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To Celebrate Snowden's Russian Asylum Request, Here Is Ronald Reagan's "Evil Empire" Speech

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It is surprising how things change diametrically in 30 short years...

From the Ronald Reagan address to the National Association of Evangelicals, March 8, 1983.

It was C.S. Lewis who, in his unforgettable “Screwtape Letters,” wrote: “The greatest evil is not done now…in those sordid ‘dens of crime’ that Dickens loved to paint. It is…not even done in concentration camps and labor camps. In those we see its final result, but it is conceived and ordered; moved, seconded, carried and minuted in clear, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice.

 

Well, because these “quiet men” do not “raise their voices,” because they sometimes speak in soothing tones of brotherhood and peace, because, like other dictators before them, they’re always making “their final territorial demand,” some would have us accept them at their word and accommodate ourselves to their aggressive impulses. But if history teaches anything, it teaches that simpleminded appeasement or wishful thinking about our adversaries is folly. It means the betrayal of our past, the squandering of our freedom.

 

So, I urge you to speak out against those who would place the United States in a position of military and moral inferiority... I urge you to beware the temptation of pride–the temptation of blithely declaring yourselves above it all and label both sides equally at fault, to ignore the facts of history and the aggressive impulses of an evil empire, to simply call the arms race a giant misunderstanding and thereby remove yourself from the struggle between right and wrong and good and evil.

 

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I believe that communism is another sad, bizarre chapter in human history whose last–last pages even now are being written. I believe this because the source of our strength in the quest for human freedom is not material, but spiritual. And because it knows no limitation, it must terrify and ultimately triumph over those who would enslave their fellow man.

 

Yes, change your world. One of our founding fathers, Thomas Paine, said, “We have it within our power to begin the world over again.” We can do it, doing together what no one church could do by itself.

Isn't it ironic that 30 years later, those who refuse to "remove themselves from the struggle between right and wrong, between good and evil" and those "who speak out against those who would place the United States in a position of military and moral inferiority" are forced to seek asylum in... the Evil Empire?

 

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Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:58 | 3745105 francis_sawyer
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"It is surprising how things change diametrically in 20 short years..."

~~~

It's 2003?... Where did I park my DeLorean?

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:58 | 3745112 i-dog
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Whocouldanode?

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:03 | 3745134 prains
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Say it ain't soooo Ronnie, where'd all the money go Ronnie???

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:07 | 3745148 BaBaBouy
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Reegan Is Dead, And A New EVIL EMPIRE Is Fast Rising...

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:15 | 3745210 prains
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Yes but his spawn live on, Dickey and Rummey

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:35 | 3745295 BLOTTO
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It's comin back around again! (nothing new under the sun -blots) This is for the people of the sun!

It's comin back around again! Uh It's comin back around again!

This is for the people of the sun! It's comin back around again! Uh

People of the Sun -RATM (Evil Empire)

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The title "Evil Empire" is taken from what Rage Against The Machine see as Ronald Reagan's slander of the Soviet Union in the eighties, which the band feels could just as easily apply to the United States. Rage is currently finishing up a European tour but they'll be back on our evil U.S. soil for a tour in late July. –Zack de la Rocha (excerpt from Interview)

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YES! Time to throw in the Rage cd on the way home tonight...

 

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 13:50 | 3745931 James_Cole
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It is surprising how things change diametrically in 30 short years...

 

By 'change' I take it you mean the propaganda has become less effective? Funny listening to Reagan, best propagandist the US ever had! 

It's incredible how much of his presidency defines current day - from the war on terror to Greenspan to unions being the major leaches of society, it's all the same shit. 

A little less support for genocide these days though. Progress!

 

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:27 | 3745586 WarriorClass
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No, it's the same evil bankster cartel that has always been there.  It's just making more progress now.

http://americandictators.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-zimmerman-trial-and-wa...

 

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:43 | 3745652 ceilidh_trail
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Spent by a democrat congress...

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:03 | 3745138 Oh regional Indian
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Puppet socks sock puppet 1980sumthing...

Puppet still socking sock puppit 2013...

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:03 | 3745129 spastic_colon
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i think we should forget about snowden, he is ex-CIA and the pictures that we see of him are no longer valid as he is recovering from plastic surgery, he is not where he says he is nor where putin or anyone says.  He is now a figure of the office of disinformation and his mention is only used to throw everyone off his scent.  He has likely made an agreement with the US to allow for his name to be constantly besmearched so we all think they are doing something about his rebelliousness.  IMO of course.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:34 | 3745287 Ghordius
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to be frank I care more about the effects of Snowden's action than the origin. people are still debating about the origin of 9/11, aren't they?

yet in both cases you have a "situation", then a catalyst triggers a completely different situation, proving that the original situation was unstable, and "something was likely or bound to happen" (including, a bit more snarkily, someone was waiting for an excuse to go to war)

the Snowden Affair has triggered a lot of responses, and the Snowden Effect is going to be felt for years to come

to this one observation: lots of historians debate on the American Revolution and how the new technology of newsprinting was pivotal to it

we are in a planetary societal upheaval because we are still digesting the new technologies around the internet, and every day new millions join in the fray

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:35 | 3745312 NotApplicable
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Nice observation.

It's never the action, but the reaction.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 13:30 | 3745868 ATM
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9-11 ---------> Patriot Act

Snowden -----------> Here it comes the Snitch Act. http://rt.com/usa/obama-insider-threat-leaks-905/

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 00:03 | 3747534 Element
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All these exploratory new levels of deeper and deeper scumbag Obomba keeps displaying to the world ... how low can he go ...

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:38 | 3745626 spastic_colon
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yes...i guess that was part of my point, the MSM is parading the head of the snake around as usual when the focus should be the other 90%.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:53 | 3745694 Sandmann
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Ghordius; it was Gutenberg that gave Luther's 19 Theses such potency. It may well be newsprinting that made the American Rebellion function, but the Forces of Control in England had Wycliffe and Tyndale either murdered or harried to prevent The Bible being accessible in English. The Geneva Bible led to an Authorised Bible to remove Calvin's republicanism.

John Wilkes was jailed for reporting what happened in Parliament.  The Stationers' Company was used to control which printers could have a licence. Coffee Houses were shut down by King Charles II in 1675 when he feared revolutionary dissent. Theatres and Plays were censored between 1737 and 1968 by the Lord Chamberlain's Office which had to approve scripts. English Libel Laws are used to control free speech

In EVERY age the Forces of Control have attempted to suppress Free Thought and Communication. Just because there is an LCD Screen and a CPU does not mean The STATE has lost the habit.

Ed Snowden has simply exposed everyone to The Truth of the Situation in a veritable hall of mirrors. Our Era is just like all the others, the Men behind The Screen want to CONTROL

 

 

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:03 | 3745136 All Out Of Bubblegum
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Parking a DeLorean = that's where it broke down.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:51 | 3745398 MayIMommaDogFac...
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This is definitely where I parked it, I just can't remember exactly what year it was...

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 13:31 | 3745870 ATM
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But it's still there! And no RUST!!!

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:58 | 3745114 Ribeye
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"The ironing is delicious"

- HJS

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:00 | 3745121 The Proletariat
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The Cold War was only a warmup for the military/industrial complex....once the masters stopped profitting from [cough, cough] communism.  Hence forth, the War on Terror....very profitable and Sheople approved

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:05 | 3745152 i-dog
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They actually contemplated a 'War On Aliens', until some bright spark came up with the idea of the War on Terror. (source: Fletcher Prouty)

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:23 | 3745256 sumo
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I'm waiting for the Battle against Serious Fright and Alarm, followed by the Skirmish against Concern.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:36 | 3745317 NotApplicable
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Rest assured, someday, somewhere, someone will try it in an effort to usher in global governance.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 13:49 | 3745932 monad
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The war on terror was Hitler's idea. I think in the 80s Netenyahu proposed using it.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:16 | 3745216 Shell Game
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All under the umbrella of Global Peace.  One World Government = Whirled Peas.  Oh how peaceful it will be when the world's serfs are in shackles.....

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:01 | 3745122 LetThemEatRand
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And ironically, it has changed for the worse largely because of him.  He was the beginning of the idea that the solution for our "problems" was to endlessly fund the MIC, increase public debt, and hand more power/money to the top model that we call the new normal.  And remember Iran Contra?  He had no problem with black ops in the name of some ambiguous notion of freedom of the wealthy to plunder the earth.  Thanks, Ron.   

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:06 | 3745154 prains
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And now the bill is in and looks to have only cost approx. $ 12.4 Trillion thanks to a fat bloated corrupt MIC. Please Pay The Server

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:07 | 3745168 Dr. Engali
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I would argue it began with this guy:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:16 | 3745182 prains
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nothing ever "begins" that is way too linear. More like "transcends" to another level of Defcon. I didn't junk you doc

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:15 | 3745205 MFLTucson
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Started with Bush Senior and now look what we have.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:24 | 3745250 Dr. Engali
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Bullshit. The Bushes are plenty corrupt but they are just a link in the chain of corruption. The moment we laid the foundation for a permanent military is the moment we secured our downfall.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:47 | 3745377 LetThemEatRand
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So true.  And I just love all of the people who love to quote Ronnie's "I'm from the government and I'm here to help" line as evidence that he was a small government guy, when his entire philosophy was to grow the shit out of the part of the government which is the most directly one of force (the MIC).  He grew the government by leaps and bounds.  It just goes to show, the vast majority of people will listen to what someone says and throw their support behind him even when his actions are completely opposite.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:09 | 3745482 Bay of Pigs
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+1 for stating the facts. Reagan's legacy is huge deficits, debt and a massive global military and spy ring.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 14:27 | 3746041 Cathartes Aura
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absolutely agree.

good to see the RayGun cheerleading finally updated here.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 13:25 | 3745851 Wave-Tech
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The moment the US strayed from strict adherence to the constitution was indeed the beginning-of-the-end.

Particularly abandoning that which was the only item in the constitution specified as NECESSARY to the security of a free state.

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Fri, 07/12/2013 - 16:40 | 3746374 Cheese Potpourri
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I like your style, Joe.  Count me in.  I had an idea for a website that speaks to the issues and hosts a national forum for people to ask questions and discuss and come to a consensus.  Just brainstorming here, but if it could be set up so people could verify their identity and then pledge their vote to certain Constitutional Amendments via ballot, I think it could shake things up.  Combine that with Third Party potential and we might have something.  Again, I am just brainstorming, but I am with you.  We need to speak up and act in unison.  Sic Semper Tyrannis.

 

"An army of principles will penetrate where an army of soldiers cannot; it will succeed where diplomatic management would fall: it is neither the Rhine, the Channel, nor the ocean that can arrest its progress: it will march on the horizon of the world, and it will conquer."

Thomas Paine

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:16 | 3745186 Kirk2NCC1701
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Indeed.  In the 1979 primary, the GOP Establishment actually wanted Bush.  But, when Reagan -- the great communicator -- surged ahead and indicated that he too embodied the values and goals of the Elite, they let him stay ahead.  With one condition:  that he pick Bush as his VP.

The rest you know.  Including, I presume, the fact that it was old man Bush made the real decisions behind the scenes.  BTW, as an ex-President, Bush still gets his copy of Obama's PDBs (Presidential Daily Briefing) to this day -- and so do all other ex-Presidents (Carter, Clinton, Bush Jr).  This business of "deregulation" of various industries led to letting Wall St loose, and resulted the boom of the 90s.  That's why Bush and his GOP pals were so "pissed" that another 'great communicator' (Bill Clinton) managed to upset Bush in '92, and got the benefit & glory of that 90s Wall St boom.  Given that Bill kept us out of a major war during his time, the 90s Boom resulted in some nice revenue for the Gov.  But this was not to last...

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:18 | 3745227 oddjob
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Bill Clinton worked for Bush Sr. when he was head of the CIA.

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/clinton_spied_students.htm

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:28 | 3745272 Kirk2NCC1701
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Holy crap!  Who'da thunk?  I disagree with one part: "that they have no conviction, no ideology, no guiding purpose".

I think that they have conviction:  'The Will To Power'.  They also have a guiding purpose:  Globalism.  This aligns perfectly with the NWO Elite.  The Clintons are willing to make any Faustian bargain, as long as they get to have the power and the glory of office.  Sound familiar?  Like maybe 2008, 2012?  ;-)

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:07 | 3745477 Lord Blankcheck
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He work for him importing cocaine into Arkansas in the 80s.The ex-CIA head is pure evil.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 13:46 | 3745923 cynicalskeptic
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'PRA' - People's Republic of Arkansas - a bananna republic under Clinton where the CIA trained CONTRAS, flew drugs, weapons and cash in and out of Mena and Nella with stolen planes, manufactured M-16 receivers without serial numbers to be assembled into complete weapons using 'donated' NG parts - all for 10% off the top to the Arkansas Development Authority.....     Bill was so helpful the CIA ran him for President.

http://books.google.com/books/about/Compromised.html?id=whEPAAAAYAAJ

 

EVERY President since Carter has gotten the office with CIA vetting - they were quite po's when Carter tried to clean house.  9/11 completed the coup - all the powers needed to keep the politicians in line and sheep under control. don't think Obama is any different - look into his mother's family and missing spots in his resume......   

 


Ever see 'The Good Shepherd'? scene at theend where the new CIA head says he's of to a meeting on Congressional Oversight.... he laughs  'as if we'll ever let them see what we're doing'.....

 

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:19 | 3745240 McMolotov
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Eisenhower warned about this shit because it was already going on when he was president, which means it started a long time ago.

As usual, follow the money and you tend to land somewhere around 1913...

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:29 | 3745268 sumo
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General Smedley Butler foiled a coup. Another general might have gone right along.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:00 | 3745125 Mercury
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Hear, hear

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:00 | 3745127 ZeroFreedom
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Well we have become that Evil Empire. How things change.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:07 | 3745165 francis_sawyer
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Become?... Let's see ~ in the past century we've:

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- Allowed a private central bank to flood the world with debt which we call currency

- False Flagged our way into 2 world wars, a 10 year stint in Southeast Asia, & neverending war on 'terror'

- Nuked Japan... TWICE

- Killed a President

- Killed 'countless' other dictators & Presidents [who we installed as puppets in the first place]

- We spy on our own people... People who don't like it have an amazing track record of 'suicide' [by way of two bullets to the back of the head]...

Other than that, we're pretty cool...

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:12 | 3745195 prains
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-death toll on brown people no longer countable as only the NSA computer has the juice to keep track

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:32 | 3745284 Kirk2NCC1701
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Don't worry.  At this rate of White Assimilation into the global gene pool, soon we will all be "tanned" in the NAFTA region.

We will truly be able to say: "Ich bin auch Braun".  ;-)

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:01 | 3745384 francis_sawyer
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Well... All my life I've basically been fucked...

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- In the 60's, the blacks blamed me for slavery [which was all my fault, of course]...

- In the 70's, the women blamed me for being a chauvinist pig [though I was just a kid], & them not getting paid as much [even though I wasn't in the labor pool]...

- Then, in the 80's on, they blamed me for being a misogynist [when I was spending my whole paychecks buying them dinners & cocktails]...

- In the 90's... The gays blamed me for being being 'homophobic'...

- All along, the jews have blamed me for being 'anti-semitic'...

- In the naughts [& on], the Gen Xers & Yers blame me for being a greedy 'boomer'...

- Now ~ my own government thinks I'm a terrorist...

~~~

I'm NEVER going to heaven [because, evidently, I'M PURE FUCKING EVIL]... Either that ~ Or I hope I die real fast & get re-incarnated as Sammy Davis Jr. ASAP...

 

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 14:09 | 3745975 Sandmann
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It's called  "The White Man's Burden"  - read Kipling

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 14:30 | 3746055 JimBowie1958
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Today it's called the 'Middle Class Burden' and it rests on everyone of all genders and ethnicities who are damned fools for working and paying for everyone else's free shit.

I'm gonna quit working and start collecting my Obamafones!

/s

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 14:38 | 3746081 Cathartes Aura
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oh dear, that's a mighty cross to bear francis, my sympathy.

perhaps you might reconsider identifying with white amrkn male demographic en masse, and find a niche label that eludes some people's ire.

it's rather hard to evade the facts of amrkns bred to entitlements of more of the worlds resources, more privilege, freedom, etc. since the 1950's, whilst waging war on other'd nationstates who don't look like them.

it's always been banker's wars for resources, and some amrkns have benefited richly.

of course, many haven't. . .maybe see where you land.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 15:11 | 3746192 francis_sawyer
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Actually ~ it's not a "cross to bear" at all... [because what I just said was in jest]... But, as a double edged sword, it also explains why I have exactly ZERO sympathy for the 'cause du jour'... I believe I express this DAILY on Zero Hedge... So basically ~ fuck you... & fuck all the 'bankers' you rode in on... I never asked 'America' to give me a life... In fact ~ I reject all that it is & represents... Sometimes ~ Here on ZH... I even go as far as to try & burrow down to the 'CAUSE' of how all this bullshit got to be [which does not appear, to me, to be a part of what this country was founded upon]... When I do ~ & in doing, publish comments talking about:

- asymmetries

- banking

- MSM

- political activism

- jurisprudence

Well ~ mostly I get 'JUNKS' [probably by the likes of you]...

So fucking blow me... [if that's the case]...

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 18:40 | 3746818 Cathartes Aura
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no, I don't junk you, I don't read that many threads, you have your audience & your detractors I'm sure, as do many of us.

why you say "fuck you & fuck all the bankers you rode in on" is a hoot tho' - have fun with your cheesepopery, etc.

anger is very, very popular nowadays.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 16:05 | 3746403 Go Tribe
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Sammy, next go-round don't smoke. Other than that, croon away!

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:19 | 3745235 Shell Game
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Please add:

 

- Destroyed the very fiber of the Republic:  volunteerism of the States through the destruction of the 10th Amendment to vastly centralize Gov't power.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:01 | 3745128 moskov
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any country with a US before their name would crumble at the end of the day.

There's nothing postive to be united about, it's just cancer cells gathering together in order to become the biggest tumour in the world

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:09 | 3745178 prains
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Jean Baudrillard talked about cancer and the usa back in the 80's, for a frenchman he had his shit wired pretty tight, very enlightening stuff, (red pill with cognac)

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:49 | 3745386 NotApplicable
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I enjoyed reading his books, "Simulacra and Simulation," and "Illusion of the End." I found they do a great job of explaining the seeming irrationality that surrounds us.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:53 | 3745407 prains
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try his America series

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:03 | 3745132 Ethics Gradient
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Is he talking about Snowden or Barroso?

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:47 | 3745375 smacker
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Must be Snowden. Barroso doesn't bear thinking about, let alone talking about !!!

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:08 | 3745142 wisehiney
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When I was in the 3rd grade, our teacher assigned us to write a letter to a governor asking for "descriptive material from your state". I chose California. My letter closed with a "P.S. I would like a picture of Mr. Reagan, he was a movie star." They sent me a nice picture. Years later when I was in college, and Reagan was President, when someone would come over with some lines, I would pull out the framed picture and lay them out on the glass. "Just say NO!" I would shout. That same picture is now in a prominent place on my wall. God, I wish we could have you back Mr. Reagan.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 13:35 | 3745881 el Gallinazo
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My two year old used to just say "No"  all day long, but even then he had a lot more on the mental ball than Ronnie.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:04 | 3745144 stant
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the cold war on americans is going hot. this is how all empires fall

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:05 | 3745150 bigbucksr
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it begs the question... who is the Evil Empire now?!

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:41 | 3745343 sumo
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William Binney (ex-NSA) is on record as saying the US is "this far" (holding his thumb and finger, almost touching) from a turnkey totalitarian state.

 

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:10 | 3745155 MFLTucson
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To interject Reagan with a man like Obama and his behavior is off the charts lunacy.  Obama is a joke; Reagan was a great AMERICAN President.  Can anyone imagine Reagan talking about America like Obama has?  Can anyone imagine Reagan playing the race card and setting America back 50 years in race relations?  Can anyone imagine Reagan allow Russia in on American secrets (I will have more flexibility after the election I rigged using US technology companies is over) or pulling missiles out of Poland?  Can anyone envision Reagan dismantling the US military or allowing the largest redistribution of wealth from working class to the rich in American history?  Can anyone imagine Reagan placing known communists in his cabinet and surrounding himself with people like Reverend Wright or Bill Ayers?  The list is endless and the comparisons of a great American President with Obama and Holder are laughable!

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:20 | 3745245 Bay of Pigs
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You might want to expand your thinking on this. Look at the people around Reagan. Bush, Wolfowitz, Cheney, Meese, Baker, Schultz, Weinberger, etc...

These people were the architects for the War on Terror.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:15 | 3745522 Shell Game
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The truth fucking stings.....until it sets you free.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:41 | 3745340 Kirk2NCC1701
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Look, I doubt that many will argue that Ronnie was a good 'person' (honest, decent, principled, well-meaning, religious), but...

Let's not kid ourselves or blow smoke... Even if it was not his intention, he was in effect, the classic Useful Tool for TPTB.

And I'll bet that even Ronnie would be "spinning in his grave" (so to speak), if he saw what we have become.  And we all know that by his second term, his Alzheimer's was taking hold and that Bush was running the show more than ever.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:46 | 3745365 sumo
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Nah, Ronnie would have gone right along with all that's happened: destruction of Glass-Steagall, TARP and all the other bailouts for the rich, rise of the Surveillance State, falsification of intelligence to justify this or that invasion ...

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:53 | 3745406 Kirk2NCC1701
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LOL.  And I thought I was a cynic.  :-)

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:51 | 3745392 monad
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honest, decent, principled, well-meaning, religious...

Ronald Reagan chose to be inaugurated governor of California at midnight. His first wife was a darling, his second wife not at all. Ronald Reagan declared war on the youth of California, trashed the state education system and then moved on to do the same at the national level. Today Obama is lobbying to continue this tradition of betraying American youth by massive immigration, subsidies to immigrants, and unilateral discrimination - preferred citizens, not equal - at all levels of our society, via massive, invasive, unconstitutional regulation, all in the context of record high unemployment. Reagan was a creep.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:45 | 3745357 A. Magnus
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REAGAN WAS A COMMIE FUCKING SOCK PUPPET!!! Fuck this 'great president' BULLSHIT!!! His Hollywood fucking nickname was 'Red Ronnie' Reagan and he did more to advance Marx's agenda in the US than any president since FDR.

Communist Manifesto Requirement - Centralized economic planning and capital markets. VOILA! Reagan creates the Plunge Protection Team in 1987 and it's been a planned economy ever fucking since. HOW THE FUCK DOES THAT MAKE HIM A GREAT PRESIDENT?

Oh, and in 1985 Reagan invited the Soviets to help design the American school curriculum. Now Junior looks to the state to provide everything from cradle to grave. Look at the results all around you. ARE YOU FUCKING HAPPY?

You can deepthroat Reagan's rotting corpse all you want on your own time, but don't even THINK that anyone with half a brain shares your commie necrophilia fetish...

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:05 | 3745465 wisehiney
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Said you and your commie professor.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:12 | 3745508 A. Magnus
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What was that, banker bitch?

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:15 | 3745519 wisehiney
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Your mother wishes you would get this excited about getting a job.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 14:34 | 3746066 A. Magnus
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Great, a test tube baby bitching about other people's mothers...what fucking tool...

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:20 | 3745550 Kirk2NCC1701
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I'd have to research this, but I recall an NPR interview with some author... not sure if the book was about Ronnie, or J.E.Hoover, but I recall that...

Ronnie was such a happy, active anti-communist, that he'd spy on and report to the FBI anyone in the film industry he thought was a commie.

The FBI liked him so much, that they informed him (either while running for CA Governor or while he was one), that his son was hanging out with known commies.  Apparently Ronnie has "a talk" with his son, to make sure that his political ambitions would not be 'handicapped' by his son's "youthful & idealist indulgences".

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:09 | 3745171 Rainman
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Sheesh....30 years indeed...a Commie's got his ass planted right in Ronnie's old Oval Office seat...proclaiming we must go Foarward Comrades ! 

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:11 | 3745189 Temporalist
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When Ronald was prez did he ever think Detroit would be a ghost town that can't cover their liabilities?

Detroit city workers, retirees push back on pensions

"The plan, if enacted, would be expected to result in significant cuts in pension payments. Although the city currently lists $643.7 million in unfunded pension liabilities, Orr in his report said the number is closer to $3.5 billion if "more realistic assumptions" are taken into account."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/11/us-usa-detroit-unions-idUSBRE9...

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:17 | 3745223 rosiescenario
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"Detroit would be a ghost tow"....that sounds like an improvement over the current situation.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:14 | 3745199 The Thunder Child
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Fucking Trippy, I shit you not I had a dream this morning I was in Moscow airport. We boarded a plane to Cuba which was to leave at 11:30am local time and Snowden was on board, but 15 minutes after takeoff we thought something was wrong and that we were on the wrong plane. So we asked the flight attendant and he said no we were on the plane to Begonia and it was only a 45 minute local flight (still in Russia).

I woke up fired up Zerohedge then read this.....mind fuck. Looked up Begonia and it isn't a destination it is a genus of plant:

"Begonias are very popular in Russia and neighboring countries in the East and North", says Vladimir Mostizki - Benary Product Support Specialist. "Our Begonias can be found all over Russia, in Kazakhstan, and even in Northern Siberia due to high light levels. My fellow countrymen love the lush colors and the outstanding performance of Benary Begonias!"

I think I need to get off the computer for a few days....anyone else have any clue what Begonia could mean?

Edit: Found this on the internet....Begonias symbolize fear and sometimes they are used as "Beware" sign

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:25 | 3745574 The Proletariat
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The road near my farm is named Begonia.....

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:16 | 3745213 rosiescenario
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We have obviously passed 'through the looking glass'....right is left, wrong is right, bad news is good news, etc.

 

Everything is inverted....

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:28 | 3745271 JustObserving
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“The greatest evil is not done now…in those sordid ‘dens of crime’ that Dickens loved to paint. It is…not even done in concentration camps and labor camps. In those we see its final result, but it is conceived and ordered; moved, seconded, carried and minuted in clear, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice.”

Fine description of the NSA

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:48 | 3745382 sumo
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and private fundraisers, and lobbyist meetings, where the hard facts of the deal are made clear to both parties.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:34 | 3745310 I am Jobe
Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:36 | 3745318 Inthemix96
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Never mind,

Our communistic cunts running the show here think that Head Teachers should now either outlaw or ban 'Packed Lunches' which us parents send in to school, to make sure they dont have to eat the processed fucking slime shit the schhools serve, to make sure that my kids' dinner meal is balanced and varied, rather than the school fill them full of shit that I have know idea of whats in it.

Just to make sure the kids get just whats right according to some cunt in a department out sourcing the making of these meals to lowest possible bid.

Adolph Fucking Hitler must be laughing in his grave, the shit these fucking maniacs pull, now daily is beyond the pale.

Even old Reagan must be turning.

Welcome to the forth reich bitchez.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:11 | 3745497 MayIMommaDogFac...
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Whether one loves or hates Raygun you've got to admit that the "we're from the gov't and we're here to help" line is simply a great line.

Doesn't matter too much to me who said it, because it says so much with so few words.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:47 | 3745369 ebworthen
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Ironic that the safest place for an American exposing the treason of his government and military is the "Evil Empire".

This is the ultimate dystopia; no place to hide.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:54 | 3745413 Peter K
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A functional Marxist and his merry band of basement bolsheviks occupy the WH. :(

Who would have thunk?

BTW. Nero came to power 30 years after Rome's Ronald Reagan. Funny that. :) Now we wait for the American Vespasian. RUN SARAH, RUN. :)))))

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 15:24 | 3746242 A. Magnus
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SARAH PALIN is your solution for America? Really? Why don't you just elect a fucking Barbie Doll and be ruled by a fucking bobblehead then?

Reagan was a big government douchebag, and so is Palin. If you think either of them give a shit about you or this country then I have a canal in Egypt to sell you...

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:20 | 3745551 Let them eat iPads
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Reagan was a simple minded douche.

 

He was at his best when talking to chimps.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:22 | 3745559 22winmag
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Reagan was "my" President growing up in the 80s... but in hindsight, the fact that he a) massively expanded the war on drugs (war on freedom) and b) had JFK's assassin as his VP for 8 years has kinda tarnished my image of the man.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:25 | 3745573 MrBoompi
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Of course the Republicans "know God".  Just ask them.  I just wish when they were talking to God, He gave them better advice.

 

 

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 13:16 | 3745590 Shell Game
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'You cannot obey two masters.'    Establishment GOP and Dems worship the State, that is the God they really talk to...

 

edit:  just ask the down-voter...

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:38 | 3745633 BullyBearish
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War is a way of shattering to pieces... materials which might otherwise be used to make the masses too comfortable and... too intelligent.

George Orwell

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:42 | 3745646 Debugas
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It is all propaganda - be it 30 years ago or be it now.

Ignore and avoid your government and politicians as much as you can, concentrate on solving your own life problems instead.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:54 | 3745702 sbenard
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Did HE know Obama?

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 13:07 | 3745769 sethstorm
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Russia hasn't changed in those 30 years - they're still part of Reagan's Evil Empire.

For the right price, Russia will gladly have Snowden assuming room temperature.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 13:07 | 3745772 Prometheus the ...
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If there is any such thing as karma in this universe, then

alzheimer's was just a short detour on Ronnie's way to go fry in hell for eons.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 13:22 | 3745823 Element
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I never believed a damn thing in Reagan's speech at that time, as I had just seen what the US did in Vietnam, and to all of Indochina, just ten years prior, and El Salvador, and Nicaragua, and then the Iran-contra thing - good grief!

Regan was an absolute one-eyed hypocrite, of the worst possible kind, and I can't believe people ever cut him so much slack over that hand-wringing disingenuous pontificating sludge.

Get it through your head, Reagan was another LockMart (et al) backed scumbag warmongerer, trying to justify a massive expansion in US military spending and a massive expansion in US first-strike nuclear forces in Europe, as per the SIOP.

That's what all that verbal crap was about.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 18:57 | 3746851 Parrotile
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Look at Russia's history - invasion by Napoleon (widespread death and destruction); invasion by Germany (within living memory) - same again - millions dead, and again loss of difficult to replace infrastructure, and key thinkers / doers.

When was the last time the USA had ANY military invasion (I do not include the "slow migration" from your southern neighbours!)

The reality is that Russia was justifiably paranoid about a US first strike - for whatever trumped-up reason. You'd be paranoid too with nuclear armed (W85 "Dial a Nuke") Pershing IIs in Turkey, if you lived in Moscow - 10 minutes flight time, or for the German based missiles - just six minutes.

http://peacemagazine.org/archive/v13n1p20.htm Remind me again WHICH Country has ALWAYS been the biggest threat to Global Peace? A clue - it never was Russia, was it . . . . . . .

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 22:28 | 3747366 sethstorm
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When was the last time the USA had ANY military invasion (I do not include the "slow migration" from your southern neighbours!)

The Civil War.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 13:30 | 3745863 Wave-Tech
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The moment the US strayed from strict adherence to the constitution was indeed the beginning-of-the-end.

Particularly abandoning that which was the only item in the constitution specified as NECESSARY to the security of a free state.

The Last Legitimate Measure of Hope

THE ONLY PLAUSIBLE SOLUTION REMAINING is legally to:

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Bring to life actionable ideas on how to crowd source and rapidly fund a viral, universal, politically expedient, and OFFICIAL, working strategy for FAST TRACKING implementation of the last constitutionally mandated line of defense, which harbors the legal authority to restore law and order across the US -  (And by extension, across the globe)

A massive, well-funded, universal, well-organized, official, and viral campaign focused on a universal return to the rule of law with eternal vigilance to adhere to it forever thereafter, is the very last bastion of hope remaining for any remaining semblance of good to triumph over (or at least, check-to-balance) the ever-pervasive and growing powers of widespread evil.

Any hope to pull this off will require a concentration of extremely intelligent persons of means and persuasion that can shake things up, and make things happen in a tangible and substantial way.

It is time to abandon old-paradigm business models that perpetually point to the problem, and replace them with business models that point to and exemplify successfully, sustainable and plausible solutions.

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Fri, 07/12/2013 - 15:07 | 3746178 Spanky
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+1

For...

Now that a critical mass are AWAKE, it’s time to get them dressed and off to work. -- Wave_Tech

What work, specifically, do you suggest?

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 13:41 | 3745903 q99x2
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The States don't have to allow Washington D.C. to be their Federal Government now that Washington represents the Globalist Stazi.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 15:32 | 3745972 Caveman93
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Anyone remember how we screwed the Russian Oligarchs in Cyprus when we confiscated their deposits? Yeah, revenge is a dish best served cold.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 14:46 | 3746109 ToNYC
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Asylum is what you make it. Ethics are ethics and never rely on words  to understand, Cuba is secretive because they have been embargoed. That's a tough media hurdle but if you stop to put on the right glasses, you would see it differently for a while.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 21:12 | 3747163 Trampy
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Free Adam Kokesh Prison Rally Fairfax, VA Sat 13 Jul 10AM 4 Replies

Adam remains in the Fairfax county adult detention center (prison) in Fairfax, Virginia this morning in solitary confinement, without proper clothing, bedding or medical care and with the lights being kept on constantly.

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