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House Votes To Delay Obamacare By One Year; Checks To Senate Democrats - Shutdown 'Inevitable'?

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On a rare Saturday session (now Sunday); in a not-too-surprising vote down party lines, the House has voted in favor of the continued-military-funding, medical-device-tax-repealing, Obamacare-delaying continuing resolution that keeps the government paid until December 15th...

  • *HOUSE PASSES 231-192 OBAMACARE DELAY IN U.S. SPENDING BILL
  • *HOUSE VOTES 423-0 TO FUND TROOPS IF GOVERNMENT SHUTS DOWN

Now it's off to the Senate and Harry Reid's 'over-my-dead-body' as the White House prepares for Government Shutdown.. (and/or veto) with little (or no) time to cobble together a last-minute deal.

Of course this will be the meme for tomorrow...

 

 

 

It's crazy pills time...

 

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Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:06 | 4002851 Yen Cross
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  SHUT THAT fucker DOWN! 

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:09 | 4002855 Stuart
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Pointless Kabuki theatre.... And these clowns are the backers of the reserve currency.   Gimme a frickin' break.  FIRED!

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:14 | 4002864 fourchan
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shut down the government one full week every month for a year, pay for obama care.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 02:10 | 4002931 Boris Alatovkrap
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Boris is more laugh at white hair person resemblement of mother-in-law (except for mustache), but is serious to question why Amerika citizenry is not to welcome of government vacation. Would East German citizen not enjoy "Stasi Holiday"!? Would Cambodia resident not enjoy "Khmer Rouge Holiday"?! For damn sure, Russian is enjoy holiday from Red Army, NGKB, KGB.

Amerika should pray for relief FROM nanny state regime, even if just few week or month! Maybe bank holiday is too!

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 02:22 | 4002937 Boris Alatovkrap
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Oops, Boris fat finger is mis-type. Not mean NGKB ("Next Generation Kick Boxing" - which is very much fun and enjoyment), but NKGB ("People Kommissariat of State SeKurity" - is not so much fun and enjoyment).

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 02:36 | 4002950 James-Morrison
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Harry Reid is translate for
Hairy Reed is way to say
Hairy Rod which
Means...
Big Dick.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 02:59 | 4002961 Oh regional Indian
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Howdy Jimbo, glad to see the rumors were true. He lives... ;-)

My two.5 cents.... 

STOP CALLING THIS PLAN OBAMACARE

iT'S A CLASSIC, TAVISTOCK INSPIRED TRICK. Makes it sound like Obama cares. He does not care and yet a billion times a day, all over the us MSM, it's like a million drones saying it, over and over.... obamacare, obamacare..... and he/it/they are laughing, because they know that that is all it takes, control through language. As long as people keep calling it obamacare, nothing will change.

Quit repeating their mantra and see the facade crumble.

It's all about the words, the symbols and the language, for as all the bible reading folks here know, first there was the word....

ori

http://aadivaahan.wordpress.com/2011/10/11/the-deep-perversion-of-language/

 

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 05:53 | 4003002 GetZeeGold
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Screw marxism......shut it down.

 

What's Harry Reid gonna call me now? I don't think he's used the word kidnapper yet.

 

My offer is this Harry...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnmIoF_2Q4Y

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 06:35 | 4003022 lakecity55
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Searchlight, Nevada is missing its Cretin.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 08:32 | 4003099 synergize
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Oh yeah and dont forget gold is still leaving the USA - COMEX inventories drop 5 tonnes in one day last week.  Any wonder why foreigners are trading their dollars for gold?

http://seekingalpha.com/article/1718882-weekly-comex-gold-inventories-to...

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 10:13 | 4003175 Pool Shark
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Here we go; Republicans announcing their surrender before the final battle even begins:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/359829/kevin-mccarthy-house-will-send-third-volley-senate-if-reid-rejects-last-nights-bill

Told ya the Repugs would cave.

Same as it ever was...

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 12:57 | 4003531 Sean7k
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What really scares the hell out of them is the possibility government might partially shut down and the People would realize it didn't matter all that much and start asking questions about how much we could shut down. Then some idiot would describe the possible savings and reduction of debts and even, heaven forbid, a reduction in governmental surveillance.

Next thing you know, we start thinking we could do this whole thing at a state level or county level or local level with a small federal role in the protection of rights and defensive security. Oh no!

Then, we might start making and using real money and cut out the zionists AND their pathways into governmental control. We might start using local media as well.

I have a dream...

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 12:59 | 4003535 TeamDepends
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Silly ferners, there is plenty of gold in Fort Knox....

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 19:29 | 4003130 Anusocracy
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Government, like the killing, stealing machine it is, should be put down, not shut down.

Putin did ask why the West was going where Russia had just come from.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 04:43 | 4002995 Disenchanted
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re: "STOP CALLING THIS PLAN OBAMACARE"

I think of it as the OSHIIT plan - O'Blahma Subsidizing Health Insurance Industry Takings

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 06:08 | 4003010 GetZeeGold
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Fine, I won't call it that then.

 

How does Operation Fuk America sound to you?

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 08:35 | 4003103 Wahooo
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Yes, just call it what it is: Government Healthcare. Then, when it implodes, people can criticize it without being "racist".

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 09:34 | 4003157 DOT
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ACA is about government control of the Health Insurance apparatus not Health Care. Insurance agents are a pain in the ass...MDs are about removing that pain. (There must be some expensive prescription drug for that.)

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 15:29 | 4003735 object_orient
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There are so many great reasons to hate Obamacare, yet you pick one that isn't even true. That "public option" never materialized. The health insurance compaines are private. The doctors don't get government paychecks.

Obamacare is government-mandated private health insurance. Most people call this corporatism or fascism or something.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 08:43 | 4003110 new game
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good ole copy and paste (i don't take credit) but sure see the truth.

where it all goes...

Both the written Idiom and Money, per se, are measures of humanity. (to measure is a qualitative verbe).

Both have been weighed, measured and found wanting (Daniel)

The FedRes actions both under Greenspan, complicity with the Clinton/Bush Administrations and by open and public promotion of the Iraq invasion, and Bernanke's wealth transfer from productivity to the non-productive Banking System classes which can only be intended to support the continuity of the Project for the New American Century Policy (PNAC) of infinite mass Blood sacrifice, mass genocide and endless War. The Global Cull with a twist; the sweet taste of endless blood of humanity for the "neocons' aka Bolsheviks.

Here is "Economic Theory" in practise: blind utopian faith in obedience and political expediency for the desires of the Master Collective aka the Banking System; the true Ponzi schema. The FedRes below screams that it is superior, misunderstood and is doing things for the greater and noble good; your good, while adding more fuel to the fire, under the pan, where YOU sit in the water in a state of false belief, gullibility; betrayed and ready for the sacrifice; your sacrifice. 'Trust us, forgive us; we are fixing it for you and your security' but we can't tell you what we are doing because you are incapable of the high level mathematics in which we have been personally gifted by God'. (roll your eyes and scream out 'Oh, Lordy'. Mathematics are only uselful to describe what exists and not that which does not exist; it is all an imposed allusion by the deluded.)

Philadelphia Fed ‏@philadelphiafed45m

#Plosser: Just because markets like what we are doing now does not mean that it is the best thing in the long run. http:// ow.ly/mUQzK

 

The bottom-line is that the USA as we have known it as the great Light of Freedom and Liberty for all has been captured and is being destroyed from the inside; nothing new here. The final moments are already in play; you are now experiencing the Fall of Rome; today is the continuation of the 1917 Bolsehivek Revolution..

 

The Greatest declarations of humanity ever recorded in written history are contained Declaration of Independence, The Constitution of the United States of America, the Bill of Rights and their premable, essences and contributing intellectual correlations. It is the Supreme Law of the Constitutional Republic known as the United States of America,

 

The President of the USA today is said to be a Professor of Constitutional Law - if you believe that you will believe anything. The White House spokesman Mr. Carney is said to state that Snowden is not a "dissident". Obviously the White House is not only incompetent, obedient to its masters but also delusional. And it has been reported that the US has a secret Court that over-rules The Supreme Court, and is so secret that its finding in Law are kept as secret. Its victims are then found guilty and incarcerated, executued or assassinated without ever knowing why? A Constitutional Lawyer, I think not. Your President is merely a charlatan.

 

Is it not clear to you Americans that Your Government is intent on your total suppression? For non-Americans it is clear that your Government is also intent on Global Totalitarianism aka Global Communism; the banner of vile corrupted ideology carried by the demented and twisted pervert Bolshevik, Leon Trotsky, the hero of your embedded "neocons" that are clearly running the United States of America today? Note that before "Clit" Bill Clinton they were referred to by the Pentagon as the "F*&king Crazies". They still are!

 

Language is the measure and Government and all that hangs and feeds off it, have been found wanting. The Constitution of the USA has been shreaded, yet it still remains, a priori, the HIGHEST LAW of the LAND. There is nothing else but political expedience aided and abetted by the Institutional Economists and unelected bureaucrats and their out-of-control feral supporters that '... hate you for your Freedoms". The US Constitution allows for ALL Laws introduced by Congress, the Senate, the Supreme Court, the NSA Secret Court, and the President to be made null and void, a priori, when found to be not in compliance; Your Constitution is The Supreme Law of Your Land; your Nation.

 

The War now is of the individual against the "Collective". But there is a larger "collective" in the room (there always is) but this "collective" respects the individual and that is known as humanity; the creation of God.

 

"In Principle, God created the heavens and Earth." Genesis 1. This is the correct translation of the first line of Genesis 1, from the original /reconstructed Hebraic (Text written/constructed before ~2500 BCE in the original language of the ancient Egyptian sages. Make note, the original Hebrew was the official and sacred language of the Egyptian Temple. Make no mistake, truth always, a priori, survives time.

The bottom line

 

"Do you wish to know when that day is coming? Watch money. Money is the barometer of a society’s virtue. When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by Compulsion -- 
when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing -- 
when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors -- 
when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don’t protect you against them, but protect them against you -- 
when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming self-sacrifice -- 
you may know that your society is doomed. Money is so noble a medium that it does not compete with guns and it does not make terms with brutality. It will not permit a country to survive as half-property, half-loot."
-- Ayn Rand Author Atlas Shrugged, P. 385 (1957)

 

http://tinyurl.com/7n69quh

The FedRes role is to support the Government of the USA to conquer the World and to impose Global Communism. Economic Theory is nothing but a faith-based consensual politic agenda which justifies through expediency the rule of force and imposition by those with the guns. The institutional Economists are blind meal-ticket apologists of the priesthood who pay allegiance to those that protect their faith - whatever, that is; it is however not science; as nor is mathematics.

Money is the measure of integrity of the man and State; it has been measured and found wanting. The FedRes and its Economists need to face the Constitution in its orginal essence and format as well as face a Court of real Law founded in the Principles of Science (this does not infer academia).

The edifice that inhabits the former USA, and built out of ignorance must be overcome and you Americans whom we foreignors do not hate, yet envy for your Constitution and Freedoms, deplore you to use your Constitution to right your Nation again and rid yourselves of the disease that has taken possession of your Nation. The whole World is today dependant upon you.

Long Live: Assange, Manning, Snowden, Tice, Drake, Binney, et al < http://tinyurl.com/nhrfhjq >

Long Live: Humanity.

Long Live: Truth.

It is seen from the outside of the USA that the expectation and the practise is to lie. It has be-come the norm to lie.

Why then do you need Congress? Why do you need Courts?

Answer: The State needs nothing but guns, murder, genocide and incarceration. Today, the USA has become a State, not an empire. It is not Empire that fails: it is the State that fails as it is a parasite that always kills its host.

References: Rothbard - v. Mises - v Hanyek, et al.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 13:07 | 4003548 Sean7k
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Like your paste, but you forgot the glue- the bolsheviks are zionists, decended from the same Levites that wrote the early books of the Torah, a single tribe (Judah) at odds with all Israel, bent on death, destruction and enslavement of all the non- Israelites in the world then and forever.

Our enemy is not a list of alphabet agencies and politicians, it is the zionists. When we marginalize them, the FED goes away, the military becomes defensive, debt is minimalized, and liberty can flourish.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 14:22 | 4003662 Herd Redirectio...
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Zionists

Banksters

Bolsheviks

Fascists

Kleptomaniacs

Sociopaths

Call them what you will.  The above are practically synonyms and interchangeable, IMO.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 08:49 | 4003118 BoNeSxxx
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Exactly ORI.

I would add the other Tavistock Word Play Mind Fuck is 'rising healthcare costs'

HC is the only industry where COST is demonized and price never mentioned.

You don't hear about rising food costs, or rising gasoline costs... it's always about price.  Only in healthcare is it a cost only environment.  Pure BS.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 13:57 | 4003627 Oh regional Indian
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nice observation BoneS...

 

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 08:55 | 4003124 Unknown User
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If Republicans hate it, it’s not a complete rip-off.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 13:04 | 4003537 FeralSerf
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"STOP CALLING THIS PLAN OBAMACARE"

What's the difference between this and the myriad of other government doublespeak programs like "Patriot" Act?. And what is there about the ACA that is "affordable"?

Yes, it is all about words -- the redefining the meanings of them. If we redefine "evil" to be some sort of uber-good, then lying, cheating, stealing, and killing becomes something to be proud of.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 03:24 | 4002971 MsCreant
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A reed is very thin and flexible. Not so big.

A genie granted Obama three wishes. Obama wished to become president of the United States and Poof, he was president of the United States. Next Obama wished for the Nobel Peace Prize and Poof, he won the Nobel Peace Prize. For his last wish, Obama whispered into the Genie's ear, ever so quietly, "I wish a I had a big prick," and Poof, there was Harry Reid.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 04:00 | 4002987 mtomato2
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Thank you, ms. I needed that at 4 in the morning!

God help us all.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 08:44 | 4003112 stant
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you mean hillary with a strapon

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 08:31 | 4003098 Debt-Is-Not-Money
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"Harry Reid's 'over-my-dead-body'"

Is that a threat or a promise????????????

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 03:05 | 4002964 RafterManFMJ
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An entire YEAR delay?! Now how the hell am I going to get these bunions removed?!

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 03:15 | 4002968 balolalo
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Stall, stall, stall, because they know eventually its all going to fall... apart.

Disaster capitalism in action. Masters at work, fleecing our future, while they pimp out theirs.

They (the 1%) want the chaos of a dollar collapse, it's a smash and grab job.

We're fucked.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 06:11 | 4003012 GetZeeGold
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You can call this capitalism with a straight face?

 

I'm going to have to ask you for your definition of capitalism.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 08:36 | 4003105 Wahooo
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It's the Capitalism experienced by most Americans during their lives. When was real capitalism? Never as a governing economic system in my 50-some years, perhaps at the local small business level only.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 15:35 | 4003751 object_orient
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I think the term was "disaster capitalism," which I suppose is the final stage of crony capitalism when the looting goes full bore.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 06:14 | 4003014 Squid-puppets a...
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yer, but only 1% of the 1% decide the timing of the chaos. And so the rest of the 1% is gonna get increasingly nervous and take sudden protective steps that shatter the grand illusion

There's gonna be more than a few cut, bleeding hands among the smash n grab gang

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 08:24 | 4003089 Pegasus Muse
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Stall, stall, stall, because they know eventually its all going to fall... apart.

Michael Noonan has an interesting take on things. 

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Gold And Silver – Central Bank Death Dance (Part I)

If “they” can get you to ask the wrong questions[s], “they” do not have to worry about giving the right answer[s].

http://goldsilverworlds.com/price/gold-silver-central-bank-death-dance/

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 08:23 | 4003091 SunRise
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Obame"Care" has a clause that says in the event of delay, they will remove your bunions after death.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 03:59 | 4002986 Tall Tom
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From their point of view it was more blessed to be giving than receiving. It just depends on your point of view, Boris. That is all. It is just a point of view...Right???

I hope that they shut it down too. I need a holiday from more draconian laws.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 18:21 | 4004061 Shooting Shark
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NKVD perhaps, tovarisch.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:17 | 4002868 Yen Cross
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  Stuart I suggest you put down your i-shit and join a club. Flying. Diving, soft-ball, golfing. sking?

  Get involved before you make remarks like that.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 02:32 | 4002945 Boris Alatovkrap
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Boris is recommend hobby of home distillation.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 08:39 | 4003106 Wahooo
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Russians don't grow marijuana?

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 08:41 | 4003107 BandGap
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I fornicate whenever possible. It keeps me calm.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:27 | 4002887 The Shootist
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Let me get a Booyaaah! #CrazypillsCramer

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:29 | 4002893 CrashisOptimistic
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It is kabuki theatre, but it's worse than you think because:

 

IT'S NOT ABOUT OBAMACARE.  IT'S ABOUT MANEUVERING TO BUST THE SEQUESTER.  These assholes are going to bust the Sequester limits and ramp up spending.  We'll be deficit north of $1 Trillion in FY2014 again. 

They are going to fuck around and in the end all they really want is to wriggle out of the Sequester and spend money like water flowing over Niagara Falls.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 02:40 | 4002954 James-Morrison
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I think this means war.
I believe it will be an army of one.

We know how that ends up...

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 07:19 | 4003023 GetZeeGold
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Get your damn hands off our sequester....it's the only thing working for us.

 

If this is what utopia looks like.....I should definitely be getting at least a little money back.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 08:42 | 4003108 BandGap
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With mid-terms approaching they need money to buy bling and get votes.

No candy for you.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 08:44 | 4003111 GMadScientist
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They'd make it MIC-only, if they could, but they'll settle for everything, as you've said.

Very perceptive!

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:20 | 4002873 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 1

Quite agree YC...

 

"Harry Reid's 'over-my-dead-body'"

(we wish...)

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:27 | 4002888 Son of Loki
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...from Reid's lips to God's ears....

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:29 | 4002895 DoChenRollingBearing
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Excellent reply!  LOL!

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 06:26 | 4003018 GetZeeGold
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Harry is an excellent fighter...you should have seen the other guy.

http://bellalu0.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/harry-reid-black-eye3.jpg

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 02:35 | 4002948 Boris Alatovkrap
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Reid lip is offensive in God's ear.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 08:44 | 4003113 GMadScientist
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Both sets.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:26 | 4002890 John_Coltrane
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Well, in his defense, he couldn't say, "over my dead brain", 'cause we all know he's brain dead!

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 07:30 | 4003053 New_Meat
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that then would be an easy hurdle to step over

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 04:05 | 4002990 Buck Johnson
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What the republicans are doing is playing hardball.  They believe that once the govt. is shutdown, Obama will eventually cave because he has before so many times previously.  And if not oh well, most of the tea partiers want the govt. to implode so that they can remake it into a better system in their minds.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 05:58 | 4003008 kridkrid
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Nope. That's what you want to see, but that's not real. The average dem wants to see a sour grapes. Obama hating, obstructionist Republican Party... That's not real either. It's all a show. Anyone who sees it as anything but a show is being played.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 08:35 | 4003102 GetZeeGold
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Reid and Obama refusing to discuss anything is the republicans playing hardball?

OK sure.....whatever.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 12:16 | 4003431 TBT or not TBT
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It is show business, but with ugly people.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 09:25 | 4003153 Martian Moon
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Not hardball, more like tag team

If Obamacare were to pass the Dems would take a pounding in 2014

Neither party wants that because they both have the same owners

Tweedledee just saved Tweedledumb s ass

 

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:07 | 4002852 ebworthen
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Crazy Pills!

Only problem is, us "constituents" always get the bill and never the pill!

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:09 | 4002853 PP
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Obamacare...Fannie and Freddie...NSA...sound familiar......like communist China

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:08 | 4002857 TaperProof
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Yes, shutdown... but there are two weeks of "emergency measures" in place. so it really doesn't matter until mid October.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:46 | 4002907 HardlyZero
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Once it shuts down...when do they all leave DC and go HOME ?   That would be something to keep track of.  When they sell off their condo's and go back...that is when its done.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:48 | 4002910 TaperProof
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Never is the answer, sadly.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 02:37 | 4002952 Boris Alatovkrap
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Small child is play "kick can", but grow up. Political sycophant is never grow up, "kick can" until senile, like Reid and McCain.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 06:39 | 4003024 GetZeeGold
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That poor can is so beat up it's nothing more than a twisted hunk of tin.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 08:25 | 4003092 SunRise
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"Twisted hunk of paper"  fixed it.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 08:47 | 4003116 GMadScientist
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Kicking cans became tiresome, so now we rubber stamp.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 02:18 | 4002933 yabyum
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Mike lee (r utah) had his house short sold and the note picked up by Citi Bank ( who owns his ass).......no selling the condo for Mikey!

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 06:28 | 4003020 GetZeeGold
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Harry.....is that you?

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 08:53 | 4003121 GMadScientist
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Factoid of the day: Utah has the lowest medicare outlay per capita in the US.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 15:42 | 4003767 object_orient
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Young population? Generous state-run alternative?

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 02:55 | 4002959 hamstercheese
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They are not engaged in 'public service' they are engaged to enrich themselves at the tax payers expense without accountability.  That is how you become rich - a penny from everyone without being answerable for it...ever.

 

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 03:32 | 4002975 Quentin Daniels
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Public servants service the public in the same way a bull services a cow.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:08 | 4002858 RussellB
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I guess the Republicans get a half star sticker for going through with this the second time around. My SPY puts could really use a good old fashioned Wall Street panic next week. 

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:11 | 4002861 TaperProof
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GLD and GDX calls here... lets see what happens.  I was buying them regardless expecting a slight bump up in price by Oct 19th

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:13 | 4002862 floyd084
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Spooze loose 0.5% then regains it and adds + 3% by December.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:47 | 4002908 HardlyZero
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Medium Cap double down MZZ

QQQ double down QID

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:10 | 4002860 floyd084
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Republicans should send the bill to senate while telling public, "Senate needs to weigh which is less damaging, one year of post poned O-Care, or a shutdown of gov't."

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:12 | 4002863 Nid
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Nah, the fix is in....Senate will remove O'care delay and send it back with Med device tax repeal. House will approve and say "look, we cut taxes"...meanwhile debt will increase. All scum.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:15 | 4002867 TaperProof
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Sounds too weak to me... don't think that is going to happen.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:29 | 4002894 Nid
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I hope you're right....I don't trust house GOP. They're terrified of a shutdown.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:15 | 4002866 One And Only
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No one listen to this bullshit scare mongering rhetoric. 

The government will still:

-spy on you

-tax you

-regulate you

-maintain clandestine foreign operations

-bombing people (women or children) across the world

You might not get mail and a few parks might get shut. That's about it.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:22 | 4002880 DoChenRollingBearing
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Yes, all true.  Just some inconveniences for us, while they stay up to their nasty tricks & schemes...

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 07:43 | 4003064 New_Meat
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"-maintain clandestine foreign operations"

-maintain clandestine domestic operations.

FIFY

- Ned

{you're welcome}

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:18 | 4002869 sansnobel
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See my previous post

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 06:50 | 4003031 GetZeeGold
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You forgot to say please.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:17 | 4002870 Atomizer
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Place Harry Reid and other progressives on the same Obamacare policy. Let’s see how many supportive votes you receive Obama.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:24 | 4002883 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 1

Yeah, we wish.  They won't do it because they get the cosy deal while we get la mierda!

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 08:54 | 4003123 GMadScientist
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Harry Reid is not a progressive, chumptard.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:19 | 4002872 Dre4dwolf
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And 99.8% of Americans wont even notice if the Govt shuts down.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:26 | 4002885 Atomizer
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You’re correct. Between now and Monday morning, the cunts on all MSM channels will be dreaming up every excuse on why something is not functioning properly.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:20 | 4002874 orangegeek
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Yes, but more importantly it's week 4 of the NFL and the slate is full!!!!

 

Get me Orville Redenbacher!!!!

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:20 | 4002876 carbonmutant
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Go long the Dollar on this one.

If congress aint spending the dollar's goin' up. Sorry Ben...

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:49 | 4002912 HardlyZero
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Unless there is a rating downgrade.

For example Italy may be downgraded to junk any day now.

Its possible there could be a rash of downgrades for the top debtors.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:25 | 4002881 Son of Loki
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So my insurer is giving me the boot January 1st and already told me so in writing two weeks ago as well as to "look elsewhere" for health insurance coverage.

So now what happen s if they delay?

My premiums were hiked three times in the last two years "to pay for Obamacare" according the my insurer. Do I get a refund?...or simple get more Vaseline?

This whole thing sucks.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:25 | 4002889 DoChenRollingBearing
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Yep, the whole thing sucks.  And it's just going to get worse.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 06:59 | 4003037 Mentaliusanything
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I'm a little confused?Who it on top? It' Important to know,.... I need to place a bet, Tell me who is the giver and who is the taker? 

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:25 | 4002884 chindit13
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And here I was thinking these guys were completely clueless.  Fund the troops and you might stave off a coup. 

Oooooh, I hope they included Blackwater/Xe/Academi in that funding!

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:28 | 4002891 DoChenRollingBearing
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Those merc guys change their name so fast it's hard to keep up...

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 07:46 | 4003068 New_Meat
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learned from the best; when is the last time you heard "ACORN"?  Them folk didn't vanish. - Ned

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:26 | 4002886 Solarman
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If it comes back, TTe Repubicans should simply say OK, then all exemptions are void.  We are all in it together.  Have fun.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 08:56 | 4003125 GMadScientist
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So hilarious to watch politicians grandstanding as if they can take the stand now they should have taken before.

Does noone remember Newt's Contract on America and how incredibly poorly the same stunts went for the fat pig and his party?

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:27 | 4002892 sunkeye
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Jeezus the Repubs are as tone deaf as I am singing in the shower.

This move is loser city.  Let the fucking bill go thru - it's gonna crater - make the hole in the ground

at Crater Lake look like a golf divit.

Plus - as I tried to point out in a previous thread - it will do 2 things.

1. Get employers out of health care.  This IS good.

2. Let the re-elected potus get his way. This also IS good as a Conservatarian will one day be potus too.  

Get what I'm sayin'?

& again fellow ZHheads don't go hating on me for spouting an outlier position 'k? 

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:33 | 4002899 sansnobel
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I happen to agree whole hearted with you. The sooner we make employers show the true costs of labor the better off we will all be. While we are at it..... Get rid of pensions AND 401ks and make wages and compensation be measured all in today's wages. That will throw the system into tizzy and make employers heads explode

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:36 | 4002900 sansnobel
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How you invest your own compensation in today's dollars should be managed by you! Not fund managers who pay themselves to risk your after tax earnings

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:53 | 4002915 HardlyZero
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Thing to watch will be how corporate managers get treated vs. workers.   Do you think the VPs will lose their 401Ks, perks, stocks, offsites, incentives, etc.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 02:06 | 4002929 sansnobel
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Fucking managers will not get golden parachutes in a real world environment

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 02:12 | 4002932 sansnobel
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Something you gotta get thru your head dude......capital when it is real capital ie earned and not printed or counterfeited by a central bank will find its proper place. Some of it will be yours if you invest it wisely under the rule of law, but hand it to a bunch of thieves and their promises and you will end up with exactly what we have today......

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:57 | 4002920 jomama
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the so-called 'conservatives' that largely dominate the ZH comments section these days (because they have literally no place else to troll) are not fellow ZHeads of years past.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 04:17 | 4002993 Disenchanted
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re: "the so-called 'conservatives'"

wouldn't recognize traditional conservatism(pre-neoCON, and pre-Ronnie Raygun)even if it bit them on the ass.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 07:52 | 4003027 GetZeeGold
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Please do your up-most to make our progressive democrat and republican readers to feel nurtured....cause they're really sensitive.

Thanks in advance.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 09:02 | 4003131 GMadScientist
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jomama calls, and you appear, Trolololo

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 07:17 | 4003045 Singelguy
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You fail to appreciate that this spending impasse does not stop Obamacare from being implemented. It just delays implementation of the increase in taxes that fund the cost of Obamacare. The insurance companies and the drug companies will still make a fortune. The deficit will just be higher.

I agree that the Republicans are stupid to try and block Obamacare. They have tried many times already but as long as Oblabla is in the White House it is not going to happen. They made their point. Let it go through and everyone will soon realize what a disaster it is.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 09:12 | 4003143 Abaco
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They can block it by doing what they are doing. Nothing can be spent without the House passing it and there is nothing Obama or Reid can do about it. Shut it down until those two psychopaths blink. Hell shuttiing it down is what the GOP consitutents want.  All the Boehner/McConnell/Graham/McCain whining about what they can't get passed by the senate or over a veto by the shithead in chief is a bunch of crap.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:31 | 4002896 Max Cynical
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Huckabee had what I think is a great solution tonight...fullly fund implementation with two provisions...no one is exempt including congress, unions, big business, etc. and there's a sunset provision that the bill expires unless it's renewed on January 15, 2015.

Let the Dems own this POS!

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:39 | 4002902 Nid
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Yet another "strategy" with the primary objective being "keep Govt open", which is the only thing any of these bloodsuckers care about ...keep the Gravy Train rolling.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:50 | 4002913 TaperProof
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Thats crap. How about ANYBODY can opt out with no fines and purchase private insurance, or not even have insurance if they so choose.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 09:03 | 4003133 GMadScientist
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You'd rather pay taxes than premiums; duly noted.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:33 | 4002898 Meat Hammer
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One year??!!  Full repeal or bust!

These Repukes make it obvious that they just want to make it to the 2014 elections.  They don't want to change anything, they just want the keys to the liquor cabinet.  

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:56 | 4002917 holdbuysell
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IMO, one year means forever.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 07:43 | 4003065 GetZeeGold
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4eva.......I speak DC jive.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 02:11 | 4002930 Totentänzerlied
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Just the tip.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 07:08 | 4003041 Mentaliusanything
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I up voted you, Meathammer just because it's the Liquor cabient. But the Perks are...... endless. They really want the cabinet but the lifelong perks are de rigour. Follow the Money

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 09:04 | 4003134 GMadScientist
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Then bust. You don't have a chance; they take insurance lobby checks too.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:47 | 4002905 One And Only
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The ONLY time the government "shuts down" is when the debt ceiling is not raised and our Central Bank runs out of assets to monetize.

At that point we get a collapse and a return to productivity (post revolution)

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:56 | 4002919 HardlyZero
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Yes..that's one hell of a taper.  Cut it right off at the source.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 01:58 | 4002924 icanhasbailout
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The Senate will magically merge Obamacare funding into the bill that passed unanimously, and declare it passed by both houses. Obama will then sign the bill, spend the money, and dare anyone to do anything about it, fistful of SCOTUS NSA wiretaps in hand.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 02:20 | 4002936 sansnobel
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I'd like to taper my shit right into Obamas mouth this morning....here let me pinch that off for ya El presidente'

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 02:27 | 4002940 sansnobel
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You guys are no fucking fun come on......guys it's all ball bearings these days.... What like Obamas never had shit dropped in his suck before......I thought that's how they do bidness in Chi- town

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 02:28 | 4002941 sansnobel
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You know I guess this makes the American people the royal taster

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 02:30 | 4002943 sansnobel
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Now serving the Obama shit sandwich...... Mmmmm now make sure you get all of it in there America .....wouldn't want you to skip out on the aftertaste

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 02:31 | 4002944 Oldwood
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None of them will sacrifice themselves for any of us. Ultimately they all believe in the system and not the true intention of the constitution which was created specifically to restrain them. They see the constitution the same as many see guns. Even though its primary purpose is self defense, they think it too dangerous for individuals to hold that much power. People like Cruz give some of us hope but the problem has never been leaders but the people who vote for them.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 02:36 | 4002949 sansnobel
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Oh it tastes so delicious I'm going to have stop spending money at my local deli . I'm sure he won't mind. But wait, maybe I don't have to .....James Dimon offered me a new line of credit which according to my economics professor at Princeton....should spend just like EARNED money in the economy and keep price pressures high so John Maynard and the Ghost of aggregate demand can jerk each other off in their graves.....

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 03:13 | 4002965 bunnyswanson
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Dress warm.  Tell me how it ends (and how defenseless you really are)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTiGlNDnOtE (Breaking Benjamin)

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 07:15 | 4003043 Mentaliusanything
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sansnobel,your on it. all of it is counterfiet.Take that drug and its over. Now back to Harry Weed.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 03:15 | 4002966 balolalo
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pinky, what are we going to do tonight?

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 03:27 | 4002973 TNTARG
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The show must go on.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 03:39 | 4002978 bunnyswanson
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Here is a song for anyone who is still up.

Knockin on Heaven's Door

Guns N' Roses

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1ZRBPA8SK0 Live in Tokyo

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 07:05 | 4003040 GetZeeGold
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If Bob Dylan was dead he'd be spinning in his grave.

 

But he's not so I'm sure he'll appreciate the royalties.....now that's capitalism bitchez!

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 09:09 | 4003139 GMadScientist
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Let's see if we can make him a Dylan-ynamo!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EMMZgwjGgA

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 03:37 | 4002977 Kirk2NCC1701
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423-0 ? Fuck me! Kinda says it all. And nobody pick up on this? Wow.

For all the heavy lifting the Tylers so, people need to raise the fucking bar, not walk around it. Sheesh.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 03:44 | 4002981 MsCreant
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Congress is a money laundering operation for the counterfitters. Control P, do not take you finger off the key.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 07:19 | 4003047 Mentaliusanything
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423 ...... to Zip.Tell me I'm dreaming. I'd like to see MSN spin that.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 08:11 | 4003082 GetZeeGold
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They would spin it but Harry is cowering naked under his desk rambling like a raving lunatic. Something about anarchists, hijackers, and arsonists....I can't make it all out.

 

Big shot of Thorazine and he'll be right as rain this afternoon. The cat's a trooper man.

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