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Stasi Vs The NSA: Compare And Contrast

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The German President, Joachim Gauck, concluded in a recent interview, that the NSA was not to be compared with the Stasi, because, [paraphrasing] "it is not like it was with the Stasi, where there exist big filing cabinets in which all our conversations are written down." No, indeed, nothing like that. As OpenDataCity notes, at the NSA, conversation contents are neither written down nor filed - but digitally recorded, saved and can be searched and found within seconds.

In contrast to the Stasi, the NSA can count on new technologies and can therefore collect information in gigantic quantities.

 

To get the picture, OpenDataCity compared the data volume in this little app:


Link: Stasi versus NSA. Made by OpenDataCity (CC-BY 3.0)

 

According to a report by the NPR, the data center of the NSA in Utah will be capable of saving 5 Zettabytes (5 billion Terabyte). Assuming that a filing cabinet with 60 files (30.000 pages of paper) uses up 0,4 m², which would correspond to 120 MB of data, the printed out Utah data center would use up 17 million square kilometers.

 

Thereby the NSA can capture 1 billion times more data than the Stasi!

 

Source: OpenDataCity

 

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Fri, 07/12/2013 - 07:07 | 3744369 therearetoomany...
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Even more like the stasi - RT this AM reported the corporate 'price list' to the US government for 'bugs' on people.   50K per wire tap.  

Verizon, AT&T and on and on...the government marches together with corporations.  

Can you say FACISM? 

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 09:38 | 3744703 lakecity55
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Long spy device stocks.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 07:18 | 3744384 rsnoble
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Only reason Stasi isn't like NSA is because it's older.  All these deuchbag countries are paranoid from fucking it's people.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 07:35 | 3744405 Mr. Hudson
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Don't compare POS to "douche". Douche serves a purpose. It cleans and washes away bacteria and unwanted sperm. I like douche. We need to be like douche, and do some cleaning up.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 08:16 | 3744463 Burticus
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The totalitarian surveillance police state in the United State_, in comparison, makes the Gestapo, Stasi and KGB look seem like schoolyard bullies stealing kids' lunch money.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 08:31 | 3744492 writingsonthewall
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Want to fight the NSA but on't know how to?

Massive mis-information campaign - simply add this 'disclaimer' to every e-mail you send.

They won't know what hit them.

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Fri, 07/12/2013 - 09:35 | 3744697 lakecity55
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Would it not be easier to blow up the power lines to the place and have an inside guy blow the generators?

Just sayin.

Gregory Peck in

The Servers of Navarone

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 08:54 | 3744557 22winmag
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Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 09:02 | 3744596 rwe2late
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 It's not just the total amount of data, but its organization and retrieval possibilities using that data.

Files can be searched, "patterns" can be found, links to organizations/people/even ideologies can be made and/or inferred.

At any time during one's life:

Read the "wrong" books (remember the library record snooping?), associate with the "wrong" people (neighbors or relatives), belong to the "wrong" organization, or an organization "linked" to "wrong" whatever. Say or write something to the wrong person or have them say or write something wrong to you ... and you are "linked" by some computer program.

The laws are already in place so that providing "aid" directly or indirectly to the designated enemies of the state is a crime.

Add indefinite detention, the possibility of "harsh interrogation", the forced false accusations or "naming of names".

And of course, none of this will have the slightest "chilling" effect on free speech or on our already anemic free press journalism.

With our freedoms so "protected", we will no longer have to worry about losing them.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 09:12 | 3744627 Lmo Mutton
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funsa

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 09:32 | 3744689 lakecity55
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hahaha, there is NO comparison! We can outspy those Germans!

(uh, wait....)

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:00 | 3744797 wagthetails
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i'm no anarchist, but once a gov is installed, it continually grows until it implodes, and then the process starts over again.  well...it was a good 200 years! 

 

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:09 | 3744832 lakecity55
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"When I throw this switch, Mr Bond, the entire planet's communications will belong to me."

"I'll stop you, Blowfeldt."

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:35 | 3744991 Winston Smith 2009
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Both the Stasi and the Gesatpo have amazed those investigating their actual numbers and methods who have learned that the majority of their spying info came from civilians who willingly informed on their neighbors, often without even being asked to do so. The Gestapo had a very small presence even in large cities.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:48 | 3745047 Elio Costa
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The MUST know all the global masturbation habits

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:21 | 3745535 PT
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Oh yeah, how's the market in second hand computers out there?  Is it just me being paranoid again or do the majority of old computers 'disappear' these days?  My latest reason for this concern actually had little to do with spying.  It was just that I hate Windows 8 so much that I was considering sticking with Windows XP for the rest of my life.

I see SFA ads for old computers in newspapers, but maybe it's just that all the ads have gone binary.  Anyone got any details?

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 13:40 | 3745901 DosZap
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I see SFA ads for old computers in newspapers, but maybe it's just that all the ads have gone binary. Anyone got any details?

 

Yes, and not nefarious for a change.Win XP ,had it's issues(but at least YOU could work on it, and see everything on it), BUT it IMHO is the BEST that Microsoft ever put out(Win95-98 were decent also).I wanted to try the same thing, when my XP went teats up, I could only find a very FEW new ones, and they were 30%+ more expensive than Win 7 new, same or less GB's, and Hard Drive space.The demand for them was out of sight.

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