  They're able to adjust the leash w/o letting go.

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 06:31 | 3740700 Fred C Dobbs
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And don't use google.  Try startpage.com

 

 

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 01:24 | 3740521 mt paul
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was utubing around looking at buffets in las vegas

later was looking at room prices in vegas

the flamingo offered me room for 4 nights

with 2 free buffet passes [good any where]...

168.$ total cost ..pre christmas week

fits my itinerary for east coast holidays..

can't beat the price...

the spy system works..

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 19:13 | 3739454 midtowng
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Those gold shorts are having their balls squeezed today.

I might shed a tear for them if I hadn't loaded up on gold last week. Hah!

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 19:34 | 3739547 jjsilver
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Gold, bitchez!  (Despite Jim Sinclair and the other pumpers.)

What did Jim Sinclair say that would put him in the pumper camp, just the opposite

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 02:42 | 3740598 Rubicon
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"The bottoms in".... about ten times.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 21:11 | 3739875 Al Gorerhythm
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Man, what I'd give to see a spot price chart overlaid on that one. Tyler....... please. It would confirm or put to rest my theory of collusion between the major players on the Crimex.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 18:43 | 3739322 Temporalist
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GOLD IS CRASHING AS WE SPEAK!  Oh wait it's going up...that's unusual.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 18:44 | 3739332 markettime
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What is this green on my kitco app? I am not used to seeing it. 

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 18:47 | 3739344 Temporalist
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I thought I needed to download new video drivers.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 19:50 | 3739617 kito
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double digits green no less!!! its like hooking up with sisters!!!!! youre normally happy to score with just one, and then bam!! in walks the second!!!

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 19:02 | 3739400 russwinter
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Arsonist Ben lights the match, release the cracken. 

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 19:39 | 3739568 Nitrocharged
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That was funny :-)

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 18:43 | 3739324 Charles Nelson ...
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Ha... Look out below assholes, you're about to get your faces ripped off.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 18:47 | 3739325 JustObserving
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About Those Gold Shorts....


Fuck them.  Gold should cross $1300 today. And silver $20.

USA has debt and unfunded liabilities of $141.7 trillion and they rise at over $8 trillion a year.  Bernanke can never stop printing.  

 

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 18:48 | 3739352 Herd Redirectio...
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You're telling me that they can't continue to deal with the unfunded liabilities with accounting gimmicks forever?  OH MY GOD  *runs off to vomit*

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 20:14 | 3739693 BeanusCountus
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Boy, have you got it straight. Few people understand what those unfounded liabilities actually mean. First thing is, they include future growth in both receipts investment returns and claims. So there might even be too much optism in that. Second, these unfunded amounts slowly move to ACTUAL liabilities that will bear an interest cost barring a rise in tax revenues to pay them. Every bonehead on tv keeps talking about debt to GDP as some type of meaningful metric. They should be paying attention instead to debt to revenue (aka tax receipts) to see the problem. I have yet to see one single projection that can prevent a total collapse of our budget in the next 30 years, when about 50 trillion of the total 141 trillion of those unfunded liabilities hit the balance sheet, that can be sold to the American public without extreme social unrest. They will never get it done without cutting benefits huge or taxing people to death. Only solution: that would be the deval of currency. And that, you gold haters, is why you should own some.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 18:44 | 3739331 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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Guess Bernanke's line.

The richness of the farce never ceases to amaze.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 18:45 | 3739335 Cdad
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Errrrrr....there's something about that chart...that is...well, I cannot quite put my finger on it.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 18:45 | 3739336 Dr. Engali
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I tried to get some gold shorts before and couldn't find any so I just settled for teeth.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 20:00 | 3739649 knukles
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Getchuself onea dem gold shirts from New Dehli, dude.
Good lookin' guy like you witch yo' one big eye, sheeeit, Doc, there be women all obah de plaz just a waitin to be crawlin' on you, my man.
Damn....

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 18:46 | 3739337 thewayitis
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   ....................Crush the Bastards ..........

 

 

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 20:34 | 3739761 MeelionDollerBogus
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"Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of gold shorts!"

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 18:49 | 3739354 Bay of Pigs
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Tradition!

Cue the deer Tyler...

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 18:52 | 3739367 Temporalist
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Mmmmm venison...

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 18:55 | 3739377 seek
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To quote Alan Shepard:

"Roger, liftoff, and the clock has started"

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 20:16 | 3739703 reTARD
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You mean "we're" going to the moon again? This time for "real?"

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 11:32 | 3739756 MeelionDollerBogus
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take your protein pills and put your helmet on....

commencing countdown engines on...

Is it Sandy Vagina week? -2 on David Bowie?

Fuck.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 18:55 | 3739378 Quinvarius
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They were certain that everyone on the same side of the boat was a fantastic idea this time.  They just needed more people.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 19:00 | 3739395 Quinvarius
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Man they are getting a-raped at the moment.  I guess they didn't expect the trap to spring in the middle of the night.  Almost to 1290 now.

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 11:33 | 3739741 MeelionDollerBogus
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Of course not. After a decade of overnight longs in profit in gold with intra-day (North America) being less so (and not at all if strictly intra-day, as shown many times on zh, prime interest, capital account), who'd a thunk it would happen this time.

For the -1 sandy vagina: http://www.skoptionstrading.com/storage/short%20intraday%20long%20overni...

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 19:05 | 3739408 Everybodys All ...
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Japan is up next and then next in a month or so it will be back to the UK and Europe and then by Jackson hole it will be the US turn again to debase their currency. This will go on for years.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 19:04 | 3739409 GrinandBearit
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I have a feeling gold will come back down and the stock market will be red by tomorrow close.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 19:09 | 3739440 A82EBA
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Ah hell we've come this far, why not..but the last 3 hours feels great!

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 20:16 | 3739702 garypaul
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At this point nothing would surprise me, even that. 

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 19:04 | 3739410 zenon
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It's becoming more and more obvious that the Fed's verbal vomit is a handy tool for setting up the markets for nice profitable trades for the squid and the morgue.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 19:04 | 3739411 The_Small_Lebowski
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when the 'markets' are safely into new high territory, were gonna see the metals get beat up some more i fear

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 20:14 | 3739685 gmrpeabody
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Good chance of it...

Do what needs to be done.

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 01:24 | 3740520 StychoKiller
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"Execute order 66!"

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 19:04 | 3739413 MxBonanza
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Price of paper gold is moving higher fast. A glitch of The Matrix most likely...

I hope those shorts get screwed today.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 19:05 | 3739417 yabyum
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A little hockey stick action going on now. 

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 19:15 | 3739465 A82EBA
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love me some green 1-min candles, 8 in a row

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 20:27 | 3739476 MeelionDollerBogus
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who's heading for the penalty box on high-sticking?

Someone with a red arrow is a little margin'ed I thinks.

When you hit the red arrow, did you remember to adjust your stops too?

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 19:05 | 3739421 chump666
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Bernanke just killed the DXY trade down over 1.3%, close to capitulate sell at 2%, Asia will buy dips.  Massive short squeeze on the AUD and volatility.  Stocks...who cares.  Gold short squeeze, but could be bull trap.  UST market is still on for Sept tapering.

Love that oil price.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 20:20 | 3739712 garypaul
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Everything you say is believable, except that UST action might not be related to any tapering, it could be a total loss of control...

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 20:22 | 3739717 RockyRacoon
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Looks like there is one bad apple in the currency basket:

USD | EUR | JPY | GBP | CAD | CHF | AUD | NZD

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 19:06 | 3739424 Clowns on Acid
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Do you think that the Chinese had announced a slowdown, knowing that woiuld impact gold ands US equities.

This would of course "force" limp dick Bernanke to effectively backtrack on his previous "we might taper soon ". The Chines had alraedy bought below 1200/oz.

The Chinese know that they have the Obama / Bernanke / US banks/ US Media over a barrel. They just tap their asses anytime they want a market move.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 19:11 | 3739446 dobermangang
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Don't know anything about the gold shorts.  But the shorts of Smith and Wesson (SWHC) are not feeling too well tonight. 

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/smith-wesson-increases-tender-offer-212855...

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 19:15 | 3739468 MeelionDollerBogus
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Up is the new down, bitchez :D

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 19:34 | 3739552 BurningBetty
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Can't wait for China to release their numbers on their June gold purchase!

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 19:43 | 3739589 robertocarlos
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Is this going to be like VW shares?

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 20:25 | 3739729 Al Huxley
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VW * 10.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 19:56 | 3739635 Bastiat
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I predict this rise in $ price of gold will compound with the firesale generated shortages to generate accelerated buying in the physical. 

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 20:13 | 3739692 Al Huxley
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I predict this is gonna hurt a little for all those stupid fucks who thought it was a good idea to chase the short side of this trade.  Gee, I wonder what a $30 price bump does to a leveraged short position established at 1220?  It will be interesting to see if Shanghai takes charge again tonight.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 20:25 | 3739730 q99x2
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You go your route to skimming off the spoils of QE. I'm going to siphon off through the educational path. Might have to invest some student loan money into gold but for right now I'm pretty busy getting an education about all the freebees that the FEDs are handing out as they bring this country to its knees.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 20:57 | 3739832 pocomotion
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Gold is still in a bull market.  Just no one likes it right now. 

If the shorts lose everything they own, on their trade, then let God be their new-found wealth.  I pray for thee.

On-ward and up-ward, to $1900 we go.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 22:14 | 3740055 nestle
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GOLD BITCHEZ!!!!!!

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 22:16 | 3740060 nestle
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I up voted myself bitchez!!!!!!!!!

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 23:17 | 3740292 Raphael
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If the gold manipulation is factual, why all the hub bub about Ben B new statement and the increase on gold prices today?

Or is this just a "normal" reaction that will die shortly?

Raphael

 

 

 

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 23:59 | 3740386 Roger Knights
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Here's an SA article today y'all will like:

http://seekingalpha.com/article/1542652-what-gofo-is-and-why-it-s-now-ve...

Here's an earlier July 2 article by the author that's even better:

Gold: Last Friday Was Likely The Bottom

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 03:53 | 3740631 Rodders75
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This gives a pretty good account of GOFO goings-on. Not quite as simple as ZH is making out, and not such good news for goldbugs. 

http://ftalphaville.ft.com/2013/07/10/1561322/the-hand-of-gofo-strikes-again/

Summary:

1) The opportunity cost associated with lending cash against gold is rising because rates are rising. For as long as Libor is stuck down this can only be expressed in a higher lease rate, which itself can only be pushed higher by means of a negative GOFO rate, because lease rates = Libor minus GOFO.

2) The cash-for-gold window is firmly closed since cash lenders would theoretically have to pay a punitive negative rate if they wanted to invest their cash in gold collateral. If you need cash and have gold, chances are you will be forced to liquidate instead, unless you can negotiate off market terms.

3) High lease rates are forcing an unwind in previously established cash-for-gold positions, as cash lenders pull money out of the gold market and take it elsewhere. To unwind the position, they’re needing to buyback their shorts and sell their forward hedges, which is backwardating the curve.

4) Despite higher yields, a scarcity of USTs is once again encouraging fails-to-deliver despite the existence of a penalty rate. This is creating a new floor on rates in repo markets (the penalty rate):

The gold forward market is consequently once again being forced to price in a negative cost of money on the forward curve, to compensate for artificially supported rates elsewhere, a function of rising real yields.

5) It’s Libor that should be much lower, if not negative.

Holding gold (or any commodity) rather than cash is now an opportunity cost.

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 05:33 | 3740661 Quinvarius
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Dude, that is some ridiculous posturing.

1.  No.

2. Obviously no.

3. You don't even know what a lease rate is.  And you are still wrong.

4. a ruined Treasury market means buy gold.

5.  No one is ever going to pay you cash to borrow cash.  That is just stupid.  LIBOR is a lending rate for cash.  Only a central bank would be that stupid and that would be reflected in the rates they pay on excess deposits at the Central Bank, not in LIBOR. 

Don't take advice from MSM journalists.

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