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The Public Responds To Zimmerman Verdict
A jury of six women found neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman not guilty of all charges on Saturday in the shooting of Trayvon Martin. Here are some quotes from key figures involved in the case. From the AP:
"We're ecstatic with the results. George Zimmerman was never guilty of anything except protecting himself in self-defense."
— Mark O'Mara, one of George Zimmerman's attorneys, said at a news conference after the verdict.
"Even though I am broken hearted my faith is unshattered. I WILL ALWAYS LOVE MY BABY TRAY"
— Trayvon Martin's father, Tracy Martin, via Twitter
"The acquittal of George Zimmerman is a slap in the face to the American people but it is only the first round in the pursuit of justice. We intend to ask the Department of Justice to move forward as they did in the Rodney King case and we will closely monitor the civil case against Mr. Zimmerman. I will convene an emergency call with preachers tonight to discuss next steps and I intend to head to Florida in the next few days."
— the Rev. Al Sharpton
"Message from Dad: "Our whole family is relieved". Today... I'm proud to be an American. God Bless America! Thank you for your prayers!
— George Zimmerman's brother, Robert, said in Twitter
"I don't think this is a time for high-fiving."
— Robert Zimmerman Jr., George's brother, on CNN after the verdict.
In photos from ABC:
And then there is this:
CHICAGO POLICE RESPONDING TO DALEY PIZZA FOR A LARGE AND VIOLENT CROWD GATHERING AFTER GEORGE ZIMMERMAN VERDICT. #911BUFF
— 911 Operator (@911BUFF) July 14, 2013
MULTIPLE REPORTS OF COPS STORMING THE STREETS IN MIAMI RIGHT NOW AFTER GEORGE ZIMMERMAN VERDICT. #911BUFF
— 911 Operator (@911BUFF) July 14, 2013
NBC REPORTS ANTI WAR AND ANTI RACISM ACTIVIST GROUPS CALLS FOR EMERGENCY RALLY IN SAN FRANCISCO TONIGHT TO PROTEST GEORGE ZIMMERMAN VERDICT.
— 911 Operator (@911BUFF) July 14, 2013
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The jury avoided the inclusion of emotional response. They did the absolute correct thing.
Zimmerman is not the aggressor. If I follow you down the street on a dark night for 5 blocks, are you allowed to suddenly turn around and attack me? No. Martin didn't deserve to be followed, nor did he deserve to be killed. But had he NOT been killed, he'd have faced assault and battery charges.
Where, in that equation, is Zimmerman a criminal?
He's allowed to carry a gun. He's allowed to use it to defend himself. He was attacked, and the claim "he provoked it" is not an excuse to label him a criminal except in the most confused of minds.
Come follow me for 5 blocks. It's annoying as hell, but I'm not going to attack you. It's worth noting Martin confronted Zimmerman, not vice versa. But in your mind, which knows less about the law and even less about what actually happened, you can create whatever 'facts' you'd like and claim them to be the truth. Since we can only work with the information which is available, the evidence is such that Zimmerman made a bad and stupid choice to follow Martin, and that led to tragic results. This is unfortunate, but is not criminal.
Just because emotionally you believe it to be so does not make it so. Emotions are misleading and lie to us.
. "The jury avoided the inclusion of emotional response."
Democracy. You're talking about Democracy.
If the glove don't fit U must acquit .......... until the POTUS and AGOUS take sides. How fucking tragic is all this shit?
zimmerman stalks martin. they get in a fight. apparently zimmerman is in a losing position and draws his gun to defend himself. he is not a trained cop with a badge. he is told to stand down by the 911 operator. there is NO crime being committed by martin. zimmerman shot and killed an innocent man because he was losing a fight which he instigated. cops get away with this all the time. now, apparently can vigilantes.
Yes, cops see a pick-up truck that might look similar to a blue truck they want, so they just open fire on it. No matter it was the wrong color and was driven by two asian ladies. Cops see someone holding a water hose nozzle and think it might be a gun so they shoot him. Cops try to enter my yard and the family dog begins barking at them so they shoot the dog in cold blood... I say carrying a deadly weapon requires the owner to take special responsibility. Unfortunitly, it seems the law & the majority of the voters here on ZH don't agree.
my hope is more of us become G zimmerman, a lot of trash needs tak'n out. sarc. the real secret is out..some people got guns now punks guess which one's..better do your crimes in gun free zones good hunting.
there is NO crime being committed by martin.
Umm sorry, but last time I checked, violent assault is a crime. But don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant. Carry on.
If we keep talking about this, we don't have to face the fact that we are bankrupt.
or trying to help israel take over the middle east
When would Trayvon have stopped using George's head on the sidewalk like a Basketball? What were Trayvon's future aspirations? How was Trayvon going to contribute to our society seeing as how he could not even make it through a very diluted version of High School? Where is all of the outrage with all of the Black on Black hate crime that goes on every second here and in "Mother Africa"?
Don't attack folks who may be armed. It doesn't always work out for you.
Don't attack anyone ...
And everyone capable should be armed, to back up the first sentence.
The punks are everywhere out there. Fortunatley, most of them are killing each other or are about to be in jail. If I found a pattern of these punks invading my neighborhood, I would do exactly the same thing. Sad part is that this kid looked like he might have made it, but odds are he would be dead in 3-5 years anyway one way or another
Oh yeah Black on Black crime is another White Lie. Here you go I present you with one of many cities... http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3561407. Now get out and protest this.
Goddammit, it's 8:14 here and WHERE ARE MY RIOTS YOU FUCKIN CHIMPANZEES? I've been waiting for THE EXCUSE for soooooo long, and you shuckin and jivin diddy boppin loudmouths promised me some riots.
Get busy.
Thorvald Thorvaldson killed a farmer in Norway. Thorvald was shipped off to Iceland. Eric the Red was born because Thorvald continued to live even after he had committed a homicide. Thorvald was given another chance, not prison.
Eric the Red, a young farmer in Iceland, loaned a shovel to a neighboring farmer. When Eric asked the farmer to return the shovel, the farmer refused. Eric wrestled the shovel from the farmer, hit him over the head with it and the farmer died.
Eric the Red was forced to set to sea, ended up in Greenland and built a good farm there. Greenland was a much warmer place in 1000 CE and was said to be warmer than Norway at the time.
Greenland was discovered because Thorvald Thorvaldson killed another farmer.
Probably time for beer.
Might be good and better to raise tolerances instead of foment discord.
Where is Sharpton's and all the brothas outrage on Tamerlan and Todashev ?
Some say rayciss....I say ignorance.
Let's be real. If Trayawn was killed by a black, this would not even be on the news. You can't have it both ways.
I'm out.
I'm neither happy nor unhappy with the verdict.
Zimmerman isn't a racist (1/4 black) nor is he a criminal. He just fucked up, pure and simple. The law doesn't allow him to pursue anyone, but it doesn't allow anyone to take a swing at anyone who is following you.
Martin didn't deserve to die, but that's not what the trial was about. The trial was about whether nor not he killed Martin in cold blood, and that is almost definitely NOT what happened, except when you inject emotion into the equation.
A tragic event which, thankfully for the jury's verdict, avoided further tragic consequences. Two wrongs don't make a right.
That's not true. There is no law in Florida that says you can not follow somebody in public. It's not a crime to follow someone. Omara talked at length about that in his final argument. It made perfectly good sense for Zimmerman(a neighborhood watchman) to follow a strange person in his crime ridden neighborhood to see what they were doing and to inform the police. Trayvon had plenty of time to get home. Trayvon didn't call the police. Trayvon decided to go "worldstar" on that creepy ass cracker and unfortunately lost his life. Mabye this incident will save future lives. People will think twice about fighting. The other person just might have a gun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLd0W1QmuKA
I hope they indict that special prosecutor. The State did everything they could to try to put an innocent man in jail for 20 years or more for only political reasons. It's shameful. Just like that poor youtube video guy that's in jail because of Obama's and Hillary's Benghazi debacle. This country doesn't need more political prisoners. Thanks to the jury, we're not a full blown banana republic yet.
Following someone is not the same as starting a fight. Likely the kid felt confident against this "cracker" as he called him and started the PHYSICAL confrontation. I guess georgie boy could have tried to run away but very likely would have been caught by the kid. He was a kid right? Every photo I have ever seen of him seems like I would not trust him to operate my lawn mower he looks so young. Sorry to say you live by the kung fu you just might die by one of the many hollow points that got lost in inventory. Sorry to say.
Some of yoose may have recently followed some hot babe for a few minutes -- was your intent to kill or drool? Lots of possibilities.
spank
Sorry a life was lost. This was a race motivated case at least in part when one of the kids used the CRACKER verbage. Don't forget that 95% voting block thingy. Divide and conquer from the radical streets of Chicago and Kenya safari.
Can we all just get along?
Even Alan Dershowitz is calling for the prosecutors to be disbarred.....
Aren't these the very same people who come out to see the Leprechaun in Crichton, Alabama??
Errrybody see the Leprechaun say yeahhh!
Errrybody who th'ank dis cracka iz guilty's say yeahhhh!!
African Americans shoot other African Americans at such a high rate, and so many African Americans are in prison, that it appears incomprehensible to the "community" of activists that there were facts or law involved in this case.
Incomprehensible that Zimmerman was not convicted, even if Trayvon had broken his nose, and was on top of him beating his head into the curb ... that Trayvon had transgressed anything.
The blacks in America think they are forever oppressed by evil whitey. Even if it's your grandkid that isn't even born yet.
And the Jews know this, and use this as a weapon against whitey for fun.
And, as we now see, Mexicans are targets as well.
"I have a deream... If I had a son he'd look like Trayvon."
if i had a passport, i'd look like obama?
There is something nobody else seems to have mentioned, i.e. who is crazy enough to charge a guy with a gun? Nobody I know or have ever known.
And who is crazy enough to attack another person when they know the other person may have a gun on them?
Point is Zimmerman was not holding Trayvon at gunpoint or threatening him with the gun when the fight happened.
Point is that Zimmerman is and was a soft, noodle armed chump. Wouldn't it have crossed his mind that getting close enough to wrastle, punch or grab Trayvon would put him in more danger than keeping his distance?Trayvon could have grabbed the gun and turned it on him at any point if he got the upper hand. That's a big chance to take.
Zimmerman was a wannabe cop, yeah, but even a wannabe cop knows better than to let a potentially violent "suspect" come within arm's length of their piece without drawing down and ordering them to raise their hands.
He didn't have cuffs, he was on his own, in the dark. is this guy that brave or that dumb? Maybe the latter by definitely not the former.
The pro-Trayvon narrative (entirely speculative) just doesn't jive. Whatever happened, whatever words were said, I think the evidence points clearly to the fact that Trayvon attacked Zimmerman and beat his ass, which resulted in Zimmerman going for his gun, Trayvon seeing that and going for it too and then BANG. Legally, that is self defense.
Tueller
So I googled "Tueller", as in "Tueller Drill" but not sure what you mean to imply? That Zimmerman was luring Trayvon in so he could shoot him down? Or something else? There is eye witness testimony that the two men were on the ground fighting, that is undisputed, and the witness stated that he strongly believed it was Zimmerman on the bottom getting the worst of it (evidence supports this too). So even if Zimmerman had the "Tueller Drill" in mind why would he have let Trayvon get close enough to grapple with him? To make sure he got away with it? Sure, possible, but it's still a huge risk to take, and not just with the law, but his own life.
Even if you leave off all the injury evidence (some of it could be self inflicted after all) why would Zimmerman give Trayvon the chance to take his piece? Only one shot was fired. The two were clearly inches away when the shot was fired so we're back to my original question. If Zimmerman pulled the piece moments before Trayvon grabbed him (very risky since he was a fat, weak POS) then how come he didn't shoot him then? Are you saying he waited and wrestled with Trayvon, maybe let him hit him a little and then shot him? It's possible but that would be a flat out psychotic, mephistolean plan executed on the spot and with tremendous presence of mind and self control. The wild speculation that Zimmerman is in fact Hannibal Lecter has been bandied about a little but I think it's more fantasy than anything else.
My point, in part, was an apparent lack of knowledge on Zimmerman's part on how fast an attacker can close.
Until Zimmerman's head was being pounded on the sidewalk, I don't see lethal force as a justifiable response, but I know nothing really of the case. Taser perhaps, but not familiar with FL law.
"very risky since he was a fat, weak POS" I would urge caution in letting your prejudices or preconceptions color your objectivity, especially in life or death situations. It will be seen and used against you, I guarantee it. After all, it is Zimmerman who is still alive.
OK, point taken, but I think what he did was both stupid and sh*tty, Trayvon didn't deserve to die, even if he instigated a fight. Hence "POS". Having said that, I support the legal verdict on both counts, given the evidence it was the only one they could have come to if they followed the law. As for Zimmerman being "fat and weak" that is not my opinion, but the opinion of one of the witnesses who testified in court. He was the owner of a gym where Zimmerman trained and his opinion was that Zimmerman was "fat and weak", mostly blubber, no muscle and not much of a fighter... and that was BEFORE he put on all the extra weight he was wearing at the trial. I can't quote him verbatim but I think I remember him (the witness) testifying that they were afraid to let him shadow box because the shadow might win... or something to that effect.
Seeing all of those racist negroes sniveling and moaning makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
How did racist negroes judge Trayvon based on the content of his character, and NOT on the color of his skin?
MLK would be sickened to know that blacks are now more racist than whites ever were.
Stealing jewelry, spray painting lockers, being suspended from school for more than 60 days, making "lean", attacking bus drivers, fighting, attacking creepy assed crackas, flashing gang signs and pictures of yoself on Facebook, and calling yoself nolimitnigga are the things that constitute the type of character which sits atop the envy of most blacks.
They judged him by his character. They sure would have called him an uncle Tom, or a sellout if he spoke correctly and was an academic success. They love him because he represents the black thug culture.
Treyvon was keeping it real.
Real fucking stupid.
I love a happy ending!
Man they killed radio raheem!!!! wreck the pizza joint!
Neighborhood watch groups disbanding all over country. Eric Holder is excited to level the playing field to put citizens on their own!!!
Ah yes, we get to see the theatrical emotional displays that are turned on and off like a light switch, yet FBI and Bureau of Justice data illuminate the fact that blacks are massively overrepresented(94%) in brutally murdering each other, not to mention others, on a daily basis. Maybe they should protest themselves.
Again:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/04/09/race-wars-part-1-the-shocking-data-on-black-on-black-crime/
"Black-on-black murders surpass the number of people killed by the KKK every six months."
"Sixx said in 2011 more than 7,000 black people were killed; he said the KKK killed 3,446 blacks in 86 years."
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/190868061.html
theblaze isn't exactly a non-partisan source.
If anything, now that this is done, george zimmerman should get revenge on the MSM and politicians whom decided to stir the pot with race baiting by filing suit against them. These people whom played political football with another man's life should never be allowed in their positions again, due to the abuses of power. We as a society cannot tolerate this type of behavior or else we as a CIVIL SOCIETY are doomed. Forget about all the progress that has been made over the last 2000 years.
Is there such a thing as a civil offense fund?
This could redefine "class-action" lawsuits. A whole class of attorneys filling briefs on behalf of a single plaintiff.
Booyah. Must watch court teevee.
Hilarious avatar BTW! Not sure. It is pretty scary though, that government attorneys in this country have a 99% conviction rate. I personally thought that george zimmerman would be made a political prisoner, but it would seem at least this time, that cool heads have prevailed. Even after the judge tried to skew the trial in the prosecutions favor.
FZ would have had a field day with the circus we live in. But he did try to give us aheads up.
No one "hunted down anybody.." Despite the illegal actions of the Government, the Judge, the Prosecution, they could not railroad Zimmerman... because he was innocent of all charges. But, they will get him in the end with a Civil Rights (SIC) charge.
As for all you other racists, maybe the rest of America will resist being murdered by the NBP thugs....
Zimmerman should do like the facebook founder, and just get the hell out of the US. Leave this pig behind, and let the alpha monkeys running things fall on their own sword(and they will as empires do!). It seems to me that this country is no longer a rule of law, but of pig men that try to manipulate law.
The only rule of law that exists in America today is "JUST US" for the .01% like corzine which is why the .01% went after "the distraction" Zimmerman led by obummer and eric "PLACE" holder. Both of them being murderers of a white ATF agent. Thank god "JUSTICE" prevailed in this case. Now it's time to overthrow our LAWLESS and TRAITOROUS federal government....ALL of them...repu-LIE-CON and democ-RAT.
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You know it's telling when people start seeking political asylum from the US Government.
We're there d0od.
Reverend Money... Jesse Jackson is worth $600 million dollars.
Jury trials are one of the few things still separating us from the barbarians.
Well, until they start getting picked for jury duty. They already run the place.
I missed the entire drama. Not watch TV for six months and miss out on trial of the year.
Who are these fuckers? What are they upset about?
This isn't the 60s anymore. They get free everything, paid for by me. They live in the wealthiest country in the history of the world. Not a one of them has anything to do with Trayvon Martin.
Fuck em. Why can't they just go home and get on with things like the rest of us.
Fuck them and all of their media whore enablers. May they rot in hell.
Are you all now convinced that nothing will ever appease them? Do you not understand that your children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren will be forever guilty, and forever paying reparations until the end of time?
It's never going to end, never going to end until this whole thing comes down.
This is why I look forward to the collapse. The very people protesting, will be the ones starving to death when the EBT cards stop working.
Then they will have something to complain about. Too bad for them that by then, everybody else will be too screwed to care.
I see a lot of pretty pink Obama phones in the crowd.
I, on the other hand, will drink to the verdict. I'll hold a small private celebration. Nothing fancy, and nothing to report to the media.
We have to celebrate the little victories, that's all that's left for us because the big victories aren't there anymore.
I see lots of current or future diabetics.
And they cheered the OJ verdict.
So few here {if any} really understand what this was all about. Someone said something yesterday that sums this whole thing up rather well:"If only Zimmerman had used his mother's maiden name, we would have never even heard about this event. In Chicago, black/black shootings, and black/hispanic shootings happen about ten times a day, every day. But because Zimmerman was classified and reported as white early on in the media coverage, it became what it is today. This whole story was created to serve some purpose". BINGO! Someone give that man a cigar. Now, what that purpose could be, you will get diffferant opinions. Make no mistake, the gubmint WANTS RIOTS. The bigger, bloodier and widespread the better. They have toys to try out. They want cover to clamp down the jaws of the police state. Overturn liberties. Do you think for a minute they really give a shit about Zimmerman or Martin? WAKE UP! Sadly, this is not going to just go away. We have not heard the last of this, there is too much hay to be made with it.
"There is nothing more painful to me than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery, then to look around and see someone white and feel relieved. "
Jesse Jackson, 1993