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Some Hypocrisy Money Can't Buy; For Everything Else There Is The 'Occupy Wall Street' Debit Card

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Source: Not The Onion. "We debated buying a bank, which we came close to doing. It remains an option for us," Carne Ross, a board member of the Occupy Money Cooperative (an offshoot of the Occupy Wall Street movement) says. "We eventually came to this [the debit card], as the easiest way to get a financial product out there."


According to the group, the audience for the card would include members of Occupy Wall Street plus anyone disenfranchised from the current banking system but as ABC News reports, one 'disenfranchised' person had some strong views, slamming the people behind the card, adding that, "the true agenda of Occupy Wall Street is here: to give you a negligibly 'better' option within a system that is killing us all."


Via ABC News,

 An offshoot of the Occupy Wall Street movement plans to issue its own debit card. What's next? The Occupy-edition Range Rover?


Asked this same snide question, Carne Ross, a board member of the Occupy Money Cooperative, tells ABC News that his group's intentions could not be more altruistic or more in sympathy with Occupy's larger, progressive agenda.




"We debated buying a bank, which we came close to doing. It remains an option for us," he says. "We eventually came to this [the debit card], as the easiest way to get a financial product out there."


Though its website, Occupy Money seeks to raise approximately $1 million to produce the card,




The audience for the card would include members of Occupy Wall Street plus anyone disenfranchised from the current banking system, including people who cannot have a checking account because of their past financial history.


The idea has not been immune from criticism.




Wrote Ebrahimian with an acid pen: "Yes, folks, the true agenda of Occupy Wall Street is here: to give you a negligibly 'better' option within a system that is killing us all, and at such a reasonable price." She was only warming up.


Referring to the board members of Occupy Money, including Ross, she says that when she read their bios, she "went from being amused to confused to outright shocked. They are all clearly lifelong revolutionaries. Working for BlackBerry, the Federal Reserve, and Deutsche Bank, for example, are real resume builders when it comes to collective struggle."

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Wed, 10/02/2013 - 19:01 | 4016068 Randoom Thought
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Independent credit unions already exist as a slightly better option when compared to international criminal banks such as JP Morgan Chase and company.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 19:24 | 4016178 ghengis86
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I love my CU. the tellers know me by name; they're nice and helpful; have acquiesced to certain transactional request that my old bank would never do; better rates and terms.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 19:39 | 4016270 Jack Napier
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Big banks, little credit unions, and spunky debit cards from the Occupy movement all lead to the same end - a microchip in your body so you can have the convenience of buying groceries if you forget your wallet, locating your children if they are abducted or lost in an avalanche, or looking up where you were at 2:30 PM two fortnights ago when the flatfoots come rapping on your FEMA trailer.

A negligibly better form of slavery...

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 21:54 | 4016867 Vampyroteuthis ...
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Occupy Wall Street consisted of overeducated, snotty yuppies and hipsters. No surprise they would do something like this.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 22:09 | 4016932 thelibcentury
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And some very smart, insightful people, don't buy the .gov hype - bought and paid for.


If the argument is that it was severely compromised, agreed. But it wasn't compromised by accident.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 19:00 | 4016070 lakecity55
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ha ha ha.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:11 | 4016422 nmewn
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No shit, "Whats in your wallet, Comrade?"...lol.

I swear...where emotion & passion is involved, you will find thieves.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 19:01 | 4016071 dick cheneys ghost
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Howard Stern interviews Jessie Ventura 10/02/2013

h/t DailyPaul



Wed, 10/02/2013 - 19:27 | 4016193 Running On Bing...
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Could you please save this and maybe post it on your faseblook or some other valueless venue?

Stern FCS.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 21:51 | 4016846 Chuck Walla
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"Yeah, we played the weak minded Hopium Addicts until we found the real money.




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What's in your Gulag?

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 19:01 | 4016072 Fake_nation
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4. Comfortable Revolution

Here, we refer to the massive apparatus of non-profit organizations spanning the ideological spectrum that let you believe you are making a difference by doing something like 'raising awareness'. The libertarian movement in particular is guilty of this, as apparently one overturns the status quo in Washington D.C. by employing a bunch of yuppie Millenials to do 'policy' work, as if people who have presided over one of the largest expansions of government power in world history are going to be stopped by another policy paper from The Cato Institute.

These organizations are the perfect examples of how the Boomer status quo misdirects our growing social and political conscience toward counterproductive activities. You want to be a libertarian? Well, if you want to actually have some credibility that would mean finding a line of work other than lobbying for policy in Washington D.C. That's the kind of consistent, principled, conscious action you would have to take to actually be making a difference, yet the legions of Millennials who fill the ranks of all kind of advocacy organizations seem to think you can be a revolutionary activist as a steady career.

This kind of complacency is why the Boomers write us off as a bunch of whining, spoiled brats whenever we raise our objections. They've taught us that it's fine to have our ideals, so long as we can monetize them into respectable employment, and in the process they have converted the real radicalism represented by figures like Ayn Rand or Malcom X, figures they grew up with, into the non-threatening proceedings of Students For Libertyand the NAACP. When confronted with the myriad of problems we have, they identify with these more noble figures as part of a solution, and encourage our interest, so as to maintain credibility. But they will also try to filter you toward these organizations, where you can become an 'official' advocate, i.e. part of the problem.

Don't fall for the trick. Non-profits are useless at best, and scams at worst. No genuine change has ever been accomplished by a bunch of ill-educated interns staring at spreadsheets from 9 to 5 in a nicely air-conditioned office on K Street.


Thu, 10/03/2013 - 01:20 | 4017423 yepyep
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this is kind of like the concept of a libertarian party.

and lets just ignore for a second the statists who like to identify libertarian or minarchist and look at the rothbard idea of a libertarian (im not lost on the fact rothbard himself was guilty of this also i might add pursuing political means to further the agenda)

anyway my point is, you come to a conclusion that the state is the problem ok, but then come to the next conclusion that the best way to deal with this is to form a party that operates completely within the confines of the state system and apparatus in the hope of abolishing said state?

i see these bullshit non profit organisations as a similar type of time wasting affair.

like how government has successfully redefined the meanings of words over time to manufacture consent and shift the paradigm for example the meaning of "liberal" over the last 250 years a similar success is being achieved with revolution.

the meaning of revolution is fast starting to match the meaning of "reform"


Wed, 10/02/2013 - 19:01 | 4016073 lakecity55
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Get Bill Ayers to do the commercial.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 19:06 | 4016078 Cognitive Dissonance
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A whore is a whore is a whore regardless of the name we prefer to use or the cause we choose. The system cannot be reformed from inside and you will never be allowed close enough from outside to make significant changes. This is why it must collapse.....or be collapsed. The real question is will we have both the courage and wisdom after the collapse to make the changes needed, both personally and socially, to prevent a repeat down the road.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 19:08 | 4016103 DaddyO
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Collapse is inevitable, however the most important aspect of the collapse will be who's doing it, us the citizens and rightful power in the USA or an oligarchic entity bent on implementing a new and better system?

SkyNet, bitches?


Wed, 10/02/2013 - 19:34 | 4016239 Herd Redirectio...
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Yes, exactly.  TPTB know collapse is coming, and they're not fighting it, hell, they are largely the cause of it, and for them, success is CONTROLLING the collapse.  Order out of chaos, don't you know.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 19:22 | 4016172 NOTaREALmerican
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Re: The real question is will we have both the courage and wisdom after the collapse to make the changes needed, both personally and socially, to prevent a repeat down the road.

Uh, no. 

Unless you've got some way to keep the bullshit spewers from creating believable bullshit for the dumbasses nothing can possibly change.

Government + bullshit = politics

Morals + bullshit = religion

Revolution + bullshit = Occupy Card

Bullshit,  ask for it by name.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 19:48 | 4016317 MeelionDollerBogus
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That actually brought a tear to my eye.

Now I need to go watch a slow-motion flag.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:03 | 4016368 Harbanger
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Grassroots + information = US Revolution

Here's a tear for your eye.


Wed, 10/02/2013 - 21:58 | 4016883 Chuck Walla
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It only stands to reason that where there's sacrifice, there's someone collecting the sacrificial offerings. Where there's service, there is someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice is speaking of slaves and masters, and intends to be the master.

~ Ayn Rand

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Wed, 10/02/2013 - 19:56 | 4016347 Harbanger
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"Unless you've got some way to keep the bullshit spewers from creating believable bullshit for the dumbasses nothing can possibly change."

It's already happening. They had a good run, 50+ years, but the MSM is losing it's monopoly and ability to control perception.  For the 1st time in history, real infomation is available to the public and easily distributable.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:04 | 4016382 NotApplicable
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So is disinformation. Signal to noise ratio says you're fucked.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:10 | 4016407 Harbanger
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Separate were you've been from where you're going.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 22:29 | 4017016 thelibcentury
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Both your comments are excellent. Optimistic - which is something I have difficulty manifesting lately - but excellent.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 19:02 | 4016081 edb5s
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What's in your (sustainably-produced hemp) wallet??


Seriously though, which card servicing company do they plan on using?  Visa?  What a joke.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 19:37 | 4016163 Emergency Ward
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Maybe it will be issued with a JPMorgan Chase Preferred User logo in the upper left hand corner.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 19:25 | 4016182 LetsGetPhysical
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Nah, they're gonna use the Russell Simmons "RushCard" as their carrier.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 19:37 | 4016247 Herd Redirectio...
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"get your government benefits up to 3 days sooner"

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:07 | 4016395 NotApplicable
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Ask Soros.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:26 | 4016505 nmewn
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Dammit, beat me by an hour!

Ah well, let me add, they're clearly marketing for the faux Urban Camper segment of society who lives in the high rises around "Occupy", on trust funds established by someone who actually did somethiing to gain wealth to be extracted by another, who now can't be inconvienced with sitting in the dirt & grime with the "masses" waiting for their shit to be stolen.

Just pay the "guilt tax" and be done with it, a much better Progressive Plan...lol.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 19:03 | 4016085 surf0766
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Does this one come complete with a bow tied pile of shit?

Show me what hypocrisy looks like  this is what hypocrisy looks like.



Wed, 10/02/2013 - 19:13 | 4016124 Herkimer Jerkimer
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Co-opt the revolution without the dough-heads even knowin'!



Wed, 10/02/2013 - 19:14 | 4016125 Atomizer
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After IBM fucked up a simple Healthcare website, next MO is get everyone all fuzzy on cashless purchases program. The more fraud/identity cases, the easier it is for MSM to convince someone to try a 100% bullet proof transfer of exchange monetary encrypted cashless transaction.


Moo hoo ha ha ha !!

IBM RFID Commercial - The Future Market| Note the date

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 19:30 | 4016212 Running On Bing...
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"After IBM fucked up a simple Healthcare website"

Oh your mean Indian Business Machines? No wonder.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 19:16 | 4016141 NOTaREALmerican
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The Occupy Card,  don't leave revolution without it.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 19:28 | 4016200 Atomizer
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Rather than getting pissed off, just have a good laugh.




Wed, 10/02/2013 - 19:19 | 4016150 LetsGetPhysical
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The money is drawn directly from their Trust Funds. All the cool kids are doing it.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 19:21 | 4016160 world_debt_slave
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if you can't beat'em, join'em

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 19:21 | 4016167 jonjon831983
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Add to this things like: http://strikedebt.org + http://rollingjubilee.org if you think those are good ideas... or not.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 19:22 | 4016169 Spastica Rex
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Reminds me of what happened to the hippies during the 1980s.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 19:28 | 4016189 RaceToTheBottom
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And for Danger Bankster's next feat:

He will attempt to use the Occupy Wall Street Debit Card.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 19:27 | 4016191 JuliaS
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Preoccupy Main St. movement.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 19:28 | 4016199 ShrNfr
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If anyone gets this card, it serfs them right.

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 19:28 | 4016201 icanhasbailout
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next up: occupycreditreport.com

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 19:37 | 4016259 Hooter Shaker
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If everyone used credit cards the right way, we could break these fuckers in short order.  


1)  Never carry a balance.  

2)  Use only a cash back card.

3)  Take the cash back as soon as its available.

4)  Wait until the last day to make your payment in full each month.  


Works for me...

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 20:51 | 4016622 auric1234
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What the shepple don't understand is that they don't hold any money. What they regard as "money" is in fact credit.

Credit goes both ways, and credit is unavoidable because it is so liquid. But it needs to be used correctly. Which doesn't happen as long as people regard it as "money".

(Seriously, your "savings" are made of credit? They consist of someone else's promise? WTF)


Wed, 10/02/2013 - 22:39 | 4017072 Blood Spattered...
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Works for me too.  Our entire financial system is funded on people not willing to live within their means, which forces our collective standards of living down.


Thu, 10/03/2013 - 02:40 | 4017499 merizobeach
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"we could break these fuckers in short order."

Playing their game is your strategy for breaking them?

I get it you are trying to avoid subsidizing them.  Instead, how about amassing as many cards and as much credit as you possibly can, maxing it all for cash, and sticking them with the bill (while you perhaps buy outright some land in another country)?  If that were done en masse, might it affect a breaking of 'these fuckers' a little quicker?

Thu, 10/03/2013 - 07:07 | 4017651 Hooter Shaker
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That's my "nuclear option".  We're not there yet.  In the meantime, I'm going to slowly bleed them out....I'm going to need some help though....They have a lot of blood...

Wed, 10/02/2013 - 19:39 | 4016261 lasvegaspersona
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Any organization that starts to sell banking or insurance immediately loses sight of its original goals. It has happened to the AMA, AARP, and the NRA. While originally noble (maybe) as soon as the org gets big enough to supply a critical mass to the brokers then the selling of products becomes mission number one. Compromises are made and eventually the club is whittled down to those who seek monetary profit and purpose is forgotten.

The AMA is now only 17% of American docs and most of those are academics not practicing physicians. They control all the gifts of well meaning docs who left them money in their wills. They do not need membership to survive. They capture the name and prestige that the group once had and use it for their own benefit. They now speak for Obama and not for physicians.

The NRA recently was for 'ending the gunshow loophole'. Ths is in direct contrast to the members wishes. (since reversed but they did go there.)

I quit any organization that offer insurance or banking products. It is a sure sign of compromise.

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