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As US Ships Approach, US Embassy In Egypt Denies Move Presages "Imminent US Invasion"

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With the situation in Egypt continuing to border on sheer chaos, many wonder what approach the US will take, so far having demonstrated its inability to decide how to swallow the humiliation of having a US-backed regime get swept away in a military coup while it continues supporting the country with both money and weapons. But while the State Department dithers, its head busy boating somewhere off the coast of Massachussetts, the US military is not wasting much time, and appears to be amassing a naval presence just off the coast of Egypt. No need to worry, though: Egypt's Ahram reports that "the US Embassy in Egypt denied Saturday that US naval vessels near Egypt's shores are sent in preparation for military action. A top Marine Corps general said Thursday that two US marine vessels approached Egypt's Red Sea shore, raising concerns in the Egyptian media about an imminent military move."

"We deny false claims in the Egyptian press that US naval ships are in the vicinity of the Arabian Peninsula and the Suez Canal to militarily invade Egypt," read a statement issued on the US embassy's website.

Alas, since the US lately does not have a great track record with either telling the truth, or being honest about which country it is about to "militarily invade", one can see why ordinary Egyptians, who have no idea on whose side the US is currently, may be worried.

More from Ahram:

The statement  went on to say that the United States regularly deploys forces near the Arabian Peninsula and that US vessels regularly pass through Egypt's Suez Canal en route to the Indian Ocean or the Mediterranean Sea.


US Marine Corps officials said the two ships, part of a three-ship amphibious readiness group, has been in the region since May, patrolling the Red Sea, Horn of Africa, the Gulf and the Arabian Sea. The third ship is offshore Bahrain.


They went on to assert there were no new orders to prepare for a possible conflict in Egypt.


Moving amphibious ships closer to the coast would enable easier movement of helicopters and other equipment, if needed in a country  now in ferment, navy officials said.

The US Embassy's full statement can be found here. The Pentagon Press Sec went one better and called all such reports "absolutely wrong"

Using biblical logic, all that is needed to confirm an imminent invasion of Egypt would be just one more denial.

Joking aside, it is a given that preserving the Suez Canal is of paramount importance for the US, if not so much for a quick transit access for cargo between the Mediterranean and the Indian Ocean, but to preserve access to the US 5th Naval Fleet based in Bahrain. Because once that is cut off, there goes quick and easy naval support for Israel operations in and around Iran.

Finally, it appears that the marine fleet in question currently parked by Egypt is the LHD-3 Kearsarge which has a fleet of helicopters and 2000 marines on board, and which was by the Suez two weeks ago, and which as recently as this Wednesday was located by the Straits of Hormuz according to the latest Stratfor Naval map. The same Kearsarge that played a key role in the Libyan coup two years ago.


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Sat, 07/13/2013 - 13:48 | 3748437 FreedomGuy
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This is the problem when you take sides in the chaotic Middle East. I say stand aside and let them sort it out in each country.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:02 | 3748491 IridiumRebel
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Yep, gotta jam our dick into all things ME. 

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:03 | 3748495 Skateboarder
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Alex, I'll take "What's the difference between jelly and jam?" for $400.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:35 | 3748627 WmMcK
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Jello moves when you eat it.

Oops, confused jelly with jello and jam with JAP.

Too much alcohol too quickly.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:41 | 3748652 mjcOH1
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Religion of peace.

Amphibious assault ships of peace.


It's all good.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 15:02 | 3748749 FreedomGuy
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Soooo this is what a Nobel Peace Prize looks like?

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 16:13 | 3748957 jbvtme
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where is the usa getting the resources to fight all these wars?

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 17:04 | 3749103 stock trout
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Look in the mirror while holding your kids and grandkids. 

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 19:08 | 3749346 Meat Hammer
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Upside down by their ankles

Sun, 07/14/2013 - 08:19 | 3750885 TheAntiGov
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Not too much longer

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 16:06 | 3748938 smlbizman
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all u guys jump to so many wrong conclusions....if u did any reasearch, u would find that the red snapper run has started there.....

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 17:46 | 3749193 asteroids
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Good fuking grief. Half the world was destabalized when the Chairsatan went on his lunatic policy of rates to zero and commodatiy prices to the moon. This is the direct cause of the "Arab Spring".  Now Obozo wants to make it 10 times worse by sending in the Marines? What a clusterfuck. These people have no sense of reality. Their luck will run out some day.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 18:25 | 3749275 e_goldstein
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No need to be concerned, it's just the leading wedge of John Kerry's yacht club flotilla.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:47 | 3748664 FinalCollapse
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Any US invasion of Egypt (even limited in scope) would be an act of unbelievable stupidity. It will not work - as simple as that.

This would be interesting to watch if Egypt closed the Suez Canal to US military: what the pussy in WH would do? 

Do we really need our military over there??? It's not about oil supplies to US - we import less and can get the rest from Canada and other non-ME countries.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 15:06 | 3748765 FreedomGuy
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I prefer the humorous comments but to be serious, we actually always have ships in that region. They are naturally going to move towards any conflicts we want to watch. What is important is what we DO. I am not sure what message we would want to send or if we might be prepared to evacuate embassies (preferably before they are burned down and everyone killed this time) in the event of chaos, but I would be careful not to overread the situation.

Our problem is the unpredictability of our fearless leader, Barry and his Secretary of State, Lurch. Who the hell really knows what they will do and why?

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 15:29 | 3748840 FinalCollapse
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I prefer the humorous comments too - they are much more effective. Sadly, this time around I couldn't come up with anything funny. While I agree with you that they are likely getting ready to evacuate the embassies, at the same time I worry about the unlimitted ability of 'O' to screw everything up. Each time I think we hit the bottom, Obozo suprises me.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 15:51 | 3748905 Pain Train
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Wayyy too much hand wringing here about an American "invasion of Egypt." The US military assets are being moved in to do one thing and one thing make sure there are no monkeyshines, tomfoolery, or shenanigans regarding the Suez Canal. PERIOD. 

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 22:35 | 3749808 Bringin It
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Right, because the owners need it that way.

Joking aside, it is a given that preserving the Suez Canal is of paramount importance for the US, if not so much for a quick transit access for cargo between the Mediterranean and the Indian Ocean, but to preserve access to the US 5th Naval Fleet based in Bahrain. Because once that is cut off, there goes quick and easy naval support for Israel operations in and around Iran.

Sick. Sick Sick.  Die bankster empire die.

Sun, 07/14/2013 - 13:35 | 3751671 Freedom Isnt Cheap
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When I was in the Navy back in the late 80's early 90's on an aircraft carrier it was always nerve racking transiting the Suez Canal and we were always put on high alert general quarters. We crammed as many aircraft into the hangers (F-14's in my day) and shut the hanger doors to protect them. We would be so close you could practically jump from the flight deck to the ground and we worried about grenades, mortars, ect. Our Marines would man the rails with 50 cals. Scary passing through because you feel very vulnerable to attacks. 

Having Marines right now stationed off of Egypts coast is a common sense move should they need to evacuate the Embassy. Best and fastest way to do that is to have Helicopters and Marines close by to fly to the Embassy, load up people, and fly them to the ship.

Evacuating to the airport by driving themselves there would not be an option because at tha point if they have determined to evacuate the Embassy things have gotten to dangerous to drive to the airport and too dangerous for us to have a US plane parked on the tarmack.

Yes, we would never allow the Suez canal to be shut down to us hence why we continue to support the Egyptian military as they at this point rule the country and have the means to shut it down to us.

By the way, has anybody ever checked to see what Egypt charges the US Navy to transit the Suez Canal? Back in the early 90's rumor on my carrier was it was a million dollars one way passage.



Sat, 07/13/2013 - 16:27 | 3748993 otto skorzeny
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it's egypt's canal - let them do what they want with it. I don't care for O but not doing shit beats doing something and fucking it up like the neocon Zionists  like to do.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 16:47 | 3749044 WarriorClass
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The war on America is working very well, why not Egypt?

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 19:11 | 3749349 Meat Hammer
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I'm confused....who are we attacking?

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 23:28 | 3750030 Shell Game
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Any and all threats to the Petrodollar.  For example, all who would trade goods/services for precious metals....................oh shit.

Sun, 07/14/2013 - 01:16 | 3750424 Prometheus the ...
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Never stick your dick in crazy.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 16:09 | 3748940 Winston Smith 2009
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"This is the problem when you take sides in the chaotic Middle East. I say stand aside and let them sort it out in each country."

Which we'd gladly do if it weren't for three things - OIL, Israel (related to OIL), and the Suez Canal.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 13:48 | 3748439 Tinky
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Calling Nassim Taleb.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 13:49 | 3748443 johnconnor
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it doesn't look like a Carnival cruise ship either....

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 13:53 | 3748464 FreedomGuy
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If it is on fire or drifting it might be just a new design.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 13:49 | 3748445 StarTedStackin'
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Obama's most likely turning the ship over to the Muslim Brotherhood, who he has already given billions......

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:41 | 3748649 Spider
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Obama doesnt support the muslim brotherhood - they support the Egyptian military.  They just cant make it seem that way to the Egyptian people b/c they all hate the US.

The Egyptian military aint pulling no coup if the US didnt give them permission - this is all a smokescreen to put the US guys in charge in Egypt because they are all the same military guys from the Mubarak regime...

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:46 | 3748680 gmrpeabody
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"Obama doesnt support the muslim brotherhood"

That's your first miscalculation...

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 15:09 | 3748774 ziggy59
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Someone in the Navy is getting married, invitation only.....yeah..thats invasion if we were there already...
These assholes sending our military to other countries need to be stopped before anymore innocent populations get 'visited'...

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 15:49 | 3748901 Kirk2NCC1701
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Morsi gave Iran passage thru Suez Canal for access to Mediterran and Atlantic. And access to Syria and Hezbollah.

Bibi and TPTB are very unhappy. This is now being corrected via 2nd Spring.

Not that I expect it, but don't be too shocked with another Gulf of Tonkin false flag event happens, and we're off to the races.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 16:03 | 3748931 otto skorzeny
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I thought Morsi wanted to send Egyptian military to aid Syrian " rebels" and egypt's army wanted no part of that shit. If that's the case I find it hard to believe Morsi would help out Assad's buddies in Iran. I also think the assholes in Israel and their US neocon flunkies have a grand plan for the 12 tribes to take over more ME territory- plus they get their greedy fucking mits on Iran's oil and NG.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 18:07 | 3749157 Kirk2NCC1701
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I agree 100% on your Big Picture for ME:  Weaken the area, and allow only one country to emerge as undisputed regional super-power.  Which can they dominate or control the energy supply and lanes. 

Until that happens, the US (as the biggest kid in global school yard) can/will continue to run interference or conduct wars of proxy.  [sigh]  Will America ever learn?  Or be allowed to?


p.s.  Here is where I read the Morsi/Suez/Iran article:

pps The osnetdaily site seems to have some very interesting articles, some of them feel a bit like CIA's Psy Ops propaganda.  Just my impression.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 13:50 | 3748448 FreedomGuy
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Is John Kerry there on his yatch actively monitoring the situation, too?

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 13:52 | 3748458 FreedomGuy
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There might be a large tax deduction for using the personal yatch on business with the fleet that could save him big bucks...sort of like using your car for company business, right? Then he could afford to park it back in his home state and pay the leftist taxes.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 13:54 | 3748467 IridiumRebel
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He was seen on his catamaran just off the coast. The yacht is circling. Champagne is iced. 

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:58 | 3748734 FreedomGuy
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Would he have illegal assault weapons on board for security? Check the size of those magazines in the security detail. No need for more than 15 rounds.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 13:59 | 3748484 krispkritter
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No, he'll be leading from behind again, always playing ketchup...

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:16 | 3748533 djsmps
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When will his wife go critical again?

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:31 | 3748609 WmMcK
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Sat, 07/13/2013 - 13:53 | 3748452 Cognitive Dissonance
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Gunboat Diplomacy a la 2013.

<Now where did I put that Big Stick?>

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 19:16 | 3749356 Meat Hammer
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Cog, have you read Imperial Cruise?  I just finished and now have a better understanding of the man that Teddy Roosevelt was not.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 13:55 | 3748453 Yen Cross
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"Imminent US Invasion" of F-16s and F-18 super hornets, for the Egyptian Military to proxy stability, of the Suez canal.

  The spice must flow!

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 13:51 | 3748454 Payne
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Landing Marines would make matters worse not better.  If you think Afganistan looks bad wait to see how bad we can screw this up too.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 13:56 | 3748473 Cognitive Dissonance
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"If you think Afganistan looks bad wait to see how bad we can screw this up too."

It does comfort us somewhat to believe that our government is incompetent or just plain stupid. You know, just a bunch of screw ups. Better that than deliberately malicious and personally dangerous.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:12 | 3748515 Yen Cross
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 Who ever junked you must work for Tesla/Boeing.  That was a great comment!

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:14 | 3748518 RockyRacoon
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There are factions of both the incompetent and the malicious in our gov't.  Problems are two: 1. Which is working for which, and, 2. Seeing what the outcome differences are from either.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:30 | 3748593 shovelhead
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I vote for both.

Stupid and incompetent relieves my anxiety about them being malicious and dangerous and I stay on an even keel with my level of disgust.

Volatility is tiring.


Sat, 07/13/2013 - 16:01 | 3748927 amusedobserver
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Stupid, definitely.

"We deny false claims in the Egyptian press...."  therefore admitting the claims are true!

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 15:08 | 3748773 Things that go bump
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What is to prevent them from being maliciously stupid.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 15:31 | 3748853 Long-John-Silver
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I thought that was SOP (Standard Operating Procedure).

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 15:57 | 3748916 DosZap
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Landing Marines would make matters worse not better. If you think Afganistan looks bad wait to see how bad we can screw this up too.

Amen,just what we need another frioggin Trashcanistan,has this admin not gotten t he message, you do not WIN other nations civil wars?,when your opponents do not care if they die, you will never,ever,ever win!,are 6000++++ dead American soldiers and countless civies enough?.Can't even AFFORD to take care of them when they are maimed for life, and will not in most cases.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 13:52 | 3748455 Missiondweller
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Not a surprise. The Suez Canal is an important waterway and the US Navy's usual role is to maintain commerce (oil) and open waterways.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:34 | 3748625 disabledvet
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Phuck the Suez canal. Phuck the middle east. Phuck the war on terror. Phuck Israel. Phuck the oil bullshit. Phuck Goldman Sachs. Phuck the media. did I miss anything? thank God for Elon Musk. thank God for Tesla. thank God for Amazon. thank God for netflix thank God for oracle and Larry Ellison. thank God for North Dakota and that Hamm dude. I will be voting for the Governor of North Dakota for President should he run although I really like our kid from Kentucky and our wild man from Florida. and stop bankrupting the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marine Corps! we all already know "the war" is going through an adjustment phase. needless to say those Branches of Service and those Service Chiefs aren't going anywhere. EVER. (that's a nice way of say all of us will be doing the adjusting around "it.")

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 15:43 | 3748880 Long-John-Silver
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Ask the British how well they did the last time they took control of the Suez.

It was that event that let everyone know the British Empire was at it's end.  If the USA gets involved the same thing will happen to them. Some of US already know the American Empire has peaked and is in rapid decline but getting tangled in this web will signal everyone the USA is just a paper tiger and they will come after it with lit torches.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 16:12 | 3748951 Winston Smith 2009
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"Ask the British how well they did the last time they took control of the Suez.

It was that event that let everyone know the British Empire was at it's end.  If the USA gets involved the same thing will happen to them."

What, someone will stop us in the way we stopped the Brits and the French?  We aren't that far gone... yet.  

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 17:27 | 3749163 Long-John-Silver
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The Brits thought they were still in control and "not that far gone" as well.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 18:15 | 3749251 cosmictrainwreck
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ya mean they knew how to "spin" a story even back then?? ha! methinks it may be an old tradition among the power/gummint/elite whatevers...

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 21:09 | 3749572 Winston Smith 2009
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Nah, the Brits had already lost their entire empire by the time the little Suez thing came up.  I highlighted the most interesting bit:

"In July 1956, Nasser unilaterally nationalised the Suez Canal. The response of Anthony Eden, who had succeeded Churchill as Prime Minister, was to collude with France to engineer an Israeliattack on Egypt that would give Britain and France an excuse to intervene militarily and retake the canal.[176] Eden infuriated US President Dwight D. Eisenhower, by his lack of consultation, and Eisenhower refused to back the invasion.[177] Another of Eisenhower's concerns was the possibility of a wider war with the Soviet Union after it threatened to intervene on the Egyptian side. Eisenhower applied financial leverage by threatening to sell US reserves of the British pound and thereby precipitate a collapse of the British currency.[178] Though the invasion force was militarily successful in its objectives,[179] UN intervention and US pressure forced Britain into a humiliating withdrawal of its forces, and Eden resigned.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 22:52 | 3749883 Bringin It
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Winston - Funny you can't see the analogy.  Lot's of people can and will be dumping treasuries.

The US is in retreat Y/N? 

They're chopping up armor in Afgahnistan to sell for pennies on the pound, just so they can get out of Dodge before the FRN dies.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 13:52 | 3748456 IridiumRebel
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I'm going to compile a list of all the things we could do to further undermine our international standing because I believe at this point that those in power are trying to turn us from world police into world asshole. 

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 13:56 | 3748474 Yen Cross
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  Thanks for your kind comment on another thread IridiumRebel.    Back at you+1

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 13:58 | 3748479 IridiumRebel
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it was a great post. Credit where credit is due, sir. 

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:02 | 3748493 Yen Cross
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    Let's keep it informal. 'YEN' is fine.  BTW, I've learned reams of great ideas from you.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:04 | 3748496 IridiumRebel
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I always liked your posts...pucker up buttercup! Call me IR, Yen.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:05 | 3748502 Yen Cross
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  IR it is.  I'm still laughing...

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 15:05 | 3748697 gmrpeabody
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Get a room...


Sat, 07/13/2013 - 16:21 | 3748978 Yen Cross
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  I didn't junk you.  Pee<Body   Hows that basement treating you?

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 16:48 | 3749049 viahj
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Skype it

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:06 | 3748503 greatbeard
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>> from world police into world asshole.

Them damn baby boomers are at it again.  Oh, if only Gen (X or Y or Z) were in control.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:43 | 3748662 Conchy Joe
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They played their part when they voted. The USA doubling down on assholeness is on them as well.

They Hoped that we could Change into a MEGA-DICKHEAD-NATION

Forward Comrades!


Sun, 07/14/2013 - 01:54 | 3750537 gdogus erectus
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"I believe at this point that those in power are trying to turn us from world police into world asshole. "

All by design. Get the rest of the world (and even ourselves) to think that we are fat, lazy arrogant, stupid people that deserve what we get when UN troops fire on us during Marshall law. Same reason for Snowden's calculated leaks. Piss off our friends. Next thing they'll do is drain America's gold to make sure we can't play in the new gold backed currency game thats' coming....

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 13:52 | 3748459 Drachma
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Looks like another nobel peace prize awaiting the peace-loving Obama.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 18:13 | 3749245 Kirk2NCC1701
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And our best friends in the Galaxy are preemptively busy with mine-sweeper exercises:

"US officials have revealed that explosions reported at a key Syrian port on July 5 were likely the result of an Israeli airstrike."


Sat, 07/13/2013 - 23:32 | 3750050 Bringin It
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RT says Israel is smoozing with GazProm re. their offshore gaz deposits.

We're gonna get dumped like the girl at the prom with crossed-eyes and two left feet.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 13:57 | 3748470 W74
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The US has nowhere near the power projection ability with which to threaten other countries than it used to.

Everyone knows exactly what we're capable of, and exactly what we're capable of sustaining (i.e. there's no more "Mistique" about our armed forces anymore).  The world also knows the American public's increasing war-weariness and that any forays from here on out will not go over well politically for any administration.

The world may well have thought that Vietnam was a fluke, and that the American Military could (and did) continue to project power...but no longer.  We've shot our load and no one is scared anymore, at least not for the geopolitical long haul.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:08 | 3748507 greatbeard
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>> no one is scared anymore, at least not for the geopolitical long haul.

When it comes to getting your ass blown off, the short haul is all that matters to most people.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:24 | 3748571 disabledvet
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I agree with W74. no one is scared of America's big mouth anymore. we yell and scream but only take the stick to our own people. (that includes an Ambassador btw.) unless and until a threat that is made and acted upon from without instead of within no one will take the USA seriously. indeed "they appear to be retaliating." as was famously said in Search for the Grail RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY!

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:45 | 3748675 greatbeard
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>> unless and until a threat that is made and acted upon

Did you happen to miss Iraq, Afghanistan and a few other places the US has visited lately?  I don't think anybody underestimates the US's willingness or ability to open up a case of whoop ass.  Now, having said whoop ass be in the US's best interest, that's another story.  But when you, and your wife, and your children, and your country, are blown all to shit, with radio active waste strewn about, worrying about whether it was wise for the US to expend money and resources it can't afford to expend, for little return, is not a priority.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 15:06 | 3748762 disabledvet
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we have LOST everyone of those engagements. I do agree "the Death Star is fully operational" however. forward to George Zimmerman! evil incarnate!

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 15:22 | 3748825 greatbeard
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>> we have LOST everyone of those engagements.

I can think of a hundred thousand or so dead Iraqi civilians who that little fact really doesn't matter to.  When your country and your family are obliterated, does who won really matter?

>> George Zimmerman! evil incarnate!

WTF does Zimmerman have to do with American military might?  Zimmerman is a low end POS who could have well avoided the cesspool of shit he's currently immersed in.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:55 | 3748726 mjcOH1
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"Everyone knows exactly what we're capable of, and exactly what we're capable of sustaining (i.e. there's no more "Mistique" about our armed forces anymore). "

Overthrow of a seated government with a proxy militia and 1000 troops on the ground?   War of attrition for 10 years with most of the body count racked up by robot aircraft from 2000ft?  All paid for by $1trillion in bonds sold to China and Japan that will ultimately be repaid with a currency whose value depends on the rate at which the presses run while the Bernank makes the appropriate accounting ledger entries?

Yep....everybody will be lining up for their shot at that.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 15:12 | 3748787 disabledvet
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yep. pretty much. "long North Dakota Crude." don't underestimate their sophistication either. Bismark is as real a City as Boston, Atlanta or New York itself. of course unlike all the latter they actually have money and pay their bills. oh, and have a bank that isn't underwater to the tune of "a cool trillion." not an across the board interest rate explosion can't solve right?!

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 15:48 | 3748898 Long-John-Silver
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The USA has left it's Southern Border open for decades. When the shooting war starts the Invisible Army that has invaded and is laying in wait will arise and rain destruction from shore to shore.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:12 | 3748514 dick cheneys ghost
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The Bangladeshi neo-cons want to 'partition' all countries in the ME........and they want to send your kids over there to do the fighting.....

''In February 2012, US Congressman Dana Rohrabacher had introduced a resolution in the US House of Representatives calling upon Pakistan to recognise the Baloch right to self determination.''

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:54 | 3748691 Colonel Klink
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I'm not so sure we know the full capability of our military.  There's an awful lot of nasty shit in the pipeline with regards to weapons.  Remember deficits don't matter and neither do the American people's opinion.  Government now does what it's told to do, via other influences.  So where are the limitations again?

I agree with greatbeard.  Short term is all that matters in time of war as well as politics.  Especially when all you have is a few years left on your term until your job comes to an end.  That is unless the traitorous representative in NY gets his proposal approved to remove the term limits on the president.

Recovery is what takes a long time.  We're good at going in and fucking up a country, then leaving the rest to a devastated people.  All the while the MIC, banksters, and those making the decisions are getting rich.

Any questions?

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 15:04 | 3748754 Squiddly Diddly
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"The world also knows the American public's increasing war-weariness and that any forays from here on out will not go over well politically for any administration." 

We don't care about stinking public opinion, that's what Homeland Security is for.  We are creating an empire and your gonna like it. It's for the children.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 15:24 | 3748830 yogibear
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Rather than stay out the  US is provoking war. The US may get a lot more than it bargained for. Like China and Russia supporting the opposition side.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 16:16 | 3748967 Winston Smith 2009
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"We've shot our load and no one is scared anymore, at least not for the geopolitical long haul."

Which is why everyone refuses to offer Snowden sanctuary?  The main thing we have left is military power far beyond that of anyone else.  And drones make retaliating against small, "uppity" countries politically easy.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 19:45 | 3749405 W74
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Well I do mean for the truly long haul.  Surely the US will have fits and spasms as it grasps for it's last decades of breath; no one is arguing that.

Remember when that NATO country got invaded 5 years ago? Did we intervene? Did any other NATO power come to that country's aid?  Think about it if you don't know what I'm talking about here.  That very country by the way is aligning itself with the East and North and shying away from Europe and the US.

We're all talk, and, potentially a big expensive show, but for the long haul history's long cycle will not be greatly altered.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 23:50 | 3750120 Bringin It
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It's confusing, but don't confuse the money thing w/ military might.

Those Euro-pols want to keep slurping at the trough.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 13:55 | 3748471 max2205
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I hope they don't use those F 16's against us

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:15 | 3748528 Bad Attitude
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F-16s are just bling for the Egyptian leadership. Hardware does them no good if they don't have the skills to properly employ it.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:59 | 3748737 mjcOH1
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Trying to think of the name of the Dudley Moore movie where competing arms merchants sold jet aircraft to warring tribes.....which rolled them down hills at each other.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 16:23 | 3748980 Winston Smith 2009
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"I hope they don't use those F 16's against us"

Oh, hell no, that's not in the plan.  Here's what happens, as usual:  

Congress gives taxpayer money to the military of some other country.  That military then buys only US military hardware with that money.  Pretty slick, no?  The US military hardware manufacturers simply love it!  

And the reason they officially avoid calling what just happened in Egypt a military coup (which is exactly what it was) is because by US law, aid can't be given and military hardware can't be sold to any military that was involved in a coup.

Get the concept now?

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 13:57 | 3748477 Bear
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I am so glad that we are being led so well. If the Administration were a person our current IQ would be 68 .... Moron at best

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:00 | 3748485 IridiumRebel
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From Forest Gump to Porous Dump.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:28 | 3748588 WmMcK
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From the Monroe Doctrine to the "Dog Lick" doctrine, because we can.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:46 | 3748677 Conchy Joe
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Their decision making system needs tweaking


Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:03 | 3748486 Promethus
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Why on earth would the US want to invade one more turd world shit-hole. If I were president I would have a new doctrine to only invade countries which have 1. good climate; 2. attractive women without bags on their heads; 3. no Muslims; 4. good tourist attractions; 5. can pay their own way; 6. and attractive women without bags on their heads. Russia is a no go because of point 1; France point 3; and Spain point 5. Let's invade New Zealand.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:21 | 3748544 RockyRacoon
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Why on earth would the US want to invade one more turd world shit-hole.

I got yer answer right here:  Because we can.  No other reason needed.  The U. S. must show the rest of the world how mighty it is.  Kinda like the conquest of Granada.  We really kicked some butt there!  And if you think that's exactly what a bully does on the grade-school dusty playground, you'd be right.  Gimme all your lunch money or I'll kick your ass.   You do, and he does anyhow.  Where's the justice!

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 15:40 | 3748874 groundedkiwi
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You have already invaded NZ with fiat money and echelon

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 17:56 | 3749213 Kirk2NCC1701
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"Why?"  Same reason pro athletes keep practicing:  Better performance on game day.  And winning games are good for pay.

Just think of how rusty all opponents are (China, Russia), who don't get to battle-test their HW, SW and processes.  Also, and this is even more important, they don't get to keep growing and improving their version of Code 31 ( for TOTAL BATTLEFIELD DOMINATION.  Whether that "battlefield" is outside or (now, thanks to Obama) inside the US.

It's all bullish for the MIC, the Fed & Petro-dollars, for Skynet and the NWO.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:17 | 3748530 redwater
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Lord Vader sends a capital ship to crush the rebellion.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:18 | 3748538 disabledvet
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the headline should read "American Ambassador about to be expelled." Egypt has less chaos right now than Chicago. needless to say it doesn't hurt that they still believe in God over there (say hello to your culture of death America!) to be sure the USA can "send in the peace makers" into the Sinai. I'm obviously a big believer that Egypt was behind the targeted assassination of our Ambassador in Libya and his security detail. I've heard the exact opposite of a confirmation of this of course. that says to me indeed "any American invasion of anything would come as a surprise." we can of course play pretend here. are we playing pretend here Tylers Durden? some tough talk backed up by ripping into America instead? or do we just "launch all the nukes and marvel at the joy of it all"? (h/t Colonel Kurtz.)

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:19 | 3748543 RSDallas
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We should be hearing from Russia and China shortly.  

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:36 | 3748633 Jack Burton
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Back in Soviet times, the USSR was a major supporter of Egypt. That is changed 100%, the US added Egypt to the empire, but Egypt is a sick nation, and will be a terrible burden to the US empire. It may be the ONE PLACE that breaks the back of US imperialism. Perhaps. Egypt is in economic free fall, so is the USA. One can print unlimited money, the other can not. That is a major difference. Neither one will ever see a postive trade balance and growing reserves. Far from it!

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:22 | 3748551 Jack Burton
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Jesus Christ, they can't conquer Afghanistan how in hell do they plan to occupy Egypt with it's huge population.

If the US Marines land, and an incident occures in which shots are fired and Egyptians die? This would not be good. Think about it!

I have read that the people on the streets were really protesting the US control over the Muslim Brotherhood and the Military. The people know that US influence is strong over both sides.

A good way to learn about what is going on is to look at the Egyptian economy. It is in free fall, what little there was to begin with. Egypt makes nothing the world wants, and thus has few exports. It lives now off of Gulf State handouts, tens of billions in hand outs. Left to it's own economy to survive, starvation would be only weeks away. No political action short of a total reorganization of Egypt economically can do any good. The political turmoil is a reflection of an economy in collapse. It will get worse, US troops can do nothing in this case.

Should they land, it will be a ticking time bomb, if violence breaks out and US troops shoot, then a new game begins. And Syria will look like a party game!

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:24 | 3748572 RockyRacoon
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Since when has common sense and a grasp of the obvious ever kept the U. S. out of war?

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:32 | 3748614 Jack Burton
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As long as war means profits and jobs for military contractors, manufacturers and the military brass itself, nothing will prevent  more US wars of choice. Look at the stocks of companies with any connection to the military. Good profits. We have a small company right in my small town that nearly went bankrupt till they landed a military contract to manufacture some gear for US special forces, now they are back into making large profits! Simple formula for success, suck off the taxpayer. It always works!

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 15:19 | 3748812 yogibear
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Blood for money.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 20:42 | 3749518 Zosynspiracy
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I don't think Americans have any fucking clue how much their economy relies on war and military contracts. I live in an uppity liberal Obama drone town where everyone wears Patagonia and veganism is cool and trendy. Guess what? Patagucci has been making clothes for the US spec ops for 10 years. It's a huge part of their profitability. New Balance has now gotten in on that cash cow and is selling clothing and footwear to spec ops. LMAO! America is way past fascist, we are fucking lunatics!

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:52 | 3748698 Element
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The fleet being there is about the canal, and to encourage the Egyptian military to keep a lid on it.

Think Panama ... with camels and zealots.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:26 | 3748577 Jack Burton
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Oh! And they are not US Marine Vessels! They are US Navy vessels designed to carry Marine landing forces and helicopters for transport and support of the Marines. I still cling to those old service rivalries, the Navy and Marines operate jointly, but the Navy isn't handing over any ships to the Marine Corps. At least not yet!

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:32 | 3748600 tarsubil
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They had this blaring on big megaphone speakers. 

"Oh, we're here to 'liberate' you. Pray I don't further alter the agreement," said Marine General Maliciousintent while wearing a black cape and helmet.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:47 | 3748684 shovelhead
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Not nearly as bloodthirsty and bombastic as Wagner, but ya can't blame kids these days for wanting their own music to invade a country.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:33 | 3748620 Tinky
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All governments lie, and increasingly desperate ones do so increasingly.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:34 | 3748624 A. Magnus
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"Never believe anything until it is officially denied."    -Voltaire

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:37 | 3748636 FieldingMellish
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There is almost always a US ship in or around Egypt given the location of the Suez canal. Egypt appears to be relatively calm at the moment with no reported incidents of violence from yesterday's demonstrations. The Sinai is heating up again but that has always been a thorn in Egypt's side. I think the State Department has done enough damage overseas in the last 50 years. Keeping their mouths shut is probably a good policy for once.


Egyptian press reports are even less reliable than CNN. Comfortably ignored.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:39 | 3748643 Blues Traveler
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Saber rattling provides fodder for the oblunder media, distract from multiple scandals, constitutional violations, to me the most violent is the political and religious persecution by the US government agencies....I keep hoping/waiting for rod sterling to pop up to welcome us to the Twilight Zone so I can change the channel.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:40 | 3748647 Goldilocks
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Iko Iko - The Dixie Cups (Acapella) (2:28)

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:46 | 3748681 I am Jobe
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Great, more wars , start the printing presses. Give the sheeples some hope that this is good for the country and democracy, er I meant for Oil. Let the games begin

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 14:53 | 3748709 involuntarilybirthed
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"...while it continues supporting the country with both money and weapons"

You mean supporting the US Defense Industry so we don't lose the sale.   The money is just a transfer from our government > Egypt > Defense Industry.  Egypt launders it.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 15:01 | 3748747 Fix It Again Timmy
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Why of course they are going to continue to send money, probably even increase it because this money is our tax dollars which are then used to buy military hardware from the MIC.  Same, same for Israel and any other country that receives American aid.  Also, no $$$ for food stamps as our politicians are comfortable with letting their constituents dumpster-dive....

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 15:11 | 3748784 ziggy59
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Bizarro World manual...everything is opposite on Htrae, The Bizarro World

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 15:20 | 3748805 Element
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Alternatively, nothing really changed, we're just noticing how things really are.

Sun, 07/14/2013 - 12:45 | 3751500 lakecity55
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Yes! The innertubes were just like the invention of the printing press.

Now the regular man can research and read, and see through the Deception.

When they throw the Switch, all you will get is USG web sites, TV & Radio broadcasts, etc.

The newest EO gives 100% control of ALL communications to Chalky.

ALL Communications.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 15:16 | 3748798 ziggy59
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Maybe theyre delivering sick of this sicko shit

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 15:16 | 3748802 yogibear
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Afghanistan isn't active enought.

Northrup, Lockheed and other defense contractors aren't busy enough. Plus the admin needs a diversion for the unemployment.

New  plan, stir up the bee hive in the Middle East, and start up a major war. That should boaster defense contracts.

Once the war starts all the defense contractors will throw a big campaign shindig in Washington DC  for all the senators and congressmen. Passing out envelops of thanks (of course containing wads of cash).



Sat, 07/13/2013 - 15:22 | 3748822 robnume
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When I "visit" or "watch" a situation somewhere, anywhere, I don't bring naval warships with me. Oops, my bad. Jeezus, haven't we done enough to these people? Apparently not.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 15:24 | 3748828 Dazman
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Why can't we as a country just mind our own business? Why must be try fuck everyone else?


Guess what... When it comes to other countries and terrorist organizations Fucking with us, we only have ourselves and our history of medelling with things to blame.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 15:30 | 3748846 yogibear
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When you have drones killing innocent families as part of the collateral damage the US is building armies of martyrs that want to get  even against the US.  

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 15:36 | 3748863 Seize Mars
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Why can't "we" mind our own business? I don't have any trouble minding my own business. I haven't staged any invasions. I haven't bullied, lied, threatened or stolen anything. I don't torture, I don't intimidate.

Face up. this isn't "we."

Our country has been taken over by really, really bad people.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 15:50 | 3748906 ziggy59
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Agreed..we need to recapture america

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 17:34 | 3748837 americanspirit
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I know that there are plenty of people here on ZH and elsewhere who understand that "we are not planning an invasion" does not mean " We are not planning a visit", nor "We are not planning to give assistance if asked" nor "We are not planning to offer humanitarian aid" nor, even " We are not planning to drop by for a cup of tea."

it simply means that whatever we do, and you can be sure we are planning to do something, it will not technically be an 'invasion'. And of course, it also means we are not 'planning' an "imminent" invasion, but if an invasion becomes necessary (to save the children)  well then .....

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 15:33 | 3748854 Seize Mars
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1. US Installed Morsi

2. Egyptian people said no. Egyptian military does what it is supposed to do, enforced the will of the people and removed a dictator, and called for new elections

3. US pissed off, sends in CIA thugs for a Thermidorean couterrevolution. Fail.

4. Since #3 failed, US threatens invasion



Sat, 07/13/2013 - 18:56 | 3748907 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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No the Obama administration in concert with  the crisisgroup ( helped rig the election to get Morsi elected the same way they rigged the US elections by controlled opposition i.e. controlling the opposition to run a candidate that the general public hated to encourage voter apathy and low turn out. There is a global agenda (though I am convinced Obama is just playing this angle for his own reasons independent of the rest of the world) to try to integrate radical Islamic groups into the mainstream political process with the hope of neutralizing them as threats. The problem is they have no regard for the will of the people in these countries and seem to forget you can't rationalize with irrational people period. Appeasement never works, irrational people can only be communicated in irrational terms since it is the only thing they understand. As someone else said elsewhere a democratically elected (/sarc) Muslim Brotherhood is the same as a democratically elected KKK. You think they are going to change their tune once they are embedded into the mainstream politics?


Sun, 07/14/2013 - 12:41 | 3751462 lakecity55
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Americans are woefully ignorant of the MB infiltration into the USG.

Chalky is the primary connection between the totalitarian Left and the MB.

Been to DC lately? I have. In just 4 years the amount of muslims and mosques have exploded like mushrooms in the district and surrounding areas.In some places you might easily think you were in Saudi Arabia. This complements the large number of domestic Stalinists, Maoists, etc he put into office upon overthrowing the government in 2008.

Chalky's job is to bring a combination of international Left/Muslim rule to America, voiding its Constitution and eventually creating an authoritarian regime. All the EOs updated or signed during Chalky's tenure are complete. He has built a machine and is awaiting orders to turn it on. It makes the Enabling Acts under NAZI Germany tame in comparison, although the scenario is a close duplicate of the history of the Third Reich.

The purpose is several fold: take down the US financial system; place the US under an international globalist power system with the fig leaf of "sovereignty;" eliminate borders and install a regional or international currency after the Crash; dispose of any Americans who will not accept the 'Fundamental Change' or who actively resist.

From the Left's point of view, Ayers was probably correct in estimating about 20 million AMericans will not co-operate, requiring their mass liquidation.

It is important to note, however, that, like any Plan (made by Man), things can go wrong. It is up to Americans to react in time or successfully defeat the Plan if they awake too late to prevent it.

The goals of the two groups which share this fascist view coincide for now. I am still trying to analyze how the two groups will hash out Control after they achieve their goal (both being unaware of the manipulation of the PTB, or a belief TPTB will "side" with them after the near goals are achieved).


Sat, 07/13/2013 - 15:37 | 3748868 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Maybe this has to do with the old loose lips sink corrupt ships saying. If true Morsi is starting to sing like a canary and that means big trouble for little o.

This is a Google translation of the story which appears in French from Poste deVeille in Canada:


Summary: • SECRET agreement between the Obama administration and the Muslim Brotherhood (not the Egyptian government) to give 40% of the Sinai and the annexation of that part of Egyptian territory in Gaza. The objective is to facilitate the conclusion of a comprehensive peace agreement between Israel and the Palestinians  • This agreement was signed by Khairat el Shater (number 2 of the Brotherhood) by Morsi and the Supreme Guide FM. (FM stands for Muslim Brotherhood) • A sum of U.S. $ 8 billion was paid to the FM.  • The document was seized by the army following the deposition of Morsi. This is the army that has leaked the news.  • An investigation is ongoing Morsi and El Shater. An arrest warrant was filed against the Guide to FM and other members of his office.  • FM signatories to the agreement are liable to the death penalty for treason.  • The Obama administration would try to reach an agreement with el Sissi (chairman of the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces): recognition of the legitimacy of the “coup” in exchange for his silence about the secret agreement. But el Sissi would be more interested in the conviction of FM and discredit their organization which is Egypt’s main source of danger.

I believe this is the original arabic tv news piece this is sourced from. Any translators out there?

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 17:17 | 3749141 Conchy Joe
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A couple of other links off that page worth a quick read -

U.S. Will ‘Pressure’ Egypt on Behalf of Brotherhood, Says U.S. Ambassador


I work with an Egyptian who has family there. This is certainly their perspective of how the US is seen -

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 15:42 | 3748869 Element
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Guess who is at it again:


Israel behind mystery attack on Syrian port – US sources
Published time: July 13, 2013 03:33
Edited time: July 13, 2013 19:00
US officials have revealed that explosions reported at a key Syrian port on July 5 were likely the result of an Israeli airstrike.
Three officials spoke to CNN on condition of anonymity, referring to the pre-dawn explosions in the city of Latakia as an Israeli operation which allegedly targeted Russian-made Yakhont anti-ship missiles.
The Yakhont is a cruise missile with a range of 300 kilometers, capable of delivering a warhead weighing in at 250 kilograms. Russia supplied Syria’s armed forces with a Yakhont missile battery in 2011.
Shortly after the July 5 incident, the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) reported that "huge explosions shook the area where a large Syrian army base and weapons depots are located."


Oh yes ... a much, muuuch bigger confrontation is coming.


(Note the bit: "Three officials spoke to CNN on condition of anonymity, ..." ... CNN ... officials ... anon? ... wtf?)

Sun, 07/14/2013 - 00:20 | 3750232 dark pools of soros
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just nuke that Rothschild cocksucking sand dune

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 15:55 | 3748911 New_Meat
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Its setup for a NEO

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 16:01 | 3748921 ebworthen
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Most likely there to get the ambassador and embassy personnel out.

Obama can't afford sacrificing another ambassador and personnel like the ones in Libya (politically at least).

Not that he cares about the people in the Embassy - it's all about his image, legacy, and ego - and getting Hillary elected in 2016.


Sat, 07/13/2013 - 18:03 | 3749219 Manipuflation
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Eb you are likely correct.  A few minutes ago I did my duty for the day by wearing my black "Silver Bullet, Silver Shield, I AM NOT YOUR SLAVE" t-shirt into an establisment that I frequent.  The young man who works the retail counter remarked on my shirt and we struck up a conversation.  I have had some interesting conversations with this young man before and he has worked there for over a year now.  A very intelligent young man.  It all started some months ago when he checked one of my hondos with the "Counterfeit detector pen".  I have a few of those too and checked the paper change he gave back.  "I've never seen anyone else do that before!" he exclaimed.  I calmly explained that if he did not trust me then there is no reason that I should trust him either.  I further explained that it is just paper anyway and that it is all fake.  The young man seemed to grasp the concept behind what I was saying.  This young man seems to have a bit of renegade in him and I know the owner who employs him quite well. 

Per our conversation today, via my t-shirt, we started talking about PMs and the fact that his Mom had started a coin collection for him when he was young.  Sounded mostly like clad is in that collection.  I stated that US silver dimes are the way to go for an aspiring young stacker and we talked a little about markets which he did not seem to understand, but he was ready to listen.

What would you do?  I told the young man that I would go home and get him one of my May catalogs for a PM supplier where you can hedge numismatics.(No, not apmex, et al)  I found one and I grabbed a BU 1964 Roosevelt dime and headed back.  He was a little surprised to see me come back with what I promised.  Not only that, I gave him the silver dime which opened his eyes quite wide as he had never seen one before.  That was well worth my investment of time and a couple of bucks worth of silver to get an intelligent young person looking a little closer at the US monetary system and why we are sending armed forces across the globe.  Given all of my previous conversations with this young man, I believe I just made a great investment for all of us.         

Sun, 07/14/2013 - 00:23 | 3750246 dark pools of soros
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was your hand on his knee?

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 16:42 | 3749030 virgilcaine
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If Egypt had any oil, a few barrels even,  they would have invaded long ago.

Sat, 07/13/2013 - 16:54 | 3749064 Yen Cross
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 Anyone with 2 brain-cells knows exaxtly what's going to happe n.

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