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With Just Hours To Go, Obama Suddenly In A Negotiating Mood
Last week Obama was unwilling to negotiate on the two key issues in the current government pre-shutdown debacle: Obamacare and the debt ceiling. Things seem to have changed quite quickly, now that the government shutdown is just 11 hours away. From Reuters:
- OBAMA SAYS EVERYONE MUST SIT DOWN AND NEGOTIATE IN GOOD FAITH, CAN'T HAVE TALKS UNDER RISK OF POTENTIAL U.S. DEBT DEFAULT
- OBAMA SAYS HE IS NOT RESIGNED TO A GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN TAKING PLACE
- OBAMA SAYS U.S. DOLLAR IS RESERVE CURRENCY OF THE WORLD, "WE DON'T MESS WITH THAT
- OBAMA SAYS EXPECTS TO SPEAK TO CONGRESSIONAL LEADERS MONDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY
In other words, Obama blinked (for the n-th time in what has not been a good year for presidential leverage). And to think it took less than a 1% drop in the S&P (and a rather stubborn Republican party) to get "diplomacy" going...
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The president that never submitted a budget speaks
Deal by 12:59.5999999pm tonight. Just like all the other times.
Let's hope the result looks like the Sequestor. Any non-increase in government spending should be seen as good.
Man of fiction and nonprinciple. A hooker.
With a real hooker you have at least a chance of a Happy Ending. No chance this parasite's terms end in anything other than disaster...
""ABlameA SAYS U.S. DOLLAR IS RESERVE CURRENCY OF THE WORLD, "WE DON'T MESS WITH THAT""
Sure... And WE Make SURE GOLD Is Manipulated DOWN By All Of OUR Freindly Paid Proxies...
POTUS
Putz of the United States
POSOTUS!
And...if this is what constitutes a negotiating mood...well, that must be statist code-speak for "fucking over"!
We don't want to have the rest of the world cut up America's AMEX Black Card! PRINT MOAR!!!!
So, Zero has set the meme that if the government "shuts down" this would be a "default". Oh, God! What a blithering idiot.
I've never seen someone box themselves in more than Obama, except for maybe Pandora...
Read that as: Action against syria to appease house of saud still on and soon bitchez!
Obama Ok Republicans, lets negotiate
10 for me, 1 for you --- 10 for me, 1 for you ---
unless she squeezes your balls to make it go faster...
That's why Groupon and pros don't mix.
Whisper rumor that SEAL Team 6 has been ordered on a top secret mission to locate Obama's balls, should they exist.
obama is a clueless, impotent fuck.
I've noticed his hair on his head looks like pubic hair. Resting on top of a dickhead
Seal Team 6??? I really doubt they would help him to anything but a .50 cal perforation.
Obama called them off multiple times to allow bin Laden to escape
When team 6 did get bin Laden Obama took the credit for it
Obama outed the team in the press.
Obama had the majority of the team murdered in Afghanistan in a helicopter shootdown by advertising their movements.
Did Obama submit his real Keynan birth certificate yet, in order to prove once and for all that he was never a "Natural US Citizen"?
I still think his pappy is Frank Marshall Davis, personally. Seeing as the man is a commie, lived in Honolulu at the time of Obama's conception, and had strong connections in Chicago... Makes more sense than the Kenya crap, IMO.
Barry was hatched at Langley.
+100
Classic Al See Eye Ahh-da "cutout." No records, no past, needs a teleprompter, created and totally protected by the media, burned through sealed records to win elections, stole his other elections. Total police state shit.
I think you mean "Keynesian" birth Certificate
I guess his NWO masters are'nt quite ready to crash the dollar yet.
Why are you being so rude to hookers?
Maybe because this story is lurking out there?
http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2013/09/30/dnc-debt-crisis/?iid=HP_LN
The Repubs are not actually going for a "defund". The proposed continuing resolution only postpones the "individual mandate" for one year. Postponing the mandate means people are not forced to buy health insurance or pay HC fine, for one more year.
Right. A punt. A punt right into an election year...and nothing quite says failure for Pubbies like an election year!
Since 2010 the Repubs are very afraid of elections. They are having to answer to a pissed off base that's organized and shows up to vote. Many are voted out right in the primaries.
IIRC, most of the RedTeam was on board with RomneyCare.
That's right, and if you want Obamacare's birth certificate, the concept was hatched at the Heritage Foundation, birthed as Romneycare, and adopted by Obummer.
Any non-increase in government spending should be seen as good.
One more thing that has not been widely reported is that the continuing resolution, as it now exists, violates the Budget Control Act–the compromise solution to the last debt ceiling standoff that was enacted in August 2011. The Budget Control Act purported to dictate discretionary spending levels over the next several years. The total mandated by the BCA for FY 2014, which is what we are now talking about, is $967 billion. That was the figure in Paul Ryan’s House budget, consistent with existing law. But in the Senate, the Democrats ignored the BCA and had a spending proposal for over $1 trillion for FY 2014. When the House adopted its continuing resolution that defunded Obamacare, it used a compromise discretionary spending number of $986 billion (prorated to cover two months). The Senate has now accepted that $986 billion figure, but it still exceeds the BCA. So earlier today, Jeff Sessions called a point of order, noting that the continuing resolution that the Senate was about to vote on was “illegal” under the BCA. That led to a roll call vote; by 68-30, the Senate voted to ignore its prior legislation, the BCA, and spend more money.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2013/09/todays-senate-votes-and-what-lies-ahead.php
E X A C T L Y.
They are busting the Sequester. We'll be on our way to deficits headed towards TWO TRILLION DOLLARS in no time. The House should be stopping this NOW, not reaching a compromise number that ALSO busts the Sequester.
& this time, the algo's in Chicago will pre-program in a 7 ms delay before they start executing trades on the information that they get provided in advance regarding the deal, so Nanex doesn't catch them again
Dow up 200 points tomorrow.
If they throw together some last minute deal....it could be similiar to what we saw with the NO TAPER. Dow rally and subsequent slump.
Suckers are not as easy to find these days.
Meanwhile in China:
Shanghai Gold Exchange Physical Delivery Equals Chinese Demand
http://koosjansen.blogspot.nl/2013/09/sge-physical-delivery-equals-chine...
what the world needs now is a black pee wee herman to set the world straight !!!
GO pee wee !
Actually, he submitted a number. They went down in flames to the sound of derision by all sides, but he did submite some. Reid never brought any passed by the House to the floor, that is where the blame lies.
"The president that never submitted a budget speaks."
The president that never got a SINGLE vote for any budget he submitted reads off a teleprompter.
FIFY
Obama seems to be agreeing with a lot of folks these day's. The Russians, Iranians, Congress and so forth. He's even using terms like "You don't mess wit dat".
I think he's smoking leaf again. There is no other conclusion. He's toking and smoking his black ass big time in that white ass house. That is why the Saudi's and Israeli's are so upset. They would much rather have a former coke nose, ex alcoholic, god freak in that office, something they can at least identify with.
He's smoking leaf again. The is no other conclusion.
Cunt.
he's a K Street Kunt
just so we're clear on our definitions.....cunts are useful
RELEASE THE pee wee !!!
<---shouldn't you be in "negotiations/bukkake theatre"
just doesn't sound the same
OBAMA SAYS U.S. DOLLAR IS RESERVE CURRENCY OF THE WORLD, "WE DON'T MESS WITH THAT
what Nixon did in 1971 can never be un-messed!
Stockman's Chapter 7 on Nixon.........oi vay
WE DON'T MESS WITH THAT
Thanks for dumming it down for us.
He's speaking to his people.
Dumb motherfuckers who's financial accumen comes from watching sokmeone win Dancing With the Stars or Survivor.
Obama is under strict orders to not mess with the interest payments to his rentier overlords.
Word-smithing to obfuscate or sanitize words like Aristocrats or Feudalism does not change their underlying objectives or practices -- any more than calling a Sodomite homosexual a 'gay'.
A fudge-packer/Sodomite is still a fudge-packer/Sodomite, and a well-positioned (economic/Rentier) leech is still a well-positioned leech.
People should say what they mean, and mean what they say.
Serious question for the group:
Although a default on treasury coupon payments is far away, if it did happen... Would yields spike because of the default or would they collapse as everyone runs to the safety of US treasuries.
I honestly wonder.
@ForWhomTheTollBuilds
Decide which is the the logical answer and then take the opposite. Then, and only then, will you have your answer.
Not sure why I got downvoted for a question, because I wasn't kidding. I can see a scenario where they miss a coupon payment, MSNBC declares that the experts have a plan and laments that people ignorant enough to throw the word "default" around have the potential to impact market psychology.
So you have market turmoil and a treasury market that is functional by decree. If people think I'm crazy they should remember Cyprus, MF Global, Sentinal, etc etc etc. Nothing seems to break the illusion.
HINT: Treasury yields are no longer controlled by market forces. Whatever the Politburo decides is what will happen.
Definatly looks like thats the end game.
Triple AAA paper collateral that by definition can never lose value, rehypoticated endlessly in the support of the biggest bubble of all time which ends with the simultaneous collapse of everything only when the man in the street finally cannot get bread.
Churchill once said, "You can always count on the Americans to do the right thing, after they've tried everything else."
I don't think anything would happen because it's all fake fraud anyways and they are just actors giving the public another circus show.
Stop wondering. Our aircraft carriers are the largest most effective tool that the FED has at their disposal. If a country were to dare threaten the sale of their debt...watch what happens.
So true, until some smart wag sinks one of those carriers.
...backed by the good faith hegemony and credit bombs of the US government MIC...
why doesn't the strike through feature stay when I post? Sorry, I don't know HTML.
Yes, everyone would flock to the "safety" of Treasuries that just went into default.
I think a lot of people are trying to front-run that trade right now. You should too.
Thanks, I'll stick to barbarous relics and real estate.
Their plan is to Take your pension and 401k funds and replace it with Gov.Debt.
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/09/30/they-are-officially-eyeing-up-p...
Moar treasuries would be printed to pay coupon - no default. Just like Zimbabwe.
He continues to make a liar out of himself (no negotiations)
@Bobbyrib
Is it lying when you don't mean a word you say in the first place?
If it is to intentionally mislead people, IMHO it is.
LMAO. Then why don't you stop QE and stop raising the debt ceiling?
Because then the us economy would collapse and nobody would want that $ any mo.
YIKES :o)
"....and you don't mess around with Jim!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4qUXcXuMSE
I said it a couple daze ago..."Let's do the experiment and see what happens...."
WE DON'T MESS WITH THAT
LOL, idiocracy
YOU'RE FIRED, ALL OF YOU!!!! SHUT IT DOWN.
Too late it's all ready messed, ring fenced, eroded, quarantined, bypassed and currently circling the toilet.
END THE FED, restore the constitution, arrest the traitors and return to debt free treasury money.
Politicians: Ugly people who were not attractive enough to succeed in the film industry and not bright enough to succeed in the private sector. Hang them all.
He didn't bllink. He said he would have a discussion only if there were no preconditions. That means agree to all his terms first and then try to gt him to budge. That's not going to happen. He hasn't moved an inch.
Yeah I dont see a blink either. He is making a (unusually wise) negotiating move to create an impression that he was totally open to anything before those maniac republicans just dashed all our hopes out of spite etc etc etc.
American political bullshit is the reserve political bullshit of the World!
Don't Mess With Dat!!!
This must be where he goes into the meeting and beats people over the head with his teleprompter. His negotiation skills are unmatched by that of a free thinking society.
I look at the president and then at the teleprompter and I sometimes wonder, who is the dummy and who is the ventriloquist?
The CIA really dumped a piece of puppet manure on us this time.
When will this obvious domestic enemy/ traiter be impeached?
It"s funny how all this crap woud not be happening under a gold standard.
The reserve currency is now in reverse and inevitably America must rethink and reinvent itself otherwise the internal demise will eventually prove the point that the USA is its own worse enemy.
all the muslim in the WH needed is an opposition party with BALLS, then ....
"he will negotiate"
as usual... fuck him, damned narci-fascist-despot
Bullshit. You re-appointed Bernanke and want to appoint Yellen. You don't want to really cut the budget. You're bankrupting more and more people with the student loan scam and the health care cartel scam. You're more than ``messing with that``.
Liberals think their special. Obama would never consider non-USA citizens would want to sell USA dollars. Americans are the good guyd...HA HA!!!!!! This thought is the foundation of all American liberal politicians and why all ZHers despise their stupidity!
to late no deal
They should get the Breaking Bad writers in to make this show more exciting. As it is, this is bad soap opera material, not even kind of believable and very predictable.
LTER, TOTUS can't stick with a script fore more than 5 minutes before requiring changes. That's a good idea but the writers would probably suicide themselves in short order.
President Obama would be perfect to play Todd.
OBAMA SAYS U.S. DOLLAR IS RESERVE CURRENCY OF THE WORLD, "WE DON'T MESS WITH THAT"
Ever think in your wildest hangover or drugged out stupor, you'd see
The POTUS speak gangsta?
dats raysis
but not wrong
How so? Hes of da human race, right?
So all of a sudden we have races within races? Like relay races?...yeah..thats it..
Rays
Rangers
You pick 'em.
"OBAMA SAYS U.S. DOLLAR IS RESERVE CURRENCY OF THE WORLD, "WE DON'T MESS WITH THAT""
obama would do well as a comic ... perhaps when he is done helping fuck up the country he can get a role at SNL.
Nothing the sumbitch says or does makes me laugh. Makes me potentially homicidally inclined, but nothing humorous.
Obamas FED: Messin with Bess'n Worlds' Currency Fo Over 100 Years!
Obama promises free soda from the vending machines for all of congress and that they all get new ponies - and debt ceiling resolved.
And on this news the dollar will "strengthen" thanks to the US's ability to continue debasing it's currency while PM's will be sold off on the "relief" of it all.
I guess this means the market will go parabolic because now everything is fixed...except for those things that are still broken...like the economy.
OBAMA IS SCREAMING LIKE A BROTHER WHO'S ABOUT TO LOSE HIS WELLFARE CHEQUES!!!
YOU BETTER START A SHOESHINE BIZZ BRO OR YOUR ASS AIN'T GONE FEED THAT MICHEL MOUTH NO LONGER!!!
Hours to go before closing down on a window dressing, end of quarter, month, etc...
..funny how they dont mention discussing this shit after 4pm....
President Prevaricator!
In community organizer lingo- 'Don't mess wit our dolla dolla bill ya'll! I'm tryin'a pimp my ride and get my SWERVE on up in here!'
A partial government shutdown is likely, of course. But the key ingredient in what happens is the role of the media.
When Newt Gingrich shut down the government to punish Clinton, the media punished Gingrich over and over until the shut down became a political loss for the Republicans. Since the primary actors, the President and the Congress, are politicians, the media’s approach to today’s announcement by Obama is critical.
If the media will be honest and suggest that Obama is now going to negotiate delaying Obamacare, then the Republicans are winning this battle. If not, it is up to the Internet to take on the media the same as it took on Harry Reid for scheduling the first business for the Senate to begin at 2 P.M. today, just hours before a midnight partial shutdown.
This poor public relations move by Harry no doubt prompted the White House to avoid appearing uncooperative.
I think that calling it a debt ceiling is a mistake which belittles the gravity of the situation.
It should be known as the depth of the big black hole.
My wife likes to have reserve toilet paper in the pantry.
Pretty soon she will be carrying her reserve toiet paper in her purse the way these clowns are carrying on.
These guys are the equivalent of a suicide bomber threatening to blow hinself up unless he is given more explosives.
OBAMA SAYS EXPECTS TO SPEAK TO CONGRESSIONAL LEADERS MONDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY
Does he need a teleprompter for that, or just talking points?
Obama -- The Telepromter Tyrant!
So, are the criminal cabalists in jail? Peace reigns supreme around the globe? Europe and rest of global financial crisis healed?
Corzine, Blankfein, Dimon, etc swinging from a vintage lamp post? ya know for effect?
Just wonderin...
Since the smoke and mirrors seems to be in perpetual motion..
Odicktator will never give in. He doesn't have to with the the Omedia and Oboehner backing him up.
Once they determine who are not essential government employees during the shutdown, lay them off permanently. Eliminate all Obamacare exemptions granted illegally by Odicktator to certain Obusinesses, certain Ounions, certain Oreligions and Ocongress.
Obama is an amateur..
he should have sent Nancy.. she hasn't blinked in twenty years...
Hitler was still negotiating on May 4, 1945 from his bunker with Russian tanks rolling up to Brandeburg Gate in Berlin.
Go Barry Go!!!!! We all believe your threats. LMAO!!!
I want to see a quick compilation of Obama on Obama-care. From making demands, to negotiation, to threatening dire consequences, to going full ape-shit -jumping around the oval office, naked, and throwing his feces at the camera crew.
He could saddle up ol' Reggie, ride him to the podium both of 'em buck nekkid say nothing and the media would be all - "that's leadership"- "conviction defined" and "courage under fire" quotes for a week- make that a month..
Now it's time for the media to go full court with the canned man on the street interviews of all those lobotomized mokies who are "opposed to any shutdown"..
.."men go mad in herds but come to their senses one by one".. Charles McKay.
Obumblepuke won't negotiate and he won't cave. I do not think there is a real fight or issue. It looks to simply be show and the Obomber needs to save the crew for the elections because the people don't want their reps to fund Obumblepuke-care or the government. The people want to see all of the wars, the spying, the theft, the fraud, the lies, the replacement of justice and service with fetishes and abuse... just go away.
So, what process do Obumblepuke and his cronies establish to make it tolerable for the time being until the big plan is executed? That is what we are looking at with this latest move.
I see nothing in your post which indicates that Obama "blinked." C'mon Tyler!