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Boehner On Delaying Obamcare: "It's What The People Want"

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"Listen to the American people," is the cry from House Speaker Boehner this morning as both side prepare to defend the decisions that this ping-pong lawmaking continues to point to. With government shutdown looking increasingly likely, Boehner prods the Senate that 'the people' "don't want a government shutdown and don't want Obamacare."

 

 

Via Speaker.gov,

On the House floor this morning, House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) challenged Democratic leaders in the Senate to listen to the American people – who don’t want a government shutdown and don’t want ObamaCare – and pass the House’s plan to delay the president’s health care law and repeal the medical device tax:

 

“Mr. Speaker, my colleagues, as I travel around my district and around the country, the American people are worried about their job, they’re worried about their incomes rising, because they’re all under pressure. The economy's not growing. Why isn't it growing?

 

“One of the issues that’s standing in the way is ObamaCare. The fact that nobody knows what the rules are, employers scared to death to hire new employees, cutting the hours of many of their current employees, and for what reason?

 

“This law is not ready for prime time. The House has done its work. We passed a bill on Saturday night, sent it to the United States Senate that would delay ObamaCare for one year, and would eliminate permanently the medical device tax that is costing us tens of thousands of jobs that are being shipped overseas.

 

Senate decided not to work yesterday. Well my goodness, if there’s such an emergency, where are they? It's time for the Senate to listen to the American people just like the House has listened to the American people and to pass a one-year delay of ObamaCare and a permanent repeal of the medical device tax.”

 

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Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:16 | 4005744 ultraticum
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<-- Please shut .GOV down for good – I would thrive without it.

<-- Being a full or partial ward of the State, life would be tough without .GOV.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:20 | 4005761 Tim Knight from...
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The comments system of ZH will need exponents to count the number of upvotes you get.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:26 | 4005783 hedgeless_horseman
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Obamacare guarantees profits and eliminates competition for the Health Insurers, just like the Federal Reserve Act did for banks.

The fine print, Section 2718 of the Public Health Services Act,
implements the minimum medical loss ratio requirement, aka guaranteed
profit requirement.

Bribery is legal in the USA because we call it campaign finance. 

Bribery is an act of giving money or gift giving that alters the behavior of the recipient. Bribery constitutes a crime and is defined by Black's Law Dictionary as the offering, giving, receiving, or soliciting of any item of value to influence the actions of an official or other person in charge of a public or legal duty.

Fascism, by any other name, is still fascism.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:31 | 4005803 Enslavethechild...
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The American people DO want the Government to shutdown. Permanently.
Please shut down.
Please shut down.
Please shut down.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:35 | 4005831 Boris Alatovkrap
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But, but, but,... if no government, who is save AmeriKa citizen from self!? AmeriKa citizen is not know what to do and only can watch X-Factor and Real Wives of <insert name of degenerate population center> or play with i<insert name of distraction handheld electronic device>.

... Hmmmm, maybe close government AmeriKa citizenry is not notice until  cannot is buy 32oz soda with EBIT card?

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:50 | 4005921 redpill
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TOOL needs to pen a follow up to Aenema for Washington DC.  Learn to swim, see you down in West Virginia Bay!

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:59 | 4005959 Buckaroo Banzai
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Hey Boehner, you dipshit. America doesn't want Obamacare delayed, they want it fucking ELIMINATED.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 13:24 | 4006114 kralizec
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Hey, easy on his Royal Orangeness...it's not easy for a carrot-colored tard to know something let alone anything!

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 13:31 | 4006165 Blammo
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You're gonna make him cry again, you know!

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 13:50 | 4005924 LawsofPhysics
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Come on HH, you know that nothing is guarranteed (especially when fraud is the status quo).  There is a reason why neither party is talking about the funding for this bill.  The country is insolvent, there are no "markets" and the fascists behind the scenes will do as they please until they are executed.  It's that simply folks...

The world has ben here before, the the outcome will be no different this time around.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 13:59 | 4006273 Seer
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"the outcome will be no different this time around"

EXCEPT, this time it's global, and humanity will not again see some cyclical rise.  And This is the reason why we need to stop focusing on all the BS nonsense and start trying to figure out how we're going to world more closely ruled by Mother Nature than the (human) Authoritarians.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:29 | 4005804 espirit
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Idiocracy.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:35 | 4005836 Boris Alatovkrap
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When citizenry of country is more care for hand held distraction, is iDiocracy.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:44 | 4005881 espirit
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Is very good, Boris.  +1

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 13:59 | 4006276 Seer
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Boris have something against masturbation?

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 15:48 | 4006773 espirit
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iTools are mental masterbation.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:26 | 4005794 rogeliokh
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"Like house listen the American people" right, American People with Income 300k+ Are they even care what is the Health Insurance Costs.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:32 | 4005819 SilverIsKing
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Sure they do.

If you live in Manhattan and earn $300k, you're just making it.

If you live in Manhattan with a family and earn $300k, you are poor, if you can even afford to live there.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:38 | 4005844 ceilidh_trail
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fomc= ananonymous? fomc are not a mericun or cunt spall...why u evening care?

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 13:16 | 4006067 rogeliokh
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Yeah, Reps are war maniacs only care about Wall Street millionaires.
Americans deserve president like Tom Cruz who's recently rant all kind of bullshit whole night long, what a physco.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:43 | 4005890 slaughterer
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Boehner will cave in.  He always does.  Just wait until 11.59.599999pm when the secret session with Obama ends.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 13:01 | 4005970 Buckaroo Banzai
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I'm quite confident that Obama has pictures of Boehner drilling naked boys.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 13:02 | 4005982 Crash Overide
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Shut the government for good and turn over the buildings to the public to create schools, restaurants, library's, etc...

Leave a core group in place to manage US infrastructure, international relations, and the military... get rid of the rest.

It's the right thing to do.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 14:02 | 4006294 Seer
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"Leave a core group in place to manage US infrastructure, international relations, and the military... get rid of the rest."

Yeah, no full pregnancies!  Just a little pregnant should be just fine, "trust us ["core managers"]."

It's the System!  As long as there's levers of power then those levers will be prized and subsequently abused.  For fuck's sake, hasn't this been documented well enough by now?  We STILL can't figure it out?

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:17 | 4005745 Hundred Dollar Bonus
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We want waivers!

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:39 | 4005849 Normalcy Bias
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I'm thinking of becoming 'Amish.' Who the hell are they to tell me what religion it is that I practice?

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:49 | 4005919 kralizec
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Are they pacifists?  I want something that honors the kicking of asses that deserve to be kicked!

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 14:07 | 4006311 Seer
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All we really need is a piece of paper saying how "exceptional" we are!  We can then soar!  There's no end what we can do if we can make everything up!

Who needs tin foil when simple paper can do it all?

Origami Nation!

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:18 | 4005747 The Heart
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WHOOPIE-DOO!

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:29 | 4005814 pods
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Yep, theater is all this is.

Maybe he will cry a little at the climax?

Then they will raise the ceiling, delay this for a year and revel in how they made a tough decision.  
Whole thing is a charade because nobody knows what is going on. We just had an impromptu meeting here at work last week because we had to be notified of this debacle before Oct 1st. If this thing goes live the wheels will come off.

Nobody knows what is going on except the insurance companies are raising rates to account for what nobody knows.

Gigantic CF of Godzilla proportions.

pods

 

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:41 | 4005860 ceilidh_trail
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Yep. As a direct care providor being buffeted by this BS, I know how true your words are. We are all expecting nothing but chaos. I think chaos and failure are the real goals.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 14:16 | 4006355 Seer
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"I think chaos and failure are the real goals."

I don't think that it's anyone's "goal."  It is, however, a absolute certainty based on nature and the real, physical world.

It's all readily explainable given our fundamental policy of perpetual growth on a finite planet.  By NOT focusing on this, by focusing on trying to fix the flawed (human) system, we're doing the same as all these folks- kicking the can down the road...

To put things in perspective- I recently heard that 750 MILLION Indians (East Indians) live on approximately $0.50/day.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 13:15 | 4006059 ITrustMyGut
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straight, agenda driven, kabuki theater

 

ORDO AB CHAOS

we will shut down ( I am affected as well )

it will last 2+ week

we will have chaos when combined with the debt ceiling debacle..

we just might see.. a new brand of order offered as the solution..

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:19 | 4005748 Quinvarius
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I can't wait to hear the details of the agreement he has already made to allow Obamacare to go forward, increase US spending, and raise the debt limit.  Wait--Those are the details.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 14:19 | 4006366 Seer
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Isn't Japan now looking at raising both taxes and spending?

The System is un-fixable.  Imagine what kind of response you'd hear from people if you came out and stated this reality.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:18 | 4005752 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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Where's Harry (g)Reid when you need him?

How long does it take to go through brown paper bags and count the dough man?

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:18 | 4005755 WarHorse
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Harry Reid can suck it

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:28 | 4005800 azzhatter
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This putrid cretin Reed should be euthanized just so we don't have to see his smarmy face any longer. And take Boehner with you

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 14:23 | 4006378 Seer
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And TPTB will just reload...

At the end of the day we STILL have a System that is unable to deliver perpetual growth on a finite planet.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:18 | 4005756 TaperProof
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Come on Boner, do something right for a change.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:26 | 4005798 Miss Expectations
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With a name like Boner, you can expect only one thing.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:20 | 4005757 Devotional
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<----- ban governments

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 14:52 | 4006499 Seer
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Pleased to see that more and more people are waking up!

Unfortunately, being hopelessly idealistic, I believe that people should be free to do whatever they wish as long as they do not forcefully coerce others.  This would mean that people can be free to form governments just the same as they would be free to worship crocodiles.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:20 | 4005764 Pig Circus
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We all know the Boner will cave. Looks like the market knows it also.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:37 | 4005840 Devotional
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he said "boner" .. hhehehhee mmmggh hhehe

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:20 | 4005769 f16hoser
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"It's What The People Want" WOW! Politicians listening to the People! I'm Fucking Stunned!

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 15:41 | 4006735 Seer
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Bullshit.

"People" is always the people that any/all of these fuckers cater to.  "We the people" was fictitious from the start, and it was ALWAYS meant to instill powers in TPTB.

All these dick-heads are just running around telling us what we should want.  And, I'm tired of "wants," it's time we start understanding and focusing on "needs." (one clearly that we do NOT "need" govt)

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:23 | 4005778 jrpuffnstuff
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And I want to eat popcorn sitting on the toilet while getting a blow job from a midget.  When you gonna get me that bitch?  I want a gubment check to fund that

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 15:43 | 4006741 Seer
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Me?  Nothing quite so complicated.  No, my requests are pretty simple- all I want is exactly what the banksters (and defense contractors) are getting, there's already a clear formula and pipeline set up, should be easy to just roll this out my way, no?

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:22 | 4005779 Moe Hamhead
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Pity the irrelevant.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:25 | 4005786 Conax
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'the people' "don't want a government shutdown and don't want Obamacare."

Well, he's half right.  That's not bad for a politician.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:31 | 4005816 BeetleBailey
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Exactly.

Shut MOST of the god damned gubbermint down to the fuckin GROUND - and stomp the living shit out of what is total shit (about 70% of it).

...and FUCK ObamaNOFuckingCarePayDayForTheFuckingWankingInsuranceCompaniesCARE!

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:30 | 4005809 Possible Impact
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The people want Brawndo, it's got Electrolytes!

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:33 | 4005829 radfish
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I just want no government.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:36 | 4005841 traderjoe100
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How strange (and refreshing) to hear a politician talk about what the people want - seems like none of them have cared at all, for years and years.

 

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:52 | 4005928 Toolshed
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and still don't

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 15:45 | 4006752 Seer
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Only Party Pussies believe anything coming out of the mouth of a politician...

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:38 | 4005843 Diamond Jim
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since when does Boner (or anyone in CONgress) actually listen to the "cries of the people"...if he had we would not have Obamacare, Frank-Dodd, excessive regulation and soon to be taxation, unlimited government, NSA, and another  increase in the national deficit to deal with now. Just keep kicking the can down the road...increasing the stress on this economy and on the taxpayers in this country. It is sure to erupt. And Prez Owe gets what he wants...complete Fed control to bring this nation down to its knees and bend to the will of a new world gov't.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 15:55 | 4006800 Seer
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"And Prez Owe gets what he wants...complete Fed control to bring this nation down to its knees and bend to the will of a new world gov't."

Link?

TPTB had everything already.  WTF do you think they felt the need to change anything?  Ever occur to folks that there is shit in play that presents a BIG threat to all of it?  Hint: it AIN'T the masses (like they've ever been a threat?)  When you finally figure it out you'd see that neither the existing system (in ANY state/condition) or any "new world govt" is even possible in the future.

The Fed, as I've suggested, is actually doing us a favor by sucking up a bunch of shitty assets and will collapse carrying them.  The Fed, you should know, is not a full-fledge part of "We the People."  Folks rather have another entity slurping up the shit?  This has "debt Jubilee" written all over it: it's the ONLY way "out."  And no, I'm not defending the Fed; as I say, I only defend LOGIC.

Nationalism is on the rise.  Quite the opposite of "new world order," consolidation of governing powers.  Further, in order for any such NWO to exist you'd have to have the buy-in of the big resource countries such as Russia and Saudi Arabia.  NWO is another stupid idea that can ONLY fail (and not even likely get one foot forward): and all bad systems/idea ultimately fail.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:38 | 4005853 omantrader
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tea party = 49ers wanting to replay 2013 Super Bowl. Fuckin idiots.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:52 | 4005934 ceilidh_trail
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Coming from a bankster such as yourself I can't say I'm surprised. You made your living off of sucking the life out of this country. And now, you still don't see the need to stop the credit party? Good Lord!

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:42 | 4005870 azzhatter
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Boner looks like he's already had a couple of martini's for breakfast

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:50 | 4005918 carbonmutant
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Who's Holding Who Hostage?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BVbCfTwCUAA8mt8.jpg

 

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:52 | 4005929 Van Halen
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Shut down THIS government.

START UP a government based on the Constitution which works fine when Socialism isn't applied to it.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 15:58 | 4006809 Seer
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Right, with 300+ million and a drastically depleted resource base (that's heavily in debt and unable to generate enough to pay off those debts, let along engage in major reinvestment activities).

Now then... banksters have the money and the people don't.  This is the definition of "socialism?"

If you're a REAL man then you'd advocate for NO govt.  But, just like all others who want cake and to be able to eat it (at the cost to others), you have to have a govt to serve YOUR interests, and do so without any "regulations," even the ones that would protect "you," and without YOU paying any taxes!

Fucking clowns!

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:53 | 4005933 Conax
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He ain't as orange as he used to be, and he never even clouded up once..

WTG, John.  I actually agreed with what he said, but he should have made it the whole enchilada, and went for the repeal of Broncocare.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:01 | 4006811 Seer
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And people are still listening to what they say rather than watching what they do...

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:54 | 4005941 Cosmicserpent
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I don't give a shit about Obamacare. I what I want to see is Boner immolate himself on the capitol steps on live teevee.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:02 | 4006816 Seer
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Would be great if they'd ALL get together for one big funeral pyre! (if you wanted to get Green Arrows substitute "Obama" for "Boner," as many people here seem to think that there's a difference [or they liked to get fucked by one vs the other])

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:55 | 4005946 Dre4dwolf
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Honestly Obama-care is a short term 1 year "hit up the insurance companies for some health - care in exchange for a future bailout of the health insurance industry".

"give us health care and we give you free money later" kinda deal.

 

America is sick

-Most Obese

-Most Heart Disease

-Most mental health issues

-Most number of people on some kind of drug

 

The real problem is that America is unhealthy, as in the life-styles in America, the quality of food , the quality of water, etc.... are all chronic.

 

GMOS causing untold sickness, we don't even know how its impacting people, and soo many new diseases have popped up since we started eating GMO, probably one of the leading causes of sickness in this country.

 

Factor in the poor health standards on things like building materials etc.... they still sell asbestos filled materials.

 

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 13:12 | 4006046 JR
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The key part of Boehner’s talk was the admission that the House had listened to the people. It goes without saying that the House leadership, Boehner and Cantor, would have rubber stamped Obamacare in a second to smooth over their other priorities, but the screams of the people when Congressmen returned to their districts earlier this month even pushed some House members to suggest that to fund Obamacare could cost Boehner the Speaker’s job.

There’s no love lost for Congressmen of either party by the people, but these Congressmen are there to do the people’s business, whether they do or don't.  And it is satisfying at this point to see Boehner respond to the will of the people - to keep his job.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 13:45 | 4006223 Diamond Jim
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This whole fiasco is not just about Obamacare.....it is really about: (1)the excessive spending in DC; (2) a more or less single party of entrenched politicians that will do anything to stay in power; (3) the desire of those in entitllements to cash checks and debit cards to keep it coming; (4) those in the Executive Branch to re-distribute wealth in this country, (5) and a society that cares more about American Idol than what goes on in DC. The "Tea Party" movement is the last chance to save this country....it is outraged by the shinanigans of DC. It is unfortunate that it has to happen now, but the line in the sand must be made some time, might as well be now before we totally lose control of the situation and go the way of Detroit. STOP THE DAMN SPENDING !!!!

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 14:22 | 4006371 Lord Koos
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Actually polls showed that only 7% of the American people want to see a delay in Obamacare taking effect.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 15:47 | 4006771 peter4805
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And the other 93% want it scrapped entirely.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 14:22 | 4006380 LawyerScum
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Boner is holding out so he can surreptitiously place spray on tan subsidies into the bill.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:06 | 4006829 syntaxterror
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The Free Shit Army wants its $300 billion in free healthcare subsidies this year.

 

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