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Government Shutdown Silver Lining - Good For Personal Privacy
The nation's top intelligence officer, James Clapper, is worried:
- *CLAPPER: SHUTDOWN 'SERIOUSLY DAMAGES' U.S. NATIONAL SECURITY
and so is Senator Grassley:
- *GRASSLEY `CONCERNED' 70% US GOVT INTELLIGENCE STAFF FURLOUGHED
But - for those who care about personal privacy rights, there is a silver lining:
- *US GOVT SHUTDOWN HAS HIT NSA 'VERY HARD', AGENCY DIRECTOR SAYS
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Perfect time for a "False Flag" event.
Go Silver!
Whatever.......the NSA is still operating in over-drive mode. I don't believe for a second the NSA has been affected one bit by the so-called shutdown.
Yea WOHOOO Government shutdown!! No more schools, hospitals or national security! I can't wait for America to become Somalia so we can have our libertarian paradise. Libertiarians 2016!!
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Y U No Like Somalia? Rayciss?
Hes just trying to make it look like this is endangering the country so he can steal moar liberties. This is just a clap trap
Your odds are better at getting the lone hit on the $500 Million Power Ball than being hurt by a terrorist.
It is true. The shutdown has hit the NSA very hard. The NSA dudes like to spend their lunch breaks at the national parks.
I expect vigorous participation by MDB here at ZH now that he's been furloughed.
TV News still open. Did they get an exception?
How do you people expect me to pay for my vacation?
Live vicariously through any one of BILLIONS you are stalking. Hell, just stalk Hugh Hefner.
Hit the NSA very hard? How long has the shutdown been on now?
The only way the NSA would be hit hard is if someone shut off the power to the Utah storage facility and they lost the data. I know, I know, that's not how it's stored but let me dream.
According to this chart, the DHS and other intelligence services are making out just fine compared to other agencies. 14% furloughed? Those were probably just the janitorial and landscaping services.
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2013...
My kid went to school today. Hospital's still open too. There isn't anything .fedgov does that I really can't live without.
Ran into a website yesterday that had a screen saying basically, Sorry goverment is shut down you can't get to the webpage you want. That's hilarious! The page is already coded. They had to pay someone to code that page and change the link. Are you kidding me?! Other than that, business as usual, except I feel fewer eyes trying to look up my skirt.
Beam Me Up Scotty,
but 800,000 moochers need your tax $ to fund their lavish lifestyle...plus pensions...and benefits. Please keep working.
That website's presence shows that the NSA's AUTOMATED hoovering will not pause.
Don't fool yourself. This faux shutdown doesn't mitigate the NSA's illegal, unconstitutional, indefensible actions one bit, because nobody WAS looking up your skirt. That won't happen until some apparatchik wants to fuck with you.
At that point they'll look at every, single fucking byte of your entire digital life--and that of all of your associates--looking for ways to get you.
Combining 20/20 hindsight with the so-called Patriot Act, NDAA, and the government's ability to indict a ham sandwich means your ass will then be in court if you're lucky. If you're not, then "our" government here in the land of the free will render your ass into some secret prison. Forever.
USA! USA! USA!
I logged in to post pretty much the same thing, so plus +100 for your thoughts and for saving me from having to type them.
wow.
Sarcastic sarcasm. Taking it to the next level, eh MDB?
It's like Inception up in here...don't know what is real and what isn't.
MDB, the US already is Somalia. Doesn't the biggest gang rule over the rest here? Perhaps the only difference between the US and Somalia is that the US is more subtle about its violence upon its own tax slaves which many call "citizens." ;-)
For the first time in a long long time, I am proud of the work my representatives are doing in Washington. I hope they stand their ground. The Tea Party's time has come, productive people of the US can rejoice at their newfound voice in Washington.
Let's not get carried away. You may like the outcome but this is all the same politics as usual.
I particularly am keeping an eye on Ron DeSantis-----rep from NE Fl ---seems to be going in the correct direction, and he's an ivy leager no less. Wonders never cease.
Quit being such a tool, for crying out loud.
They aren't YOUR representatives, nor will they ever be, regardless of the amount of Hopium you mainline.
I want to know where he get's his hopium, since they raided Silk Road I will have difficulty getting mine....
;)
"For the first time in a long long time, I am proud of the work my representatives are doing in Washington. I hope they stand their ground. The Tea Party's time has come, productive people of the US can rejoice at their newfound voice in Washington."
Sarcasm perhaps? There is no way this is going to fix anything, as they are only fighting over ObamaCare. Neither party is going to address the major long problems. We are still on the same track heading for a collapse.
In the end the GOP will cave in as they did in the past. The GOP is playing into the DNC, by giving the DNC yet another excuse why the economy isn't recovering. The DNC will abuse the shutdown to gain seats during the next midterm elections. The DNC is doing everything it can to promote a shutdown. They want the GOP to shut it down, so they can use it against them.
The smart move for the GOP is to let Obamacare fail and then blame it on the DNC so they can gain control of the Senate and perhaps the WH in 2016. As it stands its very likely that the DNC will regain it's super majority during the next mid-term election.
No they are not "standing their ground" they are merely producing Kubuki theatre to fool dupes like you. The TP reps are only angry about the way the loot is being distributed NOT that the loot is being spent. I don't buy it. Plus most of them are still big fans of the military-industrial-police state-prison complex, they just don't like whose in charge of it. Also many of them are hardcore Christian Zionists - more wars for Israel! (as long as one of there team is running it).
Ron Paul was one of the very few sources of genuine opposition and he is no longer there. The rest are putting on the exact show their masters want them to. And their masters do not include you.
Unless they shut the power off, the whole damn thing is still gathering information. Just because no one is sitting in the captains chair on the USS Enterprise bridge mockup, doesn't mean skynet isn't still fully operational. Soon we will all see the power of this fully operational Death Star.
I'd up arrow you, but CRAP that's scary!
I'm still going into the office and sitting in the chair; dedication to a cause is something the younger generations just don't get.
accidental double post.
What The Feck Is This CLLAPER, Who Elected Him ???
After .gov rapes you for years, you eventually get the Clap.
Clap on, Clap off, Clap on clap off, THE CLAPPER
Government Clap, now with more drug resistance!
Here's what I know. If he were standing on the gallows with a rope around his neck, I would pull the lever. Along with a whole bunch of other beltway insiders.
Clapper should be in jail for lying to congress... then again most of congress should be in jail for lying, fraud and treason against Americans and the people of the world. Eric Holder anyone?
Him too.
A real journalist would follow up every Clapper answer with "Sir, is that the least untruthful answer?"
Perfect time for Canada and Mexico to invade!
What for? 300.000.000 maxed out credit cards?
My plan all along has been for New York to secede, annex Quebec province (they don't really like the rest of Canada anyway, and form the new nation of New Quebec. No more apples or lumber for anyone without high tariffs.
Of course, I would probably give the US lower Manhattan, if they want it.
This could be my moment!
Mexico has been invading, that's part of the reason why this nation is so broke.
don't hate the player, hate the game.
You are mean. America is indispensable. As indispensable as the black knight invincible. The world holds its breath. US. Must. Get. Up. Fight. Terrism. Bring. Democracy.
(There are ~ 100.000 Stasi clerks the US taxpayer maintains. If 90% of them take a day or two off, that leaves still 10.000 of these hungy ghosts to spy on us, protect Wall Street and fabricate Gas Attack Vids)
Yeah, exactly.
"A terrorist attack can happen any time. Any time......any time......I said any time, that's the signal DAMMIT!"
Drones are furloughed, right?
;(
If they ever shut Banzai down, we really are doomed.
I forgot and tried to use NASA's space station tracker last night.
LOL
Major Tom to Ground Control...
APOD is my homepage where I get images to update my desktop background. It's down. Ridiculous since there are so many volunteers that would keep this site going--in fact most of the contributors and editors are not on NASAs payroll.
Luckily the private sector is one step ahead.
Thank you Wayback machine!
The private bank that literally sits in the middle of DC is still open too.
Was just thinking the same thing, expect something dire now that the U.S. supposedly has it's knickers about it's ankles. Without the trillion dollar spying apperatus sifting through our personal lives a mythical terrorist in Oman is suddenly about to jump from the pages of a CIA brief.
Go get a REAL job you NSA jerkoffs!
It hasn't stopped the pre crime center the NSA just brought online in the Utah desert... :(
false flag? obamacare is doing enough damage to sink our battleship.
"Our" battleship was sunk on November 22, 1963.
FUCK YOU NSA!
This should be good for pressure cooker sales.
Yes, I purchased a pressure cooker and used it last evening to cook a bald eagle. It came out very tender, but was a little gamier than wild duck -- I had to use plenty of pepper and garlic to get past the taste.
We're eating well during the shut-down -- a few more meals like this, and I'll need to sign-up for that free health care that Obama is giving away.
You're just lucky that 94% of the Department of the Interior has been furloughed, or your eagle-eating ass would be so busted. ;) As it is, the NSA has saved your eagle-cooking post, and will forward it to the relevant kneecap-busters as soon as this sham of a shutdown has played out the script and they all come back to work with all their back pay.
I went outside and breathed the fresh morning air this morning. And, fuck you NSA. You all can go back to farting up your mom's couch now.
Well I have a slight hope that this little skit will actually bring more people to loathe the government. Peel back the layers of the onion so to speak.
Been monitoring the Cape Hatteras boards and people are pissed.
The government closed the least costly functions and the ones that would inflict the most amount of pain on regular folks.
They shut down the Caper Hatteras National Seashore and chained all the beach access points and the locals are going nuts. Right in the middle of prime Drum time to boot.
Let's hope that they can keep their anger directed where it deserves to be, at the government. Not the R's, not the D's, but the Leviathian government.
A government that shuts down access to "our" lands when it feels that we are not behaving how it wants us to.
pods
Long bolt cutters and battery powered circular saws?
Oh, hang on. They'll shut down the beach but they can still afford the beach police ...
Ain't that a beach?!!
The government has decided long ago, and gotten away with it, that those aren't "our" lands. Try driving on the "public right-of-way" without a license from the government to do so. If it really was "our" land and right-of-way, there would be no need for a "license" to use it.
no worries, I am sure that all the tech's behind the NSA are more than happy to work for free .. ya know .. for dedication, service, and love to the country ... and stuff ...
So the NSA is Shutstained?
The only time in a long time when the rest of the world can feel safer again for a while from US tyranny
Shut er down http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6tKWtPSGLI
I think they're lying. What about this contradiction?
http://www.blacklistednews.com/From_NSA_Spying_and_VIPR_Sweeps_to_Domest...
Bullshit! I'll bet they have 'Skynet' turned up full blast in hopes that the bad guys believe that "lying to Congress" sack of shit Clapper!
So the NSA staff and the war on terror is not "essential"...one wonders why we spend so much money on them.
The false flag will take place during the shutdown.
Good. Stay closed.
What if they gave an empire and nobody came?
http://www.fakenation.info/please/government-shutdown-not-with-a-bang-but-with-a-whimper
Are you sure Clapper is not lying? I guess it doesn't really matter.
He would never lie. Unless it's to Congress.
He doesn't lie to congress, he just speaks a version of English were words don't mean what you think they mean. I guess NSA is opposite world.
Liar Liar...Pants on fire!
No worries. GOOG and AAPL are storing everything for later perusal.
Come on, we all know the funding for surveillance is off-book. The shutdown does nothing, except close the services the serfs use, like Head Start and the National Park Service.
Lying all the way. Headline should be: "Clapper Lies About Affect of Shut Down; Go Ahead and Try to Prove He's Honest"
Zero credibility except by [frequent and consistent] disinterested third party reportage.
This government shutdown gets more "Constitutional" by the minute. I love it.
If i were sitting in that fuckin' congress, I'd refuse to vote for anything until they SHUT THAT FUCKIN BILLION DOLLAR DATA CENTER DOWN.......
I'm callin BS on this. Total BS. To even suggest this is true is silly.
This is a blatant lie to get even moar of a slush fund for this pervert's budget:
Explain to me how this is a "bad thing"?
Complete farce.
Arrest that bastard for treason. Try him and if found guilty, hang him from the Ft. Mead flag pole.
*US GOVT SHUTDOWN HAS HIT NSA 'VERY HARD', AGENCY DIRECTOR SAYS
what a bunch of horseshit...
Attacks on our corporate network have dropped significantly since the 1st.
Hmm...
It doesn't matter, they are still storing it all for later.
robots dont get furloughed
Got to shut down those national parks. Plenty of money though for war and giving billions of dollars in aid to countries that hate us.
The U.S just keeps sliding into the shitpile at the hands of our fine leaders. No help for the folks at home. Plenty of money for the banks.
The entire mess that is our government needs to stay shutdown forever.
The NSA is to the shutdown as the Terminator is to an off switch - it will never stop
...unless you manage to get it/them into a hydrolic press.
Good news just keep on coming. Keep it all shut down.
The NSA is still listening to everyone except the Palestinians who are treated like caged animals, the Iranians who have never in modern times attacked western soil, the Libyans, the Iraqis, the Afghans and of course their own people who are sick of war and what it has done to their nation, their international standing and their future.
Porn sites have lost 70% of traffic.
ROFL - perhaps Obama will bail them out as well !?
LOL. Does that mean that the workplace provides the best place for watching porn or does it mean that the people who have been furloughed have other things to worry about?
They can't use their personal computers because their children/significant other will find them out....
I'm skerd. Really skerd.
Clapper is a fucking liar. Not wittingly.
Wittingly definition 1. Aware or conscious of something.2. Done intentionally or with premeditation; deliberate
Start at 2:30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-xEg3A-0t4
I want to assure Penishead Clapper and Senator Grassy Knoll that my neighborhood is very safe and there's no need for drones or electronic surveillance. I am keeping a close eye on those skateboarders down the street.
Oh, damn, one of them just reached for a cell phone. Call in a drone attack, Roger, Bingo, Attaboy!
Hopefully it the 70% that is the dead weight that were furloughed. Since 9/11 way too many people have been hired on for gov spots in the intelligence agencies.
Maybe some real analysis will get done... "Say, why does Qatar have so much vested interest and funding in the Syrian rebels?" Miracles can happen...
Some friends of mine work for DIA. They were horrified to find out they were deemed "non critical"... lol Hate to break it to them, but I knew that years ago... ;-)
How about furloughing some of those 68,000 troops stationed in Germany or the 48,000 stationed in Japan. They can't all be doing esential work!
With the government shut down, I feel cleaner and more free. The last time I felt this way was October 1963.....
He's not talking about that NSA. He's talking about National Socialists of America, the other NSA. Sheesh!
Same bunch, Constitutional loving Americans would never betray their countrymen as they do. When they start the swinging from the lamposts you fucks should remember that much.
How about this, Clapper. The U.S. government, more than anything else, threatens national securithy.
This is entirely true. I mean, really, who authorized giving Biden the top-secret file he was photographed with yesterday? I betcha he read it in front of the reporter, too, who was reading over his shoulder without Uncle Joe's knowledge.
James Woods said it best. "Obama shouldn't mention non-essential personel anymore, or else they might send him home as well"
Nope....your personal privacy is still fooooked.
Software never sleeps.
It just keeps going.
It is what it does.
It does not stop.
I don't believe it. I assume they made sure that the money keeps on flowing. Anything can also happen now so they can say "you see, you need us because we didn't see it coming cause you closed us down".
I'll believe when the beast is dead, cremated and the ashes shot into deep space.
That is a military strategy known as a “false Flag Event. Would not put it past these douche bags.
They are just leaving all the recorders running why they are out.. The Metadata will be there when they return.
Next time you watch Matthrew Rhys in The Americans start to wonder how confused the Russians really were/are by the way Americans accept Soviet-style government in the USA but resent it elsewhere