'Chiraq' Update: Illinois Overturns Ban On Concealed Weapons

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"Following a weekend of horrific violence in Chicago in which at least 70 people were shot and 12 killed, this was the wrong move for public safety in Illinois," Democratic Governor Jim Quinn noted as lawmakers overturned his veto to allow Illinois to become the last state in the US to allow residents to carry concealed handguns. As the BBC reports, the governor warned that the new law will allow people to carry guns in pubs and bars (and carry virtual arsenals on their persons), we suspect, if Chi-raq (the slang for the anarchic gang-ridden areas of Chicago) is any example, that this is already occurring en masse in a wide population of the state. Gun rights proponents, meanwhile, celebrated, "this is a historic, significant day for law-abiding gun owners, they finally get to exercise their Second Amendment rights."

Via BBC,

Illinois has become the last state in the US to allow residents to carry concealed handguns, after lawmakers overrode the governor's veto.

 

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Mr Quinn vigorously opposed a concealed carry law, but the Supreme Court refused to hear an appeal.

 

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On Tuesday, legislators in the House and Senate easily mustered a two-thirds majority needed to override Mr Quinn's veto, barely beating the court deadline.

 

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"Following a weekend of horrific violence in Chicago in which at least 70 people were shot and 12 killed, this was the wrong move for public safety in Illinois," Mr Quinn said in a statement after the vote.

 

He said legislators had "surrendered" to the National Rifle Association, a powerful gun rights lobby funded in part by weapons manufacturers.

He warned the new law would allow people to carry guns in pubs and bars, and allow people to carry virtual arsenals on their persons.

Gun rights proponents, meanwhile, celebrated.

"This is a historic, significant day for law-abiding gun owners,'' Representative Brandon Harris, a southern Illinois Democrat said, according to the Associated Press.

Referring to the clause in the US constitution that refers to gun ownership, he said, "They finally get to exercise their Second Amendment rights."

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Wed, 07/10/2013 - 21:36 | 3739937 Chupacabra-322
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Lock & load Chicagoens. Just watch how the crime rate drops & blows all the anti gun grabbers arguments of how guns create crime out of the water.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 21:42 | 3739960 maxmad
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Heres the kicker  If you dont have a FOID card already, you're Fuked!

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 21:51 | 3739986 Almost Solvent
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But - guns don't kill people, people kill people.

 

Once we outlaw people, we'll all be safe!

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 21:57 | 3740006 Bazza McKenzie
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Obama's working on that.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 22:48 | 3740129 Manthong
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Within 12 months, the gun death rate in the city will drop by half…

Shove that up your butt,  Rahm..

Er.. Rahm that up your butt, Barak.

oo.. oo .. and up your quim,  Quinn...  :-D

Whatever..

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 22:48 | 3740198 whotookmyalias
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If they are a shall issue state, they now have it better than many other states including CA and NY.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 23:13 | 3740280 Manthong
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The new law says that Illinois state police "shall issue" a permit to carry concealed guns to any applicant who passes a background check, takes 16 hours of required firearms training and meets other conditions. The bill would ban guns in some public places such as bars, schools and hospitals

http://news.yahoo.com/illinois-house-votes-allow-carrying-concealed-guns-182937243.html

..there is hope left for this state and nation

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 23:22 | 3740308 KnightTakesKing
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16 hours of training? That's a lot of training.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 23:35 | 3740343 tsx500
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and don't forget the huge $$ fees for applying and taking the class, etc

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 00:23 | 3740436 WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
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Chiraq (and NY and a few others) could burn to the ground and I would not have a f*ck left to give. Just sayin'. Net benefit to society.

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 00:36 | 3740454 fourchan
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outlaw blacks...im just saying.

and ban muslims from air travel.

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 00:47 | 3740477 WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
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Unrealistic, but sadly probably true.

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 07:26 | 3740754 JohnnyBriefcase
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Chicongo is a superior name.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 23:25 | 3740314 Antifaschistische
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Manthong....all other things being equal I would say you're exactly right.   But "all other things" are never equal.

The gun grabbers CAN'T let this happen and you can guarantee something will be manipulated to make sure this doesn't happen.  Either the stats will be manipulated upward, or Obama has the NSA sniping street side drug dealers just to keep the gun crime stats up.   Nothing surprises me any more.

 

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 23:57 | 3740360 Manthong
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understand ..  kind of like LIBOR.. LBE... and the rest of that stuff..

nothing would surprise me anymoar either... but this is a big deal here in the obamanation of the land of Lincoln.  Everything has a price .. 16 hours and a few hundred bucks is a small price to pay for liberty, security and a few degrees moar of protection in an increasingly diverse and unpredictable world. .and for whatever it is worth.. I have sincere prayers that God would not deign  I would ever have to be in a position to even think about shooting at anything other than a target, varmint, or game … just my 2c    ..  have faith.

..and one way ot the other, soon,  the news will be more quiet about the stats in Chi-town.

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 01:38 | 3740540 Doubleguns
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Easy to shoot at targets and all,  but when your wife or kid is threatened you can still stand there idle, your choice. I have practiced and intend to shoot. The brudens are heavy but the regrets are heavier. 

 

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 01:42 | 3740545 Doubleguns
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Oops, missed the part that you pray it never happens. I agree and pray for both of us to never go therer, but like most I will if called upon with no remorse.

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 10:07 | 3741248 whirling tword ...
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I used to think that I would defend my property with deadly force.  ( You're able to in Texas if it's after dark )....  Unless all the wheels come off, I'm not sure I would do so anymore after watching the Zimmerman trial.

I may put one or two into the knee caps... or brandish but, I'm pretty sure I would not use deadly force over property with intent to kill.  ( unless the wheels came off or they were inside my home )

I live outside city limits and, I have a lot of equipment outside and on the property.... not sure it would be worth it if I found myself in that situation...

If they're in the house, they're bought and payed for, however.

I hope and pray that never happens....  too much hurt on both sides of that equasion.

Always have and always will be a, "gun nut" though.  Grew up in the shooting sports and still love it.... load my own ( when components are available ) and hope this shortage ends soon....   

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 21:30 | 3743619 Promethus
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Las Vegas rule. What happens on private property stays on private property.Put the body in a wood chipper. Eat the Skittles. Let the fambly file a missing persons report.

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 07:41 | 3740777 j0nx
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Chicago's problems are solved by recalling rahm. It's quite obvious to everyone even the MSM that dude has no idea wtf he is doing or how to run a city.

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 09:24 | 3741125 1100-TACTICAL-12
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Aint gonna happen it's mostly gang banger anyway they don't give a shit if it's legal or not. It will ultimately help some honest people..

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 22:00 | 3740015 pods
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Can we please stop this "law-abiding" moniker?

Fucken Orwellian.

I can't count how many laws I broke today, mainly because I have no fucking clue as to how many there are, or how I broke them.

Yet we will all rejoice that our benevolent masters have now allowed us to do something that we told them, SPECIFICALLY, that they may not interfere with.

pods

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 22:04 | 3740029 nmewn
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"Yet we will all rejoice that our benevolent masters have now allowed us to do something that we told them, SPECIFICALLY, that they may not interfere with."

+ nine more.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 22:35 | 3740140 francis_sawyer
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Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, & Firearms

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There to protect your right to get drunk, light up, & go shootin'...

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 00:36 | 3740458 WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot
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Word. You three are free to speak for me on ZH if I'm absent for a few days. 

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 01:07 | 3740501 U4 eee aaa
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You expecting a rendition?

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 01:58 | 3740561 Manic by Proxy
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Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms: definitely should be the name of convenience store and not a government agency. It says so on a T-shirt.

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 02:54 | 3740608 Manthong
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LMAO   :-D

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 07:11 | 3740733 kill switch
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When you think about it what the fuck do we need with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. Another 100,000.00 useless bureaucrats. Man we are fucked 6,9,12,3.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 22:23 | 3740086 xtop23
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Great post.

All part of the plan. If you put into place so many laws, as to make it impossible to follow them all, you enable "the apparatus" to commit rear entry on your person any time they get the urge to do so.

 

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 00:07 | 3740399 yomama
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Come on, if anything this administration has shown us that the laws are just a guideline, nothing 'hard and fast'....hard and fast, Obama, bent-over...um

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 00:10 | 3740407 SoberOne
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*knocks it out the park*

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 01:07 | 3740502 aerojet
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Seriously, I've never been a big fan of laws since the whole legal system is just another angle on you and when you need something enforced against some asshole, you can't get it done.  Also, there's the people like the NSA and the CIA, the executors of the law who break the law day in and day out with no ramifications because some special court or circumstantial loophole allows them to have clean hands.  It's still unethical, though, you see?  And that's what really matters is how you live with yourself after you pilot a drone and launch a Hellfire at some civilian house which may or may not house "bad people."  

So no, until the law can be made to make sense, I'm just avoiding the enforcers quite honestly.

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 07:14 | 3740737 kill switch
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pods,

Thinking the same thing +100

So nice we have our second amendment back, now brush off your knees..ya fucking sheep.

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 10:12 | 3741266 whirling tword ...
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We are at a point where the state has made so many laws that it makes criminals out of every man.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 21:46 | 3739971 nmewn
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It will be interesting to see how punk criminals react to the prospect that granny is packing and now doesn't have to look over her shoulder for criminals AND COPS. 

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 22:15 | 3740058 Alpo for Granny
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There is a lot more than just gold eagles in granny's brassiere... Buh-lee-dat!

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 00:00 | 3740391 zjxn06
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NRA should get with arms manufacturers to offer discounted guns for ghetto grannies. Get ghetto grannies a gun. GGGG.

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 10:14 | 3741277 Meat Hammer
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"Ahhhhhh shiiiiiiiit" - Little Pookie, Ray Ray, and Leroy (aka Tech 9 Killa) upon hearing that there will be some pissed off armed crackers now in their midst.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 22:16 | 3740061 Greenie
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The Trayvons in Chi-town ain't gonna like this. Go short hoodies.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 22:19 | 3740073 garypaul
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WTF????  Trayvon didn't have a gun idiot!

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 23:07 | 3740259 mofreedom
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and if he did he wouldn't know how to use it properly...probably would have thought it was some type of crack pipe, cool.

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 01:09 | 3740504 aerojet
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What about the cellphone picture of the S&W Sigma?  Planted evidence?  Even if he didn't have a gun with him, he was still a violent little thug who was looking for trouble.

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 10:06 | 3741245 They trynna cat...
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No sh*t "Tray" didn't have a gun. But if all the Trayvons had to assume that every potential victim of their animal violence was carrying, they wouldn't be so quick to punch old ladies in the face for $5.

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 10:35 | 3741287 Meat Hammer
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It warms the cockles of my heart to think of these thugs worried about people fighting back.

In other news, job applications at Walmart by former gang bangers just went full retard.

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 23:38 | 3740346 tsx500
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...and Skittles

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 22:21 | 3740081 holdbuysell
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Empower the people to take care of themselves...and they will.

But that mere concept goes against the 'must control everything and everyone' grain of sociopathic elites.

Thu, 07/11/2013 - 07:16 | 3740740 kill switch
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AND COPS

Fucking BINGO!!!!!

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 21:48 | 3739976 Alpo for Granny
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Pretty badass gif showing the progression from no issue to may issue to shall issuee to my personal favorite..unrestricted.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Rtc2.gif

Wed, 07/10/2013 - 22:27 | 3740097 XitSam
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In stupid Texas, you can't open carry a pistol in a holster! And yet they pretend to be conservative and part of the West. 

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