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Republicans' Latest Strategy: Piecemeal Funding For Programs, Excluding Obamacare; White House Promptly Rejects
Update: And another quick rejection: CARNEY SAYS PIECEMEAL APPROACH TO FUNDING GOVT ‘NOT SERIOUS’
If the president was hoping to shame the Republicans into caving and passing a clean Continuing Resolution, by constantly blaming them about the broader government shutdown, he will have to shift his strategy. Moments ago Reuters and other wire services report, citing Republican Peter King, that House Republicans plan to pass three funding bills today to reopen Federal Parks, veteran programs and fund for the District of Columbia. In other words, little by little, the GOP will provide funding for everything... except Obamacare, which they will keep as a trump card up their sleeve until the debt ceiling negotiation comes to a head some time in the next week.
The question then becomes whether the Senate and Obama agree to pass partial funding measures, or throw these back at the House, even if in doing so they losee leverage and talking points, as the GOP can now claim they were willing to fund virtually every aspect of government but the healthcare act.
If this is indeed how the Republicans plan to proceed, the government shutdown, either en masse, or partially may extend far longer, and the debt ceiling debate will be even more contentious than most expected.
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Obama..
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Anyone else see this as just so many monkeys flinging their shit at one another?
Maybe the House and Senate will be relagated to the dustbin of history. All we really need is an Executive and a Banker to run the world. Obama and Bernanke can make love to each other all day long.
So will the phony conservatives have enough brains to realize since they're going to be blamed anyway, just do what they should do anyway, and shut the fucker down permanently?
A 2week shutdown will make Boner's Reps look like the pussies they are. Shut it down until the Dear Leader starts bustin' out wif' some executive orders...that would command some respect.
CNN has turned Wolf Blitzer's Situation Room set (with splashy graphics & war like drum rhythm background music) into a replica of The Jerry Lewis March of Dimes Telethon, except that instead of raising money for muscular dystrophy, they're parading government employee union bosses on, one by one, to tell the tales of devastating woe being already suffered by the "poor government, unionized, fringe benefited, pension spring loaded, employees."
Oh, the non-essential asswipes, eh?! The ones the Founders never intended to be employed by government but by private enterprise? Those asswipes?
Yeah, fuck them!
Pubbies are stupid though...they should be coming out saying the Shutdown is desired by Obama & Dem's so they can keep subsidies in place for their healthcare coverage so they don't have to suffer under the O"DumbassCare shit they are shoving down everybody else's throat!
Fuck them!
There are 25,000,000 government employees at the federal, state & local levels, many of whom have worked one or more government jobs previously, and are "double stacked" (collecting pension from prior government job while drawing salary from current government job).
Does anyone know how many of these 25,000,000 workers, drawing a collective taxpayer derived salary of 1.7 trillion USD annually, are "essential?"
How about minimally "productive," or "useful?"
I'll take "Undesirable parasites for $500, Alex"!
That's pretty funny about CNN (although sad as well).
"In other words, little by little, the GOP will provide funding for everything... except Obamacare, which they will keep as a trump card up their sleeve until the debt ceiling negotiation comes to a head some time in the next week."
If the house would stick to this its a good strategy, but they probably don't have the balls...
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After all the acts have played out in this "Let's Pretend We're Opposed To Each Other" melodramatic production of the Vichy DC community theater, house speaker John Bhoaner (a.k.a. The Weeping Cheetoh) will be known as Lance Sackless.
Kinda like watching old guys play ping-pong.
But my monkeys are better.
I can relate...
One side is fighting against becoming a part time nation (albeit halfheartedly). Have we become so cynical and jaded that we have to reduce all the actors in this sad play to monkeys?
Not just "monkeys' but, "angry shit flinging monkeys" LOL
They may be flinging poo at each other, but we're standing between them and getting caught in the shit crossfire.
just be careful when they start bitin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntlS9RcqS5E
Shut it down and KEEP IT DOWN, the longer it goes the less they spend. We the People Win, the parasites lose. What difference does it make to the vast majority? They will just move a little more into the underground economy? It's the ones with money that'll hurt, perhaps some here. But for the rest of us "living just above the welfare state" - WHO FUCKIN’ CARES!
I got NEWS for ya; this is as close as we'll get to wining…
...what a bunch of whinny apathetic parasites we have become. Where’s the fuckin’ backbone?
Let me keep this SIMPLE:
1. GET A FORM, GO TO A NOTARY – RUN FOR PRECEINCT DELEGATE
2. VOTE FOR YOURSELF
3. SERVE 2 YEARS (24 MEETINGS)
4. OCCUPYTHEPARTIES
Political parties are private associations; the membership is made up of precinct delegates and the professional parasites (the political class – you know the ruling elite). The delegates vote in the leadership. Hell, in Michigan we pay for these damn private associations to hold their primary elections at a public polling place! Democrat and Republican associations are in violation of Michigan law since Michigan Public Act 101 of 1907 (…file a certificate on a form furnished by the county clerk…), 106 years of fines is $2650 each, - lol - what a joke - the law is a JOKE! - The process is a JOKE! And the jokes on YOU! You pay while they play - GOVERNMENT GIVEAWAY - or should I say SHUTDOWN! Disgusting evil fuckin parasites……
HEY MAN, COME JOIN THE PARTY -
OCCUPYTHEPARTIES & FTG
Pretty transparent plan: underestimates the intelligence of the enemy. Will fail.
exactly, this is Chicago
reps are cornered and cannot win
if they cave they lose, if they fight they lose
but there is a remote chance that if they fight they may score a lucky punch
but they won't so they'll cave
You miss the real point entirely, Red and Blue team with both do just as they're told by their banker bosses.
So honest question - what do the Repub want in the debt ceiling debate? Both sides are willing to raise it indefinitely. Any "cuts" will be imaginary and they know that.
Republicans want to kill Obamacare, increase defense spending, and then attack Iran.
The: Any "cuts" will be imaginary and they know that.
It's Kabuki for the semi-psychotic dumbasses with brains that believe Red or Blue Team political bullshit.
The Teams are proving to their respective dumbasses that there ARE differences between the two Teams.
The administration ought to be shitting their collective pants.
It's a genious idea. Pass spending ( since it's the house's job ) for the departments they want to fund. If or when the dems push back, they have all the political leverage they need to drag them through the muck.
I'm not sure it will work but, I like the idea.
All you people blaming the republicans....remember the mocking that Gingrich received for his contract with America? You remember the federal surplus within 2 years after that? Don't believe everything you read in the democrat propaganda arm or as it is better know as the MSM!
What fucking surplus ? Go take a look at the national debt numbers for those years...no surplus.
But better than Bush and OBummer for sure.
The Senate will never agree to anything that keeps funding for ObamneyCare out of the equation.
Hence, the shutdown will continue until morale and the S&P 500 improves.
until morale improves....
unless you live in a cave that's like saying : WILL NEVER HAPPEN!
We do live in a cave - a banker debt cave called prison.
The objective is not to end the shutdown. Rather position themselves so they can point fingers and then let the other side cave.
They are playing chicken and I hope they both crash and take this fucking market with them.
Touche!
LOL ...
Aww damn, and I just ran out of popcorn.
Barack, if you want to run the country like Cook County, this is what you get.
For the first time in an awful long time some of our elected reps are actually doing their job. Pinch me, I must be asleep. I've seen this movie before, chances are they will cave in the next day or so.
Actually, maybe not. Gerrymandering has locked so many seats that no one is under pressure to cave. The GOP seats are being cheered, not pressured. To some extent, same for the Dem seats.
The conventional wisdom that the GOP suffers in a shutdown is from 1997. That was a lifetime ago. It's a different world now.
The reality is that the shutdown in '95 didn't hurt the GOP. They lost a couple of purple seats, and gained two Senate seat. Of course, one could say they lost the predidential election '96, partly due to the shutdown.
Or it could be that they ran Bob Fucking Dole, yet another squishy faux conservative of the Ford-Rockefeller wing of the GOP. I respect his service in WW2 immensely...but come on.
I used to be a vendor @ town festivals selling T-shirts on the weekends. I lived in N.C. @ the time (Bob Dole country).
So along comes Bob Dole smiling and waving to the crowd and I locked eyes w/the bastard burning holes thru him and he stopped,just for a few seconds, smiling and then adverted his eyes away from me but trying to look out of the corner of same to see if I was still scowling. He knew. Damn right he knew.
What a douchebag. He looked odd. Reptilian.
Does this indicate an end to the Kiss Obama's ass parade that has been going on for the past 5 years?
Sure, if you actually believe they are acting for the benefit of their constituents. But that is like thinking elementary school children participate in lunchroom food fights for the benefit of the local grocers.
Tha Ozero speech was like an Infomercial for ACA--the community organizer meets a Jerry Lewis telethon.
+1 They even had the sad victims of the cause lined up behind Oblamer. The only thing lacking was a song about rainbows from some decrepit old corpse that was a popular singer back during the Kennedy years. I kept looking for the numbers on the tote board to roll up, but I contented myself by looking at the US debt clock, it was almost as good.
Pat Buchanan gave this plan a few days ago. Looks like the repubs decided to come up for air and see what is goin on in the outside world.
http://buchanan.org/blog/fix-bayonets-5913
Indeed, this is the way the government budgets should always be provided-dept. by dept. so that real debt reduction can actually be achieved by zeroing out unnecessary functions like the TSA, Dept of Education, Energy etc. And taking this strategy further, extend the debt ceiling on a quarterly basis-only enough ceiling to get through the next 3 months. Then the senate will have to get off their lazy collectivist asses and finally negotioate a budget with the house. The house has already passed several only to have them die in the senate. Bravo to the house. A brilliant strategy finally! The sequester is working and needs to be continued across-the-board. For proof it is working look no further than Harry Reid's attempts to get the sequester eliminated. For each $ in incrased debt authority, 1 $ in future automatic cuts across-the-board. Then we can finally get to a cash flow based government. Lower revenues lead to automatic spending cuts, just like in all responsible households.
Thanks for the source...figures.
Pat nails it.
Only in Washington could the screamingly obvious be made to look like a revelation of arcane knowledge.
This is actually brilliant.
There is a reason the founders gave the purse to the "People's House". It's nothing short of a miracle the Pubs finally figured out they have the power of the purse.
No doubt there was a lot of backroom meetings trying to avoid manning up to their responsibility.
it is rather interesting that the battle over what the Constitution actually says or does not say has been taken straight to the top of the doc in Article I.
Piecemeals=Happymeals?
Obama thought he heard Carney say '4 piece meal with wedges and slaw' and hauled ass outta there!
And all the fries you can gimmie.
I am so fucking sick of that wormy punk howdy doody cocksmoker that is Carney.
Won't see a deal until maybe Friday at earliest. Afterwards, ES at ATH again.
It won't take that long...for the ES to be at ATH again, that is.
After a deal is reached, ES will be at moar ATH, because bad is good but good is gooder.
"Won't see a deal until maybe Friday at earliest. Afterwards, ES at ATH again."
But that's the play EVERYONE is expecting. Maybe this time is different and ES will finally have a meaningful selloff?
"Citing Republican Peter King..."
Who is in the running for biggest douchebag Rhino Republicrat of the year award. Mr. "bombs away" on Syria, Mr. "to Hell with these divisive Tea Party Republicans" for not towing the RNC bait-and-switch establishment line.
He flaps his gums more than he processes coherent logical thoughts; two or three brain cells to rub together and a very greasy palm.
@ ebworthen How that worthless assclown Peter King calls himself a Republican is beyond me. He and "The Blob" Christie need to take a long walk on a short pier... Both worthless RINOS.
Sorry, but I had to downvote you for particpating in the world of divide and conquer politics.
The use of the term Republicrat is fine (as it properly casts both sides of the 'division' as one). However, "Rhino" is a no-no, as it implies there's a true alternative.
It's o.k., I know what you mean.
There are a few on both sides that are sincere, which make equivocating blowhards like Peter King that much more despicable.
I see Rhino Republicans as those who talked themselves blue in the face about "free market capitalism" then voted to bail out the TBTF banks, insurers, and corporations.
Despicable.
Cant they just let the whole thing rot?
The .gov hasn't been able to put together a budget for over 5 years. Maybe we'll get lucky and they won't be able reopen the government for 5 years.
I'd like to see that, if only for the spectre of "rugged individualist" 400-pound douche bags trying to do anything for themselves.
Would be amusing, for a while. Then, probably not amusing any moar.
See you're not thinking it thru enough....they and their little electric carts will be very useful as sandbag wall barriers when they drop.
That's quite resourceful, SheepDog-One. You're on my team when the Zombie Apocalypse hits.
That sounds like a reality show in the making:
"This week on Real American Parasites - OFF THEIR FEED! Don't miss the uncontrolled carnage in this unbelievable, drama filled, must watch episode! Tonight on CNBC."
PS - I want 2% of the front end.
I don't know. I lived in India for awhile, and know what truly poor people look like. The US isn't exempt from that. For my own part, I'd be perfectly content to have no interference from a federal government ever again.
Only if you don't count Continuing Resolultions, which are a budget. You're probably wanting to say "a new budget".
Well that's some high stakes poker. But i guess you may be right. It will be debt ceiling for obamacare play.
Seems like republicans play it till the very end. lol
What Maniacs!
And btw. please re open the FDA; a small biotech i know wants to nda their product asap. Fucking vultures!
<--- Boner does NOT beat Newt Gingrich's record* of 21 days
<--- Boner beats Newt Gingrich's record* of 21 days
* In 1995, when Gingrich (as House Speaker) had his own Budget showdown with Pres. Clinton
Boehner has already said he is retiring as Speaker next year. This puts the pressure on him at 0.
His odds are not bad.
21 days of a "federal government shut down" and the country is still here. What does that tell you?
That there is no 'guvt' it's actually just banksters running a debt slave camp?
Re: That there is no 'guvt' it's actually just banksters running a debt slave camp?
THAT is so true. Good one.
Man up. Pass all funding except Obamacare then GO THE FUCK HOME.
I don't care what they cut as long as it's not any Big-Gov scam I'm living off of.
Git yer government hands off my government motor-scooter you goddamn government morons, I'm entitled to my socialist scam!
More browbeating from the left and more scrotum tucking from the right. I have no faith in either side of the aisle.
Jay Carney, oh no!
Fuck you Carney.See how serious you are... Members in the house should say to Boehner DO IT OR YOU'RE KICKED OFF THE LEADERSHIP.
LOL, that's funny.
Wait... you mean you're serious?
ROFLMAO
I can proudly state that I don't even know what Carney sounds like, having never littered by beautiful mind with his trash-talk.
In my world, he doesn't even exist...
Will be interesting to see if they have the stamina to see this strategy through. I would be hard pressed to imagine the Democrats not voting for a clean CR for Social Security, a clean CR medicare, for Military personell etc.
I like this part - F*ck you, Carney, you wormtongue sumbeetch!.
Public's gettin' tired of the WH's refusal to negotiate...
It's not negotiation when the only option effectively removes PPACA from the table.
'just sayin.
It's not negotiation when the only option effectively preserves the consitution shredding, privacy destroying, enslavement that is the PPACA. Accurized it for you numbnuts.
The WH does not care about sniveling peasants; they have their perfect bubble world they live in.
'Piecemeal funding for us is not serious'.....YEAH we want the whole pie, no charge and no questions asked and keep em coming!
Carney is a little peter puffer!
Peter, as in the appendage?
Ok Mr. Carney, let's see your boss veto a bill to fund the parks, a bill to fund each dept one by one. Bring it on!
DO you know what's "not serious"? THIS COCKAMAMIE COMMANDER IN CHIEF! He's the Prevaricator President!
Obama sees more Straw Men than Don Quixote saw wind mill giants to fight. He's Don Quixote de la Obama, the Straw Man President!
Look at this list and look at all of the pure crap that could be cut out of the USSA that would never be missed:
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2013/09/politics/government-shutdown-impact/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
Really, we need a freaking Commission on Elections? This does not even get to the garbage that is buried in the Departments (Interior, State, USDA, etc) They need to just burn the mother down!
Posted that very link in an earlier thread this morning and had the same reaction.
Udall Foundation? What da fuckizat?
15 sub tentacles that comprise the shit sucking hydra that is the USDA?
No wonder they fear shutdowns. It's the only time the sun shines on these parasites.
Carney...you know, circus folk....nomads....smell of cabbage...small hands.
AH! It seems Carney came to read ZH and is on a downvoting spree.
Thats ok I +1d those to balance things out
This is a great idea, piece meal together your own bill. lol ... Then each time the dems vote something down they look like dicks. Genius, of course, they will still fund tons of things they probably shouldnt this way, but maybe theres a few departments they can defund in the process.
Except that it still leaves a lot of room for it being considered a hostage-taking attempt on the government - for a wider range of hostages than just PPACA.
Start with the TSA and DHS
Tea Party are idiots dressed as politicians. Deep down there is a rasist retoric tone that reminds me about Hitler, Stalin, Mao... Good luck America
You are being too obvious with that superficial, unSkoooled troll bait. Your handlers are not getting their money's worth.
Youngandhealthy is a troll trying to start political arguments on non-political articles. I suggested he end his life, but he ignored me.
You better get back to Mother Jones before they serve juice boxes and Fig Newtons.
Lol.
The home of illiterate 12 year old bloggers who got tossed from Yahoo. and OMG.
If you're looking for Hitler, Stalin, and Mao, you need only look into the Oval Office. Then look into a mirror - you voted for him. You and people like you put him and his sycophantic Democrats into power.
Not that the GOP leadership is much better, drawn as it is from the Ford-Rockefeller, Northeast Republican, old-school levers of power from the 70's and 80's. The Tea Party is from the truly conservative wing of the party. No matter what lies you say about us (rayciss, don't care about the sick, throing Granny off the cliff), we are not buckling to the ever-present smear campaign of the MSM and the so-called "progressive" radicals that have hijacked the Democrat party.
So...may you happily get bent over by your progressive overlords. This healthcare "reform" will go down in flames, as it was designed to do. It will probably either pave the way for you and your ilk to cry out for a European style single-payer system, or for people to see the consequences of government control of an industry and throw you people out into the political wilderness, exactly as it happened to progressives in the 1920's after Woodrow Wilson. Of course, it is a different country now, with dumbed down, low information types running rampant in the electorate. So...we'll see.
You prove with your own words that I am right. Good luck America
Re: or for people to see the consequences of government control of an industry and throw you people out into the political wilderness
You mean like they have for Big-Ag, Big-OldFartHealthCare, or Big-MIC?
"Da people" love socialism. That's why we've had it for 60+ years. That's why the European have it.
Who doesn't love free money? The only disagreement here is who is allowed to participate in the scams.
Git yer hands off my government motor-scooter, I'm entitled to health-care I never paid for!
The only true conservative is Ron Paul.
The only true conservative is Ron Paul.
I'm told, but can't confirm that: the only true conservative is Paul Ron.
The disagreement, for anyone who wants to think, is over a $17 trillion debt supported by an entitlement driven deficit and a large entitlement is being added. This problem causes interest payment of $850 billion per year at 5% normal interest rate. (Note: We could have another discussion about the crimminal Fed policy...stealing from poor to pay the rich.) Anyone who wants this once bountiful nation to continue should be concerned.
When you have a disagreement, you can talk & negotiate or you can go to war or you can give up your principles. For those without principles, calling the other side names is their only way they can fight and this only risks war.
Approximately 75% of the total US budget is spent on Defense, Pensions and Health care and all of them with approx. equal share. Where to cut? and when clear on it make it clear for the voters .
Re: give up your principles
A show of hands of how many people "with principles" are living real good off of Big-Ag, Big-MIC, Big-Road, Big-Water, Big-Airport, Big-Energy, Big-Ed, Big-House, Big-Fin, Big-OldFart, Big-OldFartHealthcare, Big-AntiDrug, & Big-PoliceState?
Principles are for the children. The adults run by duplicity.
Well, if you really are "young and healthy" you'll want to simply pay the O-care penalty of $95, which is what I plan to do. If enough heathy people see through this huge government sponsored insurance scam, that alone will bring it crashing down. So-called Health care has little or no correlation to good health whick mostly treats symptoms with drugs. Its all proper genetics, sanitation, exercise and diet-with the most imporant being exercise.
Re: Its all proper genetics, sanitation, exercise and diet-with the most imporant being exercise.
Unless the Plutonium Truck happens to make a wrong turn down your street one night and you get cancer.
(Plutonium Truck? What Plutonium Truck?)
I think exercise is the least important of your list. A moderate amount of exercise, like walking your dog a mile a day, is all your body needs. Anything in excess of that will only marginally improve health.
The entire Republican Party is now the Tea Party?
C- you can do better
Okay, Einstein, provide examples of how Stalin and Mao were racist....
Deep down there is a big statist dick in your throat.
Newt Gingrich, perhaps the foremost expert in the country on what government shutdowns are and what they accomplish, this week praised the Republican strategy as making it “more and more expensive” for the Democrats in the Senate to continue refusing to negotiate on Obamacare.
In spite of a Huffington Post article by Farah Mohamed and Amanda Terkel which turned Gingrich’s comments around 360 degrees by suggesting erroneously that he was criticizing the Republican approach and that the Republicans suffered considerably from the 1995 shutdown, the truth in fact is that the Republicans made gains in the next election in both the House and the Senate and Clinton was forced to negotiate and pass significant welfare reform.
Yes, Gingrich personally suffered because of media demonization, but to give the man his due he knows the details of a shutdown and what they mean.
One of his suggestions for Republican strategy on Monday’s Sean Hannity radio show they are actually beginning to initiate: namely, to begin sending to the Senate funding bills for different sections of the government which the Senate is forced to either adopt or turn down (try voting against opening the Statue of Liberty).
ABC News, following the monopoly-media pattern of past government shutdowns, actually aired a woman’s comments that she had waited her entire life to climb to the top of the Statue of Liberty and, now, she will never ever again have that chance because... it is closed. By the way, I thought on a recent trip I would like to climb to the top but, on that day, it was closed. ABC wasn't around, however.
Re; ABC wasn't around, however.
If an event happens, but the news isn't around to cover it, did it really exist?
I can see the Republicans sticking to this and seeing it through. They will make every opportunity to fund everything, bar obamacare... their republic friends in the news will push the message that it is Obama that is halting funding for SPECIFIC services.
Think about it: "Obama Vetoes measure to fund Veterans"
He is fucked.
... and rightly so, because contrary to the bullshit spewed, all I can see is the republicans making every opportunity to maintain funding, bar one (as yet not operating) service.
They might be the ones stopping one service, but it was Obama that pushed the envelope and stopped it all.
I up-voted you, but I seriously doubt that Harry Reid lets anything get to the president's desk. The political heat would have to get turned up to 11 to make him cave and muster enough Democratic votes to pass the Republican measure. (There are votes he can muster for this, btw. There are several vulnerable Democratic senators up for re-election in 2014, and a chance to "buck their party" for show-and-tell back in their home states is a chance that they would each embrace enthusiastically.)
LOL - what a joke this is and continues to become. Republicans are hell bent to tear this country apart. I'll never vote for another one in any election. NEVER!
This is a duly enacted law that has been signed by the President. Circumventing the democractic process this way is fascist.
Duly enacted law? So you are comfortable with the Supreme Court writing our laws?
I suggest you get busy rigging the '14 elections so your boys can fund whatever they want.
Until then remeber what your cocksucker in cheif once said. "Elections have consequences" and right now the R's hold the purse strings for the country.
And in the famous word of Eric Cartman. "Suck my Balls".
If someone had asked me to write a post with the term "SUCK MY BALLS" in it, I don't know if I would have come up with such a great way to phrase it. Thumb up! Oh, wait, now I just did write a post with the phrase in it. In return for your fine post, I'd like to propose a list of people who should be forced suck balls for all eternity:
1) Obama (Unless all the gay rumors are correct. Then, he's still got Moose-shell.
2) Harry Reid (Although he seems like a butt stabber as well - creepy old fuck.)
3) Little Chucky Schumer
4) Chuck Schumer (not a mistake. He deserves a double testicle sandwich).
5) Nancy "Ya got to vote first" Pelosi - I vote she gargles testicles for the next decade
6) Hillary Clinton - She deserves to simply receive the treatment our American patriots received in Benghazi - maybe throw her ass in a burning house and have all fire departments surround the house but not turn on the water? No, she deserves worse.
7) Douchy Durbin
8) Dianne Goodman Berman Feinstein a/k/a Senator Feinstein from the great state of California. Yup, that's her real name.
9) John Kerry - He's looking more and more like a friend of Elmo's every day. I thought the guy who made the Muppets was dead. Who made Kerry?
10) Joe Fucking Biden (gets picked up on his front lawn at the US Naval Observatory by helicopter, flown to Delaware, then a whole fleet of escort vehicles surround him on his trips home. Wouldn't it be just about as quick to fucking drive the whole way? What the fuck? It's less than a 2 hour drive.)
11) Just to be fair here - McCain (despite his patriot service during the Vietnam Ware - he's fucking nuts now.), McConnell, Boehner and Cantor (just because I want to bitch smack that smug look off his fucking face every time he smirks on TV - prick/whore.)
OK, that's the top 1% of people I'd like to see choked with a mouthful of balls. Oh, wait, that whore from Florida - head of the DNC - DEBRA WASSERMAN SCHULTZ - SHE SHOULD EAT A BAG OF DICKS. And, she ain't from Florida, unfortunately, she hails from NYC. She'd just have competition from other scummier dems up here (i.e. Schumer, Spitzer, Carlos Danger. (Yes, reserve a nut sack for him).
Thanks for caring.
So you think Oblamo's bribery and ball twisting and outright lies are considered the 'Democratic Process'?
"You have to pass it to see what's in it."
Re: So you think Oblamo's bribery and ball twisting and outright lies are considered the 'Democratic Process'?
Yes, Unless you're a child who still believes in "How a Bill becomes a Law" from 6th grade.
Politics is about taking huge amounts of loot from dumbasses and giving it to other people. Assholes and sociopaths do this kinda stuff. That's why politicians are assholes and sociopaths.
I'll never vote for another one in any election
You're full of shit, Psquared. You have never voted for a Republican, so you can't vote for "another one"
Uneducated dipshit this IS the democratic process. All funding must originate with the House and the duly elected members of the House have determined that they don't want to fund this POS unconstitutional law that was ramed through by bribery.
Shut down all non-essential government -- FOREVER!
The very nature of something NON-essential is that we don't NEED it! Shut it down!
Six months from now, Americans will realize that they're better off WITHOUT all that non-essential government.
Re: Shut down all non-essential government
But, YOUR non-essestial is MY wonderful crony-socialist scam. That's the problem, everybody loves the crony-socialism they are getting rich off of.
How many people are living real well screwing Big-Ag, Big-MIC, Big-Road, Big-Water, Big-Airport, Big-Energy, Big-Ed, Big-House, Big-Fin, Big-OldFart, Big-OldFartHealthcare, Big-AntiDrug, & Big-PoliceState?
Git yer hands off my Big-OldFart motor-scooter, I'm ENTITLED to my Big-OldFart socialist scam!
Be nice to see 'Roid Reid refuse to allow a vote on funding Veterans benefits... Obunga would turn so pale he would start to look like Hillary.
Fucking government. No money to keep shit open but plenty of money to put up barriers and guard this shit.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101077428
I am so pissed. I have been to DC a few times and I never realized the fucking mall can be closed. It is a fucking open public space.
Imagine what would have happened 300 years ago if some gov fuck, red coat came over to you and told you to get your cows off of Boston Common cause it is closed.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/10/01/veterans-break-past-world-war-ii-memorial-barricade/?hpt=hp_t1
When things get serious you have to lie
"... House Republicans plan to pass three funding bills today to reopen Federal Parks, veteran programs and fund for the District of Columbia. In other words, little by little, the GOP will provide funding for everything... except Obamacare..."
SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN, BOYS.
Re: SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN, BOYS.
Until they get to the part where the Blue Team votes down funding for the scams that matter to the top 20%. Those of us who are getting rich off of Big-Ag, Big-MIC, Big-Road, Big-Water, Big-Airport, Big-Energy, Big-Ed, Big-House, Big-Fin, Big-OldFart, Big-OldFartHealthcare, Big-AntiDrug, & Big-PoliceState.
Who cares about the small crap, it's the big Big's that won't get funded without Obamacare. The top 20% need the existing scams to live well. The Blue Team knows this. They know the Red Team knows this.
Lets cut Amtrak and NPR and we'll balance the budget, right?
With the amount of free loaders the government has, I would recommend the government start subcontracting their workers to private enterprises.
At least they can start being a little productive.
I like it. Let's see John McShame vote against vets! This is the kind of nasty hardball tricks we saw when Tip O'Neill would battle Ronald Reagan. Much better than the usual recent Republican House rollover. Say what they will at the White House, but let's see if the Dems hold the line on these. I think they won't be able to do it for every vote.
There is a lesson here about not being able to run up the credit card and actually having to prioritize spending and budgeting while only spending what you take in monetary wise in this whole mess but this lesson will be lost on the masses still thinking this is some L vs R or R vs D problem when it comes to this issue.. Cross your fingers and hope this goes on for an extended period of time. It will be a teachable moment to show just how broke the government really is and how much it overspends what it doesn't have by analyzing what is spent and how it is allocated.
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For those who asked why Obama and his thugs weren't dragged before the Magistrate for deferring employer mandate until 2015 (after the 2014 elections natch),
Judicial Watch has just filed a suit in US District Court for Southern District of Florida petitioning the Court to prevent the government from delaying this mandate.
Lookie here for the paperwork filed today here: http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Obamacare-Lawsui...
Looks like there's a tiny leak in the dike, boys. I never could figure out why some Republican didn't file a lawsut sooner.
Based on market action today, I guess that means Dow 17,000 by the end of the week