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White House Issues Veto Threat On House "Piecemeal" Deal
Not entirely surprising but the President is not amused at the House's "piecemeal" funding bill plans:
If the President were presented with H.J. Res. 70, H.J. Res. 71, H.J. Res. 72, H.J. Res. 73, and H.R. 3230, he would veto the bills.
And Via The White House,
STATEMENT OF ADMINISTRATION POLICY
H.J. Res. 70, 71, 72, 73 and H.R. 3230 – Limited Appropriations Resolutions, 2014
(Rep. Rogers, R-KY)
The Administration strongly opposes House passage of H.J. Res. 70, H.J. Res. 71, H.J. Res. 72, H.J. Res. 73, and H.R. 3230, making fiscal year 2014 appropriations for very limited activities. Consideration of appropriations bills in a piecemeal fashion is not a serious or responsible way to run the United States Government. Instead of opening up a few Government functions, the House of Representatives should re-open all of the Government. The harmful impacts of a shutdown extend across Government, affecting services that are critical to small businesses, women, children, seniors, and others across the Nation. The Senate acted in a responsible manner on a short-term funding measure to maintain Government functions and avoid a damaging Government shutdown. The House of Representatives should allow a straight up or down vote on the Senate-passed H.J. Res. 59.
If the President were presented with H.J. Res. 70, H.J. Res. 71, H.J. Res. 72, H.J. Res. 73, and H.R. 3230, he would veto the bills.
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Obama the temper tantrum president
Let it burn!
Fuck you Barry.
queue up the Blazing Saddles video
Dictators don't negotiate.
Neither do socialists.
Puppets lack the capacity entirely.
If this is like his red line in the sand for Syria and chemical weapons, his pussy ass will cave soon. Its too bad Putin couldn't be the house majority leader. Then OBama would shit himself everytime the republicans whispered.
There must be some new playbook in politics which ignores the loss of credibility from backing down. First backing themselves into a corner on Syria only to cave, and now this, again.
I don't recall this sort of brinksmanship/caving being endemic in previous puppetships.
Looks like Obama is saying it is, "My way or fuck you."
He's my hero - keeps Washington closed.
He and Congress just need to man up and eliminate their own salaries and perks.
I hope they can't fix the debt ceiling issue either. That way they'll be forced to balance the budget. ("Defaulting" is just BS, they will still be collecting taxes which legally and constitutionally have to be used to fund the debt.)
let all the .gov types appreciate the type of .gov they have helped to create.
..and I had anything to do with it, I would tack on an amendment that precludes reimbursement for the furloughs and make that a point of contention to swap for Obamacare.
that would twist their panties in a knot.
It really makes me fucking mad when you can think of simple things that virtually EVERY American can agree to that will never be done that would greatly change the way D.C. works.
For example.... Make EVERY politician abide and live under EVERY law they create.... Or, make it illegal to pass laws that favor one business over another one... no special perks, no special protection, no special status based in law.
Those two things virtually every honest American could agree to, I would think but, simple and common sense has no place in our capital.
Our federal laws are filled with such shit that favors the big businesses and allows unmeasurable corruption and graft.... Our tax laws are used as weapons against certain businesses... our EPA has a SWAT team now....
Uuuuugh. I don't look forward to what happens next.
That 'law' already exists. It's called the Equal Protection clause of the United States Constitution.
It's not followed by these fucking self-dealing ratbags, but it's the law of the land, as certain people like saying about things that are not.
Yep... and the 4th amendment grants my privacy. LOL
It would be important to bankrupt the .Gov employees not getting a paycheck. This would make peeps think twice about running to the tit for endless milkery.
May the pain exceed expectations.
Dear Mugabe,
Fuck you!!!
2nd term Presidents have nothing to lose. Their political careers are over after this. Should be interesting to see just how long he will drag it out.
Interesting how some amendments are more important than others. Obama has broken many constituion principles and we say nothing. But if he was to run for a thrid term, heads would roll.
just an observation
He could always just run under one of his other names. Problem solved!
Or the Libs could just do this....
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/114945/two-russians-walk-parliamentar...
Be prepared to be pissed off. They start suggesting this shit, you know things aren't going to plan.
(Edit: unless they are)
some of us believe the heads should have rolled a long time ago if there was a speck of integrity left in this world
As long as it takes.
Push for an Obama third term will start after the 2014 elections. Obama dosen't care about anything else in the Constitution, why should he care about a term limit?
This is all theatre to take the heat of the chocolate jesus.
Notice how none of his many scandals is even being addressed by anyone in Congress?
This CR shit is all a gift to the criminal foreign operatives who occupy the White House.
Politics is war by other means.
Indeed. I see republicans and supposed conservative media starting to worry but 2 things in my view are germane:
1) very few if any congressional republicans are in threat of losing a seat over this.
2) playing up barry's obstinate nature here, and showing off polticial shitburgers like telling WW2 vets to go home from trips planned months ago could EASILY turn political favor.
Besides, if the long awaited shit starts hitting the fan metals may go where they should go.
Besides, if the long awaited shit starts hitting the fan metals may go where they should go.
Actually, I'm watching for another manufactured smack down of PM.
Sorta hoping. Got some FRNs to exchange.
Fear not. I got a bonus to spend so ill tell you when i buy. That always portends a drop
F Obama and F the Democrats. Yeah yeah I know Red Team and Blue Team but this is total BS.
He is a Dick-tater and the Dems support him 100%.
Fire 80% of all the govt employees. They will not be missed. Let states and local cities and towns handle things. F the Fed Govt.
WHO cares, why even try to negotiate with him, waste of time.Time some Fed employees FEEL the pain 48 million other Americans are, cry me a river.
Can't we settle this like adults? Pistols at dawn on the Capitol Building steps.
Sell the event on Pay-per-View and the national debt would be cut in half in a matter of weeks.
Nah, might lose some irreplaceable people that way, Aaron Burrhhh..
Name one irreplacable person in Congress or the administration today. One.
Maybe some boxing matches. D's vs. R's.
Best out of 101 bouts wins!!!
GO GO Prez Tyrant GO!
So if the Right is trying to negotiate, and the Left refuses, how is the right holding DC hostage? Is the right supposed to vote for what they don't believe in? This whole thing is beyond wierd.......and feels Banana Republic like.
Where have you been? We voted for a Marxist con man as president twice who has now doubled our debt in 4.5 yrs but it's apparently not his fault if you believe the polls. Therefore he will not negotiate over raising more debt and sending the US over the fiscal cliff as fast as possible. Historically this is how Marxists have acted the world over and there is nothing short of impeachment now that will stop this madness.
EXACTLY!
How is it that the House are the obstructionists, when they offer to fund most of the Gov't, when they offer to negotiate????
The Senate and President say No, No, No, No, No, No, No, do it our way or forget it.....and yet it is the House that supposedly shut the Gov't down.....
BTW 2 days with a limited Fed Gov't and the Sun still came up and the earth is still spinning on its axis....Maybe we don't need them at ALL !
So Obama pretty much flipped it and is now holding the govt pocket book hostage.
Obama can simply prevent congress from spending now until the pain is bad enough that congress gives way to a clean bill.... congress painted themselves into a corner.
LOL
That would put Barry's ass on the line.Last thing Barry "Not Present" Zero wants is his name attached to the fray.
Go ahead and call his bluff. Let the D's repeatedly vote no on funding government agencies.
The R's have played this well by piecemealing and BO is trying to control the narrative but the truth will be known and that's when the D's and BO will cave. Once their own constituency realizes it is them that is not providing their paychecks, they will be forced to concede but, of course, they will call it a victory.
Regardless, this is politics so both the R's and the D's can kiss my ass.
Word.
an arrogant divisive prick who has painted himself in the corner. He has the propaganda media, but I think more people are actually waking up to Fauxbama.
It's all or nothin baby!
Make him use the veto.
That's the whole point.
Good point.
Start with funding welfare, child services, that sort of thing. Perhaps soldier pay. Force him to veto that first.
I don't think OHarry will let them get to OBarry's desk.
Good order of battle though +++
He passed "Soldier Pay" just a couple of days ago. The Senate and House also sent him a bill that just ensured active duty military would be paid if the Government shut down. I guess it was "ok" to do last fiscal year, but not this one.
cept that the Senate has to vote FOR it, before he can veto it....
That ain't happenen either....but what the hell....let the senate keep voting it down
EXACTLY!
Let the Senate keep voting it down or let Chaulky veto!
That's the whole point.
The longer this goes on, the longer it puts pressure on weak hands in the Senate.
Debt ceiling looms as well. MSM isn't getting traction in the spin they want.
This shit is working.
Is the goobermint still closed?
Who runs the goobermint?
Hey Barry, call Putin for some help if you get stuck.
Is the teleprompter shutdown?
I'm guessing they covered that base. Probably paid $1.3 million up front for 4 years worth of service in the event of a government shut down. That's what I would do if I were him.
http://teleprompter-rental-nyc.com/presidential-teleprompter-rental-nyc-speec/
These guys in Washington are ass clowns, everyone is pointing and laughing at them for the joke they are. Where is the process to keep the government shutdown and to fire all of these assholes?
Burn it down, burn it all down.
barry signed a piecemeal deal to pay the troops tho.
But here comes the Kevster and $4 billion in pomo pump to turn today's early action into a sucker's sell off.
If he vetoes it... HE OWNS IT. What a tool!
Funny, they actually fear that a bill might pass.
Let's go play 18! or 36?
Obama is becoming Mugabe like, and Lame Stream Media has been Mugabe like for decades.
Time to stand strong and take it all down. If the US defaults, even "temporarily", it will begin a chain of events that will ensure that homey goes down.
Call Chaulkys bluff, for fucks sake!
Make him veto! Make him sign the fucking line which is dotted!
Then override the fucking veto and tell him to get his queer ass back to the golf course.
He isn't up for re- election but a shitload of others in the house and senate are.
Please motherfuckers, don't snatch defeat from the jaws of victory again.
Hold the line.
Ummmm... yeah!
Would love to see that asshat veto it, but Dingy Harry has his worthless ass covered, no way will the Furst Blak Prez will be shamed into actually making a decision!
Harry's days are numbered.
This is the consistent application of pressure. They will fold and go against his crusty ass. Nobody in the Senate that wants to stay there is going to follow a lame duck over a cliff.
The house is holding the short curlies, here.
For now...we'll see how long that lasts...if history is any guide the Giant Weeping Carrot and the Pubbies will fold at some point and either let Mugabe & Dem's get all what they want or all with a meaningless promise that can be easily manipulated/withdrawn at a latter date...
Asking a Gazelle not to act like food can be a lot to ask of a Gazelle...at some point they tire of running and are eaten...
They should defund military (specially the dudes who take care of nukes) and air traffic controllers... that should speed up the things with republicans. Also still dont get why does Congress gets paid?
There's a serious lack of news reports about anyone being inconvenienced in any way.
Nobody can catch a furloughed "worker" on camera yet.
They are still indoors spankin to porn.
This has to go on long enough for agencies to blow through their slush funds.
Once the first Vegas conference is missed, they will squeal to the dems to make a deal and override Comacho.
What I'd like to know is, where is the American Reindustrialization Bill? All this bullshit about how anything is going to be funded, but not a peep about reversing the progressive destruction of the country' capacity to support itself.
Hey, I'm not really that naive; I just felt the urge to actually say it out loud.
Administration wants total chaos in collaboration with other fake side.When the affected govt needers start loseing it get ready.
Distraction, distraction, distraction.
Blah...blah...blah.
Who else is sick-n-tired of this horsewash and pissing in a bucket show?
All this is a cleverly orchestrated distraction from all the other REAL corruptions of this babylonian govt.
Here is what people should be more concerned about.:
http://www.federaljack.com/radioactive-bluefin-tuna-caught-off-californi...
And how about that Benghazi-gate thing anyways?
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/10/25/obama-arming-al-qaeda-rea...
This clown show will go on until some of the big money interests start getting hurt: MIC, Wall Street, etc. Then watch how fast the Tea Party boys are able to sent over a clean CR to the Senate. What a bunch of buffoons.
Douche. You think those interests get their cheese from continuing resolutions?
What the fuck ever.
They get it straight from the printing press. Or they just fucking steal it the old fashioned way.
This is a cock block of free shit army cheese. MIC could give a flying fuck about that.
***Douche. You think those interests get their cheese from continuing resolutions?***
No douche, I think the Tea Party boys get their walk around and stay in office money (bribes) from the big money interests. As soon as they start to be hurt by the government shut down they're going to bitch slap these clowns and the whole thing will be over.
Lulz. Tea Party getting their money from MIC.
You are a special kind of dipshit. Lindsey and his boyfriend McCain, yes...all day long.
You think Lee and Paul get MIC love? They don't even get money from their own party.
Have you missed the gentle Lindsey and that Yosemite Sam look alike hyperventilating about Tea Party anarchists lately? Of that crusty assed Reid?
***They don't even get money from their own party***
Well they better be getting money from somewhere or they're not going to be re-elected. Current cost for re-election is $1.6 million for the House and $10.4 million for the Senate. $20 bucks donation from Ma & Pa Kettle Tea-bagger at home just won't cut it.
I cannot believe the american people plaplace this imbecile in the white house
Who's in charge of the electronic ballet box??
Sure they give you some, but the most important, they make look like a close election, and insert their man.
Not a dictatorship yet. If Barry and the liberals had their way they would make all of his opponents disappear.
We may not be too far from that. The mainstream liberal media would just avoid covering it.
"The mainstream liberal media would just avoid covering it."
I get your drift, but I think they would be all atwitter that obstrucionist republicans have been consigned to the wings and the country can now, at last, move forward.
It's time for Boehner or Cruz or ? to refocus attention to the debt ceiling by standing in front of the American people and using the exact speech Obama gave in 2006 for not raising the debt ceiling and state unequivocally that they will not negotiate.
In my wildest dreams, they do exactly that. Each take the podium and read it verbatim.
March 16, 2006 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD—SENATE S2237-2238:
“Mr. OBAMA. Mr. President, I rise today to talk about America’s debt problem.
The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. Over the past 5 years, our federal debt has increased by $3.5 trillion to
$8.6 trillion. That is ‘‘trillion’’ with a ‘‘T.’’ That is money that we have borrowed from the Social Security trust fund, borrowed from China and Japan, borrowed from American taxpayers. And over the next 5 years, between now and 2011, the President’s budget will increase the debt by almost another $3.5 trillion.
Numbers that large are sometimes hard to understand. Some people may wonder why they matter. Here is why: This year, the Federal Government will spend $220 billion on interest. That is more money to pay interest on our national debt than we’ll spend on Medicaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program. That is more money to pay interest on our debt this year than we will spend on education, homeland security, transportation, and veterans benefits combined. It is more money in one year than we are likely to spend to rebuild the devastated gulf coast in a way that honors the best of America.
And the cost of our debt is one of the fastest growing expenses in the Federal budget. This rising debt is a hidden domestic enemy, robbing our cities and States of critical investments in infrastructure like bridges, ports, and levees; robbing our families and our children of critical investments in education and health care reform; robbing our seniors of the retirement and
health security they have counted on.
Every dollar we pay in interest is a dollar that is not going to investment in America’s priorities. Instead, interest payments are a significant tax on all Americans—a debt tax that Washington doesn’t want to talk about. If Washington were serious about honest tax relief in this country, we would see an effort to reduce our national debt by returning to responsible fiscal policies.
But we are not doing that. Despite repeated efforts by Senators CONRAD and FEINGOLD, the Senate continues to reject a return to the commonsense Pay-go rules that used to apply. Previously, Pay-go rules applied both to increases in mandatory spending and
to tax cuts. The Senate had to abide by the commonsense budgeting principle of balancing expenses and revenues. Unfortunately, the principle was abandoned, and now the demands of budget discipline apply only to spending.
As a result, tax breaks have not been paid for by reductions in Federal spending, and thus the only way to pay for them has been to increase our deficit to historically high levels and borrow more and more money. Now we have to pay for those tax breaks plus
the cost of borrowing for them. Instead of reducing the deficit, as some people claimed, the fiscal policies of this administration and its allies in Congress will add more than $600 million in debt for each of the next 5 years.
That is why I will once again cosponsor the Pay-go amendment and continue to hope that my colleagues will return to a smart rule that has worked in the past and can work again.
Our debt also matters internationally. My friend, the ranking member of the Senate Budget Committee, likes to remind us that it took 42 Presidents 224 years to run up only $1 trillion of foreign-held debt. This administration did more than that in just 5 years. Now, there is nothing wrong with borrowing from foreign countries. But we must remember that the more we depend on foreign nations to lend us money, the more our economic security is tied to the whims of foreign leaders whose interests might not be aligned with ours.
Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘‘the buck stops here.’’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.
I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America’s debt limit”
Martial law or bust. One big happy forced labor camp, or as the enemy combatants call it, single employer.
Go ahead, make my day. Please Veto any possibility of government ever coming back online. I'm enjoying life for a change and wish it to go on that way.
I was too until they started screwing with the WWII vets. If these fucks continue down this path shit could get out of hand.
I was too until they started screwing with the WWII vets. If these fucks continue down this path shit could get out of hand.
Maybe it's time.
The Republicans in the House need to get these bills up to the Senate as soon as possible. That way the blame either transfers to Reid and the other Democrat senators who refuse to bring them to a vote, or to Obama who will veto them. A policy statement is useless and worthless - make him veto the bills. Besides, the policy is NOT set in stone - the wiggle room is that Obama mentions specific bills - so just change the numbers!
Disregard the idle threats of a veto. Move Forward.
The entire 20 minutes of yesterday’s narcissist Ms. Cleo readings will blow away all past acting as a World Leader authority out the window. Piecemeal everything, the public will finally see what was always suspected. . It’s so much easier to hide fraud in one big number, opposed to itemizing each cost. Fuck you Barry!
And as usual the rasist retoric flourish here, in this fora, and in the republican media. Shame on you. World is watching the Naked Emperor falling. Good luck America
I remember when Bill Clinton wanted a "line item veto" privilege that would allow him to take every bill from congress and just cross out the shit he didn't like but approve whatever he did like.
Liberals thought it was a swell idea and no one could convince them that this would make the president a practical dictator since congress would end up sending bills with every combination of everything for the president to choose from.
I cannot for the life of me understand why regular citizens cannot see 5 seconds into the future when they take sides on issues like the debt ceiling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0lFyFJeZSY
Such a liberal tactic being used against Harry Reid