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President Obama To Explain Whose Fault Is It Anyway - Live Webcast

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We've heard from Boehner, Reid has chipped in, and even Schumer had a cameo but now the big man steps up to point fingers, clarify where the blame should lie, and demand his way or the highway. We are sure soon after we will get the same speech from Boehner wit ha word replace "Republicans" for "Democrats" but the farce continues...

 

 

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Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:40 | 4006945 Ying-Yang
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"You know I can use drones!"

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:41 | 4006955 The Juggernaut
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It's the People's fault for not revolting and ending the Fed Reserve.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:41 | 4006962 NotApplicable
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I blame your mom.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:45 | 4006980 robertocarlos
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You're.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:50 | 4006991 hedgeless_horseman
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    "The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies."

    

    "Over the past 5 years, our federal debt has increased by $3.5 trillion to $8.6 trillion.That is “trillion” with a “T.” That is money that we have borrowed from the Social Security trust fund, borrowed from China and Japan, borrowed from American taxpayers. And over the next 5 years, between now and 2011, the President’s budget will increase the debt by almost another $3.5 trillion."

    

    "Numbers that large are sometimes hard to understand. Some people may wonder why they matter. Here is why: This year, the Federal Government will spend $220 billion on interest. That is more money to pay interest on our national debt than we’ll spend on Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program. That is more money to pay interest on our debt this year than we will spend on education, homeland security, transportation, and veterans benefits combined. It is more money in one year than we are likely to spend to rebuild the devastated gulf coast in a way that honors the best of America."

    

    "And the cost of our debt is one of the fastest growing expenses in the Federal budget. This rising debt is a hidden domestic enemy, robbing our cities and States of critical investments in infrastructure like bridges, ports, and levees; robbing our families and our children of critical investments in education and health care reform; robbing our seniors of the retirement and health security they have counted on."

    

    "Every dollar we pay in interest is a dollar that is not going to investment in America’s priorities."

 

-Barack Hussein Obama

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:53 | 4007004 TruthInSunshine
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HH, please add the following important dates when the esteemed, articulate & intelligent Senator Obama made that intelligent speech on the Senate Floor:

Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)

March 16, 2006

Official National Debt at that time: 9 trillion USD

Official National Debt NOW: 18 trillion USD

FORWARD!!!

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:55 | 4007019 Skateboarder
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A-huffin-a-puffin-a-inflatin-away.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:15 | 4007129 HoofHearted
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If I'm Boehner, I start throwing all kinds of good shit in the next House bill. We put in stuff like "Obamacare is completely repealed. Harry Reid is a motherfucking son of a bitch. Obama is a dickhead." I'd have fun with the next bill I send to Harry Reid and the blabbermouth in chief. 

"Not going to refight the election of 2012?" Don't you realize the Rs won a majority of seats in the House. You are the bastard who is fighting that shit...

And Boehner sucks too. Don't get me wrong. 

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:21 | 4007158 redpill
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"What Difference Does it Make?!?!"

-HillClit

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:36 | 4007222 DoChenRollingBearing
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"It's all George Bush's fault!"

LOLOLOL......

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 18:42 | 4007363 Pure Evil
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Bring in the Choomwagon, all aboard, choom, choom, choom, choom, choom..........

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:23 | 4007164 Meat Hammer
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Hahaha!  That's perfect.

-House Speaker Boehner gets to punch Senate Majority Leader Reid in the nuts (oh, wait) 3 times a day.

-House Speaker Boehner will be allowed to flick boogers at Congresswoman Pelosi when she has her mouth open.

etc

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:29 | 4007192 overmedicatedun...
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on ZH the what if the president gives a speech and no one listens ?(mute is my friend)..is operational, seems obuma has fooled all the black americans into thinking he realllly is black..that beats the i am a citizen scam he pulled on the rest of us. he saw too many re runs of "The Sting".

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:31 | 4007201 Keyser
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I passed the mute stage some time ago. I can no longer even see this numpty on the tube without losing my shit. 

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:37 | 4007225 Pegasus Muse
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Neil Cavuto Destroys Obama Over Blatant ObamaCare Lies  (3 min)

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:38 | 4007234 CrashisOptimistic
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Just sit back and watch.  This CR extending a lousy 6 weeks WILL BUST THE SEQUESTER.

That's that is going on.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 20:05 | 4007663 lotsoffun
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try key and peele.

 

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 20:04 | 4007658 lotsoffun
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you have to admit - the boy (oops, that's raciss, didn't mean it that way, just a comment on his intellect and breeding.  ((oops, that's raciss))) did pretty good for himself, that is, if anybody here really thinks they want to be POTUS.  you want the job?  not easy right now, find anybody in their right mind wants that job.  and if he avoids any accidents, he'll have a pretty cushy life for a while.  personally, i think it shows just how stupid and arrogant he was to take the job.  hecould still be in chicago milking brides and signing up dead voters and living a pretty good life.  still afford sending the wife and kids to paris.

oh well.  i like simple.  i just hope i'm around to see the payback.  i don't need much, but i don't like to be taken and i would like to see that.

 

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 21:44 | 4007987 Wahooo
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Fooled all the black Americans, eh? If someone is dumb enough to believe you, have you really fooled them? They are dumb enough, so NO, he did not fool them.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 19:15 | 4007469 ncdirtdigger
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I'll reauchambeau you for it.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:56 | 4007022 hedgeless_horseman
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Who is at fault?  Obama was against raising the debt ceiling at $9T before he was for it at 18T.  I know this is the funding bill, but each funding bill creates the deficit which creates the debt.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:57 | 4007030 McMolotov
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Maff is hard.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:55 | 4007277 Yes We Can. But...
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So is truuf.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 18:44 | 4007368 Pure Evil
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Then reality must truly suck!

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 19:17 | 4007477 ncdirtdigger
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Dat bees a miff.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:15 | 4007133 Chupacabra-322
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Here's some for the current as well as the predecessor Criminal regimes

-False Flag of 911
-Bengazi
-Arming, funding & training the same terror organizations they, The Criminal Federal Gov claim to protect us from via The State Dept/CIA
-Fast & Furious
-CIA drug running money laundering through the tax payer bailed out TBTFBanksters.
-NDAA
-Torture Bush Obama plus regimes
-Rendition
-MF Global
-LIBOR
-iRS, DOJ political persecution

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:35 | 4007221 Landrew
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I know it's a big number but actually it's 16.58 Trillion and counting.     http://usdebtclock.org/

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 18:57 | 4007407 AuAgPt
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Those numbrs are depessing...

Has anyone taken a look at the gold supply/demand tab on that site? Says global demand for gold is 155,983,506. If you then look at Gold/Precious Metal Reserves it shows the global production for gold. As of today, the end of Q3, we see that only 71,394,590 (and counting) oz have been produced this year. I dont see the 4th Quarter having over 100% the production of the previous 3 quarters.... Where are the ounces coming from? Reserves?

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 18:03 | 4007289 stormsailor
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the finger pointer in chief needs to point the finger at himself,

 

mr leadership failure, the buck stops on his arrogant face

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 21:50 | 4008005 Wahooo
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More likely he will put one finger up his ass and flubber his lips with the other.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:51 | 4007009 McMolotov
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"But I'm the prezzy now, bitchez, so forget I said all that shit. Ima do whatever the fuck I want."

—Barack Hussein Obama, today

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:57 | 4007020 TruthInSunshine
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Is nerObama golfing again?

He was supposed to speak at 4:45

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:37 | 4007227 Keyser
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Don't you play Franklin on GTA 5? 

 

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:28 | 4007183 Jethro
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Thanks HH. This can't be quoted enough these days.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:01 | 4007065 Meatballs
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lmao.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:17 | 4007104 TruthInSunshine
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Word cloud.

"Veterans"
"Women"
"Children"
"Troops"
"Social Security checks"
"Medicare"
"Neighbors"
"Real People"
"Farmers"
"PTSD"
"Jobs"
"Housing Market"
"American People"
"Interfering With Women & Contraception"
"Law"
"Young People"
"Cheaper Prescription Drugs"
"HealthCare.gov"

No mention of deficit, debt, entitlement growth, borrow, balanced budget, drone, MIC, JP Morgan, "The Honorable" Jon S. Corzine, Goldman Sachs, MOAR!

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:19 | 4007140 Chupacabra-322
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Impeachment is a great start, unfortunately Criminal Congress, The CRIMINAL DOJ, Supreme Court, DoD/ MIC & agencies are Complicent in the Crimes Against Humanity & Crimes/ High Treason against The American People.

Anything short of Mass arrests of the perpetrators/high level officials is moot.

Impeachment, Arrest, Tri, Convict, Execute. All the Criminals Crimes are out in thee open now for all the world to see.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:37 | 4007228 Keyser
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So what does a citizenry do when their entire government is corrupt? I would say, but the NSA already has a file going on me. 

 

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 18:14 | 4007291 Chupacabra-322
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You're using the Wrong C word. It's beyond Corrupt. It's Criminal, out in the open, in your face now for all the world to see. Refer to it as such.

Solution is peaceful non compliance & participation. No more funding our own Bandage & Enslavement. Pack a gun & Pay no tax.

Stop shopping at the big stores, buy local organic, take your money out of the banks, stocks, own land, read, stay fit, avoid GMO's.

They either want you dead or Collectivized.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 19:21 | 4007489 floyd084
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Yer.

ftfy

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:06 | 4007091 RacerX
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They should rename it to "Yo Momma care"

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:09 | 4007103 DeadFred
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She didn't teach how to follow a budget (or even what one was). We shouldn't be talking about contiuing resolutions, we should have a BUDGET in place. Hopefully a balanced budget but I won't be picky.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:43 | 4006966 Xibalba
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Exactly.  It's your fault dumb, fat, and stupid America!  

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:39 | 4007232 Keyser
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And what bastion of economic success do you live in. Spain? 

 

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:42 | 4006972 robertocarlos
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'You'll never see it coming." I hope those words become ironic.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:10 | 4007102 Sudden Debt
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Obama defied his Arabian overlords by not being able to do his programmed job to attack Syria.

this debt ceiling debacle is his first warning. if he won't comply within the next 5 months and the Syrian attack window closes... he won't have seen it comming for sure.

There's always a bigger play and the only moments common people like you and me will see a glymps of it is when ego's are bruized and ego's flex their muscles.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:19 | 4007149 Seize Mars
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Arabian overlords? Yeah right. Good one.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:31 | 4007204 1000 splendid suns
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Truth, SD. The fakey Syria gassing was supposed to coincide with the taper. Since Syria was such a botched job, Ben Shalon had to pull back on the taper tantrum.

Plan B is just a slow steady decay of the US economy, while rampant inflation hits other countries like India, and banking holidays in Panama, etc.

Karen Hudes for prez.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:43 | 4006976 takeaction
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I am really hoping for some big drama....but my gut feeling as always is...we will have a "Little" shut down to scare the sheep, then everyone caves as usual.  It doesn't matter who caves...you and I are always getting screwed in the ass.  If you work..you are fucked...If you leach off of the system...you are sure as hell not reading us here on ZH.  I wish I could address all of the leach fuckers and say...Fuck Off and get a job welfare check cashing fucks.  Am I pissed...yes.  And to the NSA and Steve Liesman reading this....Fuck you too.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:13 | 4007117 dogmete
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If you leach off of the system...you are sure as hell not reading us here on ZH.

 

Unless you're leaching off the system not by choice but because the government put you out of business by RIGGING the game against you.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:28 | 4007187 takeaction
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Sir...there are always exceptions to the rule....and those exceptions tend to prove the rule true. The higher percentage of leaches on the system could work, but our government tends to take away that incentive....am I correct?  Yes...some people need help...but I do feel that most could figure it out.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:19 | 4007145 GOLDTRADERRR
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@takeaction I wonder what you'll be saying when the economy collapses and you don't have any food or shelter.

Life has funny ways of getting us to see the difficulties others are experiencing, often due to circumstances beyond their control.

You apparently think you are immune to hitting the bottom.

Time will show you differently.

http://goldtradercommentsaugust2010.blogspot.com/

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:34 | 4007210 takeaction
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What will I be saying.....I will be saying..."Good Luck to those of you who have not prepred...."  I realize that I am not immune....but...I am one of those that can hit bottom and rise to the top again and again if need be.  

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:32 | 4007196 ebworthen
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"If you leach off of the system...you are sure as hell not reading us here on ZH."

Or if you lost your job, can't find a new one, and it dawns on you that if you start working you'll just have the blood sucked out of you and your spirit broken all over again because you will be working to perpetuate the insanity rather than bleeding the beast to kill it.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:39 | 4007237 Landrew
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I ASSUME you are talking about the 1% richest in America when you are talking about leaches! They steal more from us than the bottom 80%!

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 18:07 | 4007295 bentaxle
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If you take the combined wealth of the, roughly, 50 or so residents of 740 Park Ave, NY and compare theirs with the combined wealth of the nearly 50 million Americans who are either unemployed or on EBT cards. Who would have the greater wealth? I suspect the former. That's not 1%. It's 0.000001%

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 18:00 | 4007251 smartstrike
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You are a 'cliche' You sound like a white cracker who's been living off everyone else work. Get lost parasite, you don't know the meaning of a leechfuck. Look in the the mirror.

It's pay back time, pay back for everything you stole, and I MEAN STOLE, because parasites like you live off other peoples sweat.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:44 | 4006982 slaughterer
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Drinking game: a shot of Jack every time our leader says the word "mess" in any grammatical form (verb, noun, adverb or adjective).

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:56 | 4007032 Meat Hammer
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And a bong hit for every time he says "normal folks". 

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:01 | 4007062 1100-TACTICAL-12
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take a shot every tine he says "ah" youll be drunk in 3 min.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:07 | 4007092 Meat Hammer
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Or dead

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:05 | 4007086 Skateboarder
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You would be in outer space!

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 19:05 | 4007437 awakeRewe
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I absolutely fucking hate being referred to as "FOLKS" by that disgusting peice of shit!

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:57 | 4007043 overmedicatedun...
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obuma's first words: "don't mess wid da nigger,, I'll get midevil on yur ass, bitchez"

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:19 | 4007148 FuzzyDunlop21
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I cant stand listening to him, so Im just going to assume he said it a gratuitous amount of times and chug the bottle

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:59 | 4006998 Millivanilli
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FUCK YOU OBAMA.

"When there is a bill that ends up on my desk as president, you will have five days to look online and find out what's in it before I sign it."

 -- Manchester, N.H. B. OBAMA JUNE 22, 2007

ARREST A GOD DAMN BANKSTER!

 

Look at these useless sack of shits in the press corp.  RIP Journalistic integrity.

 

 

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:59 | 4007055 SheepDog-One
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Where's Chalky?

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:03 | 4007073 OldPhart
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I taking a collection to buy the Obama's theater tickets...anyone want to chip in?

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:28 | 4007186 azzhatter
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Chalky, fresh off the back nine, steps up to the mic to tell us all how much he cares

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:40 | 4006947 zorba THE GREEK
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Obama has never said "my bad" What a loser.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 18:57 | 4007415 DosZap
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LOL!!, who will believe anymore?, his approval ratings are lower than dirt.And the DNC is broke, 18 million in the hole,while the GOP has a 11 million surplus.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:39 | 4006950 FuzzyDunlop21
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Bush's fault

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:50 | 4007002 DOT
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Can't say it often enuf. I tried blaming Nixon last week. The poor child I was talking to had no idea who I was talking about.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:58 | 4007048 Meat Hammer
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When you put it like that it really illustrates the absurdity of blaming the previous president.  I'm going to start arbitrarily blaming William McKinley.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:15 | 4007131 dogmete
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It's the peeps fault anywho...

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:44 | 4007253 Keyser
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And just how would you propose the "peeps" stop this type of shit? Really. 

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:39 | 4006951 Everyman
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We should all STOP PAYING our taxes, until we get some non corrupt grownups in BOTH of these freakshow political parties.  This "governing freakshow" is just sickening in it's stupidity, ONLY TO BE SURPASSED by the propaganda of the MSM, repeating lies and misrepresentations.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:43 | 4006967 slotmouth
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You stop paying first and I will wait and see what happens.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:47 | 4006988 Skateboarder
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And I'll bring a couple of years' stock of popcorn to go with it.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:49 | 4006995 Everyman
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We ALL have to do it, that is why it is called "United States".  Remember the bit "We shall all hang together, or hang separately."  Your attitude is really that of a "modern Amerikkan".  Nice to see your contribution to that bygone virtue "LIBERTY". It would need to be a national movement, or protest. 

Easy,  Just set your deduction as high as possible, then don't pay.  Before that, we need a lot of attorney's to represent us for class action against an out of control Government.

Ideas start something, a post like YOURS is a chickenshit approach.  You deserve neither liberty or security mister.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:57 | 4007031 NOTaREALmerican
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Re;  We ALL have to do it, that is why it is called "United States". 

You first. 

Those of us in the top 20% managing all the government & corporate scams being run on the dumbasses are doing quite well with things as they are now.

As long as the bottom 80% keep blaming the wrong people for who is doing the screwing, the top 20% are safe.   

"Shut it down"!   What a joke.   Like those living off of Big-Ag, Big-MIC, Big-Road, Big-Water, Big-Airport, Big-Energy, Big-Ed, Big-House, Big-Fin, Big-AntiDrug, & Big-PoliceState care if government workers and OldFarts don't get paid.   We'll get paid regardless of whether the dumbasses get paid.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:23 | 4007161 Herd Redirectio...
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You are selling an illusion.  You are trying to convince those in the top 20% they ARE THE TOP 20%.  An Us vs Them sort of proposition.  The only part you are missing, is the part where the Empire continually feeds on itself, self-cannibalizes, if you will, because it can't grow outwards any more (military bases in every country, coca-cola in every country, multinationals are now global, etc).  So what was previously the CORE becomes a part of the FRINGE.

Basically, you are in the club, until one day you realize, you're not in THE CLUB.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:38 | 4007231 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  Basically, you are in the club, until one day you realize, you're not in THE CLUB

Yup,  totally agree.    But, the Big-Gov and Big-Corp scams need a management class to keep them running.     Not sure what minimum percentage of the population is needed tho.   

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 18:25 | 4007331 Herd Redirectio...
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I used fringe when i should have used periphery.  Semantics.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:00 | 4007042 29.5 hours
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@everyman,

Strange, I strongly wanted to vote you up and just as strongly vote you down.

Your are right--resistence is not futile and is worth the effort to posterity. The grim struggle of our nation's founders gives testimony.

But resistence is also very hard when we still remain without strong national organizations with solid, experienced leadership. Lots of brave individuals continue to suffer terrible blows because we are not united and working in solidarity.

 

 

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:21 | 4007159 bonin006
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Here is an interesting sci fi story about resistance, and whether it is worth it even if it destroys you:

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/32878/32878-h/32878-h.htm

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 18:13 | 4007308 29.5 hours
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Thanks for the reference. I've been thinking about reading sf again.

 

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 18:28 | 4007340 Herd Redirectio...
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Short version:  We hang together, or we hang seperately.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:59 | 4007054 Seasmoke
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Already Done.....But i dont see many coming to help the cause

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 18:34 | 4007347 James
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If one is working @ a regular job and wants to start a business file a W-9 form w/the IRS.

This stops FED tax deductions  while you get started.

Lets say you always wanted an RV. Start, say, a mobile dog grooming service. Run free ads on Craigslist and elsewhere to show/prove intent of performing business. In the mean time enjoy RV. You can do this for up to 5 years.

Get creative on this.

Lets say you enjoy hunting. Buy a cabin and acreage and start a "hunting guide" business.

 

The problem with po' folk is they don't use their brain.

Edit: I did this once myself. It worked.

 

 

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:42 | 4006973 NotApplicable
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There's only one flaw with your cunning plan, known as payroll deduction.

Very, very few people actually pay their own taxes directly.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:53 | 4007010 Normalcy Bias
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Yep, and it's by design, of course. If there were no withholding and people actually had to cut a check for the full amount at the end of the year, there'd be a revolution.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:06 | 4007084 1100-TACTICAL-12
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Thats why you claim married and 13 like the wetbacks....

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:53 | 4007270 Keyser
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Wetbacks fill out a W-4 where you live? Imagine that!!!

 

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:23 | 4007160 robochess
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They'd be out of business before they can pull that off and corps probably wouldn't participate... how's that!

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 19:44 | 4007575 James
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"Very, very few people actually pay their own taxes directly".

 

And until you do, for most people, you will never create wealth, You will give your life energy away and never live up to your potential.

 

Example: You see those Hummers on the street and think that guy is rich. Not necessarily. You can bet he owns his own business though. When Congress passed vehicle mileage standards for Light trucks (Chevy S-10 or a Ford Ranger) this was done as a incentive to buy these vehicles used in business and you got special write-offs for doing so. And GM lobbied Congress to include the Hummer as a high-mileage vehicle. These are a total write-off for these businesses.

 

Moral of story - An accountant does'nt cost money. He makes you money. A layman starting out the first thing he does is run ads. Wrong. Get a good accountant first. It matters not what you are paid if you do not protect that and use it to grow thru tax strategy.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:53 | 4007018 Catflappo
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That should work pretty well - if you don't pay your taxes, they won't be able to fund the police force and so they won't even be able to arrest you!

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:27 | 4007184 OwnSilverPlayMusic
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I love gov't logic.  Pay us now or we'll spend 50,000 a/yr of some other poor shmuck's tax dollar to incarcerate you.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:25 | 4007170 spiral galaxy
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Heck, you only need to top 1 percent or less of all taxpayers to stop paying taxes to account for some 90 percent of the government revenue.   So if we all do our due diligence and each of us takes ......oh, five or so phone numbers of banks, hedge funds, social media, Buffet and Gates, .....heck we can knock this task out before midnight!   However, someone has to cut the electricity to the Federal Reserve to stop the government funding printing presses.   Anyone out there work for PEPCO? :-)

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:41 | 4006956 Goldbugger
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Everyone is now an enemy of the republic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nk8GyPI_C3M

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:41 | 4006957 takeaction
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Shut it down!!!

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:40 | 4006959 slotmouth
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Resignation speech?

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:54 | 4007023 Moe Howard
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we can only hope. 4 change.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:41 | 4006961 lolmao500
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Really it's the fault of all house leaders in the last 30 years + all FED heads since 1913.

Without the House approving ridiculous budgets none of this would have happened.

The Justus department is also guilty for not prosecuting all the criminality that goes on in congress, at the WH and Wall Street.

Also the Supreme Court for letting government run amok and ruling again and again in favor of more federal power.

A shitload of people needs the guillotine.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:49 | 4006996 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  A shitload of people needs the guillotine.

Yeah, but, everybody living off of  Big-Ag, Big-MIC, Big-Road, Big-Water, Big-Airport, Big-Energy, Big-Ed, Big-House, Big-Fin, Big-OldFart, Big-OldFartHealthcare, Big-AntiDrug & Big-PoliceState are laughing too hard at the dumbasses paying for their good life to bother with guillotines.

 The system is working very well for the top 20%.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:44 | 4006968 Lei_in_AZ
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Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:43 | 4006969 Lei_in_AZ
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I think there are some kitten meme's I need to catch up on instead...

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:43 | 4006975 explainstuff
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They can say whatever crap they want to.

 

How do trade imbalances on days like this impact next day's trading? So for example - today's trade imbalance at close was 15-30. Does this mean the market makers just take the bid higher to balance it out? How does this information even help?

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:43 | 4006978 Tenshin Headache
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What's the over/under on how late he is going to be?

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:49 | 4007003 RacerX
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Just a thought: It'll be as close to 5 as possible. He's going to want to have the last word before the nightly news rotations.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:52 | 4007006 SilverIsKing
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Are we measuring based on standard time or CPT?  Important to know before establishing the betting line.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:58 | 4007038 Tenshin Headache
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Do I have time to smoke a joint? He's a lot easier to handle when I'm choomed.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:45 | 4006983 NOTaREALmerican
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It's my fault,  I take full responsiblity.    I had no idea it would come to this.   It started out as a prank, and just got out of hand.   I never expected people to actually take me seriously.      Look,  it was just for fun.    Can we all go back like it was before and pretend nothing ever happened?

Sorry about that...   Look,   I didn't know, ok...   I never thought people would think it was for-real,  jeeez...

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:44 | 4006985 RacerX
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since this is AfterHours do you think he's trying to catch all the shorts?

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:02 | 4007061 Jethro
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Only if those shorts are on Reggie Love.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:49 | 4006986 nonclaim
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At this point all I hope is for a shut up.

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:47 | 4006987 Gold N Glocks
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Fuck you Barry Soerto and the fucking camel you rode in on!

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:48 | 4006992 Sudden Debt
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DENNIS!!!!!!!

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:47 | 4006993 peter4805
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I can't watch it on this computer but my guess is he said everyone but himself is to blame. Was I close?

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:48 | 4006997 jrpuffnstuff
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Quiet, Dear Leader nears.   He loves us, his people, and he will let us know the error in our ways.  I love you Dear Leader!  Ripping off my clothes and crying. 

Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:48 | 4006999 Theta_Burn
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  • HOUSE PLAN SAID TO CUT HEALTH SUBSIDIES FOR LAWMAKERS, STAFF; U.S. HOUSE WILL TRY TO PASS NEW EMERGENCY FUNDING BILL REQUIRING OBAMA AND ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS TO SIGN UP FOR OBAMACARE-REP. ISSA
  • Is this not the pimpest thing to come out of Issa's mouth in a long time?

    Our .gov = usless fucking eaters the lot of them....

    Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:11 | 4007096 10mm
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    So there is no interest in killing Obama Care. You guys take it,im not gonna take,you guys take it. Im not gonna take it. Hey,let's get Mikey (Sheeple). He likes it he likes it.

    Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:50 | 4007000 robertocarlos
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    Oh Wait, I get Meals on Wheels, turn those govts back on!

    Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:49 | 4007001 Lei_in_AZ
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    oh great, watching with the sound off it looks like Larry, Moe and Curly

    Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:54 | 4007013 DOT
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    Who are those guys?

    Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:58 | 4007040 Moe Howard
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    the three news stooges.

    Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:02 | 4007066 DOT
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    With-out the slap stick it's lame.

    Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:51 | 4007008 Shizzmoney
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    It's all a tv show....and probably more of a snuff film

    Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:52 | 4007014 thismarketisrigged
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    the president will be late, he just needs a few minutes to get ready after his golf game.

    Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:53 | 4007015 Randoom Thought
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    I have a different idea. How about dissolving the entire government, let a month pass and then restart the Federal government from scratch in a month or so ... no hurry.

    State and local governments will still exist and companies and individuals will be encouraged to come up with their own solution to issues, such as the lack of an FAA.

    People, companies and agencies dependent on Federal dollars will either have to come up with other funding or close.

    Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:59 | 4007057 Jethro
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    How about we just start with a clean slate, make the Constitution and Bill of Rights "black letter law", and go from there?

    Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:17 | 4007141 Seize Mars
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    Sorry Jethro but those documents already are. That's not really the problem. It's enforcing the law that seems to be the problem.

    Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:44 | 4007249 Jethro
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    I agree with you. Many of our elected officials treat these documents as "open to interpretation" however. And why does our president keep saying that we're a democracy? Some Constitutional scholar he is....

    Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:07 | 4007085 NOTaREALmerican
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    Re:  How about dissolving the entire government

    Why would the top 20%, who own and manage the entire government, and get most of the benefits from it want to dissolved something that works so well at distributing loot upward?  

    All the people that matter the most living off of:   Big-Ag, Big-MIC, Big-Road, Big-Water, Big-Airport, Big-Energy, Big-Ed, Big-House, Big-Fin, Big-OldFart, Big-OldFartHealthcare, Big-AntiDrug, & Big-PoliceState would not think very highly of your bad idea.

    Mon, 09/30/2013 - 18:15 | 4007281 smartstrike
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    One thing all these people have in common --they're all white crackers. That's why we have illegal immigration -CRACKERS WANT SLAVE LABOR.

    This is not a joke, the middle class is same as the 1% elites. I mean don't you see how conceited, greedy and predatory whites are! They accuse blacks of being criminals and then run away from their own crimes to hide in gated communities. Man up whites don't all become selfish, thieving crackers.

    Mon, 09/30/2013 - 18:35 | 4007353 Herd Redirectio...
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    The world system currently in place certainly isn't capitalist.  Crony capitalist kleptocratic oligarchy is a better description.

    I agree with you that white collar crimes (no pun intended) are largely unenforced.  But your use of the word cracker does little for your case.  You may want to dig in the thesaurus for better descriptive words.

    Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:11 | 4007016 Dre4dwolf
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    On one side the Obamacare crap is good, you can get insurance if your sick.... and you can't lose it when you get sick.

    On the other side, since most people (most young people anyway) will be forced to choose between a petty fine or an extremely expensive health-care plan, most young people will opt out and pay the fine or ignore the fine and take it to court if they have the time, which means that premiums will keep getting jacked up to hit up the morons who did sign up for money till they rage quit their insurance.

     

    In the end, a few people who would of normally been denied insurance will get some kinda health-care (if they can afford one or two payments).

    And

    Everyone else will probably have no insurance (because its too expensive to maintain.)

     

    In the end, I think its going to be cheaper to just pay for medical treatment out of pocket than it would be to have insurance under Obama care.

     

    Thats the problem.

     

     

    The only way a Nationalized Health Care system can work with 300,000,000 people is if all the hospitals and doctors are nationalized and all doctors and practitioners work for the govt. (the death of private practices really).... and to have "no insurance" system at all, just a system where the costs of health care for the masses is paid for by the state directly no matter what the patient needs.

     

    Just make health insurance illegal as an industry, lay everyone off and nationalize it.... under Obama care its inevitable that the insurance companies will be receiving some kinda of bailout/compensation.... and health care costs will sky-rocket.

     

     

    From the design of the plan, I would say the intention was not to make health-care affordable, but to raise the income tax by another 1~2% without actually raising the income tax.... because the fine is 1%~2% of your income.... or 100$ or w.e is greater.....

     

    So the income tax just went up another 2% give or take from Obama care.... and in return YOU MIGHT get health care of some sorts (probably shit health care) . . . 

     

    IDK the whole thing stinks.

    Id rather see them slash govt spending, lower the income tax this way people can have more money to spend on health-care opposed to trying to force everyone to buy a shit product they dont want for a shit ton of money....

     

    I guess we will see what happens, these kind of suedo govt economics always have unintended consequences.....

     

     

    My plan if Obama care is implemented is to not buy it and ignore the fine and force them to take me to court for it honestly............. make it as expensive as possible for them to collect the fine so that in the end they just give up (if they have to hire a lawyer 1000$ retainer to collect a 1000$ fine from me, im sure common sense will kick in and they will just fucking give up the claim . . . )

     

    The only way that this can "work" is if premiums are locked to inflation (cap them/price controls) and the fine is over 20,000$.... which is just crazy, because if it comes down to that, im sure a lot of people would evade the fine or leave the country.... because at that point its insanity.

     

     

    -----------

    TO ME the best solution is to subsidize doctors for taking patients with no insurance at all!

    IE: If a treatment ranges for 300$ to treat a patient (dental or w.e) give the doctor a tax deducation of 30% if he treats the patient for 210$ cash/check no insurance.

    WALLA you just slashed health care costs by 30%.

    .O/C you need some kind of over-sight.... it would have to be the job of the IRS to make sure doctors are not over-stating the cost of treatment, (IE: Peg the "avg cost of treatment to 40% above cost of materials (gloves/drugs/time).

     

    Honestly, it would just be better if there was no insurance at all and everyone paid out of pocket, doctors would have to lower their prices to retain customers (duh free market).

     

    Insurance is like student loans, BOOM YOU CREATED STUDENT LOANS now 100,000,000 more kids attend school to earn worthless degrees and the influx of demand drove the price of school up 2000% so no one can afford going to school WITHOUT A LOAN!

    So you took a system where people who wanted to go to school could work, save, and pay their way through school, and you turned it into a system where kids BORROW 50 GRAND + to attend school to earn a degree in some garbage field like philosophy and history.......................................... or worst ELA!

     

    Insurance 

    Loans

    and other "financial services" 

    are the bane of the free market.... they create HUGE BUBBLES and make normally obtainable products completely un-affordable without debt.

    So debt begets more debt, and debt becomes slavery, and slavery becomes poverty and then we are trapped in a socialist revolution where people are pissed off and capital is destroyed.

     

    This is why liberal socialism does not work.

     

    The only way to be successful as a society is to work hard, save, invest and to not have some asshole maniupulating all the money, numbers, statistics and handing out funny money loans causing bubbles and ruining peoples lives.

     

    FREE MARKETS

    AND REAL NON-FIAT CURRENCY

    AND

    NO FRACTIONAL RESERVE BANKING FRAUD "LENDING" is the only way to make everything affordable to everyone "who works and earns it".

     

    Under this B.S. System, even if you work hard and save, you can't afford JACK SHIT without DEBT, which only worstens the problem (as when you take on debt to afford something it makes that something less affordable to the guy behind you in line)

     

     

    Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:54 | 4007021 Unprepared
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    I have a drone to my right,

    And a Peace prize in my left hand

    But Putin said I can't fight

    When I drawn a line on the red sand

     

    The House of Saud

    And the Senate of AIPAC

    If I can't commit fraud

    Then can I rythm like Tupac

    Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:56 | 4007028 All Out Of Bubblegum
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    Washington, DC is a giant S&M ritual and Obama is The Gimp.

    Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:57 | 4007033 SheepDog-One
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    Who are those 3 assholes on the stage, ObaMao's buttboys?

    Mon, 09/30/2013 - 20:00 | 4007647 lakecity55
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    no, not young enough.

    Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:57 | 4007035 Jethro
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    Ah, crud. This effete, imperious douchebag doesn't know when to shut his cock-holster. Every single time he publicly yammers, he diminishes what remains of international goodwill towards the US.

    Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:56 | 4007036 Nephilim
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    Shoes at the ready boys

    Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:58 | 4007039 Yen Cross
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        The 3 village idiots playing with their Obama phones really exemplify the sorry state of affairs this country has become.

    Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:57 | 4007041 Platinum
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    I wonder how many packs a day he is up to...

    Mon, 09/30/2013 - 19:57 | 4007634 lakecity55
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    packs of what?

    Mon, 09/30/2013 - 16:57 | 4007045 Mr. Crisp
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    Why bother listening? He's a chronic liar.

    Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:05 | 4007077 crakinshot
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    Yup. I find the sound of his voice Offensive now.

    Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:19 | 4007150 robochess
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    Just now?

    Mon, 09/30/2013 - 17:59 | 4007284 Herd Redirectio...
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    And if he is scheduled to speak at, say, 10 am ET, I sure as hell wouldn't tune in before 10:40 am.  Its well known royalty made commoners wait...

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