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Mapping The (Dis)Honesty Of The World

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Reader's Digest wanted to know how honest world cities are, so it “lost” 192 wallets in 16 cities - that’s 12 wallets in each city - to see how many would be returned. Each wallet contained $50 equivalent of local currency, as well as a name, phone number, family photo, coupons, and business cards. The results, as IBTimes' Lisa Mahapatra illustrates are perhaps surprising. The US ranked well (with 8/12 wallets returned) but the troubled regions of Europe (Spain and Portugal) came a dismal last with only 2 and 1 wallets returned respectively.

 

The Wallet Experiment

 

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Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:21 | Link to Comment Scarlett
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Moving to Mumbai and marrying a gold-rich Indian...

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:32 | Link to Comment VD
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but when you go to pick up the wallet you get gang-raped in Mumbai. 

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:43 | Link to Comment Pladizow
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If you drop your wallet in San Francisco, kick it all the way home!

OK, wallets were returned, but did they contain everything?

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:50 | Link to Comment SafelyGraze
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"Reader's Digest wanted to know how honest world cities are, so it “lost” 12 wallets at each of the 12 federal reserve banks to see how many would be returned.

Each wallet contained $5 equivalent of local currency, as well as a name, phone number, and a 5-gram bar of gold bullion.

The results are perhaps surprising. The St Louis branch fared well (with 2/12 wallets returned) but the troubled regions (NYFed and SFFed) came a dismal last with 0 wallets returned.

Most surprising though -- somehow all of the 5-gram bars went missing."

I am shocked -- SHOCKED -- that this could happen.

 

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 22:08 | Link to Comment hedgeless_horseman
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Do people still carry wallets? 

  • Benchmade Mini Dejavoo
  • Rohrbaugh R9 Magazine
  • Phone
  • Money Clip with Cash, DL, CHL, and CC
Sun, 09/29/2013 - 22:17 | Link to Comment AssFire
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They don't mentioned that 7 of the "returned" wallets in NYC were actually found...

 shoved up dead guy's asses.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 22:16 | Link to Comment boogerbently
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No Asian countries represented......for obvious reasons.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 22:28 | Link to Comment nmewn
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They're having an "event" right now...everythings dropping like a rock. Wallets are a dime a dozen & everywhere.

Deh To Lo, they'll get back to us on their honesty ;-)

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 22:31 | Link to Comment Pool Shark
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Good thing they didn't try this in Washington DC; not only would the wallets not have been returned, but the credit cards would have been maxed-out...

 

 

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 22:36 | Link to Comment Jack's Digestib...
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What a good "experiment". Nevermind the fact that Asia, Africa, the Middle East, the Phillipines & Australia weren't represented, and between North and South America, only two cities were used in the study. Groundbreaking reporting right here (/sarc if only this wasn't what passes as good journalism in our Brave New World).

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 23:22 | Link to Comment TeamDepends
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And just who is this "Reader's Digest"?  Sure, they dropped these 12 wallets in these cities as reported then are honest about what happened next?  Somebody is out 50 Yankee Dollars per each non-returned unit.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 23:29 | Link to Comment BigJim
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Look, people, those 4 wallets that weren't returned were rehypothecated several thousand times and then used to short GLD. Fucking Readers Digest.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 00:11 | Link to Comment gmrpeabody
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I have a new found respect for NYC...

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 00:30 | Link to Comment LetThemEatRand
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Yes, Carlos Danger doesn't always return wallets.  But when he does, he does so on Zero Hedge.  He returns them right in to the Danger zone.  Right into.  

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 06:56 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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Vote for Carlos Danger......and you'll never have to deal with that nagging sense of shame again!

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 23:30 | Link to Comment andrewp111
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Somebody may also be out 50 yankee dollars on the returned ones as well. They didn't say what was missing from the returned ones, did they?

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 23:40 | Link to Comment TeamDepends
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Like the cut of your jib, andrew.  As you have probably pieced together by now, this is clearly a clever ruse to slip a wallet-nuke into one of the afore mentioned cities.  We need to work backwards people, time is of the essence!

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 00:37 | Link to Comment LetThemEatRand
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No worries.  The NSA is on the stolen wallets.  And everyone who comments on them. 

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 07:43 | Link to Comment KidHorn
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I'm pretty sure Mumbai is in asia.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 09:59 | Link to Comment czardas
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Jack - I thought the same thing.  How representative are these large cities of the countries?  New York is about as foreign to the US as Bombay and the dirth of data on non-Western culture (where corruption is institutionalize) makes this "survey" suspect.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 22:37 | Link to Comment knukles
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Did the one fabricated from foreskins get returned in Tel aviv?

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 06:57 | Link to Comment Mentaliusanything
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Could be a very valueable wallet... some day

I for one had no choice in the matter, and I'm not from the 7 tribes

should I add sarc on/ off

It worries me ........

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 07:55 | Link to Comment Bobbyrib
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"That's strange, the woman maxing out your credit card looks exactly like the former Speaker of the House."

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 00:09 | Link to Comment buttmint
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booger...good observation on your part, re: NO Asian cities represented. Ahem, a found wallet would be viewed at "Buddah doing good for them" and yes, you are quite right, they would order up some Sangsom and Coca Cola and have a helluva party.

This experiment oughta be repeated with $1k in the wallet in $20s and $10s. Hmmm?

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 02:59 | Link to Comment Uchtdorf
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When did the UN Security Council decide that India was no longer an Asian country?

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 03:44 | Link to Comment daemon
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"No Asian countries represented......for obvious reasons."

India is an asian country.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 22:20 | Link to Comment Lmo Mutton
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What is 1 magazine going to do for you when Aexis and his "ELF" weapon come calling?

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 22:31 | Link to Comment hedgeless_horseman
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1+1=13

I like those odds much better than having just my cock in my hand.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 22:41 | Link to Comment Jack's Digestib...
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I'm going to take a stab in the dark: Driver's License, Concealed Handgun License, Credit Cards.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 23:12 | Link to Comment U4 eee aaa
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Drop your wallet at the fed. The good news is you get your wallet back with all the currency. The bad news is that by the time you get it back the currency is worthless

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 04:25 | Link to Comment NoClueSneaker
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Dear Mr. Sheep ...

We have found your wallet . After lot of hard work we finally identified you and your adress .

For our effort we take small fee of $174,42 and you'll have your wallet in no time.

Sincerely yours,

Dowie Loot & Cheetham

 

 

 

 

 

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 03:11 | Link to Comment sodbuster
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Safely Graze- 

>"Reader's Digest wanted to know how honest world cities are, so it “lost” 12 wallets at each of the 12 federal reserve banks to see how many would be returned.

Each wallet contained $5 equivalent of local currency, as well as a name, phone number, and a 5-gram bar of gold bullion.<

Actually, all of the wallets were returned from the fed reserve banks- the gold was gone, but the wallets were stuffed with FRNs, with a note attached-"Please spend"

 

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 08:25 | Link to Comment Hail Spode
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How about ""Reader's Digest wanted to know how honest world cities are, so it “lost” 12 wallets at each of the 12 federal reserve banks to see how many would be returned.

Each wallet contained $5 equivalent of local currency, as well as a name, phone number, and a 5-gram bar of gold bullion.

The results are perhaps surprising.   Each federal reserve bank stole all the money and the gold and then rehypothicated it to near infinity so that it shows up on their books as a multi-billion dollar "asset"".

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 09:38 | Link to Comment Mike Hunt Hurts
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I found 4 of the "lost" New York wallets

$200.00 richer Bitches

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 14:25 | Link to Comment mickeyman
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The worst was China, where not only were none of the wallets returned, but someone stole the investigators' wallets as well.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:23 | Link to Comment prains
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Goes to show you there are decent people out there.....NYC who would of thought 8 out of 12 not me, impressive and Moscow as well. The shocker Zurich, Switzerland 4 out of 12 what a bunch of mopes and Mumbai with 9 was a wow!

Too bad Canada didn't get the test, but they would have done it in Toronto and it would have sucked.....as they usually do at most things

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:37 | Link to Comment Xibalba
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They must've not been in Queens

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:47 | Link to Comment e_goldstein
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or lower Manhattan.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:39 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Apparently they ran out of funding for the wallet experiment before they got to China, Australia & Africa too ;-)

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:51 | Link to Comment TheFourthStooge-ing
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Chinese citizenism duplicity led to the return of wallets as part of combination platter, stir fried in spicy ginger sauce with onions, panda toes, and straw mushrooms.

Welcome to an AnAnonymystical world. I would suggest to forget this in time.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 23:31 | Link to Comment Harbanger
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They were funded up to whatever point and result they wanted.  There's usually an agenda behind them that may not be obvious.  These "studies" are later quoted as science and fact to make whatever point needed.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 06:33 | Link to Comment malikai
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I found a cellphone in a cab in Beijing once. Before my wife could get a word in edgewise, I told the driver and gave him the phone. My wife was pissed.

She said to me: "Not only did you just give a free phone to the driver, but there will now be no chance that the phone gets back to its owner. You should have kept your mouth shut and we could have returned it ourselves. Then you could have been a model citizen today. Now you're just an idiot."

She's cruel sometimes, but I guess that's what it takes to get through my thick skull.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 07:00 | Link to Comment nmewn
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I found a wallet myself not to long ago (no money in it, on the side of the road).

The first thing I did was look for ID. It was a young black womans but from another town. The only phone numbers (on business cards) were to a loan officer at a bank and UF, probably for an employment app.

No luck, they didn't know her.

Well now I'm stuck with a wallet...lol.

I go to the local cop shop to turn it in. Nope, has to be the county cops. I'm like you gotta be kidding me. So I call them. They have to set up an appointment for a "Field Technician" to meet me. They're getting on my last Good Sumaritan nerve by now and I tell them so.

So, she finally arrives, late...I give her the wallet and she wants to know where I found it...which is fine...then she wants my information, cuz, ya know, thieves always return stolen/found wallets and make appoinments to return them to the cops...and wait for them to arrive...late.

I give it to her, yeah she's just doing her job...zombie. And I'm free of the wallet from hell.

The owner called me (I had left my cell number with the bank loan officer I found on the business card) about two months later asking if I had found her wallet. I said yeah and told her what agency had it now. Apparently the cops just tossed it in a drawer somewhere and never tried to find her.

I guess she got it back...no telling the aggravation she went through though when she went there...lol.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:44 | Link to Comment SuccorMoney
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Isn't Zurich a banking capital?  But so is New York, so I don't know.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:51 | Link to Comment Whatta
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We stayed at a hotel near the soccer stadium in Zurich...on game night. They probably dropped the wallet near that drunk and rowdy crowd and they bought more soccer hooligan beers with the money!!

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 22:21 | Link to Comment stacking12321
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i was surprised at the low rank of zurich.

zurichers seem honest, friendly, and helpful, at least when i was there.

though, it could be a fluke, 12 data points isn't a lot.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 23:27 | Link to Comment andrewp111
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Yeah, but the concentration of bankers is much higher in Zurich.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 23:53 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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The Swiss are really cheap... It's more of a matter of the cost of their time vs. ROI. Nothing personal, it's just business.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 04:27 | Link to Comment Acet
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Or putting things another way:

- If they came back for the wallets they would probably find it in the same place as they left them, or in a nearby trash can

By the way, did they actually contact some kind of local authority to try and find the wallet or did they just passivelly waited for it to get to them?

 

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:58 | Link to Comment merizobeach
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"who would of thought" [sic]

Please see the article that Tyler ran a few days ago about record low verbal scores.  ;-)

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 22:49 | Link to Comment Jack's Digestib...
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If they did this "experiment" in Canada, they would have had 14/12 wallets returned.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 01:34 | Link to Comment U4 eee aaa
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Of the four that weren't returned in NY:

They were taken by bankers, put on reserve in their fractional reserve banks and turned into 500K worth of loans. They would tell you that you should not complain because they are stimulating the economy with your money and thus keeping you in a job

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:24 | Link to Comment Arius
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did they try DC ?

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:28 | Link to Comment Croesus
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@ Arius:

They forgot to add HUGE red dots over Washington D.C., New York City, The City (London), and Tel Aviv.

 

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:29 | Link to Comment Pure Evil
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It would have been zero out of 12 if they dropped them over at Treasury. They would have thought they were just trying to help pay down the national debt while they shoved the fifties into their back pocket.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:27 | Link to Comment Van Halen
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They tried DC but the numbers came back -12/12. So the puzzled statisticians had to scratch that one.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:39 | Link to Comment Richard Chesler
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As they say in DC, you didn't steal that.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:28 | Link to Comment vintageyz
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They already have our wallets.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:51 | Link to Comment Son of Captain Nemo
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Probably not a good reason to as if it's returned Obama shows up to tell you "you didn't really own that"...

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:24 | Link to Comment sunnydays
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Switzerland?  Amazing, about the richest place on Earth and they kept the majority of the wallets.  Those who run the banks of the world live there, so really is there no wonder they will even steal $50 from a wallet, since they steal from everyone in the world every day by the billions.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:26 | Link to Comment prains
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Yes the places where $50 still means something is pretty evident, Zurich is a real shocker, unbelievable asshat capital of the world

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 22:23 | Link to Comment stacking12321
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no, you're interpreting it wrong. they saw the $50 and basically considered it an empty wallet, so they threw it away, so it wouldn't litter their fine city.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 23:26 | Link to Comment andrewp111
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If anything is surprising, it is that 4 were actually returned in Zurich. It is a city of Bankers, after all.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:25 | Link to Comment lewy14
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Twelve wallets per city is grossly insufficient. You'd need thirty to fifty, and even then carefully randomize over the geography and demographics of the city.

File under "plural anecdote". Not data.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:28 | Link to Comment prains
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random....yes......interesting......even more so

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 22:26 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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Correct, this was not good statistical sampling.  But, even anecdotal evidence like this reveals something.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 22:41 | Link to Comment knukles
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Beats the shit outta BLS statistics.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:25 | Link to Comment Van Halen
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The four unreturned wallets in NYC were found by bankers.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:26 | Link to Comment jballz
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so... what if the wallets had $500?

 

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:32 | Link to Comment mofreedom
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give it to obangies mother inlaw to smoke crack with.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 22:44 | Link to Comment knukles
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Isn't she the one living with them?  One of my crazy buds noted that they'd not seen the kiddies in a while so he drew the conclusion they were boiled in a big pot in the rosegarden and eaten at a parteeeee.

Just repeatin' what he suggested.
Then again, he's a bit off....

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 00:57 | Link to Comment Tall Tom
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So..Your honesty has a price? I have lost my wallet twice. Both times it came back with the Cash and the response, when offered a reward, "If I wanted your cash then I'd have kept it."

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:26 | Link to Comment wisehiney
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That was before oBUMMERcare.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:28 | Link to Comment Al Huxley
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When I was in Portugal (Lisbon specifically) you had to verify that the price on restaurant bill matched the price on the menu, that the change given to you at a restaurant or store of any kind was correct for the amount given and the price of the items purchased - if there was a way they could scam you then they would use it.  Never experienced anything like it, and that was in 1992.  So not sure their low rank has anything to do with the current financial situation of the country.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:40 | Link to Comment Arius
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interesting, thanks for sharing.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:50 | Link to Comment adr
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Um, that's called the dumb tourist processing fee.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 22:01 | Link to Comment merizobeach
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"tourist discount"

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 23:11 | Link to Comment Al Huxley
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Never had it happen me anywhere else in Europe.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 23:18 | Link to Comment U4 eee aaa
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Sounds like theft to me

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 23:24 | Link to Comment BigJim
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 Um, that's called the dumb tourist processing fee.

Yes, because only a dumb tourist would go back there. Talk about killing the goose....

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 22:20 | Link to Comment Broomer
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Their low rank *is the cause* of the current financial situation.

I'm speaking this from Brazil (4/12). This country is full of corruption.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:30 | Link to Comment Van Halen
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Newsflash: Obama just gave a speech where he stated that 0/12 is actually not a loss but a gain of 12 wallets... and $1000.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:51 | Link to Comment macholatte
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not a loss but a gain of 12 wallets...

 

saved or created wallets

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:55 | Link to Comment jim249
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That is $600. 12 x 50

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 23:28 | Link to Comment buyingsterling
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All the gains are bigger with Obama math.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:40 | Link to Comment holdbuysell
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Did Jamie Dimon find one? And?

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:49 | Link to Comment e_goldstein
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...that's why he's richer than you.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 23:32 | Link to Comment RaceToTheBottom
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His retort when accused of thieving was "Hey it is just part of the bailout"

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:42 | Link to Comment SuccorMoney
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How do you say,bless you, Finns, in Finnish?

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 22:39 | Link to Comment James
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How do you say,bless you, Finns, in Finnish? Terveydeksi
Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:42 | Link to Comment holdbuysell
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Reminds me of a joke I heard long time ago:

How was copper wire invented?

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:49 | Link to Comment adr
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Two large nosed people got in a fight over a penny.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 00:07 | Link to Comment ThirdWorldDude
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A 1%-er tried to smuggle a penny through a TSA checkpoint in his rectum. Upon discovery, it took TSA half an hour and a pair of tweezers to pull the penny out... 

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 23:35 | Link to Comment buyingsterling
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Who told the gorilla he couldn't go to the ballet?

The people in charge of the ballet.

(hat tip Louie C.K.)

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:46 | Link to Comment ThorAss
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Dishonesty of the World? Must be like the World Series ... One city in N. America, one in S. America, one in Asia, none in Australasia, and none in Africa with all the rest in Europe? (Yes, Moscow is in Europe and bananas are fruits, get over it!)

Should have been called the relative honesty of European cities with 3 control norms.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 22:11 | Link to Comment toadold
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I  would have liked to see a some  of the cities from Japan.  Say Nagasaki vs. Tokyo vs. Osaka. vs. Saphoro.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 06:07 | Link to Comment Big Brother
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Based upon my experience in working with Japanese, the cities would have been on par with the Finns.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:46 | Link to Comment Vendetta
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Give the people a break they couldn't afford to get the wallets back to the national lost and found.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:48 | Link to Comment adr
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My dad lost his wallet in NYC. It was returned with everything in it, including credit cards.

A week later $2800 in unauthorized charges appeared on his credit cards.

So while you might get the wallet back, it doesn't mean it wasn't misused. Criminals will return wallets and purses. If they are returned the owner might not cancel their credit cards, thinking everything is ok. If a wallet or purse is stolen and isn't found the first thing people do is make calls to their banks.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:49 | Link to Comment Magnum
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In Thailand it is not even possible that any wallet would be returned, the entire country and people do not know the concept of "lost and found" even at a children's school there is no such thing as lost and found.  Finders keepers, ALWAYS.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 22:42 | Link to Comment Tinky
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On a very different note, I recall once, many years ago, when I was trekking in the Annapurna region of Nepal. A fellow trekker left his Rolex at a well along the trail. He didn't realize it, and six hours later a Sherpa caught up with us to return it. He wasn't even heading in our direction, and was very reluctant to take a reward! I don't know how many years worth of salary the watch might have been worth to him, but it was astounding.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 22:49 | Link to Comment andrewp111
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He probably had no concept of what it was worth. A watch is a watch to him.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 22:51 | Link to Comment Tinky
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You are quite wrong. The explanation is both simpler, and much deeper than that.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 23:25 | Link to Comment BigJim
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He liked hiking?

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 01:06 | Link to Comment Tall Tom
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It seems that many miss the point of the grander scheme at play. Usually the simple concept is an expression of the deepest understanding. (F=ma; E=mc2

 

He was not "wrong". He might be unelightened, however.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 01:53 | Link to Comment chindit13
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I had a guy steal my sunglasses in India (it was a street shoe-shine guy who was pestering me to have my sandals polished, and while doing that pickpocketed a jet-lagged me). I happened to see a local constable just as the guy was running off with my glasses, and a few minutes later I was being chauffeured around the city on the back of a 125 cc police mo-ped, stopping at each and every street shoe-shine shop looking for the perp.  Of course we didn't find him, but the cop picked up about 20,000 rupees in "tributes" along the way from citizens.  In the end I felt obliged to "pay for gas" for his bag run.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 09:11 | Link to Comment Baldrick
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That's bullshit. I was at a Thai market in Bangkok a few years ago and dropped a wad of cash and an older woman chased me down and gave it back.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 22:16 | Link to Comment Cabreado
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Maybe the bigger issue is that we've devolved to the point where we're encouraged, and find it fine, to make judgements about "how honest are cities" from the results of dropping 12 wallets.

 

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 22:57 | Link to Comment stacking12321
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it's readers digest, FFS!

fluff entertainment, dont read so much into it.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 23:25 | Link to Comment Cabreado
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Underneath the fluff there is nearly always non-fluff to be had.

Other than that, rating "honesty" is not fluff by any means.
You have noticed, maybe, that false ratings of honesty is how we got here.

 

 

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 23:59 | Link to Comment stacking12321
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true.

rating honesty is not fluff, in and of itself.

but, readers digest is fluff in whatever it attempts, including rating honesty

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:50 | Link to Comment thewayitis
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  It also depends WHERE in the city you drop it......Such as in New York (Central Park VS 42nd Street) ....

 

 Big waste of time and $$$.....   Better off sent to homelesss shelters IMO

 

 

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:52 | Link to Comment jim249
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I would hope that the people who returned the wallets were given the $50.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:53 | Link to Comment Whatta
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They got a subscription to Readers Digest!

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 01:08 | Link to Comment Tall Tom
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There are far better rewards that Fifty Lousy Dollars.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:54 | Link to Comment Stuck on Zero
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The four wallets that weren't returned in New York City were dropped in front of the JPM headquaters.

 

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:54 | Link to Comment kchrisc
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But did they try to drop one at a central bank?!

They would take this "wallet loot" and convert it into interest bearing "loan loot," and then into title in real property as they repossess the "loan loot's" collateral, and then into "bail-out loot" from their government puppets who stole the loot from the wallet victim in the first place.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:56 | Link to Comment blindman
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Bap Kennedy (& Steve Earle) - Angel is the Devil

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4-X35Skk5I
.
this here might explain the secret to the
"success" of the federal reserve bank.
it's longevity and survival in the light of it's own
self inflicted defacement or debasement.
p
Feelin' Good - Levon Helm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2QYJ64iVWE

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 21:57 | Link to Comment are we there yet
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I just flew back today from Warsaw Poland. I found them to be very nice people. Glad to see that they rank well on this test. Also they kept their own currency and do not use the euro Despite being in NATO.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 22:08 | Link to Comment W74
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My people, my people.  I expected them to rank higher.  Perhaps several of the wallets were simply not found.

A lot of surprize at India actually.  Rest of the world, not so much.  I notice they didn't drop anything on the entire African continent, or in China.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 22:22 | Link to Comment Broomer
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It may be nothing sinister; only no Reader's Digest magazines sold in those places.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 23:34 | Link to Comment Vuke
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W74, in Africa I had a young fellow chase me for half a mile to return my change for a newspaper I had bought.  Judge not, lest ye be judged.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 07:38 | Link to Comment verum quod lies
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It is rather amusing to watch the dance around the 800lb. gorilla. The issue with cities like Berlin or Prague, where many/most of the people picking up the wallet are probably not native to that country and/or not representative of the general population and hence not representative of that culture in a control group sense, should be obvious. If they had actually dropped wallets in places like your typical African hellhole (e.g., Monrovia, Port au Prince,  or Detroit), most people would be surprised if any were returned by the locals, especially if they were African where the exercise itself wouldn't even make sense to them.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 08:19 | Link to Comment exodus11
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Non-natives and the natives are problems in Prague. The word "honesty" doesn't exist in the Czech vocabulary. Never did. Never will.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 22:57 | Link to Comment Zer0head
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so the dude (Prem Watsa) who wants to take BlackBerry private - he owns 10% of Blackberry and is known as Canada's Warren Buffet (LOL)

is the same dude who signed off on the $55 million exit clause for BlackBerry's CEO Mr. Thorsten Heins, that's the  same Thorsten Heins that was negotiating with the dude who owns 10% of the company and who signed off on his $55 million dollar change of control exit/parachute  clause

http://business.financialpost.com/2013/09/27/blackberry-ltd-thorsten-hei...

 

 

THERE IS NOTHING TO SEE HERE, PLEASE MOVE ALONG


Mon, 09/30/2013 - 07:18 | Link to Comment Mentaliusanything
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Please do not get upset over that, Downunder they form a consortium.bribe the polies, get a tunnel goingand walk away with the kitchen sink.  lots to learn on skimming down here.  Even the Reserve centrail bank stinks in Australia..... heard it here first.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 22:38 | Link to Comment Xploregon
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As a first generation American/Suomalainen (Finlander in Finnish)...and for all the raindeer manure I've been subjected to for years over my heritage, may I just say...na, na, na, na, nayaaaaaaaaa!

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 23:19 | Link to Comment moonstears
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American too(not Finnish descended, though), but agree you have the right to gloat your Finn genes here, Xplor...and you may be a hell of a rifle shot, too(think Simo Hayha).

Honest and deadly?

By the way if they'd dropped the USA one in the midwest or rural south, we'd have likely had even better numbers. JMO. Still, way to go NYC!

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 01:17 | Link to Comment Tall Tom
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I think that if that happened in San Diego, CA or the Pacific Northwest, or Salt Lake City that the numbers would be as high as the Midwest and Deep South.

 

Actually I am disappointed that the numbers in NYC were not higher as I would expect 11 out of 12 from most anywhere in the USA. I expect that Canada would have been 12 out of 12.

 

Just because we have pukes running our Government it does not mean that we are all a bunch of psychopaths. It means that far too many are far too trusting (a sign of honesty actually) and far too ignorant.

 

Doug Casey calls it the 80/20 Rule and I tend to agree from my anecdotal experiences.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 23:09 | Link to Comment stacking12321
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it still doesn't make up for the fact that your country unleashed ancient lake trolls upon the world:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0844577/?ref_=ttqt_qt_tt

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 22:40 | Link to Comment Judge Crater
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The four New York City wallets that were not returned were turned over to the police, who are above the law.  $50 more for the precinct beer fund. 

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 23:02 | Link to Comment andrewp111
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The article didn't say - was the cash still in the returned wallets?  I always take any cash and postage stamps before mailing found wallets back to their owners. Losing the cash is their just penalty for losing the wallet, but I always send the cards and other crap back - after handling the wallet with gloves and placing it in a fingerprint-free envelope.

I haven't found a wallet in over 20 years - since I was in college. College campuses seem to be where most wallets get lost.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 23:06 | Link to Comment MeBizarro
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What a douche. 

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 01:05 | Link to Comment Hengist
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You remind me of a guy I went to college with, I had just found an old man dead in the street (heart attack) and went to seek help at the local student union about a hundred yards away, the guy in question asked me whether I had looked for his wallet for the cash.  I'm sure he must be senior management somewhere by now.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 01:23 | Link to Comment Tall Tom
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Remind me not to ever enter a business deal with you, andrewp111.

 

If you can identify the owner of the property then the property does not belong to you. That is called STEALING. So you are a thief? What a puke. Thieves will be crucified, nailed to actual crosses during the next reset.

 

Thieves were those whom were crucified with Christ. Notice He did not take down the repentant thief that He forgave. That thief still suffered the Physical Consequences for his actions.

 

Enjoy the penalty andrewp111. You earned it.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 22:58 | Link to Comment delacroix
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I met 2 guys from alberta last year in san juan del sur nicaragua. they told me that a few nights prior, they had been drinking for several hours in a local bar. while the were walking back to their hostel they saw 2 guys following them. they started walking faster. the followers walked faster too, and started yelling something. the canadian guys didn't speak spanish, and got a little scared and started running. since they were kinda drunk, the guys following caught up to them within a block. when they were face to face, they could see that one of the guys was holding out a wallet, that they had left on the bar. on another note, a security guy at a club on the lake in granada lifted my wallet a few days earlier.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 23:01 | Link to Comment socalbeach
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If they had tried that stunt in L.A., 0/12 would have been returned. And there would have been 8 attempted home invasion robberies within a week.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 23:06 | Link to Comment MeBizarro
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What a pointless f@cking article due to the sample size and lack of randomization.  These kind of worthless (and meaningless) ones are exactly the kind you see way too often in the popular press because general public knows next to nothing about even the most basic statistics and most journalists are math-retarded. 

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 06:43 | Link to Comment Smiddywesson
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Yes, but we all know the point of the article was to get the dinosaur MSM mag to pay for their vacation.  So I guess the "study" made sense to someone.

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 23:15 | Link to Comment BullyBearish
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Poof...there goes the Greek!

Sun, 09/29/2013 - 23:53 | Link to Comment CharmaChameleon
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So how is it, precisely, that one knows any of the unreturned wallets were found? I'd say that's kind of germane to the experiment's validity.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 01:39 | Link to Comment U4 eee aaa
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They probably dropped them in high traffic areas. They also could have gone back the next day and checked the location

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 00:11 | Link to Comment Runs-With_Toast
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The poor Africans dont even have wallets

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 00:37 | Link to Comment malek
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They should have tried this in Greece 10+ years ago, I'm sure they'd gotten 12 wallets back.

Nowadays unfortunately I wouldn't expect it to still be the same...

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 00:56 | Link to Comment Hengist
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What everyone has missed is that some lucky journalist convinced their editor to go on all expenses trip around the world and lose these wallets. 

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 01:01 | Link to Comment draghithebearslayer
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do the same experiment in seoul, south korea, and i bet none will be returned, as local culture deems such decent act as idiocy.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 01:33 | Link to Comment trader1
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true story.

i once lost my wallet in the basel sbb train station.  <was in too much of a rush trying to pay my ticket and make the train.  thought i had slipped the wallet into my coat pocket, but alas....>

following a brief heart-dropping feeling, i called the lost and found after realizing it's not in the coat pocket while halfway through my trip to locarno.  i described the wallet and its contents, but the gentleman said: "sorry, but it seems that the person who returned the wallet took your cash."  well, it was less than 50 francs and all the more important stuff was still there.  a finder's fee, i guess.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 01:38 | Link to Comment U4 eee aaa
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What they didn't tell you is that they also dropped a wallet in the halls of congress. A congressman picked it up and gave it to a staffer to send back to you intact. You'll get you wallet back but, unfortunately, it will take about twelve years to get through all the bureaucracy.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 01:44 | Link to Comment chindit13
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Call me a cynic, but I'd be surprised if in an article written by Lisa Mahapatra, Mumbai didn't come out smelling like roses.

Also, you'll know it's really bad in the world when people return the money....but keep the wallet.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 01:45 | Link to Comment U4 eee aaa
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A friend of mine who just happens to have a brother as a cop found a wallet with something like $1,500 in it. She gave it to her brother to return on his advice(you'll see why) so he hunted down the guy and told him the wallet was found. The guy claimed he had about $1000 more in the wallet than was found in it so the brother had to tell him he found the wallet and that he was a police officer. The guy changed his story. Apparently, people with large sums of money found in their wallets (usually Asian because they like to carry lots of cash, not trying to be racial here) will often tell police there was more money in the wallet and then file a complaint against the person who turned in the wallet.

maybe that is why some people take the cash and chuck the wallet

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