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It's 12:01am, do you know where your government is?


S&P Futures are 1677, 10Y yield 2.65%, WTI $101.96, Gold $1329.00 - let's see where we open tomorrow...




Full Statement from The White House:



FROM: Sylvia M. Burwell, Director


SUBJECT: Update on Status of Operations


This memorandum follows the September 17,2013, Memorandum M-13-22, and provides an update on the potential lapse of appropriations.


Appropriations provided under the Consolidated and Further Continuing Appropriations Act, 2013 (P.L. 113-6) expire at 11:59 pm tonight. Unfortunately, we do not have a clear indication that Congress will act in time for the President to sign a Continuing Resolution before the end of the day tomorrow, October 1, 2013.


Therefore, agencies should now execute plans for an orderly shutdown due to the absence of appropriations. We urge Congress to act quickly to pass a Continuing Resolution to provide a short-term bridge that ensures sufficient time to pass a budget for the remainder of the fiscal year, and to restore the operation of critical public services and programs that will be impacted by a lapse in appropriations.


Agencies should continue to closely monitor developments, and OMB will provide further guidance as appropriate. We greatly appreciate your cooperation and the work you and your agencies do on behalf of the American people.



Now it's getting serious...





Via Russia Today,

Here is a handy list from Russia Today of the possible effects American citizens and the rest of the world could face now that the US Government has shutdown. The last government shutdown lasted 21 days, from December 1996 to January 1997, and cost the administration of US President Bill Clinton cost an estimated $2 billion, according to the White House’s Office of Management and Budget.

 1 Countdown to US default looms
  A halt of US government operations would drag the world’s biggest economy closer to bankruptcy, something unprecedented in US history. If no budget deal is done, the US would bump up against their “debt ceiling”  and run out of money by October 17. By then, the US government would have less than $30 billion cash on hand, Treasury Secretary Jacob Lew has calculated.

2 Hundreds of thousands of federal employees on furlough
  A one-time layoff of 800,000 people working for the US government would erode the earlier projected economic growth of 2.5 percent for the fourth quarter of 2013 by about 0.32 percentage points, according to a forecast by Mark Zandi, chief economist and co-founder of Moody's Analytics. That projection assumes a two-week shutdown. If it drags into a whole month, the loss of GDP would rise to 1.4 percentage points.

3 Troops’ paychecks stopped
  About 1.4 million military active-duty personnel would keep on working, but with their paychecks delayed. Approval for troops’ paychecks is dependent on Obama’s proposed 2014 federal budget being passed by Congress.

4 Women and children’s nutrition program threatened
 Pregnant women and new moms who are poor and facing “nutrition risk” won’t be able to buy healthy food, as a looming shutdown would put bracers on the $6 billion Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women Infants and Children (WIC).

5 $85 billion in cuts to federal programs
When a shutdown was last threatened in March 2013, it would have resulted in $85 billion in automatic cuts in spending on federal programs – many aimed at alleviating social hardship. The cuts, known as sequestration, would affect grants to local organizations and funds that keep those programs running.

6 Housing loans halted
US federal programs that provide for about 30 percent of all new loans in the housing market – a backbone of the country’s economy – will be shut down. Government funding of new businesses will also be halted, as well as workplace health and safety inspections.

7 Trade talks scuppered?
US plans to have a Pacific trade deal, the Trans Pacific Partnership, signed with the US’s Asian partners could stall, as Obama may decide not to travel to this weekend’s Bali, Indonesia meeting of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation nations. While he could still go if no deal is done by then, it could be a gift for his Republican opponents if Obama was seen to be jetting off to a tropical paradise at a time when federal employees were sent home without pay.


8 Visa delays likely

Thousands of Americans may not be able to get passports for foreign travel, and tourists travelling to the US will likely face delays in visa processing. During the last government shutdown in 1996-97, some 20,000-30,000 applications remained unprocessed daily.

9 Space program on hold
  Space agency NASA will be hit the most, as the agency will need to furlough about 97 percent of its employees, though it will continue to keep workers at Mission Control in Houston and elsewhere to support the International Space Station, where the two NASA astronauts currently on board, Michael Hopkins and Karen Nyberg, may not know whether they have jobs to come back to.

10 National parks, museums and zoos would close to the public
State-funded museums, art galleries and zoos across the country would keep their doors closed Tuesday, leaving thousands of employees furloughed and visitors unable to see attractions. US national parks, from Yosemite to the Shenandoahs, as well as Washington’s National Mall, Lincoln Memorial and Constitution Gardens, would also be closed.



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Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:01 | 4008436 Pool Shark
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Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:01 | 4008440 NemoDeNovo
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Wake me when the Riots and shit begins m'kay

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:04 | 4008451 strannick
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Yes we cant!

The difference between shutting down the government, and a dollar collapse, is that when you shut down the government, you think you can open it up again, because you still think the dollar has value. 

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:05 | 4008474 Troll Magnet
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well, so long as zerohedge stays open, i'll be okay.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:05 | 4008483 flacon
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Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:07 | 4008502 WayBehind
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They should shut it down for good ...

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:10 | 4008515 Xibalba
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What exactly got shut down?  

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:13 | 4008537 James_Cole
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All so ridiculous.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:14 | 4008547 DoChenRollingBearing
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I disagree, James.  A month-long shutdown would be a fabulous experiment, a great day for freedom.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:16 | 4008558 DoChenRollingBearing
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The House should just send one spending Bill at a time to the Senate, first one (say) for funding the Nat'l Parks.  Then the House should send another.  Then another, then another, then another.

And never send over anything for Obamacare.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:18 | 4008572 covsire
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Boner used all his braincells for this shutdown, I dont expect anything else intelligent from him for awhile.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:23 | 4008597 The Devil
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When the government is shut down...I run at the public pool, and they can't stop me.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:32 | 4008625 TruthInSunshine
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All part of The Great Kabuki Dance of the false left-right paradigm (aka the illusion that "voters" have any real choice in the Corpocracy that is the USSA).


Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:39 | 4008644 McMolotov
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Still, I can't help but hear this in my head:

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:45 | 4008668 Richard Chesler
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Fuck you Obama!



Tue, 10/01/2013 - 01:18 | 4008743 strannick
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Obama tweeting its all the Repubs fault. Quelle Surpreeze

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 02:14 | 4008804 old naughty
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sh't happens...

zoos and museums close,

we don't have to go there to see animals and relics, do we?

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 02:30 | 4008822 fourchan
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who gives a shit shut it all down, its all owned by the banks and corporations anyway.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 02:53 | 4008840 Squid-puppets a...
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but you hafta marvel at the MSM who are happy to run with obama's narrative: i.e. that its the republicans who are irresponsible. So obama's mob can spend like there's no tomorrow, repubs put up a (however token) resistance, and its thems not the dems that are the irresponsible ones?

great aiding and abetting of the financial apocalypse, MSM

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 03:26 | 4008863 zhandax
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Who wants to bet me that the last thing to actually cease operations is the golf course at Andrews?

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 03:45 | 4008873 gold-is-not-dead
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LONG golf clubs and balls!

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 05:53 | 4008928 prains
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oil up the man boobs..... less chaffing when your're sitting around doing nuffhing


WTF's going on in the rest of the world anyway, Greece and Italy are going bonkers, ZH please don't go CNN on us and channel stuff every second of tomorrow with "Oh my Gawd". There's a whole big world of real pain out there.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 06:17 | 4008951 GetZeeGold
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Every minute is a billion in savings.



Damn I feel rich!

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 06:39 | 4008961 negative rates
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I think the shut is late.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 06:53 | 4008971 lewy14
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Tue, 10/01/2013 - 01:29 | 4008759 Boris Alatovkrap
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Tue, 10/01/2013 - 01:37 | 4008768 TruthInSunshine
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In Russia, Putin wrestle black bear into submission while bare chested.

In USSA, bear skin rug wrestle Obama into submission after 1/2 a beer.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 01:49 | 4008793 Skateboarder
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TIS, you forgot the liquor counter for Putin. He would be past a fifth of vodka, easy.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 05:15 | 4008917 NidStyles
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Pfft. that's how much he has with his cereal in the morning.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 07:51 | 4009078 kralizec
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I thought Reggie wrestled Obama into submission on the bear rug with no alcohol involved at all?

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 11:17 | 4009903 Boris Alatovkrap
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Smart because mix alcohol with cocaine is very unadvise.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:39 | 4008651 Squid-puppets a...
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Actors can only do so much with a bad script

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 01:25 | 4008693 The Big Ching-aso
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As long as cold beer flows,

and football plays,

life ain't so bad,

in the Good Ol' U.S.A.*


*If however any of these stop for even a minute we're seriously in a bad way folks.   Keep an eye on those taps and flat-screens for signs the End Times Are Nigh.   Stay thirsty my friends.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 01:15 | 4008735 palmereldritch
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The Zombie Apocalypse will not be televised...unless the shutdown lasts more than a year

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 05:07 | 4008915 merizobeach
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"unless the shutdown lasts more than a year"

Sigh.  Dammit, I just want to see the USuckAss torn apart in a zombie apocalypse.  Is that too much to ask for?

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:56 | 4008692 JohnG
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It's obvious.  The markets screamed


Tue, 10/01/2013 - 04:54 | 4008908 indygo55
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Exactly! As if they didn't know this was coming a week, month or year ago. If their paychecks were in jepordy this would never have happened. All a distraction. HOW ABOUT karen Hudes?

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 04:58 | 4008909 indygo55
Tue, 10/01/2013 - 06:49 | 4008966 nmewn
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Fucking moonbats on parade:

A Wisconsin middle school has been forced to apologize after showing students a video produced after Barack Obama's 2008 election that included celebrities pledging to 'be a servant to the President.'

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 08:26 | 4009182 Pegasus Muse
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Caution:  Working in Hollywood may cause terminal stupidity.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 01:37 | 4008769 Freddie
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I am not crazy about Boehner but you sound liek Obama & reid supporter. Nice. Idiot.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 02:05 | 4008799 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 1


You know, Freddie, the R-Team has been so spineless and disappointing re freedom...  But, if there is any silver lining here, it would be that we can all see the ugly faces of Obama, Reid & Pelosi as they destroy our country.  

I wonder if it will now even make any difference now that the people can see what they elected.

We get the government we deserve.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 03:23 | 4008858 MisterMousePotato
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*I* get the government that *they* deserve.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 06:17 | 4008949 KidHorn
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I don't like either party, but republican backers are about as dumb as mud. The pubs are refusing to fund something that was passed fair and square years ago and you somehow see that as standing up for freedom.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 06:32 | 4008955 overmedicatedun...
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kid, fair and square?? maybe you should define that as like passing it before we know whats in it? with 0 opposition votes -you know your fair and square would make any dictator proud.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 04:04 | 4008882 DIgnified
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He's part and parcel to the problem.  That cunty fuck, Graham, Reid, McConnell, McCain, that Oklahoma turd... They all play the phony roll of "opposites".   There's only one party, the best shot at a real second party had only a few people in good positions. 

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 06:31 | 4008954 GetZeeGold
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Only thing I hate worse than progressive democrats....are progressive republicans.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:43 | 4008573 dryam
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Shutdown?, my ass.

Stopping the money printing?, may ass.

Stopping the whole fucking charade?, may ass.

Why even talk about this crap?  Why not just say they are playing games like they always do and wait for them to proclaim some sort of victory as they pass a new debt ceiling?  They want people to have the sense of suspense.  Don't feed the beast.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:47 | 4008672 ebworthen
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Same game, new day.

I keep hearing pundits say "When this happened in 1995 the Republicans got hurt for it come elections!".

Well...that was before the endless wars on "terror" protecting oil and poppy fields, and the bail outs of Wall Street, and the NSA spying in their own citizens, etc.

Not taking sides, but this time is different.

Can you smell it?

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 01:12 | 4008723 The Big Ching-aso
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Indeed, pull my finger.

Ok, I'm confused.      

What's worse, a government shutdown today, not raising the debt ceiling in 17 more days, or putting off all the problems until next year so we can have a longer government shutdown and raise an even bigger debt ceiling again?

Oh wait.  I think someone asked the exact same question during the last shutdown and they just got the answer today.



Tue, 10/01/2013 - 03:47 | 4008874 gold-is-not-dead
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perhaps the shutdown is the false flag...

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 05:17 | 4008918 NidStyles
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How about they shut down everything and just send everyone home instead? I know a lot of people that would be a lot happier with that outcome.


Tue, 10/01/2013 - 02:15 | 4008807 John_Coltrane
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Now, we're talking a real sequester!  And here's the other good thing.  With less spending the debt ceiling won't be reached as fast, something no one in the MSM has recognized.  In fact, if they could just cut 1/3 of spending the debt ceiling wouldn't have to be raised at all.

Hope all those FED "workers" have been accumulating some savings.  LOL

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 02:53 | 4008841 Tall Tom
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"Not taking side, but this time is different"


LMAO So...It is different this time? Nope. It is NOT different this time. It was fun while this was happening during the Clinton Era. They just contributed a little to taking out the Far East Economies. Wake me when Japan dumps the US Treasuries and the FED can no longer buy them. 


It is NOT different this time. Enjoy the show and get some good entertainment. That is what the drama is worth...the entertainment value.


It is NOT the end of the End Game. We are in the First Quarter. There is time on the clock. But there is not a lot of time. Hope you got some Gold and Silver.


Hell it is just starting to get interesting.


It is the Red Team Beavers against the Blue Team Trojans.


Wait...They are approaching the End Zone? They will need to get some real good penetration and slide it right in, shove it up the middle and find the crack. Hmmm...They will run the seam route.. Hope you have the K-Y Jelly shoves right in. and Red Team scores!!! Support our sponsors. 


Boner says, "It was hard. But we pushed it in for the score. I used to be a Tight End but now I am a Wide Receiver."


Blue Team gets the Ball on the 25...Oblamo takes the Hand Off, Shoots to early. Incomplete. They line up. Oblamo takes the SNAP and throws it to Freeloader Hill? What in the hell is he thinking?


Yes that Blue Team belongs to the SSA Conference while the Red Team is playing for the MIC. But the FED, G&S, and JPM are all backing these guys. Support our sponsors.


Entertainment. A meaningless game.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 03:07 | 4008852 ebworthen
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Agree, not different from the side of the CONgressional lapdogs of the TBTF banks and corporations; different from the perspective of many more Americans who feel much differently about both tents of the circus.

Make no mistake there is no shortage of red/blue sheeple still believing this makes a difference, but there are many more who see the wolves in sheeps clothing than saw them back in 1995-'96.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 03:30 | 4008865 Tall Tom
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They have to go hungry, dude, before they will get off our thier rumps and wake up. That is just the Historical Pattern. I do not believe that we are there yet. However time is running out. It may not be this time. (I may be wrong. But I've got Gold as insurance.) It probably won't be next time. But time is not on our side.


You will know when it is time. Trust me it will be very bad when it happens. It will blow your mind how rapidly things degenerate. God speed, man.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 03:49 | 4008877 ebworthen
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Same to you, and in Gold I trust too.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 08:28 | 4009202 Ranger4564
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I have a feeling this is being done because the other tactics of overthrowing middle eastern governments and intimidating the general populace with the magnitude of the failure of our economy have not yet worked.  I've not yet decided whether the FED priming the pump towards a catastrophic hyperinflation, or the US dethroning all governments, was in itself the main strategy, but that it failed... I suspect there is no failure, because the landcape of these actions is like the leading edge of a waterfall... doesn't matter how the water gets down there, once it's past a certain point, every route results in water over the edge. That's us and the global collapse.

This should be seen by the average citizen as a "nudge" in the Wake The Fuck Up direction. Sadly, people who have unplugged their alarm clocks will never hear the wake up call. If you believed in the hype this long, you probably can't even recognize the broader story that's unfolding, instead focusing on the microscopic pimple on the end of your own nose. That's why getting lost in details is getting lost. Myopic.

I believe we're witnessing the alternative method to a global collapse. It has almost nothing to do specifically with US policy, more to do with initiating another round of global instability.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 01:38 | 4008773 CPL
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Bingo.  It's all theater.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 08:21 | 4009164 Ranger4564
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Actually, this is a well-enough orchestrated act in the larger tragic drama that's laughably been called the global economy for god knows how long. It's been a fabrication for centuries, driven by imperialism and false economies, and we're the latest dumb asses to be victimized by the charade simply because we believe in the hype. I know a lot of people feel informed and look down on the ignorant, but why not consider that even now, we know almost nothing about what real world history has been, and recognize that we're just as ignorant as ever?

Anyway, articles like this, and many others that appear to give credence to the bull shit stories, really bug me, because they don't get to the heart of the matter, they pander to the projected message. I recognize however, as a formal publication, without evidence, they can't just publish speculation or they'll be prosecuted or ignored or something else... nonetheless, at least the readers seem to recognize the fallacy.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:12 | 4008542 strannick
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If the 7-11s stay open, then its no biggie

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:39 | 4008646 U4 eee aaa
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They aren't government. They are too well run and practical. Plus, the government would never come up with such high quality service uniforms

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:46 | 4008671 TruthInSunshine
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They won't even get dinged in the revenue area because the "swipe 'yo JP Morgan administered EBT" brigade is unaffected, and they can purchase all the Slim Jims & Gatorade their hearts desire.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 01:15 | 4008732 Fail2Deliver
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skittles,iced tea, and Robotussin

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 01:38 | 4008774 TruthInSunshine
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And K2 foshizzle.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 01:40 | 4008778 Freddie
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Anyone who accepts EBT is govt including Wal Mart, 7-11, et al.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 07:21 | 4008998 GMadScientist
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7-11s are all owned by terrorists.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 01:48 | 4008791 merizobeach
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No!  NO!!!  Goddammit, I want the SNAP cards shut off NOW!  I want to see the zombie apocalypse, or if it's not broadcast, then I at least want know that it's happening!  (I'd happily rely on ZH and commenters' anecdotes..)  But I want that cancerous society to meltdown, not just its fascist government.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 03:01 | 4008849 Herd Redirectio...
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Well, wait for EBT cards to stop working, and then count down 72 hours.  You will see some shit.  Hopefully from a distance.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:59 | 4008700 Overfed
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DWTS is still on. Everything is fine.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:19 | 4008551 Pool Shark
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For the average American, this means you will have to live through the horror of closed National Parks (In October; big loss), some museums, and oh, yeah, the mail might be a little slower than usual...

Also, they may have to lay off Immigration Agents, but who would notice any difference?

On the positive side; you may not get groped by TSA agents.

Hey, wait a minute; I thought the sequester was supposed to shut down the airports due to the layoff of air traffic controllers. Whatever happened to that? Just as I thought...



Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:32 | 4008624 Bollixed
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MDB must be wetting his bed at this point.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 03:33 | 4008867 zhandax
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Nope, no slower mail; they actually produce revenue.  Unaffected.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:16 | 4008564 Dre4dwolf
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Nothing, some parks and junk............... museums and shit.

Govt is open

Military is open

Social Security is open


The only thing that close that actually matters a little is NASA, but they were de-funded a while ago anyway, the janitor at nasa is sitting by the microphone just incase our guys in the space station get bored and want someone to talk to.... 

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:33 | 4008620 cougar_w
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They shut down the things people need on a daily basis (USPS, archives, library, monuments, Capitol police, who knows what) the better to punish us for not taxing ourselves into debtors prison.

Fuckers in Congress, they get paid. And their staff and the military/mercs. NSA is operational. Airport security is there to grope your crotch. SS checks go out. Old guys on Medicare get new livers so they can go on drinking. The Whitehouse staff get paid. The hookers outside the Senate get paid.

Nothing changes in the real world of politics. Nothing. Ever. Forever.

Or at least until it all catches fire. Then yeah, it pretty much changes.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:35 | 4008631 DoChenRollingBearing
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Excellent comment, I see lots of green coming your way...

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:46 | 4008674 Pool Shark
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You can be certain that Obama is giving all federal department heads strict instructions to make targeted cuts that hurt the common citizen most.

Never let a crisis go to waste?...


Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:51 | 4008689 cougar_w
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They need to break us before the actual shit hits the actual fan. They will have their paramilitary in place, their draconian laws, their spy apparatus, their FEMA camps. Every duck all lined up. Drones in the sky 24/7, spies and rats in every school and mall. They'll break us so bad that when the actual deal goes down we'll be husks of men, shells, golums. Nothing and empty. And from our broken homes and desolate communities they will lead us to our ruin from which only annihilation and fire will free us.

Watch for it. All things point to this.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:58 | 4008699 DoChenRollingBearing
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I hope to be ready for coming through to the other side.  If not, maybe I'll watch all of the burning from Peru.

I am still debating whether to stand & fight, or run away to fight another day (with my $$$).

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 01:01 | 4008702 cougar_w
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run away, as there is nothing left of value to fight for.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 05:20 | 4008920 Parrotile
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Worth remembering - "He who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day"

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 07:21 | 4009002 GMadScientist
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Generally spoken from exile. But you didn't want to go home again anyway, right?

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 01:01 | 4008707 Pool Shark
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Hey, DoChen; maybe you've been reading too much Simon Black...

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 01:08 | 4008724 DoChenRollingBearing
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I have lots of nice in-laws and a company in Peru.  We would be just fine down there.  Except for the nasty winters (May - Oct), they are not that bad, it's just that no one has heating.  Brr...  Other then that, we have a nest there.  We would be fine, even have hi-speed internet at the house & office.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 02:19 | 4008788 Freddie
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What a Buzz Kill from the Cougar guy. All the govt goons and thugs mostly have family.  When it falls apart - their family will be affected just as much as everyone else.   The whole Boston false flag bullshit made me optimistic.  They had one kid and 300 officers and Massachusetts lib sheep hiding in their homes.  The bravest guy wa sthe one who walked to Dominoes.

Mr. bad ass body armor TSA/DHS better be at home with the wife and kids when shit starts to fall apart because the whole neighborhood will know he is a govt agent.  The neighbors may not hurt his family, they should not, but I bet they will steal all of his shit to send a message real fast.  Who side are you on G man? I bet the next day he calls in sick for good.

When the wall fell - Poland, East Germany and others the army quickly sided with the public.   Romania took a little longer but the army then smashed Nikolai Cheuchescu's praetorian guard in a week or less.

The Stasi in East Germany just melted away.  Ask Merkel.  The problem is they go into hiding and become part of the "new" leadership. 

This data is a bit old but still probably close:

(Licensed Resident Deer Hunters)
Pennsylvania 1,299,372
Michigan 1,005,000
Wisconsin 894,543
New York 812,446
Texas 645,000

(Licensed Resident Gun Hunters)
Pennsylvania 1,000,000
Michigan 675,000
Wisconsin 656,164
New York 643,534
Texas 570,000

How many have scoped .308 rifles that can reach out and touch a deer or something else?


CCW states (I skipped a few but the link shows them all):

Alabama 350,000

AZ  204,374

CT (WTF?)  176,446

Florida 1.14 million

GA 660,000

Indiana 493,000

KY 216,463 (Kentucky population is pretty small)

Mich just under 512,000

PA   786,000  ( how many are deer hunters? I would say most of them)

TN (much smaller in pop than TX)  428,919

TX  584,850

UT 411,604 !  They have  apretty small population

WA ( "liberal" WA state = where easter WA state is not liberal at all)  359,342

You get the picture.  Their plan is to pit everyone against each other and go hide in the Ozarks, Hawaii and a few other places. Their plan is to starve us and use biologicals, HAARP, other weapons.


Just go to the end to see the underground storage.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 02:24 | 4008819 Maverick Ninefingers
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AZ's numbers are low because they passed a statute allowing concealed carry without a permit a few years back.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 03:07 | 4008851 Freddie
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How many of those fine people in AZ will want to have a little talk with John McCain and Jeff Flake when things fall apart?  The AZ Senate amnesty twins.  Good luck hiding up in Sedona.

Supposedly he sold this.  My guess is they will hold up in DC or fly off to Hawaii when things really start falling apart.

At the last McCain town hall in AZ - that old guy was about to tar and feather or lynch McCain.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 07:09 | 4008981 NidStyles
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More than a few. McCain has won his last election here. and Flake will be lucky if he makes a second term.This barring a complete collapse of society in general here.


AZ resident here. I'm one of those couple hundred firearms owners.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 07:23 | 4009005 GMadScientist
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Good god but you give stupid a bad name.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 02:17 | 4008809 buyingsterling
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Things look a little different if you live in the country and have some capacity to sustain your family if things go south. If you live anywhere else you're pretty much fodder.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 02:23 | 4008814 Freddie
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Very true.  Their allies will get food and they will starve their enemies.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 07:07 | 4008979 NidStyles
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Apparently Obama didn't notice that half of the country is genetically German. You know the same genetic stock that survived for thousands of years kicking the shit out everyone that came their way with flights of tyranny in their eye's? Greeks, they turned back and avoided the Barbarian hordes. Romans? They fought Germania for hundreds of years to complete standstill until their collapse. Napolean? That bastard was hiring the Germans to fight for him if they would. The same with the British when they came to the US fighting. All of the good genetic stock there that was left, fought in both World Wars against vastly larger forces and kicked the shit out of them until they ran out of fuel.

That same genetic stock and tenacity is in over half the country, if only they had something that would wake them up like a complete Police State or economic collapse. Ever wonder why they never speak about Germanic people's in the US, why they are just called, "WHITES", rather than what they are? Why Germanic values are the ones being destroyed constantly by the socialists. The traditions of the familial unit, and warrior spirit to live free and of one's own accord.Go back and read some of the Germanic customs and how they lived. They were the first group of people in the ancient world to stand up and give the tyrants the finger. Ever since then the tyrants have targeted that same genetic stock for elimination and repression. Each nation that those genetic traits came from has been crushed by diluting their cultural stock and socialist reforms and propaganda. Every chance they got they invaded and tried to control that region simply because of what came out of it. The best warriors to survive the test of time. The asymmetric barbarian, who needs no leadership and can form bonds with like cultures on the fly.

I'm not a nationalist or a white nationalist of any sort, but I understand genetic traits and how they are passed down well enough to know that the moment they interrupt the lives of those people, things will get ugly fast for the government. They will organize literally over night. Many of them are already organized and ready if they start anything. This is not going to be a peaceful pacification like the G-men think. Those boys in those fancy costumes are going to get their teeth kicked in by generations of repressed barbarism. 



That is my two-cents on the topic. I don't think this is going to be an easy fight when the shooting starts by any means, but I already know who the victors will be, and it's not the feds. They are going to get their shit pushed in, and they will never see it coming.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 07:30 | 4009018 GMadScientist
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Good fighting stock, but not that bright though. My Scot ancestors would have wiped the floor with you Goth scum.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:52 | 4008687 TruthInSunshine
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If this means some United States Department of Agriculture 23 million USD study of the sex lives of fruit flies is canceled or delayed, or a research symposium as to how wet water can get at the San Francisco Branch of the Federal Reserve is canceled, I'm GONNA START BREAKING SHIT!

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 01:03 | 4008714 James
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Then this fact will send you over the edge TIS.

The Panda cam @ the National zoo has been turned off. Oh, the humanity.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 01:40 | 4008746 TruthInSunshine
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Harry "Chicken Ranch" Reid WAS RIGHT AFTER ALL!!!

Shit just got real, yo.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 01:46 | 4008790 Meat Hammer
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Remember the last time the shutdown was looming and Harry Reid was talking about the loss of funding for the Cowboy Poetry Festival?  HAHA!  Good times.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 02:07 | 4008800 DoChenRollingBearing
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Thanks for the smile!

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 05:35 | 4008930 Parrotile
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Fruit flies cost California alone around $ 1.2 billion in revenue loss annually so $23 million is less than 2% of this loss. If the research identifies avenues for sustainable (as in non-chemical) control (maybe using the "irradiated males" strategy), it'll be money VERY well spent.

Basic entomology may not seem essential or glamorous, but it really is, especially in a World where "organic" production is the only long-term sustainable means of production, so we might as well develop non-chemical management before the petrochemical crisis hits.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 07:13 | 4008984 NidStyles
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Here's an idea, quit counting fruit that is destroyed before you can sell it as a loss. Problem solved.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 07:35 | 4009011 GMadScientist
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You're preaching to people who don't even understand that killing off the bees will have consequences.

And that's something that private industry can research just as well as UC. ;)

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 02:26 | 4008821 John_Coltrane
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Good comment, but to be realistic, "Old guys on Medicare get new livers so they can go on drinking." is silly. It implies alcholics live beyond 65 years.  Just doesn't happen-a recent German study shows the life expectancy of alcholics is about 20 years below norm which is 79 for males in the US.  So, most are worm food before 60 years.  Even less  with heroin users.  In fact, alcholics, smokers and drug addicts save society a lot of costs by dying so young before they get treated for expensive chronic illnesses like heart disease, cancer and diabetes.  Another reason for the government to butt out of drug control of any kind and let natural selection do its bit.  (Will the DEA get shut down too?) 

I read the IRS won't be able to do audits (boo hoo) without a budget.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 03:18 | 4008856 Tall Tom
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Okay since you are into accuracy I will fix that for you...YOUNGER THAN 65 Year Old Alcoholics whom are receiving SSI and Medicare because of a Mental Disability and Alcoholism (Dual Diagnosis) will not get new livers so they can continue drinking.


(Yes they PAY out a Disability Check for that Dual Diagnosis. Many Mentally Ill are Substance Abusers.)



Tue, 10/01/2013 - 06:13 | 4008947 jerry_theking_lawler
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uh, i thought we were out of the 'space shuttle' business.....thought Russia made all of our replenishment stops to the ISS? So, what exactly does nasa do now?

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 10:16 | 4013550 Common_Cents22
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Well the govt SPENT MONEY to bring in BARRICADES at the Veterans Memorial, an open air freakin space.   Veterans in wheel chairs went through barriers and now some govt fucktwit says they will PAY mounted police during a shutdown to clear the memorial of these wheelchair hoodlum veterans!   You cannot make this shit up.

Congressman Bachmann says she and others will be there to help the veterans see the Memorial.   

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 06:51 | 4008967 NidStyles
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They should find a lonely guy to keep them company rather than Janitor. A janitor might be out trying to unclog the toilet when the Astronauts need something important.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 05:23 | 4008922 greatbeard
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>> What exactly got shut down?

The shit people actually use, plus assistance for the lowest on the economic rung.  Don't lose no sleep, MIC, FIRE, big Ag, big Pharma, they'll all be well greased.  These A-holes won't shut off funds to their cronies, only lowly citizens.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 06:38 | 4008960 Pumpkin
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Some park way out in Idaho somewhere.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 07:52 | 4009082 Abaco
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Give the park to Idaho. Give all the Federal land to the states..

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 06:42 | 4008963 Pumpkin
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Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:11 | 4008522 Jim in MN
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Operation Shitdawn

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:21 | 4008583 Renewable Life
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15 minutes in and I already FEEL better, I know the MIC is still up and snooping away, but it still feels good to know some of these god damn .gov workers are sitting at home in their $800,000 homes in the suburbs, crying like little bitchez!

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 01:07 | 4008720 U4 eee aaa
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The only problem is that they are like teenagers. You leave them home alone too long and you get the feeling in the back of your head that you should call the cops and ask them to check up on the residence....for everybody's safety

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 06:03 | 4008944 fockewulf190
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Weihmar Republic repeating all over again. Prepare yourselves. There will be blood.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:08 | 4008512 Zero Point
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Time to go camping, now those national park ranger assholes aren't there.

Just take a hacksaw and boltcutters for the gates.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:21 | 4008569 wee-weed up
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Just think...

Slick Willie and Monica can now "wet" an anniversary cigar in celebration!

They met when she brought a pizza into the Oral Office...

for him during the last gubbermint shutdown.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:52 | 4008688 Squid-puppets a...
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well then i wish a herpes ridden intern upon Obama this time around

try smiling through your explanation on Ellen DeGeneneres show with that one, Michelle

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 03:38 | 4008871 Tall Tom
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As Barry is a Homosexual it is far more likely that he comes down with AIDS than Michelle coming down with anything at all. Reggie was his last lover. He has had previous lovers including Rahm Emmanuel, who Obama shared a Lifetime Membership in Men's Country, a Chicago Gay District Bathhouse.


Larry Sinclair broke the story in 2008 as a former homosexual lover. The President has had a list of Homosexual lovers. It gives the phrase, "All of the President's Men", an entirely different meaning.


And Mitt Romney did not bring this up in 2012? It would have garnered him a couple of Percentage Points and the Presidency. Just what was Mitt Romney hiding?

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 04:20 | 4008897 Charles Bishop ...
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His gimp outfit.

what? you hadn't heard?

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:05 | 4008481 rfaze
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HIP HIP..........

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:09 | 4008520 ronaldawg
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burn it down! burn it all!!!

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:11 | 4008535 therevolutionwas
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but if the government shuts down and you think the dollar still has value will the dollar collapse?

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 02:38 | 4008829 Rogue Trooper
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Holder's showing 'Boner' those  compromising pictures as I type.....  

Just imagine, if they stay shut for say only 15 years, the debt could be repaid!

Yes we could!

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:05 | 4008479 varnelius
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Wake me when the Rats start to jump ship starts m'kay

Fixed it for ya.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 04:02 | 4008880 sessinpo
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NemoDeNovo      "Wake me when the Riots and shit begins m'kay"

 And you'll pay me what for that service?


Otherwise stay asleep. We aren't missing you anyway.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:08 | 4008497 SHEEPFUKKER

<----------------------Shut up(Boner, Obomber, McLame, et al)

<----------------------Shut down(this criminal "government")

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:36 | 4008635 WonderDawg
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How do I pick both?

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:13 | 4008544 Harbanger
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Big woop!  The US Govt. has been shutdown 17 times in the last 37 years, but that doesn't sound as dramatic.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:29 | 4008618 HardAssets
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riots ?   . . .  there outta be parades and dancing in the streets

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 02:19 | 4008812 buyingsterling
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Keep it shut and bring back the only riot control policy that ever worked - shooting them. We used to do it, then our testicles retracted.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:37 | 4008643 BLOTTO
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Don't worry Nemo...we wont have to wake you up

...the noise the electronic gadget zombies, thieves and liars make will.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 06:43 | 4008965 kita27
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The longer they stay shut the more the average joe realises he doesnt need a government after all.   I suspect they will sort their differences out and reopen govt before the 'people'  understand this.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:01 | 4008443 redpill
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I'm thankful I don't get nearly the amount of government I pay for.  Keep the gimp in the box!

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:38 | 4008645 walküre
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5 $85 billion in cuts to federal programs
When a shutdown was last threatened in March 2013, it would have resulted in $85 billion in automatic cuts in spending on federal programs – many aimed at alleviating social hardship. The cuts, known as sequestration, would affect grants to local organizations and funds that keep those programs running.

Taper came early for The Bernank! What a lucky guy! Never had to lift a finger, not even for the taper.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:06 | 4008465 El Tuco
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I'm going to send the kids out to bang on some pots and pans. This calls for a celebration...

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:04 | 4008470 wee-weed up
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Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:05 | 4008478 kchrisc
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My only question: Will drones still be flying and bombing wedding parties and will the TSA still have fast-food drop-outs bossing people around and feeling them up. If so, then it's nonsense.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:10 | 4008514 Overfed
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I just wonder if it means that O'bomb-a and Boner won't be golfing together anymore?

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:33 | 4008630 cougar_w
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Are you saying you don't love American democracy?

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:07 | 4008494 Jim in MN
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Is fake.  A city of photo ops, a Potemkin Shutdown, is being readied for first light.

Agencies are full to the gills with slush funds.  No budget is a laughable hindrance, a gnat's wing to an elephant.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:24 | 4008598 Angus McHugepenis
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Jim: Sure it's fake. Everyone knows that in their heart. Don't spoil the party. Let us have our moment.

I bid you a hearty "Allahu Snackbar"!

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:41 | 4008656 Jim in MN
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Do what you wanna

Do what you will

Just don't mess up your

Neighbor's thrill

And when you pay the bill

Kindly leave a little tip

And help the next poor sucker on his one-way trip

==Frank Zappa, 'The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing'

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:06 | 4008499 McMolotov
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This is what makes America exceptional.

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 01:39 | 4008777 FreedomGuy
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I listen to the Comrade in Chief and how without the U.S. Government overspending people will not eat, the sun will not shine, your friends in church will die, blah, blah, blah. I wonder what the hell people did before government was there to feed, cloth, heal, comfort, shelter and wipe their asses? When you hear what the President says without socialist filters, he is saying we are a pretty sorry, helpless and needy people. Must've been luck we became the preeminent superpower.

Do you suppose the NSA has stopped listening to our phone calls and checking out the porn on everyone's computers? Is that shut down, too?

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:11 | 4008521 SpykerSpeed
Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:12 | 4008543 McMolotov
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Yeah, bitch! </Jesse Pinkman>

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 00:20 | 4008565 20-20 Hindsight
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This is a total OBAMA-NATION!  

Tue, 10/01/2013 - 01:03 | 4008709 mkucstars
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Shut it down! Makes my day :)

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