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Obama Issues Statement, "Not Going To Negotiate" After All

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Earlier, on CNBC, Obama said he is "prepared to negotiate." As it turns out, he may have been confused about the meaning of the bolded word because less than four hours later, the White House issued a statement in which "The President made clear to the Leaders that he is not going to negotiate over the need for Congress to act to reopen the government."

THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
October 2, 2013

 

Readout of the President’s Meeting with Congressional Leadership

 

Tonight, the President hosted a meeting with the members of the Congressional Leadership that lasted for over an hour. The President made clear to the Leaders that he is not going to negotiate over the need for Congress to act to reopen the government or to raise the debt limit to pay the bills Congress has already incurred. The President reinforced his view that the House should put the clean government funding bill that has been passed by the Senate up for a vote – a bill that would pass a majority of the House with bipartisan support. The House could act today to reopen the government and stop the harm this shutdown is causing to the economy and families across the country. The President remains hopeful that common sense will prevail, and that Congress will not only do its job to reopen the government, but also act to pay the bills it has racked up and spare the nation from a devastating default. The President is glad that the Leaders were able to engage in this useful discussion this evening.

And since we are discussing Obama's linguistic capacity, perhaps another word he may wnat to loo up is "prevent. As in the following:

President Barack Obama said on Wednesday his selection of a nominee to head the Federal Reserve when Chairman Ben Bernanke's term ends in January will prevent asset bubbles from forming but will also try to lower a high jobless rate. "They're going to be making sure that they keep an eye on inflation, that they're not encouraging some of the bubbles that we've seen in our economy that have resulted in busts," Obama said in an interview on CNBC. "But they're also going to stay focused on the fact that our unemployment rate is still too high."

It's been a long day, but we are fairly confident not even the world's greatest thesaurus lists "actively promotes and carefully cultivates" as a synonym to "prevent."

 

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Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:20 | 4016466 FieldingMellish
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...and with that gold getting hit to make sure the $ does not tank.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:24 | 4016483 The Shootist
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Just Blankfein and Dimon doing God's work. Or was that Satan's work?

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:29 | 4016515 dryam
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"Let me be clear, I have no idea what the hell I'm doing as President.  I've been completely clueness since day one, but you have to hand it to me I can give one hell of a speech whith that teleprompter in front of me.  I will not be taking any questions.  I have a tee time, and besides if I have to answer a question without a scripted answer I'm going to say something that makes no sense whatsoever."

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:30 | 4016526 NotApplicable
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I gotta say, "wnat to loo up" about sums it up.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:37 | 4016558 Jack's Digestib...
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I think ZH had to furlough some of their editors.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 21:03 | 4016672 monad
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ZH had editors?

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 22:12 | 4016944 TwoShortPlanks
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Obama Issues Statement, "Ni Hao Ma?"

Gold, US sovereign coup d'état, and ‘Trading Places’

http://twoshortplanksunplugged.blogspot.com.au/2013/10/gold-us-sovereign-coup-detat-and.html

 

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 22:23 | 4016990 Pool Shark
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"Negotiate."

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

 

Thu, 10/03/2013 - 00:00 | 4017117 old naughty
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Of course an exasperated "state-ment" has to be issued...

after meetings with bankers and congress leaders...

it's potus-call, we should expect that (and read between the lines), no?

 

 

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 22:37 | 4016955 Pegasus Muse
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Manning pretty much nails it.

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VIDEO: OMG Pastor Manning gives it to Obama like it is; I can't believe what he says at the end; I spit my coffee out.

http://youtu.be/aoZjXDP7LHs

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And in case you missed it: 

Neil Cavuto Destroys Obama Over Blatant ObamaCare Lies  (3 min)

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 22:34 | 4017048 Radical Marijuana
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Obama ONLY could say: "you have to hand it to me I can give one hell of a speech whith that teleprompter in front of me." Other than President Obama being an excellent professional liar, I cannot see any other qualifications that he has to be President.

Of course, it is relatively easy to be a professional liar in the USA, since the mass media cooperate fully with promoting the overall frame of reference in which a President reads lies off a teleprompter, while the school systems have also succeeded in making sure that it is very difficult for many Americans to think critically, which explains the astonishing fact that "the president's total job approval for September inched up a point from August to 48%."

ONE OF THE MOST TERRIFYING THINGS IN AMERICA ARE PUBLIC OPINION POLLS, SINCE THEY CONFIRM THE STRANGLE HOLD THAT THE MASS MEDIA AND EDUCATION SYSTEM HAVE OVER THE MINDS OF MOST AMERICANS, WHICH ARE WHAT WAS NECESSARY TO MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR A PRESIDENT TO BE NOTHING BUT A PROFESSIONAL LIAR!

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 21:04 | 4016669 monad
Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:24 | 4016484 zorba THE GREEK
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2...4...6...8....We ain't gonna negrociate.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:23 | 4016485 knukles
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The Asyrian method of negotiating.
Nobody has a fucking clue what's being talked about.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:26 | 4016494 Newsboy
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This could be the controlled collapse that lets the players do what they need to do to "save" us. 

Remember how Hanky Panky Paulson saved us?

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:34 | 4016543 NotApplicable
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Can't be anything but, given collapse is a given at this point.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:43 | 4016583 Cdad
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Indeed...and since this post is about a statement being issued that is completely contrary to the statement given during the televised interview just three hours prior...well...it seems pretty intentional, if you ask me.

Save us Ben Bernanke...you're our only hope!

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 22:29 | 4017018 daveO
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BHO strayed off teleprompter, again.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:45 | 4016608 johngaltfla
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TRANSLATION:

 

Short the field.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:23 | 4016475 Timmay
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He WILL negotiate. He will have no choice if the Republicans play this the right way. They can pass spending on bills that both sides agree on first. Then have a debate on what they disagree on and then ultimately compromise on those issues.

If it actually works this way the founding fathers were geniuses for setting the system this way.

 

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:45 | 4016592 JLee2027
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No... He's never going to negotiate. I've seen this before...they just self-destruct, it's 100% their way and nothing else.

The House of Representatives has to find the courage to take down the entire system. 

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:53 | 4016635 Cdad
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All those Tea Party folk in The House...they'd better find their best orator and grant him their collective time.  And he had best talk the talk and walk the walk of the folk whom sent him there.  This IS the very issue on which the Tea Party was born, that of spending. And if J. Beohner wants anything but another humiliating defeat [and a collapsing nation], he had best stand beside that fellow...and chime in.

But of course...reality being one thing, and DC yet another, I'm not holding my breath on the matter.  We are already imploding economically and fiscally anyway, and nothing any of them say or do will stop it at this point.

'Cause we way are down the cosmic bunny hole, and the damn thing is going supernova.  

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 21:59 | 4016891 strannick
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Will we be safe from the SuperNova in the cosmic bunny hole?

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 23:09 | 4017162 Cdad
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Ummm....no.  Sorry....supernovas are pretty bad to be around...case you didn't know.  And being down the criminal syndicate Wall Street bunny hole is pretty poor protection.

But maybe Ben Bernanke is much more powerful than I know?  

As many before me have said...we are all screwed in this.  Thanks Ben.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:25 | 4016480 LetThemEatRand
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"President Barack Obama said on Wednesday his selection of a nominee to head the Federal Reserve when Chairman Ben Bernanke's term ends in January will prevent asset bubbles from forming but will also try to lower a high jobless rate." What a joke.  The Fed's entire function in life is to create bubbles and enrich bankers.  Everything else they supposedly do is pure propaganda and utter fiction.  If you want to stop blowing bubbles and focus on employment then you disolve the Fed.  And I'm sure the meeting with the bankers today who bought special access to the President has nothing to do with his position in these matters.
Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:52 | 4016626 knukles
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Gameplan

OB:  Jamie, what can I do to help get this all fixed?
JD:   Well, there's a matter of $11B I've been talking about with AG Holder
OB:  Gone.
OB:  Lloyd, what can I do to help get this economy moving again?
LB:   Well sir, there's a matter of this nonsense about tapering monetary policy that would crimp the after market =making abilities with all your government bond traders and possibly drive rates up higher.
OB:  Done, we'll keep buying bonds.  BTYW fellas, OTR, it will be Ms Yellen.
LB:  Why sir, not Bill Dudley?.
OB:  Lemme think about that one for a moment.  I'll get back to ya'  Mr Lew, get me Larry Summers on the line for a quickie.
OB  Mr Lew, what do you think?
JL:  I'd listen to these men very carefully, Sir.
OB: Good Idea, Jack.  That's advise I can rely upon

And so went the "Advise and Consent" meetings with the Man, today.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:23 | 4016481 goldenbuddha454
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This is the last red line those evil Republicans, I mean Syrians, I mean NRA members, I mean, Tea Party Members will cross.  What crisis were we talking about again?

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:25 | 4016498 The Shootist
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Those Tea Party types be waging a Jihad on the benevolent father that is the Gubbermint.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:24 | 4016482 onewayticket2
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He was for it before he was against it.   sounds familiar.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:24 | 4016487 Smiley
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What a petulant little punk.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 21:40 | 4016815 LetThemEatRand
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Please stop insulting punks.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:26 | 4016488 Randoom Thought
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Once again, this is a PRE-PLANND EVENT. The brand new looking "Because of the government shutdown ... blah, blah, blah ..." signs distributed to all national parks for this event are ample proof that it was pre-planned.

The purpose of the event is to try to force people into a desperate and violent conflict over the false dialectic of political left and right, haves and have-nots, government worker and private citizen. The answer to this is for people to ignore the government and to pull together in groups to work this out. Make the federal government useless. Take away their power to cause us to fight each other.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:24 | 4016490 tahoebumsmith
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Why have we heard this on every issue since he was elected? Please, i'm getting tired of this dog and pony show.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:25 | 4016491 PLira
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Obummer suffers from two specific disorders, among many others:

1, NPD-Narsasistic Prick disorder and,

2. OCD=Osbstructionist Cocksuker Disorder

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:25 | 4016493 WeTheSheeplez
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Didn't o bombya tell boner to "call his bluff" last time?...

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:27 | 4016504 MiltonFriedmans...
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The compromiser in chief won't negotiate?

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:30 | 4016510 One And Only
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Obama went to Occidental College.

I don't think they stock the thesaurus there.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:30 | 4016521 insanelysane
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Keep it shuttered.  People keep saying that tax payers will feel it eventually but I for one am curious to see how long it takes.  All I've seen so far is the free shit army whining they aren't getting free sit and people whining about National Parks.  Here's a tip, go to a state park or a town park.  If anything it makes me, as a tax payer, more annoyed of all the things I have been paying for.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:32 | 4016529 f16hoser
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Apparently, Dimon and Blankfein told Obama to "Shut the Fuck Up" and raise the debt ceiling. Obama works for JPM/GS. (Saudis also) And you sheeple thought you lived in a Deocratic Republic. Too funny.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:32 | 4016534 Atomizer
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Our dear US Muslim leader must be shell-shocked over the resistance of his new book ideologies. [How to Lose Friends and Uninfluenced Bag Holding People.]

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:33 | 4016541 sbenard
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If Republicans cave on this, they will have anointed a dictator. Emperor Obama! He will be emboldened to literally do anything he wants.

Tyranny is here, and it's name is Obama!

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:34 | 4016552 loveyajimbo
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From the WH:  "Boner axe me if I could did it... I am yaz... den I beez kiddn the cracka... it beez nah... Polypsi bitch fatted... meet be ovah... sheet."

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:41 | 4016571 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Obama and the Senate maybe up shits creek no matter what they say according to this.

http://www.examiner.com/article/obamacare-can-be-defunded-without-senate...

When the House passed legislation to defund ObamaCare but would keep the government running through mid-December, the Senate, led by Senate Majority Leader, Senator Harry Reid (D-NV) stated that they would not budge on Obamacare and the legislation was defeated.

On Monday, Dr. Harold Pease, an expert on the United States Constitution, stated that the authority in dealing with Obamacare funding belongs to the U.S. House, not the U.S. Senate and that the House is doing this all wrong.

Pease said, “Everything hinged upon funding which was given exclusively to the House of Representatives, the only power that they alone had.”

Pease went on to say, “All bills for raising revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills. To fund anything, in this case Obamacare, first approval is required by the House of Representatives.”

“If that does not happen taxpayer money cannot be spent. The people, through their representatives to Congress, have determined, after a three-year closer scrutiny of The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (Obamacare), that it does not protect the patient, is not affordable and is not even workable; hence in the interests of the vast majority of the people needs to be defunded.”

When the United States Supreme Court ruled on Obamacare in 2012, Chief Justice Roberts stance on Obamacare coincides with the intent of the U.S. Constitution, explained by Pease, and the powers between the House and Senate.

According to the U.S. Supreme Court ruling, Obamacare cannot be implemented and is not considered the law of the land, contrary to Democrat claims.

Bubba Atkinson of the Independent Journal Review wrote, “Chief Justice Roberts actually ruled the mandate, relative to the commerce clause, was unconstitutional. That is how the Democrats got Obama-care going in the first place. This is critical. His ruling means Congress can’t compel American citizens to purchase anything, ever. The notion is now officially and forever, unconstitutional. As it should be.”

“Next, he stated that, because Congress doesn’t have the ability to mandate, it must, to fund Obama-care, rely on its power to tax. Therefore, the mechanism that funds Obama-care is a tax,” said Atkinson. “He struck down as unconstitutional, the Obama-care idea that the federal government can bully states into complying by yanking their existing medicaid funding. Liberals, through Obama-care, basically said to the states — “comply with Obama-care or we will stop existing funding.” Roberts ruled that is a no-no.”

When the House attached Obamacare to the legislation in funding the government, it made a mistake in doing so and the funding of Obamacare should have been separate, thereby giving the Senate no power in denying the Houses’ request to defund Obamacare.

Pease said, “House opposition to funding Obamacare would have been far more powerful if made a “stand alone” bill not attached to general funding, but it is not. “Stand alone,” having no other parts, would have left the Senate no wiggle or compromise room once it went to them, nor would there be for the Joint Conference Committee thereafter that reconciles any differences between the two houses. There would be nothing to reconcile, Obamacare is merely defunded.”

“Still, the intent of the Founding Fathers was to give the people, through their House of Representatives, the power collectively to say no to any proposed federal tax, which she is decidedly doing.”

If Obamacare is removed from the government budget, presented, and voted on as a separate bill, Obamacare can be defunded by the House and the Senate and the President has no constitutional authority to override the House decision.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:42 | 4016584 tovar2
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We need some new people need to start getting pissed...us old timers need some support

Can we get a couple park rangers or capital hill burger flippers to finally join the ranks?

We need some new anger...us old f*!@ 's can't keep staying pissed 24hrs a day....

Please tell me that someone with some nads is getting pissed and joining the team.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:46 | 4016597 Robert of Ottawa
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In reality, defficult to say what the hell is going on. Boehner is painted into the  red corner, while, as a Washington Elite, he is much more comfortable in the Blue, and would wish the people do not notice what is going on amongst the ruling elite. All this rhetoric is only drawing attention to the wealth of Washingtonians, the courtly or elite class, as opposed to the rest of the country.

Also, I doubt the competence of the Obamanoids; I suspect a lot of shouting and disagrwwing in private. But The One's ego, stung by the Syria fiasco, now wants to show himself as "strong" and "resolute".

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:46 | 4016601 john_connor
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Who cares

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:45 | 4016605 dexter_morgan
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Obama lied? No way......

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:49 | 4016615 optimator
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He didn't lie.  Jamie Diamon and the banksters simply had their 'meeting' with him and they changed his mind.  Didn't I put that diplomatially for a change?

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:50 | 4016623 Heroic Couplet
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I see the NRA spoilng for a fire fight and it may come to that. The NRA cannot bring weapons onto Capitol Hill, but who knows, they could storm the guards.

Then Obama can call out the military. the NRA has mostly ground weapons. Whoever has air advantage will prevail, and the NRA might go out in a blaze, but they'll be spaghetti sauce.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 23:52 | 4017293 Jethro
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? That was interesting.....

The NRA is mostly elderly men. They aren't storming anything except the lobbyist's email.

Now, the Free Shit Army on the other hand. Maybe they'll burn down their own neighborhoods once an EBT payment isn't reinstalled on their dignity cards.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:54 | 4016640 butchtrucks
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Good on the Tea Party Republicans for standing up against the communistical outrage that is Obamacare. They should not give ONE INCH in their refusal to pass a budget or raise the debt ceiling until this law is TOTALLY wiped off the statute books. If that means some pain then GOOD - no pain no gain. The important thing is to prevent deadbeats getting access to healthcare - that is a noble cause which it is worth fighting for every inch of the way.

But this is only a START. The Republicans need to ensure the defunding of ALL socialist programs that are bringing this once great country to it's knees including Medicare, VA, Medicaid and Social Security. These government-run programs are just pandering to people’s laziness and lack of personal responsibility and are totally un-American.

In this country good health is not a birth-right – it is a privelage – and a privilege that should only be available to those who are hardworking, wealthy, and smart enough to pay for their own insurance.

We should not try and emulate socialist hell-holes like Australia, Canada or Scandanavia where every dead-beat can access free public health systems regardless of whether they’ve saved up to pay for it or not.

The US got to be great through people standing on their own two feet and taking responsibility for their own health and well being. Not one dime of my taxes should go towards supporting socialized free health care for those too lazy, poor, old, or stupid to look after themselves.

Medicare in particular is the worst socialist program ever introduced in this country (by another socialist Dem President – Lyndon Johnson in 1965). It’s a single payer government run program funded from taxes paid by you and me – to support old sick people we don’t even know.

Back in the ’60s the GOP fought long and hard to prevent this communistic system becoming law. As Ronald Reagan said at the time the Dems were trying to force this thing through “If you and I don’t stop Medicare then one of these days we are going to spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it once was like in America when men were free.”

George HW Bush Described Medicare in 1964 as “socialized medicine at its worst” and. Same with Barry Goldwater who said: “Having given our pensioners their medical care in kind, why not food baskets, why not public housing accommodations, why not vacation resorts, why not a ration of cigarettes for those who smoke and of beer for those who drink.”

Social Security is another Communist program that needs to be abolished right now. Did you know that the U.S. Social Security program is the largest government program in the world and the single greatest expenditure in the federal budget, accounting for 20.8% of the total budget? Needless to say it was introduced by yet another socialistic Democrat President – Franklin Roosevelt back in the 1930s. And what is ‘social security’ ? Its nothing but a program to take hard-earned money from the likes of you and me to allow lazy old people who didn’t bother to save for their retirement during their working years to live high on the hog.

So good on the Republicans for declaring war on Obamacare. Now I just hope they will see fit to start unwiding the other socialist and communistical atrocities such as social security, Medicare, Medicade and VA – which are also totally unconstitutional and totally un-American.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 21:10 | 4016690 goldenbuddha454
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I'd like to see some commentary on the dreaded possible debt ceiling default.  Is it going to be like the Y2k hype where nothing went wrong and nothing changed or is everyone's bank account going to be bailed in to save their asses?  I suspect we'll all be cyprused, but then again its coming at some point anyway, so better sooner than later?

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 21:11 | 4016695 drunkenlout
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"The House could act today to reopen the government and stop the harm this shutdown is causing to the economy and families across the country. "

Or not.  How about "The House could adjourn and stop the harm this government is doing to the economy and families across the country."

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 23:27 | 4017213 Jethro
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The House should adjourn until Oct 18th.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 21:19 | 4016735 syntaxterror
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I hope dickhead's Pork Acres Country Club is closed for "renovations".

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 22:30 | 4017028 Pool Shark
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We are now approaching the 2-day mark on federal government closure.

Have any of you actually been inconvenienced by it?

As for me; I feel freer and safer...

 

Thu, 10/03/2013 - 00:17 | 4017345 harleyjohn45
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Spoken like a true Muslim.  Its hard to negotiate with a Muslim.

Thu, 10/03/2013 - 01:49 | 4017452 BeetleBailey
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Fuck You Obama, you Africa trip pimpin douchebag

Thu, 10/03/2013 - 09:20 | 4017951 rwe2late
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 Under current statutory law with the usual Supreme Court blessing,

can't Obama just declare another "emergency",

this time for alleged financial terrorism,

 and "detain" the recalcitrant (according to Obama, H. Reid, et al)

members of Congress ... indefinitely ?

 

Shutdown problem solved ...

(or not).

A good "terrorist" law is hard to find.

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