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Are House Republicans Starting To Fold?
A growing number of House Republicans are voicing support for a clean CR and as Bloomberg reports with House Democrats, the 17 Republicans would have enough to votes to pass such a bill. As Politico notes, the fear appears to be that Congressional Republicans are in danger of morphing into the anti-Obamacare party rather than one devoted to fiscal conservatism and cutting out-of-control federal spending. The 'angle' appears to be, confirmed by Rep. Peter King (NY), Mario Diaz-Balart (FL), and Richard Hanna (NY), that “the CR is about spending. It’s the spending, stupid. We actually won 100 percent there," rather than obscure victory with an Obamacare focus. So far Boehner has shown no willingness to bring such a 'clean' bill to the floor.
Via Bloomberg,
Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart, R-Fla., tells Miami Herald he would vote for clean continuing resolution that maintained spending reductions.
Rep. Richard Hanna, R-N.Y., tells Utica Observer-Dispatch he would also back clean bill.
17 Republicans combined with all House Democrats would be enough to pass clean CR.
There is no indication House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, willing to bring such a bill to floor or that Republicans who say they’d vote for it will push Boehner to do so
“We’ve obscured a lot,” said Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.). “We’ve obscured our victory on the spending level, and we obscured the failures of Obamacare on its first day. … We should show what we got.”
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“Let’s remember what the [continuing resolution] battle is about,” said Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart (R-Fla.). “The CR is about spending. It’s the spending, stupid. We actually won 100 percent there.”
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“There’s three battles going on right now,” said Rep. Peter Welch (D-Vt.). “One is the debt ceiling, the other is keeping the lights on and the third is the government funding level. And the Democrats are going to win on the first two but we’re losing on the third.”
“This is a much lower number than most Democrats feel they can support,” he continued. “If you’re focusing on the budget number, this is definitely a win for [Republicans].”
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Pussys
This is why I'm Libertarian-this nonsense happens we kick you out. Make the right fucking choice losers.
So long as K-street exists, you have no "choice", but nice to see another optimist.
PUSSIES!!!
Hand in your training bras on the way out.
Might as well go help them build the barrier at the WW2 memorial. Perhaps just a little of the greatest generation will rub off on you as you do your best to keep them out.
According to OpenSecrets.org, Rep. Peter King (NY), Mario Diaz-Balart (FL), and Richard Hanna (NY) each have major contributions from the Finance, Insurance and Real Estate sector. Peter Kings largest contributor is JP Morgan and The American Bankers Association is a very large contributor to both King and Balart. Hanna, who is relatively new on the scene, has KKR (Henry Kravis) as his largest benefactor.
Who the hell is responsible for all this clenleness?
Do Not Worry: The John McCanuses & Lindsey Nancy Grahams will guarantee this kabuki dance that is part & parcel of the false left-right paradigm ends with the hydra-headed beast that is BIG GOVERNMENT resumes its ordinary, parasitic, debt accumulating, tragically inefficient operations SOON.
History's largest army that is comprised of 23,000,000 federal, state & local government "workers," most of whom are overcompensated, over fringe-benefited & massively incompetent, and who are doing the equivalent of what 5,000,000 private sector workers would be capable of, WILL NOT BE DENIED THEIR RIGHTFUL PLACE AT THE TAXPAYER/DEBT SERF TROUGH - don't ya' know?
East coast traitors. Dehorn the RINOs!
Republicans are so stupid. Do they think they will actually get credit for the "budget"? By the time the next election rolls around democrats will never utter the word sequester and all they will talk about is how responsible Obama has been with the budget.
Peter King = Dick Majesty
Isn't it funny how they find enough "essential personnel" to take on the Walker Brigade? Good thing the old boys aren't armed ... they have less to lose now than when they stormed the beaches at Normandy and Iwo Jima.
I think Boehner has a 100% track record of folding and 'bending over' to the Democraps. That dude is a joke. As despicable as Stretch Pelosi is, you know where she stands.
It's all one party. Fully owned and operated by special interests. Government is a shame. The illusion of choice is yours.
left and right, two hands on the same corrupt body.
The larger point is that doing the "Right Thing" makes you Un-Electable to the Corps who funded you in the first place. Moar Money replaces anyone of these cockbites.
... but... wahhhh... they're saying such mean things about us on CNN!
-Republican congressfucks
Republicans are the "Stupid Party".
Democrats are the "Evil Party".
That's true, and if you say it the other way around, it's still true.
1000+ to
Republicans are the "Stupid Party".
Democrats are the "Evil Party".
and there you have it. Everyone wins and loses.
except regular people. We lose no matter what 'agreement' is in the script.
WTF kind of attitude is this? "Wins", "loses"? Such assholes. Do these pricks ever sit down and sort out "right" and "wrong"?
This shutdown is a great thing. The US should do it for 30 days a year, without paying ANY government employees.
I will call your 30 days and raise you 180 days.
(Or just right-size the federal, state & local unit of government workforce to a more sane & far more efficient number that's at least 33% smaller than present.)
Why stop at 30 days?
Yeah, next best thing to having a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution.
a) Politico is a Democratic Party press organ
b) Republicans folding is priced in, as I mentioned the day of.
Shocked, I'm SHOCKED, I say!
The show must go on! Republicans =/= Conservatives. They are the opposite side of the same coin of democrats. And as we have seen MULTIPLE times, any promise to "find" spending cuts, or "trim" the budget never materializes.
Peter King is just a tremendous scumbag.
You beat me to it. Along with tweedledee and tweedledumb in the senate.
I would have said "douchebag" ... and his ugly friends in the Senate, Sillius Soddus and Biggus Dickus
That's an insult to scumbags everywhere.
Old and out of touch with reality RINO douche is more appropiate.
Eventually all will fold as the alternative is a semi-immediate realization of the Truth, what is the Truth? That the system is not sustainable long-term and the walking unfunded liabilities will have to start to be liquidated. Of course, it's going to happen one day anyway, but nobody wants the finger pointed at them.
the AmeriCo BK crawls back into the shadows...
for now
"That the system is not sustainable long-term..."
There's the answer that seems to elude most people. The good ol' days are long gone and it's a crappy road ahead no matter which path they choose. Regardless, we can count on dems and repubs to take good care of their wealthy and powerful buddies while by stealing what they want from everyone else.
"The CR is about spending. It’s the spending, stupid. We actually won 100 percent there.”"
Funny how when Bush and the republicans held control of the white house and both chambers of congress, they spent money like drunken sailors too!! They have only been eclipsed by Obama, but up to that point, they were the out of control spenders. Now they suddenly have religion on spending????? Pffft!!
Bush? Shit, where were they during Nixon?
Your quote is why the TEA party came into existence. It's the TEA party holding up the red/blue fascist ball lickers in Washington D.C.
There is only one party. For the banks, by the banks and in a "debt is money" system, sovereign debt must expand, or the ponzi dies, it's that simple folks.
"Sustainable growth" is an oxymoron.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/bank-americas-dead-drop-rick-perry-we-will...
remember this!
This is why I hate the Democrats and the Republicans.
They are all hypocrites. And the Republicans are doing a great job at destroying the reputation and image of conservatives/right wingers.
I highly suspect they are doing so to ensure that the image is so damaged that right wing ideals will never be accepted and voted for by the public as long as a democracy remains. Shame, Ron Paul was the best thing we had.
Your issue is with anyone in power....
Get over it...
Quite the contrary, I love power.
I just can't stand people who distort issues and the original intent. Of course, some people don't deserve to live in this world either and education/welfare have removed natural selection so we now see inferior species overpopulating the Earth.
Which I highly suspect you to be one of them inferiors. Oh! How would you survive! If you were subjected to natural selection, without the government paving a way for you to live!
Hitler, is that you?!
The name's Soros. Adolf Soros.
Could you clarify what you mean by "inferior species"?
Out of curiosity, do you have a copy of Mein Kampf close by? It certainly would seem so..
Easy, unproductive people, inefficient people, people incapable of throwing away prejudices, people who follow their emotions, the list goes on.
No, I don't have a copy of Mein Kampf but I do have a copy of "Illuminati - New World Order" in Hebrew.
Oh my....
Given your thinly veiled antisemitic remark and your statement about "throwing away prejudices", it would seem that you might be on your very own list of people that deserve to die...
I'll cut you a deal: You don't have to die for your cause, but you could simply stop polluting this web site with you comments...
Show me my antisemitic remark! Oh weakling!
Or you could remain in your parents basement hating on poor Hitler. Oh and BTW, you don't get to cut me a deal when I am paying for your food stamps and Obozocare.
I think I have just been Poe'd...
The purple party always wins.
The youngsters seem to be a bit confused over the bozo care. They apparently think if they "opt out" pay the fine, they're scot free.
Now we know why the IRS is training all the collection agents with automatic weapons.
All scripted. Create a crisis and solve it to prove to the sheep how much they need 'their government'.
one more round of golf and it's in the bag bitchez
They are fucking morons since they have the upper hand here. They can defund Obamacare without the Senate and White House approval and play the public opinion game at the same time. They just need to pass 2 bills. One for continuing resolution spending minus anything related to Obamacare then pass a seperate spending bill related strictly to Obamacare with the provisions no subsidies for and everyone in Congress, Federal Workers, Supreme Court and White House have to enroll in the public exchanges (no exceptions, no private insurance, if it government run exchanges are good enough for the peons it is good enough for the bureaucrats and all their support people) in turn for funding in that bill and dare them to shoot it down.
As stated here
http://www.libertyunderfire.org/2013/09/authority-to-refuse-obamacare-fu...
You do this you box the Democrats and White House into a corner including the blame portion.
But they won't do it because this is not about 2 party politics but 1 party politics and trying to destroy in the public eye's the controlled opposition while making it look like they are putting up a fight.
Not only that all them that collection pensions, the healthcare portion is also tied into Obamacare aka no private insurance afterwards if you want to collect that pension once you retire. It would solve the double dipping pension payment for health insurance problem by doing this and not just government pensions but all pensions if they go into a state system afterwards or some union based job in the private sector.
As stated before.
Actual Obamacare National Hotline directly from the Succubelius' mouth herself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Gx_nu5WDYR8
1-800-318-2596
1-800 F1U-CKYO
or in plain english 1800 fuck you.
To be fair and mentally unbalanced here is the exemption list. It reads like who's who of political donors if you go to opensecrets.org to crosscheck the names.
http://obamacareaca.com/aca-exemptions/
More on the controlled opposition aka the state media. Follow the fucking money kids.
http://www.wnd.com/2013/07/fox-news-parent-company-funneling-money-to-dems/
The popular perception in America is that while most major media networks lean left, Rupert Murdoch’s News Corporation – owner of Fox News, the Wall Street Journal and New York Post, for example – is a bastion for conservatives.
The record of News Corp’s campaign contributions, however, doesn’t paint the same picture.
According to data accumulated from the Federal Election Commission by the Center for Responsive Politics and published on OpenSecrets.org, the total contributions by News Corp political action committees, employees and their families favored Democrats by a more than 2-to-1 margin in the 2012 election.
Similarly, News Corp contributions favored Barack Obama over challenger Mitt Romney by a better than 5-to-1 margin.
All by itself, News America Holdings, News Corp’s political action committee, was more “fair and balanced” in its contributions but still granted 52 percent of its more than $300,000 spent on federal elections to Democrats and 48 percent to Republicans.
The top three recipients of campaign cash from News Corp in 2012 were, in order, the Democratic National Committee, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and Democrat presidential incumbent Obama.
Thus far in spending toward the upcoming 2014 mid-term election, News Corp is still favoring Democrats with a reported 62 percent of its total campaign donations.
Furthermore, News Corp’s preference for Democrat candidates isn’t actually new. Going back to 1990, News Corp contributions have favored Democrats in nine of 13 election cycles.
The numbers tend to swing even farther left during presidential years, as News Corp contributions have preferred Obama over Romney by a 5-to-1 margin in 2012, Obama over Republican John McCain by 3-to-1 in 2008 and the same margin in favoring Democrat Al Gore over Republican George W. Bush in 2000.
News Corp is listed by OpenSecrets.org as a “heavy hitter,” meaning it is one of the 140 biggest overall donors to federal elections since the 1990 election cycle.
By comparison, the Walt Disney Company, owner of ABC and ESPN and also a “heavy hitter,” favored Democrats over Republicans by a 3-to-1 margin in 2012 and Obama over Romney by more than 8-to-1. Disney has also favored Democratic candidates in every election since 1990.
Comcast, owner of NBC and MSNBC, is a significantly larger and more diversified company, and its total contributions dwarf both Disney and News Corp. Of the over $5 million its affiliated companies and individuals gave to campaigns in 2012, roughly $3 million went to Democrats and $2 million went to Republicans. Contributions favored Obama over Romney 3-to-1. Comcast companies and employees have contributed more to Democrats than Republicans in eight of the last 13 elections.
News Corp founder Murdoch, however, hasn’t followed his company’s patterns. Records show of the over $800,000 total he and his most recent wife, Wendi, have contributed cumulatively since 1990, 83 percent has landed in Republican hands. In 2012, the couple donated $73,500 to Republican candidates and only $5,000 to Democrats.
Other News Corp executives, though, have led the charge to the left. Peter Chernin, News Corp’s president and chief operating officer from 1996-2009, and his wife, Megan, have sent 87 percent of their contributions to Democrats since 1990.
News Corps’ film division, 20th Century Fox, has leaned most heavily on the scales, sending over $365,000 to Democrats in 2012, compared only $1,500 to Republicans.
Employees of news outlets themselves, like Fox News Channel, the Wall Street Journal and New York Post, tend to make very few campaign contributions, often because of company policies forbidding it. Less than $10,000 was contributed in 2012 from employees of the three news outlets combined, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.
Here is moron controlled opposition. The head moron himself.
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=0B949373-4D76-4622-8CE7-2233...
With the federal government nearing shutdown, House Speaker John Boehner stood on the House floor Monday and called on his colleagues to vote for a bill banning a “so-called exemption” that lawmakers and staffers receive for their health insurance.
“Why don’t we make sure that every American is treated just like we are?” Boehner asked, seeking to prohibit members of Congress and Capitol Hill aides from getting thousands of dollars in subsidies for their health insurance as they join Obamacare-mandated insurance exchanges.
Yet behind-the-scenes, Boehner and his aides worked for months with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.), and others, to save these very same, long-standing subsidies, according to documents and e-mails provided to POLITICO. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) was also aware of these discussions, the documents show.
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Fuckin' A, man. Was just starting to enjoy the shutdown and talk of doom.
Do you support Tweedle-Dee or Tweedle-Dum? What a choice for the American voters!
"It's a two party system, you have to vote for one of us!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAT_BuJAI70
This is the man who keeps the most liberal House Republican Chris Gibson up at night
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKsq4d889lk
Libtard
Party of fiscal conservatism. WTF. That's a Joke; right?
If Boehner brings up a clean CR with Obamacare for a vote, the next vote should be for a replacement Speaker.
Useless fucks they are starting to win this issue. Meanwhile that so called Clean CR increases military spending by 19 billion dollars. Thay are breaking the Budget Control Act just passed last year. These politicians all suck,. they got no balls, they have no fiscal discipline. This whole phucking economy is going to collapse because every last one of these bastards sold us down the river.
Rant/off
They're all obviously just getting high and drunk...this shitshow is so fake it shouldn't even fool a retard, but that's the avg level of our nation today.
FOOTBALL COMIN 2 days YEAYYYYYYYY!!!
Football starts tonight. At least the NFL does.
Unless you are talking about soccer. And really, who cares about soccer?
So all it takes is -100 DOW points and 'the opposition' folds....wonderful fake shitshow we've got here.
The shift to a spending focus is just a red herring. Once you let Obamacare go through you will never have control over spending or debt.
I have to laugh when these guys say, "If this were a secret ballot, I would vote differently."
Are they representing their constituents or not?
Are they admitting to voting against the will of their constiuents or not?
I would love to see one of them "stand up" and vote for what they believe in. One way or the other. Then we will see how their constiuents feel next November.
If these guys suddenly grew some balls, they would not know how to sit down. So they are more comfortable being sheep or pawns or pussies. Take your pick.
Yep, that sums it up....
That and the fear of getting Tea Partied in the primary by some whackadoo bankrolled by the Kochs et al...
I'm neither democrat nor republican, but there's just too much anti-obamacare momentum at this point. This article isn't taking into account the cost-- which many republicans must surely already know-- of backing down now against such a massively destructive game changer as "affordable" health care, so called. If not now, then it will be far too late at any other time, and the republicans lose permanently.
All this is interesting to watch, but the Great Reset that's looming is going to clean house on all this trash.
Surrender George Washington......don't you realize you're going against the king?
I admit to being momentarily baffled by your inference : ). An apt analogy, though.
Another optimist, good to see.
Yes, I'm a staunch advocate of Creative Destruction : ) Hope lies in nothing less at this point.
I don't even see why we have a GOP anymore. We basically have two dem parties as it stands. RINOs have destroyed the GOP.
They need to die off like the Whigs...then all attention can be directed at the Dem's...
But by then it will be well past too late...
FUBAR!
How do you figure? In the 1990's the Republicans in congress proposed a nationwide health care system that included an individual health insurance mandate as an alternative to "HillaryCare", and the Democrats opposed it, calling it a giveaway to the insurance companies. Today, the Democrats are pushing for this program and the Republicans are doing everything they can to stop it. If anything, the country has shifted one whole notch to the right, with today's Democrats being ideologically identical to the 1990's Republicans.
The Republicans' entire problem is incredibly simple yet none are so blind as those who will not see.
1. They are quite obviously the party of the rich. Whether or not this was so in the past, it is undeniably so today.
2. They have worked tirelessly to make the rich richer but fewer in number as they stomp on the less rich to do so.
The end game for them is catering to the despotic whims of a single zillionaire sociopath and wondering why they can't win any unrigged elections that may be left.
Perhaps it would be wiser of them to promote policies that might lift all boats instead of just a few yachts...
Fuck these cunts.
Strip them of clothes.....herd them into the streets...and fire hose them down until their skins come off
Ignore the fact that medical care is 16% of US GDP. We can become France if we put our minds to it!
or the fact the financial "products" (of mass destruction) are 30% of the GDP. At least I can see the real value in medical care, would mind enlightening us as to the real value of all that paper-pushing?
Medical care largely being poison pills to mask symptoms rather than cure... and the maintenance of sick and dying people at the expense of the healthy.
Bullshit. I have a damn good orthopedic surgen.
Now matter how you cut it, health care is part of the service economy. It requires the creation of wealth elsewhere to pay for it...
The fact that the US HC industry is ~17% of of GDP, basically twice the fraction of any other industrialized country should tell you that there are a lot of people getting rich off of the vig....
Edit: Here is nurses/midwifes per 1000 people...
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.MED.NUMW.P3?order=wbapi_data_value_2010+wbapi_data_value&sort=desc
Here is spending per capita
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.XPD.PCAP/countries?order=wbapi_data_value_2011+wbapi_data_value+wbapi_data_value-last&sort=desc
Here is spending as a fraction of GDP
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.XPD.TOTL.ZS/countries?order=wbapi_data_value_2011+wbapi_data_value+wbapi_data_value-last&sort=desc
According to the latest data from the Commerce Department, the financial sector now accounts for 8.4 percent of the United States’ Gross Domestic Product, “eclipsing the peak it hit in 2006.”
Think Progress
They have to fold, it is clear to everyone that they do not have a viable position. Bluff and bluster will only take a 2-3 off-suit hand so far...
Newt Gingrich...it led to Clinton's reelection; and to Monica Lewinsky; but that was collateral D.
It led to NG's political demise. History repeats; but in the context of a financial situation that makes the US admin/congress house of cards even more fragile as this IS a world crisis.
Yes, this is not 1995 anymore vis a vis the economy...
Boehner is in his very own version of the Kobyashi Maru...
If Obamacare continues you can throw out all "gains" on spending levels (I say "gains" as the spending levels are nothing more than already agreed upon sequestration levels). Connecting vast numbers of our populace to the "morphine drip" of socialized medicine should about do it for the American experimant.
Did you come up with this all by yourself?
as it was written
we shall hang the Tea Party out to dry in the 10th month of the 13th year of the 21st century
and so Boehner went forth and led his tribe to the gates of Babylon and with a stick marked a dotted line in the dirt daring the one named Barack to cross it
but treacherous bastard that he was he had plotted with the one named Barack that certain of his tribe whom they both detested be destroyed
those who were detested were called to defend Boehner's dotted line in the dirt but in the night Boehner ordered the rest of his tribe to retreat and join with the one named Barack
and so it came to pass that certain of Boehners tribe were too few in number and being surrounded they were defeated and ridiculed
the treacherous Boehner and the one named Barack joined together and so it came to pass in the 14th year of the 21st century that certain ones in Boehner's tribe departed and began a new Tribe
and the one named Barack laughed and laughed and his followers joined him and laughed and Boehner and his tribe joined them and laughed
and in the 14th year of the 21st century the people spoke and Boehner's tribe was reduced in number and it too was defeated by the one named Barack
The Tea Party isn't going anywhere. Who is in the process of becoming irrelevant and hanging themselves will be the Republican party
Too bad the Tea Party is a money-soaked, spy-riddled, and compromised "movement" rather than an actual political party.
Nice to see that a few people here get it...
Ha ha-you wish.
The Repub party is being reborn with REAL constitional conservatives and a dash of libertarian. Crue, Rand Paul, Mike Lee, L Gouhmert and more are actually STANDING FOR THE PEOPLE who f-ing hate the 0bamacare powergrab.
What remains is to get rid of the f-ing old boy RINO sellouts-that will happen in the 2014 mid-terms. Then maybe we can get back to gov't of, by and for the people instead of the f-ing fascists we have now.
Hee hee...
Louie "Fucknutz" Gohmert....
I can sleep at night knowing that he is rooting out the MB in the adminstration...
you sound like you are planning to play Chingachgook's part in that Fenimore remake.
A new tribe that doesn't take a bribe! Now that would be a gibe at Obama-Iroquois land.
If the Rs were serious, they have lots of options to keep the heat on:
1. Pass CR with Obamacare fully implemented without Obama's unlawful exemptions. If the Ds table or reject, they are discredited, and if it passes the Rs show what happens under Obamacare before 2014 elections.
2. Push the shutdown a month, then pass a CR without back pay for furloughed federal workers. Ds are then forced to choose between Obamacare and paying their voters/federal workers.
3. Call the Ds bluff and allow the shutdown and debt ceiling limit to collapse the system and sort it all out in the 2014 elections. Let the people feel the real pain, finally force them to pay attention, and work towards a winner take all election in 2014.
I'd love to see the third option taken seriously. I'm tired of the charade and would rather see this sorted out once and for all.
I imagine the Rs will cave. Then they lose 2014. Then Obama has two years of single party control to finish off the country.
Petulant children are rarely if ever serious....
red is blue and blue is red, it is all bluster.
Can't all of this end with a handful of reporters actually doing their job and asking a few relevant questions. Such as , You have stated "blah blah in the past" Now you seem to be on the opposite side of what you have said..your biggest contributors are so and so and so and so...Is this why you changed your vote?
Here is some of those weak hands if you want to call them and leave them a message.
Rep. Pat Meehan (R-Pa.) 202-225-2011
Rep. Scott Rigell (R-Va.) 202-225-4215
Rep. Jon Runyan (R-N.J.) 202-225-4765
Rep. Mike Fitzpatrick (R-Pa.) 202-225-4276
Rep. Lou Barletta (R-Pa.) 202-225-6511
Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.) 202-225-7896
Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) 202-225-2523
Rep. Charlie Dent (R-Pa.) 202-225-6411
Rep. Frank Wolf (R-Va.) 202-225-5136
Rep. Michael Grimm (R-N.Y.) 202-225-3371
Rep. Erik Paulsen (R-Minn.) 202-225-2871
Rep. Rob Wittman (R-Va.) 202-225-4261
Rep. Frank LoBiondo (R-N.J.) 202-225-6572
Rep. Randy Forbes (R-Va.) 202-225-6365
Rep. Jim Gerlach (R-Pa.) 202-225-4315
Rep. Leonard Lance (R-N.J.) 202-225-9460
Notice how they are grouped geographically.
Wow, only one from flyover country? (assuming you don't count PA)
I don't understand why the Repubs are doing anything at all.
They are the fiscally conservative party and by forcing the government shutdown, they have managed to cut all unneccessary government spending in one fell swoop.
If I were them, I would just be kicking it in the Capitol building and having a cold one.
Their line is that America has too much debt and we need to cut spending to stop making more debt. They just cut lots of spending, put the blame on the Dems, and yet don't seem to realize it.
Wow...
The Repubs being fiscally conservative... Now that is truly rich...
What fucking planet did you just arrive from?
I convinced that cocksucker King is a mole for the Dem. Party! That worthless turncoat could get elected as a Repub. in Pelosi's(fruits and nuts) district...
gop imploding before our eyes. No need for Pres Obama or the Dems to do anything. Just watch the incompetent gop blow itself up. Just like the fiscal cliff.
The la la land crowd hoping for a huge disaster so that gold goes up is going to be very upset.
The Republican Party should sign a Clear Continuing Resolution (CR) immediately.
Beyond the above issue is a Matter so grave that it may well involve loss of our freedom and democracy! I made that statement at an assembly of citizens not long ago. “The Government and all Citizens must live by the same rules of a Federally Mandated Law equally with no exceptions.”
The reason this is vitally important is contained in many country’s history. Most Governments either become ineffective or are overthrown because of different treatment of “Favored Groups” over “Private Citizens’. At some point dissension occurs then deadly governmental repression responds. The Country deteriorates
The IRS as administrator of ObamaCare will pursue non-payment with Extra Constitutional powers. Shouldn’t that apply to all Citizens? The “Favored Groups” would avoid this pursuit. That causes splits between our citizens resulting in anger at Presidential Rule and Law itself. Will this president choose to protect the “Favored Groups” or the average Private Citizen?
Governments have fallen prey to this flawed concept. Monarch’s have been overthrown because difference in treatment of “Favored Groups” over the masses. Mao overthrew Chang with that very argument. Our founding Fathers especially President Jefferson warned us about this very dangerous selectiveness of Federal Control!
All “Favored Groups” must be included in ObamaCare and we will have assurance of a decent program! “Separate Treatment” under a nationally passed law should immediately be legally challenged as it may well destroy our Country!
If this mandated Insurance program is good for citizens why would “Favored Groups” not be included in a “National Law?” This is very dangerous to split our collective society. If we pass National health Care, why aren’t all citizens included and treated the same? Is it right for some to have this “Favored advantage”? NO!