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Lies, Damned Lies, And Rappers' Net Worths

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While exaggerating the size of things is nothing new to the human race, and as European politicians have proven - 'sometimes you have to lie'" - it appears the bubble in rappers' net worths has never been bigger. As Bloomberg Businessweek notes, fresh off of Jay-Z’s new album is the track Versus, on which he chides fellow hip-hop artists and their dubious tales of extraordinary wealth: “The truth in my verses, versus, your metaphors about what your net worth is.” Like Jay-Z, we’ve long been skeptical of just how wealthy some hip-hop stars claim to be, so we created a way to separate the truly rich from the loud-mouth lyricists.

 

 

Source: Bloomberg Businessweek

 

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Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:30 | 3744959 fuu
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So this is an ad for Dre headphones or something?

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:39 | 3745002 Pladizow
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Tyler has a PhD - Playa Haytin Degree and is prejudice - where's M&M?

 

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:14 | 3745200 Skateboarder
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It all went downhill after Eric B. and Rakim, in my opinion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5pjkQGAU-w

These guys' fortunes are barely anything compared to that of the private and central wanks, politicos, shitfuck CEOs, and the actual elites who trump all of the aforementioned clowns by an order of magnitude.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:19 | 3745236 boogerbently
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They're all getting rich with OUR entitlement $$$.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:31 | 3745591 Harlequin001
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What 'entitlement $$$'?

Are you entitled to something?

Last I looked you were entitled to work for whatever you think you are worth and can get, and that should be it.

Personally I don't feel entitled to much at all, just the ability to not be drowned in debt by my own fucking government...

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 13:34 | 3745874 PeeramidIdeologies
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Good point there! Unfortunately this author still has the whole money equals wealth thing confused... Tsk tsk... Much to learn,...

On another note this article got an impressive amount activity...

Makes me feel like I should drop a little verse,
Make you grab pump your breaks, throw it in reverse,
Like, what what, is that a white jay-z? Naaa it couldn't be,
He grew up in the bushes, didn't even have cable tv,
Surrounded by bill hillies, babes, we call them fillies,
Boots, cut off jean shorts, making them country boys act silly,
Uh huh but this a side of rap that you have never seen,
Maybe it's never been done, oh wait, there's that's Jason Aldene,
Country music mixed rappin, guaranteed to get them clapping,
It's only gonna take a couple songs, you know it's bound to happen,
Haha you better get there first...

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 14:55 | 3746137 fourchan
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jayz is a talentless self promoter. someone had to say it.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 15:56 | 3746367 PeeramidIdeologies
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Lol looks like he's pretty good at self promoting to me...
What was your talent again?

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 20:02 | 3746806 Jam Akin
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The original rap tune is "Hot Rod Race" which is more country than soul...from 1950.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbtZu9ObbT8

 

 

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 03:55 | 3747749 All Risk No Reward
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The banksters make the most money off of the talent of others in this industry, too.

The banksters control the distribution and media and the artists are dependent on them until the people wake up and only patronize alternate, non establishment avenues of music [or any other kind of] distribution.

If you study these criminals, they set themselves up between the source and the destination so they become the necessary component of trade.

The first thing they do with a self sufficient country is to make it dependent on their international distribution system.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 15:58 | 3746379 boogerbently
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Harq001,

They get theeir welfare check.

They buy Jay-Z CD and clothes.

Rappers get rich.

Get it now ?

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 00:07 | 3747546 jeff montanye
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something like that (government deficits) accounts for why corporate profits now are 70% higher than their long-term trend.  

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:20 | 3745243 Herd Redirectio...
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LOL, looks like NAS is in the negative.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:53 | 3745403 Bananamerican
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NAS?

Biggety-Baggety-Barkety-Jones....

Niggety Bidniz Nigz (nee: Shantwayne Delorean)

The Praz?

Braggadocio T. Prizm

Who gives a shit???

Twenty YEARS of scowling clowns, stuck on stupid, steppin up to da mics to rhyme nigga and trigga.

This is Evil.

 

 

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:14 | 3745472 BLOTTO
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Yes Skateboarder!

.

I miss the Golden Age of Hip Hop...as a kid/teen growing up in the 80s and 90s...thats when the true mad beats where at...where it was (mostly) real.

.

My first concert was Public Enemy -'It takes a Nation of Millions to Hold us Back' - Tour...i was 15 years old.

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The real soild beats and where they would rap about politics, growing up, philosophy, life, etc...not (just) 'bitches and hoes' and sex and money - as the main focus.

Even at 40 - i still just listen to the classics:

Boogie Down Productions, PE, Tribe Called Quest, EpMd, Gangstarr, Black Moon, Tupac,

Digital Underground, Slick Rick, Cypress Hill, House of Pain, Eric B and Rakim,

De La Soul, Run DMC, Wu Tang Clan, Das EFX, Digable Planets, Mobb Deep,

Special Ed, Geto Boys, Pete Rock and CL Smooth, Mc Lyte, etc...just to name a few. But then, they all disappeared...poof...the great beats are done...its all that shit sound.

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All that main stream shit out there right now is all Illuminati controlled - they sold themselves out - 100%.

Fuck JayZ, Diddy, Flo rida, lil Wayne, Kanye West the fuckin bird, etc...all pieces of shit.

.

Tupac had a change of heart - he knew what was up later in his career and he was going to expose it 'God Willing i'm still alive' - and we know what happened next...

Anyway, im all over the place with my thoughts on this topic...ill leave it at that.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:14 | 3745510 Thisson
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No Beastie Boys?  Rayciss!

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:22 | 3745549 BLOTTO
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Oh my - And i seen the Beastie Boys in concert too!!! - i totally forgot...one of the originals...

I was trying to think of as many as i could and forgot a classic.

.

My bad Thisson...my bad.

I seen the Beastie Boys with Biz Markie (who i forgot as well) in 1998 at Molson Park and it was the first time i got baked...how in the fuck did i forget to mention BB...i guess i was baked.

.

RIP Adam Yauch

 

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 15:18 | 3746216 FEDbuster
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Where is Eminem?  Estimates are around $120 mil. for his net worth.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 14:59 | 3746153 monoloco
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The last good rap song for me was Gil Scott Heron's "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised".

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:56 | 3745423 takeaction
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Classic...R.I.P. Eazy...
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX3pmNJ22rQ

 

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:50 | 3745391 takeaction
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Cruisin' down the street in my six-fo'
Jockin' the bitches, slappin' the hoes

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:57 | 3745717 Dingleberry
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No M.C. Hammer?

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 13:34 | 3745879 astroloungers
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unless this is a tongue in cheek atempt at humor.......this is a "jump the shark" moment.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:31 | 3744968 zkay
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I humbly submit,

 

"Dr Dre - What's the difference?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_iuSoyvExo

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:31 | 3744970 Ribeye
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Bunch of saps,

"Life's a bitch, with a wet pussy"

- Rihanna

She's a fckn genius,

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:56 | 3745426 Bananamerican
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Taught you to spell i see....

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:32 | 3744971 onewayticket2
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NAS is negative.....!

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:49 | 3745060 Atlasshruggedme
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Good find, Debt is a bietch. Hammer Time!

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:32 | 3744973 Strut
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Fuck the police!

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:32 | 3744976 Dr. Engali
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That's raycciisssst.....Does this post violate the Hedges new discrimination policy?

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:43 | 3745028 Flakmeister
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Trying to channel Trav??

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:44 | 3745030 fuu
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No, akak has that covered.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:49 | 3745057 akak
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I did not realize that attacking one form of (so-called) music was, or could be, racist.

Perhaps the racist beam is in thine own eye.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:53 | 3745062 fuu
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Fuck off.

" and the misogynistic, socially disfunctional gutter trash that patronize it."

"increasingly beaten-down, poverty-ridden, socially twisted segment of American society (c)rap serves as a mirror for"

Your isms are showing, feel free to hit the little report abuse button.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:54 | 3745085 akak
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And fu too, fuu, you lying piece of shit.

At what point in anything I said above did I refer, explicitly or implicitly, to a particular race?

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:20 | 3745246 boogerbently
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WOW,

The PC police, even on ZH !?!?

That's just sad.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:34 | 3745307 fuu
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Akak is a proud graduate of the Gully Foyle School of Painting.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:41 | 3745337 Ralph Spoilsport
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Alfred Bester called. He and James Joyce are laughing their asses off at this poorly executed conceptual metaphor.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 16:36 | 3746537 Not Too Important
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Disney management will do that to you. Slowly turning the screws . . .

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:55 | 3745066 Dr. Engali
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Nope just saying. Either this is a free speech zone or it isn't. It is their site, but it's very hypocritical of the Hedge to be posting potentially racial content that violates their own policies knowing full well the commentary it will bring out. I for one detest the categorizing of people by "race" however I will remain uncompromising when it comes to the 1st amendment.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:08 | 3745170 MsCreant
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I read the post and did not think about race, or Tyler starting something, until you guys talked about it. I am surprised at how much some of them make. It also seems to me that net worth can move around a bit so that a couple of these guys may know a "ball-park" number, and say it out loud, yet in these rapidly shifting markets, be wrong tomorrow.

I mean this, race did not cross my mind until I got to the comments section.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:28 | 3745183 Dr. Engali
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I was surprised too. This comment by Shizzmoney explains a lot about their so called net worth:

 

 3745003

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:05 | 3745467 Creepy Lurker
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Agree, MsCreant, the only thing I thought when I saw this was, WTF? I thought I was on ZH?

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:37 | 3744979 akak
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Fuck that perverted mockery of music, and the misogynistic, socially disfunctional gutter trash that patronize it.

You can't spell "crap" without "rap".

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:41 | 3745010 Tinky
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Breathtakingly ignorant perspective, I'm afraid.

Not only are you painting with an absurdly broad brush (listen to some classic Gil-Scott Heron, for example), but you utterly fail to recognize the importance of Rap as a mirror of a large segment of American society. 

The aesthetics may not appeal to you as opposed to The Beatles or Rolling Stones, but the cultural significance of Rap is equally profound.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:46 | 3745043 akak
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I don't give a damn how large a segment of an increasingly beaten-down, poverty-ridden, socially twisted segment of American society (c)rap serves as a mirror for --- it is still pure garbage from any decent esthetic standard.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:55 | 3745099 Tinky
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I see that you have a tendency to stereotype at every turn. It's a shame that you apparently can't see how that undercuts the value of your comments.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:00 | 3745120 akak
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Show me any significant number of aficionados of rap who are equally appreciative of the symphony or traditional folk music, and I will concede your point.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:03 | 3745137 Tinky
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Your statement arguably sets a new standard for irony!

Rap is folk music. More precisely, it has a closer connection to the type of folk music to which you refer than any other contemporary music. How do you imagine that Africans were expressing themselves long ago?

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:16 | 3745174 akak
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Perhaps, but the problem here is the "folk" themselves, and their perverted, warped, misogynistic, anti-family, anti-responsibility 'values', from whom and from which this sickly simulacrum of music originates.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:35 | 3745300 MsCreant
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Hey sweetness,

I agree and disagree. I am never up for woman hating and wince when I hear the contempt. I will admit it frightens me, drives a wedge between me and a "them." I am afraid for my physical safety, at times in certain environments, I own it. A gentleman such as yourself is not up for that, sees it, protests it. But as a mother I have to look deeper, I have to ask "What kind of pain underpins this feeling?" It is a world of hurt and privation. Poverty stacks the deck in such a way that it makes "staying" too hard, Dads leave. Kids are raised by mom only, everywhere you look. It is just how it is. Mom is over extended, doing what she can, Dad is absent, they are raising themselves. Mom does not look like the way to be. There is no Dad. There is a void. We ask them to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. That is so fucking hard when you don't see it around you anywhere. I was super poor as a kid. But I was white. There were people who pulled me aside and told me I had it in me to acheive. They encouraged me where my parents couldn't. Those folks saved my life. I don't know where kids in inner city situations are going to get that. Getting back to this music, I don't ask you to like the sound, but I do ask you to consider that it is a form of free speech that folks have a right to use to express themselves, and it can be a valuable form of protest, resistance, and a form of communication. It has been coopted by the corporations (just true) but some important stuff happens in the venue. And sometimes, it makes me dance, and I just can't help it. ;-) Sometimes it's just time to shake that rump.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:54 | 3745415 akak
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Nice reply, MsCreant, and food for thought as well.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:39 | 3745518 Bananamerican
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No surrender Akak. 

There is no "food" in rap apologists "thoughts".

Consider the foment, change and inovation in music from 1965-1970...the Breadth and Generosity of that music...and contrast with the "Guaranteed Revenue Stream™", the sheer self-aggrandizing, DEHUMANIZING (you don't do drive-by's to the Beatles), narcissistic, social pathology of Rap.

"I do ask you to consider that it is a form of free speech that folks have a right to use to express themselves...It has been coopted by the corporations (just true)"

Which is it Ms.?

The Free Speech™ or the Corporatism™?....Or, like our own decadent and degraded Democracy™ (of which Rap is the "cemented in cultural place" soundtrack), is it the End? (Beau-ti-ful friend)

Rap is the soundtrack that makes Luciferians chuckle at the EASE with which they got sheeple to embrace it...and embrace it...and embrace it. My daughter is 19 now, she told me cops would frisk the kids heading into the dance for contraband (in an upper middle class high school) and then, without a trace of irony, proceed to play "From the windows to the walls, To the sweat drop down my balls...Muthafuckaz" (and the fucking "Macarena"). This is Luciferian.

Rap is VILE and what is worse, so much worse...It is absolutely, positively, irrevocably, PLAYED OUT.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:52 | 3745690 Panafrican Funk...
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Do you also find rock and roll to be Luciferian?

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:52 | 3745693 Creepy Lurker
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Another thing; rap is pushed as being 'universal' among the current younger generation. Now I can't speak the currently under 18's since I don't have much contact with them anymore, but the 20 and 30 somethings I run into listen to more rock than rap. Some of them find it amusing that I listen to Tool, Perfect Circle, and grunge, but I point out that grunge was what was playing on the radio when I was thier age, and I'm not about to stop listening to music just because I've reached a certain age.

I first heard rap way back in the late 80's when the very first of it came out. This is the supposedly "meaningful" rap that was right at the beginning. Yeah, it was meaningful, all right. "Bitch hoe, bitch hoe, kill whitey!" Seriously. That's all it was. Every 'song'. So no, sorry, that's a myth. It was never meaningful. Its always been hateful, violent and mysoginistic.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 16:42 | 3746552 Not Too Important
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Just to throw this out there, but in the US, the largest purchaser of rap music is white people, mostly through Wal-Mart. Interesting that Wal-Mart will outlaw Paula Deen's cookbooks, but won't send any of the offensive rap CD's back to the record companies.

So to be racist these days, who specifically do we hate on? It's just too damn confusing for me.

 

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:25 | 3745265 lakecity55
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They were expressing themselves by shouting, beating drums and jumping up and down around a campfire.

Other than now using electricty, nothing has changed.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 16:43 | 3746556 Not Too Important
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Fife. Don't forget the fife.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:55 | 3745102 Jaspergers
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Buck 65 once referred to his music as country rap or "crap" <3

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:58 | 3745110 Ness.
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Yeah nigga, MC Ren up in this motherfucker

(West West y'all)
Yeah, L.A. niggas
L.A. niggas rule the world nigga
Y'all niggas gotta recognize, yaknahmsayin?
Niggas don't wanna peep game, yaknahmsayin?
But this shit come all the way back around here
My nigga Dre, droppin heat box on y'all bitch-ass
Yaknahmsayin? You gotta recognize
L.A. niggas, connected all over the motherfuckin world, nigga
Recognize this

 

I thought the "n" word was baaaad?


You're right - this is pure genius.
Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:59 | 3745118 Tinky
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Be sure to check back in when you have a response that reaches above the moronic level.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:10 | 3745180 Ness.
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These are your boyz lyrics homie, don't beez a h8er. I'm having a hard time finding the cultural significance in these sage words.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:33 | 3745610 Bananamerican
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thass cuz u miss deez fresh leeriks Ness...

"Shortie crunk so fresh so clean can she fuck that

Question been harassing me in the mind this bitch is fine

I done came to the club about 50th 11 times now can I play with yo panty line club owner said I need to calm down security guard go to sweating

Me now nigga drunk then a motherfucker threaten me now"

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:03 | 3745139 Shizzmoney
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Hip Hop is some of the most hard hitting journalism out there. 

The same shit these guys rapped about in the 90s, like Wu-Tang and GangStarr, or even RUN DMC's song, Tricky".....is still happening today. "listen to some classic Gil-Scott Heron" - his song "Like a B Movie" is essentially the same shit happening in the early 80s that is happening now (especially for black Americans):

Their slogan is, "Why wait for 1984? You can panic now...and avoid the rush."

So much for the good news...

As Wall Street goes, so goes the Nation
And here's a look at the closing numbers:
Racism's up, Human Rights are down
Peace is shaky, War items are hot
The House claims all ties

Jobs are down, money is scarce
And common sense is at an all-time low with heavy trading
Movies were looking better than ever
And now no one is looking because
We're starring in a "B" movie

Now, once the RIAA got it hands on it......obvious it became a propaganda arm (proactively as the nation becomes more racially diverse), hence why you hear folks on here complaining about the music they hear on the MSM radio. Most good hip hop...is NOT on the MSM radio, and the ratio is waning for the obvious reasons.

It's basically evolved into, what MSN's Jason Whitlock has described as "Bojangle N*gga Rap".  Dumbed down, overly produced (so it SOUNDS nice) pseudo techno-crap that you grind to in the club, not something that stimulates your mind and makes you think about the real shit happening in the real world.

The ladder is NOT what the RIAA wants because a) the Wall St people who fund the companies the RIAA represents don't want people to become aware of the declining situation and b) obviously, it doesn't sell (especially today; dumb societies want dumb music.  See: Country).

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:46 | 3745367 Dr. Venkman
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Shizz - the path from the Gil-Scott Heron to most of the rappers on the list above would look similar to that world-price gold anti-correlation chart:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-07-11/guest-post-golds-changing-antic...

even then there would be a few breaks in the chain.

To your point though - the worst thing that happened to rap/hip-hop was that white people started listening to it.

 

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:33 | 3745605 ThirdWorldDude
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As that old saying goes: Those who speak don't know, those who know don't speak...

 

Quality music can no longer be heard on any commercial radio station (and nowadays MTV stand for Morons' TV). Quality never goes out of style and most white man can't jump!

 

Enjoy brother (and notice how real artists don't need to be vulgar to spread their message):

Public Enemy - Fight The Power   http://youtu.be/8PaoLy7PHwk

KRS One - Just Like That   http://youtu.be/1q_C0o9GHsw

The Roots - Now Or Never  http://youtu.be/nWhIayQL8YY

Mos Def ft. Massive Attack - I Against I  http://youtu.be/kKv_eZwJh34

Beastie Boys - Sure Shot  http://youtu.be/JhqyZeUlE8U  

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:21 | 3745247 lakecity55
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Yes, the literate, brilliant lyrics and complex musical arrangements are quite astounding.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:44 | 3745034 TheSilverJournal
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Not that I disagree, but most forms of supposed entertainment are quite irrational.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:48 | 3745053 BigJim
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 Fuck that perverted mockery of music, and the misogynistic, socially disfunctional gutter trash that patronize it.

You can't spell "crap" without "rap".

Hey Akak, I used to agree, but I saw "8 Mile" and it changed my appreciation for the artform... and it really is an artform.

Like most popular artforms, 80% of it is still shit, of course.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:52 | 3745078 akak
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Believe it or not, I watched "8 Mile" too (and even lived within a few miles of 8 Mile Road for a number of years when I was young), but I still cannot tolerate even a single second of being exposed to rap; it is like a rusty cheese grater being dragged against the tender skin of everything traditionally decent and honest about music.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:03 | 3745130 Ralph Spoilsport
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Couldn't agree more akak. If you appreciate music at all, hearing any amount of (c)rap is enough to cause one to start giving disco music a second chance. I also can't tolerate the confused mish-mash of genres they call "country" music these days.

The rest of you, get off my lawn! Me and akak are listening to Iron Butterfly!

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:06 | 3745158 akak
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+100 Ralph!

 

PS: And yes, what is up with country music nowadays?  "Confusing mish-mash of genres" echoes my sentiments exactly.  But I largely stopped listening to country music post-9/11, when those such as Toby Keith politicized it with their kneejerk pro-warmongering posturing.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:14 | 3745204 Ralph Spoilsport
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Talk about cashing in on tragedy. People like Sean Hannity quickly started using these morose and insipid songs as theme music. Pretty much everything is politicized now and we'll just have to bear with it.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:18 | 3745230 lakecity55
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Rap is nothing more than a scheme  by a certain tribe to use street n*****s to further attack the morals of America.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:08 | 3745480 Bohm Squad
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The great irony is that Toby Keith's "Courtesy of the Red, White, and Blue" song would work very, very well if you replace the terrorists with the current administration...

 

lol...Uncle Sam put your name at the top of his [NSA] list...and so on.  All about perspective.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:20 | 3745244 dwayne elizando
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What is Iron Butterfly?

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:22 | 3745251 akak
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The latest model of privacy-invading drone.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:31 | 3745281 dwayne elizando
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Fuck the Beatles!

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 22:12 | 3747325 Bananamerican
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Lol.
That's like saying "fuck flowers"...you 3rd world shithead

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:34 | 3744983 doomandbloom
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repeat

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:35 | 3744993 Heffer
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All their talent combined still wouldn't come close to the great Frank Zappa!!!

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:58 | 3745113 alien-IQ
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their talent combined doesn't even come close to Dweezil Zappa.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:35 | 3744994 Dr. Venkman
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To be fair to Nas, his net worth took a hit when he took on some large student loans to get his pHd.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:36 | 3744997 Lendo
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Slim Thug is one of the few rappers that knows how to save & invest money.  Not to mention he's awesome.

 

http://www.amazon.com/kindle-store/dp/B008NWJUXA 

 

 

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:37 | 3745003 Shizzmoney
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The majority of this "wealth" is actually "debt".

Artists are paid in loans that they must repay through album sales.  Labels pretty much own your ass until you fulfill either the payments or album obligation (where they also own your art).

As you see the rappers with actual wealth here are mostly those who "boomed" during the late 90s-early 2000s when sales exploded....before a) people learned how to get free shit from computers, b) actually had money to spend on this shit and c) it was actual music and funk, not MIDI house drivel.

Dr. Dre's wealth, for example, doesn't come from his albums necessarily (although he does better than most with the classics he churned out).  Its from royalties from his "Beats by Dre" headphones line as well as since he made a shit ton of money early on, he ws able to start his own label.....and bascially become the slave master (like the RIAA) that he was once under.  Hell, even Eminem sued him after he wanted to split from "Aftermath" to start his own label.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:49 | 3745055 Lendo
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This is why you own your music and push it through your own label.  The money that can be made off of concerts is astounding.

 

 

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:16 | 3745190 Shizzmoney
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This is why the RIAA and Wall St hates "piracy".....it enables artists to cut out the middle man (who can be a useful tool in terms of marketing, studio quality......but those services are waning in quality AND effectiveness). 

Consumers are more picky about their music now; they dont want to be told what to listen to.  Instead of "suggestions"- record labels basically tell you what to do.  So artists will do what they have to do to maintain their integrity AND grow their income.

Louis CK, a comedian, recently did his own comedy special on his website.  Granted, it doesn't get the exposure (or the guarunteed pay) that an HBO gig does, but he took a 25K investment (what it cost to film in 1080p HD) and turned it into a million dollars in a month (which enabled him to get exposure for the HBO gig). He even said he didn't mind if users pirated the video (it cost $5).   Users reponded by not just buying the video, but also donating even more towards his art (a free market! #egads)....proving that pirates actually SPEND MORE THAN CONSUMERS WHO DON'T PIRATE.

Without mp3's.....Napster....there is no iPhone.

NO FEES, NO SUITS.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:50 | 3745393 Lendo
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Louis CK is hysterical!

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:51 | 3745073 BigJim
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I was going to add... exactly how did whoever drew this comparison know what the 'real' wealth of these 'geniuses' actually is?

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:38 | 3745005 U4 eee aaa
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It seems all that illegal downloading is not hurting toooo much

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:38 | 3745006 Not My Real Name
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That's funny ... I thought I was on ZeroHedge. How did I get stuck on PerezHilton.com?

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:38 | 3745007 Temporalist
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I want more MC Hammer...at least he had gold toilets.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:49 | 3745059 CrimsonAvenger
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And pants that inspired a generation.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:39 | 3745015 Seasmoke
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Fuck Shawn Carter !  He is the Bernanke of throwback jerseys.  Blew the bubble too big and then popped it. 

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:40 | 3745019 Temporalist
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How does 50 cent have less that lil stain?  Travesty! (or inflation)

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:41 | 3745021 auntiesocial
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where is the chart gauging my crew's annual crack cocaine sales?

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:44 | 3745036 Seasmoke
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50 cent has been short changed on this chart !#!#

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:45 | 3745040 Agent P
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Russell Fucking Simmons, bitchez!  That cat is loaded!

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:51 | 3745072 Dr. Bonzo
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Nikki Minaj had each breast insured for 100 million.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:05 | 3745146 Oldballplayer
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Like you could sell one for that much.

I mean the one on Sons of Anarchy was like, what, $10k?  Are hers' really worth that much more?

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:54 | 3745074 Blazed
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Ah yes the "rapper", the paragon and apex of Western civilization. I quite like a morning funny.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:52 | 3745075 dwayne elizando
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These old bastard rappers should just stop. Loud mouth old men actin like hood rats. Jay z recently released one of the worst albums I've ever heard. Complete lazy ass attempt at creating something he dares to call music. I hope that if/when the system crashes these clowns just go away.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:53 | 3745088 Stuck on Zero
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At least these guys have produced something that someone wants to earn their wealth.  Contrast that to the Wall Street Tycoons.

 

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:53 | 3745091 repete
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Bob Dylan was the first rapper

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kQUkDOPeHA

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:57 | 3745107 redwater
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Kanye gonna be mad you didn't put him in the list.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 10:59 | 3745119 alien-IQ
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Remember when musicians actually played instruments and could read and write music? ah the good old days....

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:03 | 3745131 akak
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Or when musicians actually made music --- now there was a novelty!

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:00 | 3745126 Navymugsy
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This is the hard hitting journalism I come here for! How much is the guy who sings "Bitch don't kill my vibe" worth anyway?????

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:03 | 3745135 Oldballplayer
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Where is the Snoop Doggy Dogg?  His was the last rap album I ever bought.  Although I did download Straight Out of Compton a couple of weeks ago.  Not bad for a fifty year old white guy.  At least I know who some of these guys are.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:19 | 3745238 MsCreant
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He is now Snoop Lion. 

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:59 | 3745433 Crash Overide
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Clavin "I have multiple weapons charges and rap about shooting people" Brodis is now Snoop Lion which is now pushing anti gun rights for the middle tier puppet masters. 

Looks like someone reprogrammed Snoop.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:55 | 3745708 Tsunami Wave
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Yeah WTF.. Remember during that directed 'national conversation' on gun control? Snoop Doggy Dog, Chris Rock, and tony Bennett (why?) all spoke out against owning guns and supported restricting them. Man, how the mighty have fallen. Snoop Dogg's first album is one of the best rap albums of all time.. And now he's this. Maybe he's owned by his corporate associates.... Or just smoked too much chronic.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:35 | 3745314 William Murderface
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Also instantly asked where the doggy dogg was at.   And to think there's a canine on the board and it's not him!   For shame!!   Soul Plane SURELY must still be paying dividends, right???

And +1 for the NWA reference.  

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:04 | 3745143 Eugene9876
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I thought Dr Dre was worth "more than a stealth bomber" in Keep Their Heads Ringing. $350 million might buy a stealth bomber nosecone.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:05 | 3745151 Ribeye
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Wait a minute....

Vlad's only condition is that Snowy stops harming the "US"?

What are ye in about Vlad?

He's harming the US Govt,

Not the US,

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:57 | 3745431 Creepy Lurker
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+1 for trying to change the stupidest thread I've ever seen on ZH.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:11 | 3745161 Downtoolong
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So, it looks like DD and Jay-Z might make decent financial advisors, Lil Wayne and 50 Cent could probably sell stocks and bonds, but, it would take a NAS-Pitbull-Minaj Trois to be able to market IPO’s.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:13 | 3745192 Heffer
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One day music will be a religion and Frank Zappa will be our god.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:16 | 3745219 orangedrinkandchips
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cmon...."LIFE AINT NOTHIN BUT BITCHES AND MONEY".....f'real dough!

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:18 | 3745226 acrabbe
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Not a good article for ZH to post. For one, the author of this article doesn't know what the fuck she's talking about. Two, not all of the rappers are being judged by the same criteria. Some of them are being judged based on net worth, others income, and this judgement is based on the particular song lyric being referenced by the quote. A good example of how fucked this article is would be 50Cent, who is on the Forbes list at north of $250MM in wealth. $100MM of that attributable to his minor stake in Glaceau (Vitamin water manufacturer) that was bought by Pepsi for $4.1B a few years ago. But this article claims to reference his income in the partiuclar year that he wrote the song lyric.... Very weak criteria. For one, most of these lyrics are pure braggadacio and are not meant to truly reflect the artists actual earnings. #2, there are a plethora of other lyrics from each artist that could have eben used, but weren't.

Nas owns part of the touring/concert promotion company that hosts the Rock The Bells global concert circuit. Is that discussed here? His stake brings him  tens of millions in income annually.

The majority of rappers exagerrate and inflate their wealth to add to their music persona and mystique. Yes, most of them are in debt to the record labels. But there are also ALOT of artists who are NOWHERE on the mainstream radar who make between $250k and a few million a year doing SHOWS, producing and selling bEATS, GHOSTWRITING for big-label rappers, and doing various types of music-related promotions and INVESTING their money. Rappers like Cormega, Chamillionaire, OJ da Juiceman, RZA,  La the darkman... the list goes on.... wanna know why you don't hear about these guys? Because they are POSTIVE role models for their communities and go against the negative stereotype the media tries very hard to maintain. That same stereotype that guys like akak fall prey too.

It's a generational thing... most young people are aware enough these days to understand this particular genre as an artform and realize it's very DIVERSE, just like rock is made up of many sub-genre's rap/hip-hop is the same. But ZH'ers don't seem to be very aware in this regard.

A little disappointing, but this IS an economics/financial news blog, not a music/lifestyle/culture blog. And based on alot of the ignorant comments regarding race and religion it's obvious that the expertise and awareness of most ZH readers doesn't extend much further than fuck the fed and buy silver.

Shame. And you guys think you aren't amongst the sheep, but look at how easily you fall prey to sheep-herding tactics...

FUCKING PATHETIC.


Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:24 | 3745261 akak
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It's still all just crap.

Now get the Hell offa my lawn!

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 18:50 | 3746835 Jam Akin
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You should take a listen to Makaveli's Blasphemy sometime akak.  I have a feeling you'd enjoy it.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:34 | 3745299 Ralph Spoilsport
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As you have noticed, some of us don't like this kind of music and we fall into a certain demographic. We're not supposed to like rap any more than our parents liked the Beatles, Stones or Hendrix. Says a lot about the current climate that not liking a style of music indicates that the dislikers are being herded like sheep. Bullshit.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:23 | 3745257 thismarketisrigged
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how the fuck is jay z worth more than half a billion?

 

his music, like all music today fucking sucks. 

 

just shows what a pathetic society we live in today, guys like jay z are worth a shitload.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:19 | 3745498 Shizzmoney
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RE:

How the fuck is jay z worth more than half a billion?

He owns Roc-A-Fella...which is a label that has artists who produce music (under the big time publisher DefJamIsland Records, owned by Richard Simmons). 

Roc-A-Fella has grown from a clique of rappers into a business: becoming a clothing line (made by Malayasian slaves and sold at Macy's) AND even a sports representation agency (reps Cano and Durant) as Jay-Z's popularity has grown.  He even owned 1% of the Brooklyn Nets.  Also married to Beyonce, a brand in herself, who also sells a shit ton of albums.

What's funny is these rappers, when they brag about their wealth, even talk about owning assets, portfolios, and stocks......as if it's something of a holy grail to black people...including Jay-Z (who I am sure once he blew up, got into the stock market where some Jew made him money).  It's very hypcritical.......like American society.

Example: Jay-Z's buddy Kayne West in his song, "New Slaves", talks about how prisoners who are made to work for slave wages are "contributing to materialism"........while in the video, he is wearing a $200K gold chain. #fail

 

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:29 | 3745273 Inthemix96
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How the fuck anyone can listen to the shit these 'Artists' call music is beyond me.

Its fucking shit, pure unadulterated noise pollution for the soul.  Rappin'?  Fuck off, its noise, thats all it is.

I would rather listen to a train going along a railway track than listen to this filth.

And another thing, bring back Rick Astley, that kid could fucking croon for fun.

Bitchez, bitch....          ;-)

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:09 | 3745488 Joebloinvestor
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A great way to launder money.

Notice how not one has been arrested for it?

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:34 | 3745304 yourlifeisamyth
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Good for them! I hope they enjoy their millions/billions. It's the drones who buy their "music" who should be bitchslapped.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:40 | 3745339 Chaos_Theory
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Will anything from the last forty years (rap, hair band rock, alternative rock, country, Emo Euro dance, etc.) still be listened to in three hundred years like the music from the 1700s are today?  Will they be considered as genious as a Mozart, Beethoven, Bach, Vivaldi, Handel, Tchaikovsky, Schubert, etc.? 

 

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:49 | 3745388 Ralph Spoilsport
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In 300 years, only these Druids with guitars will be listened to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtnG6EHh1N4

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 13:00 | 3745736 IridiumRebel
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...and the world will be inhabited by these skynet style robo-killers having long since offed the human scourge that built them. 

 

http://www.fastcompany.com/3014203/fast-feed/meet-darpas-humanoid-robot-...

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 13:15 | 3745813 Chaos_Theory
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So what you're saying is Techno and Electronica are the safe bets...

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 13:24 | 3745846 IridiumRebel
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there will be no live musicians....

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 13:04 | 3745739 IridiumRebel
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I was expecting a little shredding, but releasing a root note for 20 seconds only to be followd by another root note is....exhilerating. 

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:59 | 3745437 akak
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Excellent observation, Chaos_Theory.

Just like most modern buildings and institutions, I have no doubt that most modern music as well will only be an archane footnote in history 200 or 300 years from now.  It's ironic how we consider ourselves so "advanced", and yet virtually every aspect of our culture and our society is increasingly transitory.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 13:02 | 3745745 Dr. Venkman
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WYLD STALLIONS!

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 11:49 | 3745385 Crash Overide
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Ganster Rap, Hip Hop, whatever whatever was created and glorified by for profit prison system businessman looking to cash in on troubled youths?

How does the old saying go, create the problem and offer the solution or something to that extent...?

 

http://www.businessinsider.com/former-music-exec-describes-the-scary-mee...

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:38 | 3745630 Muppetrage
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First you rap about da man then you become da man.

Dave chapelle mtv crib parody  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMLRg8xSgjs

 

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:45 | 3745661 mark mchugh
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Regardless of how I feel about their "art", or personal conduct, I have a certain level of respect for anyone who is subject to real market forces and acquires wealth.  That includes athletes, entertainers and artists.

But their success always illustrates something else to me as well: How over-rated the Ivory Tower crowd is.  Getting a PhD in literature doesn't mean anyone will want to read what you write.  I'd rather hear Mark Knofler play guitar than any Berklee graduate, and until the eggheads at Stanford can produce a better hitter than Miguel Cabrera, maybe they should shut the fuck up about what is the "correct" way to hold the bat.

We allow any schmuck willing to log enough classroom hours to be proclaimed an expert, but in areas of endeavour where you can't fake success easily, we find out what those sheepskins are really worth.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 13:12 | 3745804 deerhunter
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When you spew garbage you become garbage,  garbage in garbage out.  No respect for anything, anyone,, anyhow.  No daddy in the house no rules,  no values.  I was told when I worked in Detroit and ran an all black kitchen that the most confusing day in da hood was Fathers Day cause none of them know who daddy is.  As told to me by a black guy. 

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 13:13 | 3745807 deerhunter
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Not racist,  the truth. 

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 13:18 | 3745825 Motorboat
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Dre is the baddest nigga of all!

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 13:45 | 3745919 mekanical
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Is it just me or is the black bar representing the actual wealth of Nas going in the negative direction?

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 14:52 | 3746130 Fascist Dictator
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Rap is Crap

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 15:30 | 3746258 TahoeBilly2012
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Rap with John Lydon!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPHDQLuZaGo

 

Trip on the lyrics! 

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 15:55 | 3746362 W74
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My guess is that most of the smaller players are MASSIVELY in debt on houses and cars, but also even more frivolous things like jewelry, rims, clothes, accessories, etc.  They probably run up quite the party tab too.

The only success stories here are the ones who were able to market a brand and then run with it (or have their managers run with it) using their names and reputations.  Funny, but the older guys in their late 40s and 50s are blowing the younger punks (who are a disaster for black culture in America) out of the water.

Trying to maintain the APPEARANCE of wealth is really quite expensive.

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