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California Admits Obamacare Interest Was Inflated By Almost 8 Times
Remember all those headlines about the "milions" of people swamping the new Obamacare exchange sites and how that explained why the "glitches" appeared and how this proves the American people are so desparate for the insurance... well, the truth appears to be leaking out. As Politico reports, California’s health insurance exchange reported - wrongly - that it had received 5 million hits on its website the first day of Obamacare. State officials said the real number was only about a tenth of that, or 645,000. Is it any wonder that fewer Americans trust other Americans than ever before?
Dana Howard, a spokesman for Covered California, as the state exchange is known, said internal miscommunication about the numbers caused the error. “Someone misspoke and thought it was indeed 5 million hits. That was incorrect," the paper quoted him as saying.
California has an ambitious goal of signing up about 2 million people for Obamacare – a big chunk of the seven million the White House wants to get covered in the health insurance exchanges the first year.
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Like most states, California’s exchange had a rough first day, with computer problems and temporary halts to enrollment and online insurance shopping. Officials had cited the high volume e- the 5 million – as a reason the $313-million online system was so troubled. Glitches and delays persisted on Wednesday.
Federal officials have also been blaming higher than anticipated traffic for the snarls of the website of the federally-operated exchanges serving three dozen states.
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If interest can't be faked it can be compelled...
Some one mis-spoke so it's all OK.
Wait, did I say I did not have sex with that woman? I meant to say that I fucked her with a cigar and then got a blowjob. Sorry, misspoke.
Hitler also lie about the amount of member's in its Worker's (Nazi) party. Hitler was 555 when he really was 55.
On a positive note, Hitler didn't need a teleprompter.
Just like support for Pelosi and Feinstein. All a sham.
Jargon alert
Glitches are the new Green Shoots
To that end if one uses the word Glitches
it shoud be replaced with the word "Flaws"
That's flawesome!
Fubama!
Boris I say scrap Obombercare
Replace it with the Health Lottery....
Buy a ticket and see if Grandmother gets her pacemaker
Luck of the Draw Healthcare, coming to a clinic near you
Ummm... don't see any significant difference there.... YY
One key pillar of socialism is that there should be no lucky. Since as a society we can't afford a pacemaker for grandma, then nobody gets one. That's in contrast to an actual free market where grandma and her family have the initiative, drive, and sense of self worth to save and invest in real assets in order to have the pride to take care of their own needs, and charitably help those who are truly misfortunate, as opposed to were just being slackers in life.
Damn, then I guess my Scratch-off Pacemaker card is no good.
alright try and follow....say there were a bunch of people in line, like an apple event. just like an apple event....and rachel and her friends were in line...rachel in new york and 57 of her friends at the library in the other 57 states, start hitting keys....i would think that would fuck things up....
Kevin's going to be getting a 2nd computer on his desk. One to BUY MOAR STAWKS and the other to produce hits on O-Care exchanges.
In AmeriKa, economy is expand by over-statement of government bureaucrat.
All lies, all the time. I imagine the final days of the USSR resemble those of the USSA.
"It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is. If the--if he--if 'is' means is and never has been, that is not--that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement....Now, if someone had asked me on that day, are you having any kind of sexual relations with Ms. Lewinsky, that is, asked me a question in the present tense, I would have said no. And it would have been completely true." - Bill Clinton, the 1st Black President
truth malfunction
"The beatings will continue until interest improves."
People who don't have insurance are logging on because the vast majority of them think that they are going to sign up for "free" government healthcare. Guess what?
Not free? But, but, but,...
Obama to declair Republican Party as Terrorists and put the entrie lot in prision, News right after Roller Derby!
Another day, another leak exposing this Potemkin President. From all of the rigged polls, to the >50% fake twatter followers, to the Diebold election results... everything purporting this clown's 'popularity' is bullshit.
Taxation without truth-ification (or anything else).
Will there EVER be any justice for WE the people?
Not without an Article 5 amendment convention that could restore people and state rights...
I'm sorry, but that Rubicon has been crossed.
It's going to take an AR/AK convention to Restore the Constitutional republic.
AR more is accurate, but AK is jam less, cheap lower receiver make in simple metal shop. If Boris have choice, M-1 Garand because high caliber and last round ping!
Government lies? Shut the front door!
Well I sure don't want them entering through the back door.
What happens if I pull this loose string?
Ah they didn't lie. This is a downward revision. BLS does this with every report they release.
The lying isn't even the most egregious part of this.
$313 million for a website of one state exchange that can't even handle 650k people of traffic in one day, which any self-respecting porn site can handle with streaming video.
You can hire 2000 board-certified pediatricians for CA with a decade of training for $300 million dollars. Instead that money is spent on a website that barely works.
This country is going down the tubes hard and California leads the way.
So when do they start releasing the stats on how many people have signed up? That will be funny.......if you can trust the numbers......
I'm sure they'll be huge. You have to sign up just to get a quote.
Barry said that the new health care website was like using KAYAK.
http://www.kayak.com/
/LMFAO
Do I have to fax Kayak my last two years tax returns too?
I can't wait for the big celebration once the 1 billionth person signs up. I think they expect that around the end of November.
That would be more people than everyone in all 57 states.
pods
Not according to the BLS it won't be!
It must be all of those dead Democratic voters.....they will take up the slack..and want the subsidy too....and they will get it....
Kiss my ass Obama
1.800.FUCK.YO(u)
tell someone who CARES. the Affordable Care Act, moving life forward.
Cali should do what Tennessee is doing: They're now offering new, improved free ObamaSmartPhones to entice the FSA to sign up for ObamaCaress (aka frequent & brutal rectal exams):
http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/02/obamacare-phones-offered-to-health-ins...
"Say hello to Obamacare phones.
In Tennessee, those shopping on the new health insurance co-ops could end up with more than just some health insurance. They might even walk away with a free smartphone.
The Nashville Business Journal is reporting that Community Health Alliance, Tennessee’s Obamacare health insurance co-op, is using the prospect of a free phone to encourage folks to enroll:
Community Health Alliance, Tennessee’s health insurance co-op, is running a unique promotional program to drive enrollment in its plans for sale on the exchange: health insurance in exchange for a smartphone.
As part of its Community Health Connection Program, CHA is offering qualified individuals an LG Lucid 2 4G smart phone (or equivalent model), a phone plan and tech support, included as a cost of their health plan benefits. The phone plan includes unlimited talk, unlimited texting and 1.2GB of data.
The idea is to make it easier for providers and patients to stay connected, but it will also help CHA keep track of its member population, many of whom are expected to be new to the health insurance market.
“Members will have the phone number for their CHA representative pre-loaded in their phones and can quickly get answers to questions about their policies,” said CHA Chief Operating Officer Judy Slagle in a news release. “At the same time, we will be able to connect with our members by phone, by email or by text almost instantly with health tips and reminders.”
The co-op received a federal loan of more than $73 million.
scary
The idea is to make it easier for providers and patients to stay connected
Oh yea! Im sure thats going to be the primary use of their Obamaphone. And definitely why they need unlimited texting. Who doesnt text their doctor? Unlimitedly.
Unlimited minutes. Unlimited texting. 1.2GB of porn surfing data.
All for free, yo!
Is there an app for flash-mobs?
That's hilarious.
We can safely say that government has safely jumped the shark.
pods
Key word: "track."
Maybe it's because everybody mistakenly called 1-800 FUCK YOU instead of the actual Obama Care hot line:
1-800-FUCK-YO
1-800-318-2596
1-800-3(F) 8(U) 2(C) 5(K) 9(Y) 6(O).
http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/03/need-health-care-coverage-just-dial-1-...
Is this what they mean by negative interest rates??
Did the BLS compile these numbers ?
Why should we be suprised that anyone associated wth Obozo is a patholigal liar.
Looks like the launch of the steam powed Ipad is a failure.
Whocouldhaveknowed.
or this
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-ipads-taken-back-20130930,0,1120983.story
Here kids, we want you to use these tools to be "innovative", but you must use them the way we say to or else...
What the fuck? The Stazi would be proud.
Sanity is outside the mainstream. Live with it at your own risk.
Well doesnt Obama have millions of fake twitter followers? They probably just needed some insurance
I trust no one! I hope someone DDoS's these pricks.
I have been there and can tell you there is no need for any intervention. The site really sucks.
Chat is non-functional.
The Phone # is a hoot though!
Interesting.
The healthcare.gov website sucks.
1. When you try to login, you are sent to a waiting page.
2. When you try to login, you get bumped off the server as it timesout
3. If you get to create a profile it crashes almost everytime you enter data.
4. If you ask for help via chat, it does not work and you wait for no one.
5. If you call for help, you wait for no one.
6. If you complete profile, you have to verify identity, which crashes
7. They ask you to upload data proving ID and that crashes
8. You can call Esperion to verify ID and you wait
Solution: They should cancel health insurance plan for the company/programmers who created healthcare.gov and make them apply for healthcare via their own system. Then they would see what a clusterfuck healthcare.gov really is.
Sorry excuse for website and waste of taxpayers dollars!
Testing done by independent programmer!
Similar to what the Obamacare experience itself will be. The difference is that people won't be experiencing it from the comfort of their own homes but in the waiting rooms of hospitals, clinics and doctors offices. With hundreds or thousands other people. Other sick people.
I guess the good news is that the lines will not be 5 million deep. Just 652 thousand.
So thats OK.
Thank you Ying-Yang, that is truly chiecken soup for the soul.
We are liberals, we know what is best for you....ourselves will do something else.
California lying?
Next they'll tell us they don't have an immigration problem and that legal citizens of the caucasian persuasion are not Californicating white-bread hamlets of the Intermountain West.
Patrick: Liar, liar, plants for hire.
Sponge bob: It's pants on fire Patrick.
Patrick: Well you should know, liar.
they got confused and thought they were zerohedge for a moment there
Its becoming apparent to more and more people that lying is the best policy. All of the truly rich and successful people do it and especially our elected leaders. American competitiveness is now about who can tell the biggest lie without being called on it. The best part is that everyone knows that everyone is lying, yet no one seems to care.
The Greek philosopher Eubulides of Miletus who lived in the 4th century BC reportedly asked...
"A man says that he is lying. Is what he says true or false?"
The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help.
If you ain't lying. You ain't trying.
$313 million and they have a website that can't handle 1 million views? Amazingly well done!
I think what you mean is that fewer Americans trust government Americans than ever before.
$313 million for a website of one state exchange that can't even handle 650k people of traffic in one day, which any self-respecting porn site can handle with streaming video.
You can hire 2000 board-certified pediatricians with a decade of training for $300 million dollars. Instead that money is spent on a website that barely works.
This country is going down the tubes hard and California leads the way.
Maybe they used one of these handy services & pocketed the change and hoped no one would notice.
Porn website programmers could have created healthcare.gov at a fraction of the cost.
And while your waiting you would be entertained.
Sheeet, you'd be CURED!
Web-based sexual healing!
Divide 313 mil by 5 years that's $171k/day or about $3.76/per visitor yesterday. Google would go bust 10 times over if they ran their business like these fucks. The fucking government.
Don't know why everyone is bad mouthing the 800 # I already have it memorized. Now that is the most efficient thing government has ever done.
Wait til the announcement that there aren't enough "voluntary" sign ups to support the fiasco and a "bail in" happens.
In commie central only 645k people wanted Obamacare on the first day? Lulz?
No, the funny thing is that not only do less than a million commies want Obama care, but that their crappy web site could not handle the traffic.
How much did that cost you Californians?
How many of those "hits" were generated by frustrated members of the Free Shit Army tapping the refresh button over and over? LOL
How many of those hits were my friends, family, and me opening up multiple browser tabs on our computers trying to overwhelm that bitch?
good idea...hold on a sec..
CTRL T, CTRL T, CTRL T,...
THe official counters would have had more accurate numbers....but...shutdown.
Ahhh shit....are we back to the days where we discuss what we count as a "hit" and what is merely a presentation of a part of a page. Just fucking shoot me.
Its 2000 again. My dot com stocks have dropped like a rock and the EVP is trying to understand what a "hit" is versus a "unique" visitor.
Just. Fucking. Shoot. Me.
Socialists will take it over the cliff before surrendering.
Barry is in for a beating and he isn't even close to mid-terms to blame and save himself.
LMFAO!!!!
Here's a fucking anchor to help you keep floating Barry you asshole!!!!
One can imagine the conversation that went on this morning:
"What the fuck do you mean the 645K number is publicly available? Why in the Hell didn't you warn me before I made a fucking fool out of myself by claiming 5 million?"
If .gov had let the IRS run the development I garantee that all opportunities to sign up the sheeple would be sucessful. Too bad they will be involved in the enforcement action:
"Ignorance in the government is no excuse "
No further questions...
EXCLUSIVE: Less than 1 per cent of Web visitors are signing up for Obamacare on some state health exchange websites | Mail Online
Zero Enroll in New LA Plan on Obamacare's First Day | National Review Online
Less than 2% of the California population hit the website. Not signed up.
That hit rate is a little better than a direct mail marketing campaign. And apparently these people NEED health insurance.
This is only going to be unhealthy people signing up.
My wife tells me the reimbursement rates are so bad that her hospital doesn't want these patients under Obamacare. Even with the outrageous premiums and $10K deductibles. Sending all of the patients to the safety net hospitals.
This is so totally fucked up that it's delicious.
Any idea if the insurance can be terminated via change in law if republicans delay the mandate?
Catullus; here here. I look forward to watching this emission circle the bowl and disappear. As I said earlier, as an ex-white protestant patriotic taxpayer, I will seek out every means to evade this sheep-run. I am officially radicalized and I am sure I will not lack for company.
313 Mil for a website - typical govt budget that inflates costs 10x and gets subpar results. Look at any govt program that relies on computers/software - Everify is another.
My guess is the private sector could have built the whole entire thing (and it would be close to flawless) for 30-40 mil vs 300 mil. But when you have no one to answer to and the money is essentially unlimited this is what you get. Add into the mix that most in govt view excessive spending as a noble virtue that helps the economy and you get a disaster every time.
Hell, E-Verify couldn't even catch the Pretender in Chief.
Actually it did.
it usually takes about 3-4 years for an insurance company to find out how good a new program is, I predict Obamacare will be losing money hand over fist and demanding premium increases at their first financial reporting.
The 1% that did sign up, were really really sick and their premiums won't have a prayer of covering their expenses.
And the glitches in the system are all the fault of those gredy Republicans who did their best to underfund the development and implimentation. If only they hadn't been so short sighted, we would have saved billions of dollars and middle class, hard working Americans would all have quality health care that they could not afford before.
(that's pretty close to what the company line is going to be.)
Even these numbers are bogus. Figure half of the clicks were probably those in the news trying to get quotes to hype the program. Others were Liberals on the internet wanting to show how low their quotes are so they can brag about how great Obamacare is. Then you have tire kickers who already have insurance.
How many signed up yesterday? Give us that number Dear Government...
Just one more reason to work less and go to the beach moar often. There is gonna be a sweet spot for subsidized healthcare. The rest of you bitchez, log of ZH and get back to work.
Obombercare will spawn blackmarket healthcare.
Drug Cartels will add medical proceedures to clinics on the border.
Drugs, guns, women and pacemakers.. por las ovejas
Yes, by all means attempt to sign up and although you won't accomplish it your partial info will be sufficient to go in an IRS tickler file ... touche pas this monstrosity.
"Let a hundred flowers bloom".
I just tried the california health exchange. I have an existing "small" biz health plan and wanted to see how this would compare and check on how easy it would be to navigate etc.
I found a platinum plan that is better than the one i have, covers the same doctors that i have (stanford, palo alto) and is 33% cheaper. The insurance companies have been increasing our rates and reducing our benefits for the last three years. Disclosure: Our fanily income is in the top 1-2% range and we have an existing PPO plan. I can just imagine how well it is helping people in the lower income ranges. This is working and looks like the right way to go forward. I have a startup with sand hill VCs but am still looking at the bottom line and extremely frustrated at the insurance companies monopoly.