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Ahead Of Vote, House Debates Latest Continuing Resolution Proposal - Live Webcast
With just over 4 hours left until the government shutdown deadline, following the earlier tabling of the previous bill passed by the House which delayed Obamacare by one year, the House has resumed debates on the Continuing Resolution, which as reported earlier will likely include a one-year delay in the individual mandate, and a measure eliminating some of the benefits that members of Congress and certain members of the executive branch would receive under the ACA.
As was further reported moments ago, Obama called Boehner and McConnell, and reiterated that "he will not negotiate on the debt limit, that Congress must pay the bills it has already incurred and avoid a devastating blow to our economy" adding that he would oppose any "politically-motivated attempts to defund or delay" Obamacare.
In response, Boehner said in a ten minute-long conversation that "Obamacare is costing jobs and that American families are being denied basic fairness when big businesses are getting exemptions that they are not,” according to Boehner's spokesman Brendan Buck. Whether this is the preamble to a clean CR bill, that is the only thing that may provide a quick way out from a government shutdown, will be determined in a few hours when the House finally votes on some proposed bill. Watch the debates on the
In terms of the current strategy, which is obviously changing by the minute, Stone McCarthy has learned that "one new scenario that we've heard today was that after a few days of a shutdown, House leaders would attempt to move a clean CR that would fund government through mid October, around the time Treasury expects to exhaust the extraordinary measures that allow it to create room to issue debt under the current debt ceiling. The thinking here is that Speaker Boehner could get more support for this approach from the Tea Party wing of the party after a few days of backlash from a shutdown. Also, he could offer the possibility of resuming the fight over Obamacare in the context of the need for a debt limit increase. Assuming the government is shut down tomorrow, we expect that the release of the August construction spending data will be postponed. If a shutdown persists for more than a day or two, we expect other releases to be postponed, including Friday's employment report."
Finally, here is the latest from The Hill:
Like sands through the hourglass: Congress is on the brink of forcing a government shutdown, and even at this writing, the chances appear pretty darn good that government workers will get the day off on Tuesday. So, outside of the House and Senate agreeing to a bill that provides a short-term extension of current spending levels, the government will shut down at midnight and remain closed until there's a deal.
There could be some more ping-ponging back and forth across the Capitol, but there's no question that time is ticking away.
The back-and-forth between the chambers and growing chances of a shutdown roiled stock markets on Monday, too.
After the Senate killed amendments on a bill passed by the House late Saturday night, House GOP leaders teed up a stopgap spending measure that would delay the individual mandate of President Obama’s healthcare law for a year.
The plan also would strip out subsidies in the law for members of Congress, their staffs and political appointees.
Votes are expected on Monday night, and with precious hours left before the end of the day, there seemed little reason to expect that the House could pass a "clean" continuing resolution (CR) before the deadline.
Still, despite all the gloom, there are flickers of hope as some Republicans are calling for a "clean" CR for now to avert the shutdown.
Centrist Reps. Charlie Dent (R-Pa.) and Peter King (R-N.Y.) urged leadership to pass a funding bill without the healthcare riders.
"The hourglass is nearly empty, and it’s time that we pass a clean CR," Dent said.
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Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) and other members of his conference floated several proposals on Monday to avoid a government shutdown, including a one-week stopgap spending measure.
Based on what happens next, Senate leaders would need unanimous consent to approve any bill sent from the House before midnight.
Tick, tock, tick.
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Gee, will they be wise, or will they do the right thing?
No and No.
Do I win something?
fuck this shit
Double fuck this shit.
More cans to kick.
Perhaps the parties could reach a compromise solution by agreeing to take away more rights and freedoms from the people instead.
That way there is something in it for everyone.
Boner should have been sending over piecemeal bills since the first of the year for an up or down vote.
He's a traitor.
"As another Lame Cherry exclusive in matter anti matter........
As all of you have no idea what is going on with this Fang Jinn regime shutdown, it is time to expose this as only as this blog does by God's Grace.
Upon inquiry, there is not going to be a shutdown. Focus on this in the reality that both the Rovians and Obamites want that huge theft of the American Treasury to continue in the government programs their conglomerates all make trillions off of.
The stage theater taking place now is to keep you from revolting in thinking something will happen for your American interests, before collapsing in defeat showing you there is nothing that can be done."
(h/t to Freddie)
Population reduction by class warfare. It will get brutal.
For a more satisfying viewing experience let me recommend ...
Neil Cavuto Destroys Obama Over Blatant ObamaCare Lies (3 min)
Mon, 09/30/2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCVNoyWoqxA&feature=youtu.be
Exactly what classes? The Zerohedge 99k millionaires, versus the ghetto rats? Hardly.
The 1% versus anyone hardly?
It will be the poor versus the poor for crumbs...... While the 1% get richer selling malt lickher, rolling papers, and designer Nikes, and building larger prisons.....
Exactly what classes? The Zerohedge 99k millionaires, versus the ghetto rats? Hardly.
The 1% versus anyone hardly?
It will be the poor versus the poor for crumbs...... While the 1% get richer selling malt lickher, rolling papers, and designer Nikes, and building larger prisons.....
@The Alarmist: It's not a matter of being wise or not. This is all theatre and drama... they will yet again come with a compromise "solution" in extremis. Let's take a bet: 11:55 p.m.? 11:59 p.m.? Lots of time still.
It's all Bullshit!!!
Yes, if government shutdown...i'm looking at a 1,000% return in 2 day investment!!!How about them ables :-)
Act rationally : fuck the debt ceiling and fuck Obamacare.
Not raising the debt ceiling is NOT A FUCKING DEFAULT.
All these politicians taking the podium are lying their asses off either because they are fucking idiots and believe their own bullshit or are just outright lying to protect their rotten party/president/house/senate leader. Fuck em all. Whoever is working for Obama, Boehner or Reid can DIAF.
Obamacare > designed to fail for the new fix... universal singer payer healthcare.
Yep. That was the plan all along... Obamacare will not fix anything. The rape by the medical cartel has just begun. Obamacare is just the first step. After that, the cartel will become even BIGGER when the health care budget comes directly from the treasury and grows exponentially every single year.
Just an example in Quebec... the health care budget will go up by 30% in the next 5 years. 65% of the budget in Canadian provinces will be only health care by 2037 (best case scenario)... Totally insane and unsustainable.
The only thing worse would be if some in the GOP tried ramming immigration reform up our ass now
these asslickers
if only one could see the adjustments Boner, Pelosi and the rest of the legal insiders club made to their stock portfolios prior to the close today
judging by the late day bounce ...
Listen fucking democrats : COMPROMISING WITH YOUR BULLSHIT SHOULD NOT BE AN OPTION. You're driving the country into the ground. Fuck compromising on that... do you compromise with cancer? Fuck no.
RINOs are not much better. There should be a third party in there, for a balanced budget, for not raising the debt ceiling, for cutting Obamacare... and not to do it for political capital but to do it for political philosophy reasons... the tea party doesn't even come close...
COMPLY COMRADES!!!
It's just all show-a circus! Pass the popcorn and lets have another drink!
Cheers!
AIM Surplus will still be open tomorrow. That's all that really matters.
There's the Tea Party reference...these pricks are so predictable. Can't wait until another POS CongressCritter complains that they have to work 'overtime'. Overpaid scum...
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/09/28/VA-Dem-Whines-About-Doing-Job-in-Congress-Way-to-Spend-a-Saturday-Night
If they don't like politics, they can fuck off. I'll do their fucking job and vote the right fucking way. Not with party, but for country.
Burn baby, burn.
there are 6 people at the HORs?
Dolphins
Saints
I'm going with the Saints, if for no other reason that the game is being played in New Orleans.
Treason is coming.... The only upside, if we're lucky, could be Boehner getting kicked out and someone with more backbone and tea party getting leadership...
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/09/30/first-on-cnn-moderate-ho...
Moderate House Republicans who want to fund the government with no strings attached are working to line up votes against a House GOP plan to renew federal coffers while chipping away at Obamacare, multiple GOP sources involved in the effort tell CNN.
Rep. Charlie Dent, R-Pennsylvania, Rep. Peter King, R-New York, and others are feverishly making calls to stage what would effectively be a revolt.
They say they are hoping there are enough GOP members like them who are fed up with the tactics of the leadership that they can find enough votes to defeat the first procedural measure, known as the rule.
That would prevent the House GOP leadership from even bringing their plan up at all.
Given the makeup of the GOP caucus, these House Republican moderates would need in the ballpark of 20 Republicans to agree to defy their leadership, and be willing to face what will undoubtedly be the wrath of the conservative grassroots.
They probably want the delay in various reports that are due. More time for wickedness.
The debt ceiling and default?
When was the last time a central bank failed to print?
We won't default, we just won't incur NEW debt (and since one mans debt is another persons income...) lol
Watching this, what a bunch of assclowns!
How many asswipes do the american people have to listen to
Transport in America after the crash......
http://safeshare.tv/w/vwncRciSFb
Go away, Congress is 'batin'!
These ass clowns will fuck us over, guaranteed.
You know the 1% Elites got to get their gravy and have their way.
In contrast, about 1% of Senate and House of Representatives members give a shit about their constituents.
The rest are bought and paid for and in the pockets of the Banking, Insurance, Legal, and other corporate interests.
The Bernank has licked their boots for 7 years. "They" aren't going to wreck his last 3 months with a crash. I look for more printing as a goig away gift to The Bernank for his fine service.
LOL.