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Gold, Silver Surge As Bank Of France Announces "No Gold Sale Plans"

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It seems the earlier rumors that the Bank of France may be selling its gold - which had weighed on the price of precious metals this morning in the face of increasing uncertainty among the most indebted nations on the world - have been officially denied. As Bloomberg reports:

  • *BANK OF FRANCE HAS NO PLANS TO SELL GOLD, GAUTIER SAYS

And sure enough, Gold and Silver prices just screamed higher.

 

 

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Mon, 09/30/2013 - 10:57 | 4005436 gratefultraveller
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the above would be a good denomination for the paper gold price - the eprice

edit: oops, got corrected before posting

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 10:59 | 4005449 hedgeless_horseman
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These French bankers that are now unwilling to trade gold for Euros do not understand the political capital invested in Europe.  They vastly underestimate what the Euro means for the Europeans, for the Euro area.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:03 | 4005459 LawsofPhysics
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Ha!  Where have we seen/heard this before, think... think...

(something about when fraud is the status quo, and possession being the law)...

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:04 | 4005464 Ham-bone
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French have no plans to sell French gold...now French held German gold, that's another story...

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:07 | 4005473 Bobbyrib
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That's a good way to get invaded through the Ardennes again.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:22 | 4005520 Pinto Currency
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Silver jumped 20 minutes before gold.

Perhaps the Bank of France said something about silver.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:26 | 4005553 Stuart
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Now, if they too would only ask for any gold held offshore to be repatriated...

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:31 | 4005580 Sofa King Confused
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Speaking of France... I have a French Berthier for sale.....never fired...only dropped twice.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:35 | 4005599 BigJim
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Finally. a PM-related ZH article for me to spam!

How about signing a petition requesting Bart Chilton resign from the CTFC and become a whistleblower with regards to silver manipulation?

http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/bart-chilton-resign-go-public-on-sil...

Come on Tyler(s), rally the ZH masses!

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:39 | 4005620 SWRichmond
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After what the French had to do to get their gold from us, was it ever likely they'd sell it?

People are dumb.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 14:00 | 4006285 Analyse2
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@Sofa King Confused
You have to be an ignorant idiot, or a delusional loon to think that's a valid comment.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:08 | 4005476 bigbucksr
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JC Penney?

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:42 | 4005875 jimmytorpedo
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Up 10 down 5 is screaming higher?

I can't wait to see what they write when it goes up $5000/oz

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 13:40 | 4006209 Jannn
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Must read: Building a strong economic and financial security barrier for China

http://koosjansen.blogspot.nl/2013/09/building-strong-economic-and-finan...

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:02 | 4005461 Xibalba
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so....back to flat? I guess in the age of mass manipulation if it's not red it's 'screaming higher'

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:10 | 4005486 Canadian Dirtlump
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absolutely. until the ponzi casino burns to the ground, we're fukked. it is somewhat perverse to want the shit to hit the fan, but it's baked into the cake and I'm as ready as I can be so let's goddamn roll already.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:28 | 4005565 greatbeard
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>> I'm as ready as I can be so let's goddamn roll already.

Ain't that a crying shame? I know when the shit hits the fan it's not going to be pretty for anybody, but I find myself cheering it on.  If there was any option but a rebuild from a crash and burn I'd have hope, but, IMO, there's no other option.  Sucks when the greedy mother fuckers who already have more than they, their kids and their kid's kids could spend in a lifetime, no matter how much they squander, continue to amass more, at an extreme cost the the rest of society.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:39 | 4005616 Canadian Dirtlump
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My brother and I talk about this sort of thing a fair bit. The reality is, we can't survive forever, but we can survive longer than most - long enough for whatever happens next to happen. I'm not expecting Mad Max where I exchange a mercury dime for a blowjob and a bag of groceries, but for sure we're going to have varying interruptions.

 

As for the 1 tenth of one percent, absolutely. This bullshit self serving system will collapse under its own weight, and the assholes who caused it will likely be fine. With any luck we can get some french revolution action going.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:43 | 4005627 SWRichmond
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exchange a mercury dime for a blowjob and a bag of groceries

Who needs groceries?

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:57 | 4005670 Enslavethechild...
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Right now you can get a blowjob for a piece of paper.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:54 | 4005945 dark pools of soros
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You can get some anal for diamonds

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 13:00 | 4005971 Race Car Driver
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I guess one asshole's as good as the next if you're rich and queer.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:10 | 4005718 greatbeard
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>> survive longer than most - long enough for whatever happens next to happen.

When I lived in the city, a city that was about half ghetto, I figured I'd be ok if I could hold out for two weeks.  In a couple of days all the mom and pop groceries and convenience stores would be stripped, then after aout 5 days all rations would be gone.  A week or two without grub and even the meanest gansta thug is meek.

I'm not expecting anything max max like, but I do think densely populated, especially lower income areas, will be dangerous hang outs. 

Even here in the stix, if things got really bad, say no grid or no diesel fuel, people are no more prepared than city folks, they're just more dispersed.  The only downside to being on a hobby farm in the stix, afaict, is the folks are a better shot.  Everybody is armed to the teeth anymore, be it city or country, but the country folks get to target shoot all day Sunday in the front yard. 

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:04 | 4005466 akak
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Yes, the negative consequences of the imposition of any ball-and-chain tend to be underestimated --- at first.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:06 | 4005472 synergize
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They vastly underestimate what the Euro means for the German industry European Industry.  Also, the Euro guarantees the bureaucratic jobs of thousands of EU representatives - these people support the businesses of breweries, pubs, high-end restaurants, and gentleman's clubs around Europe.  We NEED the Euro

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:56 | 4005669 xtop23
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$22/oz Ag continues to be aggressively defended.

Screw you, Gensler. 

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:05 | 4005469 Dismal Scientist
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In what world can you say a $10 move in Gold, ie: LESS THAN 1%, is 'Screaming Higher' ?

That's right, in ZeroHedge world. Just as biased and capable of misreporting as CNBC.

Congrats Tyler, you have become that which you sought to criticise...

 

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:08 | 4005482 Racer
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When it is usually manipulated lower at ever opportunity, especially in very thin middle of the night trading

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:37 | 4005608 Pinto Currency
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Perhaps the headline could have been "... Silver Screams Higher, Gold Later Follows on Bank of France News of No gold Sale Plans"

 

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:22 | 4005535 Oracle of Kypseli
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<<Screaming>> has to do with speed rather than %.  

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:37 | 4005602 Deo vindice
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No. Screaming has to do with what I feel like doing after reading sensationalistic headlines that mean nothing.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:50 | 4005916 jimmytorpedo
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Gee, I always thought screaming was (a) volume oriented (gerund).

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:27 | 4005561 Tinky
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It was a quiet scream. Sort of like a "small BBW".

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:34 | 4005589 Cosmicserpent
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Yeah. Thanks. Like I needed that mental image in my head this morning.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 10:59 | 4005437 synergize
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Silly.  That's right sell all your gold reserves for a fraction of your total debt - all of these countries have way more debt than gold reserves.  This is just trader-talk.

The smart countries will do a Rickards and weaken their currency by buying gold with it.  Either way gold continues to leave the West with total COMEX gold reserves dropping 3% last week.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/1718882-weekly-comex-gold-inventories-total-falls-3-in-one-day

Somebody is accumulating the gold...

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:01 | 4005454 LawsofPhysics
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excellent.  Looking forward to selling the asians my soybeans in exchange for their gold.  Bring it!

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:25 | 4005556 Ignatius
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Sell 'em GMO soybeans for their gold.  Really stick it to 'em.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 14:29 | 4006408 WillyGroper
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That's just sick!  LOL

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 10:58 | 4005438 crakinshot
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Yeah that makes no fucking sense. Someone pullout out all the stops to try to get it down. I've noticed the monkey hammer isn't working anymore as the spot price recovers back to where it was very quickly.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:04 | 4005453 TeamDepends
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Did you see where Rowdy Roddy recently tweeted "They Live is a documentary"?  Interesting times, these.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:13 | 4005498 Ignatius
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"They Live is a documentary"?

They right.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:28 | 4005569 Dudeskis
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That movie is up there with books like Animal Farm and A Brave New World as far as I'm concerned.

Watching it as a kid growing up and now as an adult led to such a deeper appreciation.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:04 | 4005455 Devotional
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for 4 weeks straight now, gold gets hammered on monday morning NYC opening time.

4 bloody damn weeks I tell ya!!!

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:34 | 4005595 Cosmicserpent
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So you've been making money on this trade?

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:52 | 4005926 dark pools of soros
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Nobody trades gold here. They all bought from the sands of time and hold till the end of days.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 10:55 | 4005439 Grande Tetons
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No point surrending now, France. 

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 10:56 | 4005445 FieldingMellish
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They sell debt, not assets.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 10:58 | 4005447 koaj
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Why all this reporting about historical relics? Not sure how this is relevant to the Dow or S&P setting new records

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 10:57 | 4005448 Sudden Debt
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and who was counting on them to sell it anyway?

do they actually own the real stuff?

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:00 | 4005450 Yancey Ward
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In other words, the vaults are empty.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:00 | 4005452 Devotional
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ah maaaan, i was looking forward to some of their melted gold in my hands.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:05 | 4005470 unwashedmass
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guess someone forget to give them the memo about JPM and the effort to sell all gold/silver to China at rock bottom prices. 

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:06 | 4005471 unwashedmass
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guess someone forget to give them the memo about JPM and the effort to sell all gold/silver to China at rock bottom prices. 

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:06 | 4005475 Long-John-Silver
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How can they sell something they don't have? They know anyone buying is going to stand for delivery.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 14:18 | 4006359 Analyse2
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Gold Reserves by Countries
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_reserve

United States 8,133.5
Germany 3,391.3
IMF (International Monetary Fund) 2,814.0
Italy 2,451.8
France 2,435.4
China 1,054.1
Switzerland 1,040.1
Russia 976.9
Japan 765.2
Netherlands 612.5
India 557.7
ECB (European Central Bank) 502.1
Taiwan 423.6
Portugal 382.5
Turkey 375.7
Venezuela 365.8
Saudi Arabia 322.9
United Kingdom 310.3
Lebanon 286.8
Spain 281.6

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:08 | 4005477 Cookie
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I am a stacker like all good ZHers, but sorry,  just screamed higher.....get real, a whole 3 dollars, ZH is too good to ape the mSM headline grabber shite

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:11 | 4005490 akak
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It will be a cringeworthy day indeed when the Tylers, on the days when gold and silver fall (even slightly), start talking about the precious metals having been "blowtorched".

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:52 | 4005939 dark pools of soros
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They were even too lazy to crop the chart which shows it just 'recovered' its little trip to through the dip

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:14 | 4005493 eddiebe
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Fuck vous, banksters

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Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:25 | 4005494 TaperProof
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Yeah it surged after plunging earlier... of course... who dumps contracts that fast that early in the day?  It's not margin calls that early.  ..and the gov shutdown doesnt cause gold to become less attractive, it should have the opposite effect.   ...and the dollar was tanking, and gold along with it?  BULLSHIT.   

Any time you see a big sell off, then an almost immediate bounce back in price, theres a 99% chance someone is manipulating the price downward. Since spreading out their sales would have netted them much much more money. A 15 yr old amateur trader could figure that out.  ..and yes you can account for stops or programmed selling, but often times these violent sales happen while on an uptrend in price intraday.

It might not be the fed, it could be someone buying physical while pushing down the paper price... someone with a lot of money. The banks, a foreign government... etc.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:33 | 4005585 FieldingMellish
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Bart remains frustrated.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:15 | 4005499 Kreditanstalt
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...is now being faded as usual...

 

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:19 | 4005511 Winston Churchill
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Officially denying their sale of Germany's gold.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:20 | 4005518 Hongcha
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I'm betting it will completely retrace by EOD.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:21 | 4005530 Kreditanstalt
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("Hongcha"?) You must be from Taiwan?

Wait for October...it is a delivery month on the COMEX.  Should be...revealing!

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:52 | 4005656 eclectic syncretist
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JPM was called to deliver 40% of their remaining COMEX gold on the first day of October 2013!

http://www.cmegroup.com/delivery_reports/MetalsIssuesAndStopsReport.pdf

179,000 ounces of the 460,000 they have.  Ouch!

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:26 | 4005559 AuEagleNest
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Anyone know why gold spiked $16 yesterday (6 pm NY time) and got immediately hammerd down? Seems to have happened right at the NY Globex open, according to kitco and pmbull charts.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:42 | 4005632 AuEagleNest
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Ok, here's another question, only this one is rhetorical 'cause it's unlikely to be answered. What kind of chickenshit motherfucker down-arrows a question without providing a reply?

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:50 | 4005643 Quinvarius
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Because the US spending/debt issue was in Congress and getting shot down.  Because paper gold promises are printed in infinite amounts to make you think people are not buying the real thing in terror of the colossal stupidity gripping both politics and the banking system. 

Also...Christine Legarde.  How can anything be stable when batshit crazy never looked so unattractive.  It defies logic and destroys all human value systems.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:58 | 4005676 AuEagleNest
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Yep, I'm aware of the cultural reasons. I was sort of looking for more of a technical reason. Morgue algo gone wild or number of contracts dumped ... that sort of thing.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:33 | 4005574 Schmuck Raker
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Soooo... an official denial means they will. Right? Or does that not apply to France?

Perhaps Mr Hollande is waiting for a lower price before selling. No, that would be Britain's ploy.

Oh, I give up.... I'm so confused.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:31 | 4005582 Bobbyrib
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Well, gold is back to where it was pre announcement.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:37 | 4005610 FieldingMellish
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Yep... spike fully faded... profits in bank's pockets... bonuses all around... Bart remains frustrated....

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:42 | 4005603 mt paul
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fun with silver

dissolve a few ounces of silver in nitric acid

dry out the  silver nitrate crystals that form .

 

a pot of molten black glass sits in the furnace

glowing bright orange almost yellow ,2100 degrees

take a blow pipe ,gather up a fist sized  sphere of liquid  glass

when the first gather has cooled gather more glass from furnace

roll this molten black  glass in silver nitrate, under an exhaust hood

then tool this hot glass into it's form ,the last reheat in reduction atmosphere

draws out the silver into vails of blues greens and metalli luster's

on black glass as back ground ,results can get really cosmic 

trying to get some surface detail that look like the northern lights ..

 

a pot of hot glass, fall in the arctic ..life is good

silver , not just for stacking anymore..

 

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:44 | 4005633 SilverIsKing
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I'll get to all that as soon as I'm done taking out the trash.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:52 | 4005654 mt paul
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gave you + 1

i'll be getting to it in about an hr 

sun is just coming up

 

 

long silver

disolve it if ya got it ..

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:21 | 4005767 SilverIsKing
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Why would I want to dissolve it?

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:44 | 4005634 gianakt
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Large London metals trader still caught short on Silver at month end!!!!

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 11:52 | 4005661 falak pema
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the french have no intention of selling their gold because they have every intention of Invading Swiss land for the schweizer  GOLD if the Euro ever tanks; if you believe the plans of the Swiss military high command who has simulated an exercise just for this eventuality called "invasion by Saonnia"...to not ruffles french official feathers. Read this :

Un exercice militaire suisse simule l'attaque d'une France surendettée

Lol !

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:14 | 4005735 Sufiy
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And here are the Buyers:


China, Gold and M&A: Sprott Launches New Offshore Fund with Zijin Mining Group


Eric Sprott not only does the talk, but is doing the work as well - the target size of the fund is 500 mil and it shows that China is not only interested in Gold, but in the Gold and Silver mining companies as well. This is the sign where the money will be coming from in the resource sector. China knows when to sell and when it is time to buy.   Zijin Mining Group is the largest Gold and the second largest Copper producer in China and this move shows that smart money are already shopping for the projects to feed their pipeline.   We hope that Rob McEwen is keeping his phone line open and has translated Los Azules Copper presentation in Chinese as well... http://sufiy.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/china-gold-and-m-sprott-launches-new.html#


Eric Sprott: "China Bought 60% of Gold Production Last Month, I Am Buying Gold And Silver Stocks Now." MUX, TNR.v

"Price of Gold and Silver will be the main driving forces for all survived companies. Eric has very bold prediction for Gold going to $2400 by next year: "The most important thing in the precious metals business - the price of precious metals. They all go up if the price of Gold will go up. The question is which one will go up 200% or 500%. If the Gold will go up to $2400, I can bet that the Gold miners index goes up 200%. What we are trying to do: where is the one which will go up 1000%."


Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:14 | 4005736 Sufiy
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And here are the Buyers:


China, Gold and M&A: Sprott Launches New Offshore Fund with Zijin Mining Group


Eric Sprott not only does the talk, but is doing the work as well - the target size of the fund is 500 mil and it shows that China is not only interested in Gold, but in the Gold and Silver mining companies as well. This is the sign where the money will be coming from in the resource sector. China knows when to sell and when it is time to buy.   Zijin Mining Group is the largest Gold and the second largest Copper producer in China and this move shows that smart money are already shopping for the projects to feed their pipeline.   We hope that Rob McEwen is keeping his phone line open and has translated Los Azules Copper presentation in Chinese as well... http://sufiy.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/china-gold-and-m-sprott-launches-new.html#


Eric Sprott: "China Bought 60% of Gold Production Last Month, I Am Buying Gold And Silver Stocks Now." MUX, TNR.v

"Price of Gold and Silver will be the main driving forces for all survived companies. Eric has very bold prediction for Gold going to $2400 by next year: "The most important thing in the precious metals business - the price of precious metals. They all go up if the price of Gold will go up. The question is which one will go up 200% or 500%. If the Gold will go up to $2400, I can bet that the Gold miners index goes up 200%. What we are trying to do: where is the one which will go up 1000%."


Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:19 | 4005754 Petrus Romanus
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Holy Shit! Silver is on fire, up 1 cent, and gold is surging lower by 8.20. What does this tell you about .gov shutdown? No consequence, all horseshit! Nothing to see here, nothing changes, business as usual, crash 401's, take profit, fuck everyone else!

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:31 | 4005823 gimli
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I missed that spike while taking a piss

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:41 | 4005856 Conax
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+1

The lid is firmly in place.  When will it get away from them?

Buddha knows but he ain't talking.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:44 | 4005891 gimli
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The lid was open while I tinkled, this market is one big toilet bowl guarded by the plunge protection team.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 12:46 | 4005898 Conax
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plunge protection team.

Ar ar ar!

+ another one..

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 13:03 | 4005988 Conax
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Hold it--

Wait..

There it is, we're catchin a bid again!

wooHoo, up a dime!

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 13:20 | 4006091 Conax
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Annnnd, it's gone.

trala la twiddlee dee.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 13:58 | 4006270 RealityCheque
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Sell it to me frenchy. After all its only a "barbarous relic"!

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:53 | 4007011 auric1234
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As if they had any. Poor banksters, nobody trusts them anymore.

Paper certificates don't count. IF YOU DON'T HOLD IT, YOU DON'T OWN IT

 

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