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European Political Crisis Spreads - Leaked Texts Prove Rajoy Link To Illegal Party Funding
Amid the turmoil in Portugal, the Barcenas-Affair in Spain had dropped to the back-pages of the European press... until now. The illegal party-funding that ex-Treasurer Barcenas is now whistle-blowing on has been linked directly to Spanish prime-minister - despite Rajoy's ongoing denial of everything - via text messages uncovered by Spain's El Mundo newspaper. The opposition leadership is demanding Rajoy's "immediate resignation," noting he "is incapacitated," amid the damage that the texts - which prove an ongoing and direct link to the man at the hub of the funding debacle for at least the last two years (when Rajoy has expressly denied any relationship). "You cannot govern well," another congressman noted, when there is "very clear data" linking Barcenas with the PP (Rajoy's party) and the alleged illegal funding. Only a few screen shots have been released of the dozens of texts that the paper has apparently received...
Via El Mundo (and Google Translate),
Mariano Rajoy maintained a direct and permanent contact (at least May 2011 to March 2013) with the former treasurer and asked him to deny the B accounts and bonuses . This is demonstrated by SMS were exchanged and numerous conversations, telephone or face to face.
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These SMS can see how in 2012 Rajoy tried to calm the caller when things got ugly: "Luis, nothing is easy, but we do what we can. Courage."
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And, as in 2013, the day the scandal was uncovered the bonuses and 48 hours after they met Swiss accounts, the president urged Barcenas to "be strong" and expressed his understanding.
The SMS published today-all that have been provided, are a small part of the total. Barcenas has special interest in its diffusion after his former party on Thursday would define him by the mouth of Alfonso Alonso as "an offender who has made ??lies their lifestyle" .
Luis Barcenas was silent for years , since the outbreak of the Gürtel case until well after they met their Swiss accounts and the scandal of bonuses, for the support they lent him personally Mariano Rajoy, first as president of the PP and then their dual role of chief executive and party which holds.
This is evidence, for example, dozens of mobile phone text messages were exchanged the former treasurer and his wife, Rosalie Church, with the number one party. In these SMS is shown that Rajoy has maintained permanent contact and direct with Barcenas for at least two years.
Telephone messages, phone calls and personal interviews in which the president asked patience again and again, who denied everything, in short, do not throw it on the blanket.
and Via Trust.org,
A March 14 text showed Barcenas was ready to break away from the party. "Mariano, the behaviour of the two party lawyers this afternoon was shameful," he wrote, according to El Mundo.
"You must know what you're all playing at but I am now freed from any commitment to you and the party," the message said.
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Now here is something worry of rioting about NOT the George Zimmerman not guilty verdict.
The texts prove that the PM is speaking to his former party treasurer. We all know that the PM has accepted illegal payments, but it will be a quite another matter to prove it.
http://dareconomics.wordpress.com/2013/07/12/around-the-globe-07-12-2013/
Simple solution - farm out Holder to Spain to get to the bottom of things. Problem solved, markets rally. Eurocracy is saved.
Martinis and butt-plugs all around, boys!
Gaucho there!
Silver lining: The EU just fixed Portugal, so they won't have far to go to fix Spain. Plus, August vacation is just around the corner!
Imagine if these guys weren't such dumbasses? Text message?? If only they'd upgraded to imessage, that's still protected apparently! lol
I guess it's a good thing that people have yet to learn that electronic communication is not exactly the safest way to transit your deepest darkest secrets.
They are ALL corrupt.
http://ericsprott.blogspot.ca/
I think Rajoy's initial defense was, " I categorically deny, blah blah, and was backed up by a tediously slow judicial process which would take more time to discover guilt than his term as president. LOL
What a dick.
I hope they skull fuck the guy.
Remember those Irish bankers making up bailout numbers...? I would of thought potato's would have been thrown by now.
So ... The NSA has known about this and has done nothing. Wait ... Their not doing anything is doing something ... allowing criminals to get away.
So ... I wonder if the NSA got a piece of their action via blackmail.
Sounds bad, but let's have some tapas, wine, and a seista before arriving at any rash judgments.
Good point. We can worry about legal problems ... mañana.
Can't it wait until after the siesta?
What happens in Ibiza stays in Ibiza.
The NSA knew this a long time ago.
No we didn't.
Uh, I mean.... um.... No they didn't.
Obama wants Rajoy out. NSA leaked this information. What entity keeps a record of all this?
As I tell all my idiotic friends who think the government is some goo god-like entity looking out for mankinds interest, just wait, when this entity you worship shows up at your door with a copy and states: "you are an enemy of the state and this documents your thought-crimes".
Patrick Henry has rescinded his citizenship to this country of pussies.
"What entity keeps a record of all this?"
Every single ISP, telecom, gub agency, etc. on the planet?
"Well, not only."
Private entity is totally different from public. People who put all their information on Facebook have no understanding, no appreciation for history. The German Nazi party used public information to find Handicapped, gypsies, perceived state enemies, Jews and other misfits to round them up, put them in CATTLE cars, shipped them to camps, and terminated them after harvesting all useful items (eg. hair) from them. Today, evil can go to Facebook and find you, your extended family and your friends and somebody is going to tell them what they want to hear. We can not protect STUPID, but private citizens can fight a private company in court and pass laws to protect private property.
A government who has ALL single ISP, telecom, gub agency, etc. information on all individuals with photoshop tools, how can an individual protect themselves from a state who claims you are an enemy of the state and here is the proof?
You can't, amigo. Ja live in endtymes now, or is it the beginningtymes?
The best you can do for yourself and fellow man is nonparticipation. Even a silent fuck you from every man, woman, and child on the planet will stop tyranny in its tracks. However, this requires universal solidarity and an understanding of who exactly the tyrant is.
Still, you have to admit, it's great sport watching the elites do the "fight club" thing.
I love the quote about "courage" and "be strong". Has a similar vibe to the London traders chatting back and forth about fixing LIBOR.
lol, reminds me of the "Teacher" telling that albino from that Da Vinci code movie to be strong. "Be strong Silas, you gotta kill these mothafuckas in the name of the lawd knawmsayin?"
Sunday listening for y'all - Judas Priest's "Tyrant."
"Mourn for us oppressed in fear
Chained and shackled, we are bound
Freedom choked, in dread we live
Since Tyrant was enthroned!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFkLedEX6Qc
Skate, We have no voluntary solidarity on earth in any nation. All social institutions are in decline. The only opinion that matters is mine. Peace and hope are terminally ill. We are in sadtymes and maybe primed for a Hitler II.
Can you imagine the support a strong leader would get from the people if he told the people the truth being the banksters, doctors, lawyers, judges, CEOs of major corporations, media and crony politicians have fucked you and this country? I (being Hitler II) am going to jail thos responsible and hang them on street poles; all those who have committed treason against this country. Follow me and I will render justice and start the beginningtymes of prosperity. Hell, can you imagine what this man could do with the NSA data in destroying his enemies?
I always wondered how the most logical people on the earth (some may tie, but no culture beats the Germans) could have elected Hitler, but now I understand.
You know you can't take the battery out of an iphone for a reason, always on yo...
Ever heard of flight mode? SIM card?
Wrap the bloody thang in aluminum foil!
Repeat after me: Mariano, Mariano, hijo de puta!
Spain rearranging deck-chairs.
What! A corrupt politician? I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you.
Surely this type of thing can't be happening in the US, UK, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Greece, Eire, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc., etc., etc.
I have to say this is one of the most surprising and frightening news I have ever read. A politician is a paragon of virtue, this just isn't possible. There has to be some sort of misunderstanding.
when things get really bad......its OK to lie
I believe the exact quote is you HAVE TO lie. One implies choice in the matter, the other doesn't.
10y Spain should open 5% +
...but S&P 500 will spike 50 points, because Daddy Bernanke will save us.
monkey hammer time...
Bonds aren't shinny...
WHat is the connection between Rajoy to Snowden?....Both are buying tickets to Nicaragua......
Cheaper by the dozen.....
At this rate they should just wait and get a group deal on a charter.
Information courtesy of the NSA.
(nazi states of amurkin)
Jack's complete lack of surprise...
First, I'll admit that I know nothing about Spanish politics. Having said that, I imagine the opposition has done the same, but just haven't been caught.
You need more imagination:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grupos_Antiterroristas_de_Liberaci%C3%B3n
Dude. At least it was a party he was funding.
http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=A2KJkIa27eJR0UgABbCjzbkF...
Lying greased palm scumbag politicians - just like the U.S.A.
At least us real people can still enjoy a fine wine; empty bottles make a good Molotov cocktail.
This is one of my favorite reds from Spain (and of all time), reasonably priced too:
Marques de Riscal Proximo Riojahttp://www.wine-searcher.com/find/marq+de+riscal+proximo+doca+rioja+spain
So, is the hugging and kissing in Rajoy's texts a Spanish thing?
I mean the Dirty Huns (or whatever they're calling Deutschebankreich now) don't do this, and the Brits certainly don't. Is this normal for Spaniards?
I guess it is.
Same in Brazil. Very common there for someone to say "um abraço" when they bid farewell.
It's a sign of warm friendship, not that they'd necessarily like to hug/kiss you ;-)
Berlusconi part 2
So, if Rajoy resigns we'll possibly see the Spanish Conservative Socialist Party (aka PP) replaced by the Socialist Socialist Party.
What a God-darned shambles!
Welcome to Europe :-(
All it will take now is for Barroso to reveal that HE IS STILL a Maoist.
The last one to leave will please switch off the lights.
Wait, when was Portugal FIXED? Oh, was just like Greece was FIXED? oh, the PIIGS just keep on flyin' I guess???
And now we see why the politicians are wetting their pants re: Snowden. - Ned
...and the Euro opens up!
IBEX futures unmoved
Those socialists in Europe don't lie and they certainly aren't corrupt. LMFAO
Everybody here, in Spain, "knew" this was happening, but now we pretend to be so horrified with the evidence. It's just a pose. Next elections, our corrupt parties will get 90% of the votes again. In fact, they usually IMPROVE election results after corruption scandals, as their voters get defensive.
It's the same thing in your country, isnt' it? Is there anyone really suprised with Snowden's revelations?
Democracy tends to reflect in the power the political culture of the people. That's wgy we're in this FUBAR situation, and why we'll keep sinking on it, down to the third world. Then we'll understand what we had and what we lost.
Greetings from Spain, US fellows on these "interesting times"