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Boeing Craters On Another Burning Dreamliner; Deadly Train Crash In Paris
UPDATE 2: Boeing chimes in:
RT: We’re aware of the 787 event @HeathrowAirport and have Boeing personnel there. We're working to fully understand and address this.
— The Boeing Company (@Boeing) July 12, 2013
UPDATE: Boeing stock now down over 6% from pre-news...
testing 50DMA...
First it was imploding peripheral bond markets, now Europe is closing off the weak with even worse news, following reports of a burning Ethiopian Airlines 787 Dreamliner in Heathrow as well as news of a commuter train crash in Paris with numerous trapped and 8 dead according to Parisien. Boeing stock getting monkeyhammered on this latest ongoing fiasco, which for Boeing's sake better not involve the Lithium batteries...
First this:
'Many Casualties' In Paris Train Derailment http://t.co/ix35wGZu2T
— Sky News (@SkyNews) July 12, 2013
Reports of Ethiopian plane on fire at Heathrow Airport, no reports of casualties - both runways are currently closed
— Sky News Newsdesk (@SkyNewsBreak) July 12, 2013
Bloomberg reveals it is a...surprise... Boeing 787:
- SKY TV IMAGES SHOW BOEING 787 HAVING BEEN SPRAYED WITH FOAM
- SKY TV IMAGES SHOW INCIDENT INVOLVES ETHIOPIAN AIR BOEING 787
Boeing stock crashing:
The Dreamliner in question:
And now this:
'Many Casualties' In Paris Train Derailment http://t.co/ix35wGZu2T
— Sky News (@SkyNews) July 12, 2013
And from France24:
Picture of the train:
UPDATE:
- *SNCF CHAIRMAN SAYS TRAIN IN CRASH HAD ABOUT 370 PASSENGERS
- *SNCF CHAIRMAN PEPY SAYS TRAIN CARS 3, 4, FIRST DERAILED
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Who is John Galt?
+100, read my mind.
The American MSM will report the cause as South Korean culture!
I am affraid. I want to gov't to do something. I can just see the MSM headlines scaring the ....?
Notice how the PPT swooped in and banged up the S&P right when that happened.
At this point I wouldn't fly B787, even if it was "pissing whisky" ...
Train derailment? Looks more like some soccer (oops I mean futbol) hooligans tipped over a car...
The new tagline: Crushing hopes and dreams.
That's certain to cause confusion and delay.
+1 for referencing Thomas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoS1MCF8AeI
Or should that caption read:
" Boing ! "
The Boeing Corvair
Never fear HFT algo's and POMO chickies........Boeing's Dreamliner Replacements are in the pipeline !!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMhdksPFhCM
The Air Pinto
or an obscure Youtube video
SKYHIGH AIRLINES: "We've Got Our Head In The Clouds."
"We're not happy until you're not happy"
Never Get There Airlines from Rocko's Modern Life.
Wonder Airlines. If you get there alive, it will be a wonder.
Proudly stolen from Looney Tunes, early twentieth century.
Exactly
He's that guy with the engine that runs on nothing, apparently this aircraft doesn't have that. He must be still keeping it secret.
religion of peace?
New Snowden Statement in Moscow:
http://homment.com/Snowden-statement
Hist statement rings true. It will be interesting to see how the world reacts to this.
NSA spying never catches Israelis, why not?
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/07/11/313314/nsa-spying-never-catches-israelis/
Once you've mastered the art of Fiddling on Roofs ~ you're more slippery than a greased pig... [oh wait]...
Because they are smart enough to know the difference between, legal and wet-job persecution.
Rhetorical question: Do you and your ilk have difficulty making that distinction?
The end is near! REPENT! (and sell your gold to Uncle Ben)
Waiting for another Interstate bridge to collapse for a trifecta...
Just another form of looting or byproduct of it....
Domestic inteligence extremism.
Is all.
Sounds like a problem that is begging for the application of a potato peeler.
that is 2 boeing airplane crashes in less than a week.
boeing should be at 120 shortly.
its down today, but that will be short lived.
its amazing how boeing was at like 70 in jan and now its at 103 in july.
no bubbles though, lol.
Krugman says: burning planes mean MOAR GROWTH! Do you know how many windows a plane has?
This is what happens when you do not contribute enough to Chalky's campaign fund.
Besides, what do expect from a plane held together by glue?
thismarketisrigged:
" that is 2 boeing airplane crashes in less than a week.
"
WHERE IS THAT 2nd CRASH? <br> (Looks like that plane above actually LANDED unless you WANTED some other outcome)my bad, i wrote that at the time when i thought that todays was a crash also.
ill rephrase. 2 boeing incidents in less than a week
boeing 787 today and pilots can not fly 777 yesterday?
They call it the Dreamliner cause it only works... in your dreams.
Coming to the US (actually already here).
http://www.infragame.net/
Also soon to be known as the Nightmairliner.
Burning 666 Dreamfire
Burning 787 Steamflamer
i must say it is fun watching boeing stock crash on level 2. all the red flashes makes me happy
Boeing stawk: "Controlled descent into terrain..."
An explosion occured at a mosque in Birmingham in UK.
Has been called a terrorist attack by the police.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/489685/20130712/mosque-attack-birmingh...
Tipton Mosque Blast: 'Nails Found' after Explosion in Birmingham SuburbBut blowing up your own mosque doesn't make any sense. Maybe it's insured?
Muslim Lightning doesn't have the same ring to it.
"Has been called a terrorist attack by the police."
Wow, they are getting brazen. The deep state usually tries to hide these plans using cops to blow up stuff.
Probably some white kids. They know how to make crude pipe bombs containing nails.
Precisely!
Its funny when a mosque blows up in UK or US, it is called a terrorist attack from the very first minute. But when it blows up in Pakistan or Syria or Iraq, it is not! Go figure!
For example, mostly they are called suicide bombers (I wonder how and why ordinary illiterate rural people became suicide bombers......hmmmmmm):
http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/attacks-targeting-shiites-kill-19-in-iraq-1....
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/11/us-pakistan-blast-idUSBRE96A0F...
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-05-25/world/39511672_1_guest-hou...
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/21/us-syria-crisis-blast-idUSBRE9... (here they called 'terrorist suicide blast')
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/19/us-yemen-attack-idUSBRE87H03I2...
despite boeing accounting for nearly 6 percent of dows weighting, and being down now 6 percent, the dow is only down a quarter of percent as a whole.
if boeing was not crashing, the dow would be flat.
how pathetic, the bernanke put.
The fallacy of broken windows/crashed airplanes?
All I know is Boeing just picked up 2 more orders on their books in a week. Bullish.
eight people killed here in paris.
The train broke. The first part of the train is allright - stay on track ... the second part cars lying on the track or on a platform.
People had been electrocuted or crushed... We don't know for the crushed people if it was awaiting people at Bretigny sur orge or passengers as the problem occured at the station.
(This train was not supposed to halt at bretigny)
Probably it was waiting for Godot.
Was this the TGV high speed rail between Paris and London? Eurostar?
With Snowden still brewing, need to scare everyone, including Europeans back into the arms of the NSA.
Nobody needs to set their nuts on fire in one of those.
"Yeah, we better charge up the batteries before we take off again."
pods
How does a train car on a straight level track just tump over like that?
Damn kids and their pennies. Drone their asses!
Damn it! They need to PASS A LAW!
Now, dammit!
wow, those nsa guys stay busy, huh?
Fire on the 787 in the back, where the batteries are.
Design and engineering flaw not fixed.
Saving 5 gallons of fuel to have caustic explosive batteries running critical systems = DUMB.
If its the batteries, this will be good for Airbus, bad for Boeing. Watch their order book collapse. Weren't aircraft orders the only bright spot in the recent PMI? Oh dear. Train crash is a tragedy but insignificant for Europe as a whole.
Agree.
I would look at the train derailment as a possible harbinger that infrastructure maintenance has been cut or is not being done.
Any sober assesment of the bridges in the U.S. would show the same; sacrificing the future for present expediency.
Shortage of labor. When you fix prices, when you control capital, you tend to run out of things - supplies, tools, parts, hands.
Central planning = shortages
Economy 101
I think you mean "watch the US gov continue stealth nationalization of Boeing", who's up for some no-bid contracts?
I fucking hate trains and subways, etc. The Marxist filth running our U.S. government want to funnel all of us onto trains via U.N. Agenda 21 and their NDAA relocation/re-education plans...all the FEMA camps are enclosd with razor wire and have train tracks feeding into them from one side and out the other.
All trains lead to Auschwitz.
It is apparently very easy to gas and kill thousands on subways, as the recent "police" test in NYC proved.
I am sure they now know just how much Zyklon-B gas to use for their next FF attack.
I wonder how many NYC cops are gonna die when they pull that one off?
Not enough?
Exactly. On public transit, we're all more like the chattel the statists want us to be, want us to perceive ourselves as, want us to submit to ...
Adjectivechattel (comparative more chattel, superlative most chattel)
- Commonly used to describe the treatment of Russian serfs as property.
Nounchattel (plural chattels)
While I do appreciate the point, I would be remiss not to point out that the universal car (oil-wasting debtmobile) ownership model that was central to, well, central planning for a century is not a viable alternative.
Long horses, mules, and oxen.
Ethiopia can afford a 787 Dreamliner?
HAHA, right??? Not anymore! It was probably their only one.
Miracle of vendor financing.
The miracle of US taxpayer aid.
I read somewher the the Etheopian .gov crashed and the CIA is now running the place.
over 60% of US EXIM annual financing budget goes to Boeing!
Sure - Americans can afford new cars.
It's a hybrid so there are all kinds of tax breaks.
Owner-financed leverage. Bullish for Boeing, except when everybody stops paying.
update for news and casualties from french news
4 dead - 10 injured
Train number eoz Paris-Limoges (Haute-Vienne) 3657
4 cars lying down out of seven
4 dead, 10 critically injured 60 injured
still a lot of injured people in jammed cars
electrocuted and / or crushed people.
But Boeing FIXED the batteries!!!!
Well not by redesigning them, or removing them, but by drilling some vent holes and moving them a bit further apart. Nothing that addresses the fault with the chemical makeup of the batteries in the fist place.
Boeing should be trading at $20. The class action lawyers are going to have a field day.
I know, right?
Typical MBA managment "spackle the crack" decision.
Caustic explosive batteres running critical systems; what were you dumbfucks thinking?
The weight of the batteries, the fire hazard, and the amount of heat generated not only in the batteries but in the electrical lines carrying all that juice.
DUMB, DUMB, DUMB!!!
What happened to building reliable failsafe equipment?
It looks like the DC3 was the pinnacle of that concept.
I was on a plane when a guys iPhone exploded. Not a fun experience.
I was so thrilled to learn about Boeing putting the same battery about the size of a car in the back of a plane. I kept thinking, who in their right mind would do this, even with safety systems in place.
Its like putting a bomb under your car and taping a fuse to your catalytic converter. Maybe the catalytic converter gets hot enough to light the fuse, or maybe the heat shield does a good enough job of keeping the surface temp down.
"Its like putting a bomb under your car and taping a fuse to your catalytic converter."
Dammit don't give them any ideas!
The Dreamliner is a flying Tesla Roadster.
"Look, Jim, we can save big by getting these batteries from this discount chinese catalog that came in the mail."
"Go for it. Nobody will know."
I would suggest you look up the correlation between CME's and technogenic disasters. Spaceweather might be a place to start with - in relation to Sun's activity and geomagnetic storms, although it doesn't give the full scale of things, I think.
There has been a number of space rockets failures as of lately, as well.
The more complex our transportation system gets - the more vulnerable it is to exogenous factors.
Hightened geomagnetic activity, a product of Sun's activity, often causes people to go apeshit.
Tech also seems to have a higher tendency to go haywire - during a CME impact - and a little after that (when the Earth is just past through a CME). That's just my way of thinking about it, I could be wrong, of course.
We are directly connected to space weather (magnetosphere doesn't fully shield us) and we are prone to its swings.
That is a hard fact, imo, and one yet to be exposed to the masses in full, I'm afraid.
don't forget that mercury is in retrograde
I've been working with carbon fibre and composites for 20 years. Building planes out of it is pure folly. Boeings problems haven't even begun yet...
Carbon fibre and composites are stong, until the first crack. Then you have to replace the entire thing. I would never fly on a patched composite airplane.
Dreamliners, even if they ever do get them to fly agian, are probably only good for five years of service before the composites start to break down to the point that the entire plane needs to be replaced.
When I first saw the Dreamliner, I had visions of them falling from the sky in burning wrecks.
I talked to a guy a few months ago who knew some Alcoa people. They said Alcoa pitched Boeing on an improved aluminum for the 787 before they made the decision to go with carbon fibre. They said the cost and effeciency would be comparable but Boeing wanted carbon fibre. Great stuff until it shatters or like you said when the composites break down.
No experience - but from what I've read - one weak spot and the entire wing/body structure fails catastrophically (?).
Thougt that Ethiopia is one of the poor developing countries. Are they flying new cheap immigrant labourforce to the city ?
Hmmm, the guy who made the Dreamliner a reality sees his planes catch on fire. He goes to Ford and makes a big deal about a new engine designed under his watch that ends up catching on fire.
Coincidence?
Perhaps cutting corners to pump up your stock so you can profit off selling insider shares isn't a good overall business strategy.
Or maybe he's just a pyromaniac.
too soon
Buy the crash, sell smooth sailing.
So, time to short the stock of their suppliers? Who might those be?
Who, besides 'COL'?
CNBS will take the sword again. Jim Assclown Cramer harms investments by destroying Capitalism.
Published: Wednesday, 26 Jun 2013 | 6:28 PM ET | Boeing
As a retired production engineer for a major defense contractor, I predict IT'S THE BATTERIES still. The fix was ridiculous, typical.
It's confirmed the 16 year old girl from Asian 214 was lying on the ground covered in fire foam when she was run over by the firetruck.
Nightmare liner. Might as well numbered Boeing 1313.
According to BOEING, the problem is fixed and there won't be any more fires.
I hope the guy choked off on those words.
http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1280613
What a fucking moron.
OMG! ... mind blowing ... this is going well past mere teething troubles.
Ok, so another coronal mass ejection (CME) was due to hit the magnetosphere today.
Coincidence?
Looks like all that Boeing money went into Amazon. UPS warns, consumer confidence wanes and Amazon makes new high at 307. Not bad for a Company that might make $1.20 this year.
With all this commotion happening in 'liberal socialist' places, hiw much longer until Obama jumps on board and makes us take trains into the airport to fly on Boeing planes? He can use TSA and Homeland Security to ban cars near airports... And Boeing is a big Obama campaign contributor. And more train traffic wouldn't hurt Uncle Warren either.