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Relentless Boehner: "This Isn't Some Damn Game" - Live Webcast
So "no end of the world", *BOEHNER SAID TO TELL REPUBLICANS HE WON'T ALLOW U.S. TO DEFAULT
but "no clean CR",*BOEHNER SAID TO TELL MEMBERS HE WON'T PUT CLEAN CR ON FLOOR
Riddle us that...
- *BOEHNER SAYS REID TOLD HIM NO NEGOTIATIONS UNTIL `WE SURRENDER'
- *BOEHNER SAYS HE HAS NO INTENTION OF `ROLLING OVER' ON SPENDING
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"No special treatment for anyone under the law". Heh.
Bohner as the spine slightly less stiff than a tampon string.
Obama's going to eliminate the debt ceiling by EO or "emergency powers" before this is all over. He in no way feels like he deserves to be constrained by it and he knows nobody's going to fight him on it if he does it.
The budget nobody could give a crap less about. Fight over it till you're as bloodied up as you like.
Or you know, allow a default for a day or two and then come in as the savior and raise it/get rid of it by himself... and Obamabots will worship him even more for that. The House will not impeach his ass nor will the Supreme Court rule that it was unconsitutional.
I think Boner finally realized that the Tea Party will be his worst nightmare if he caves.
The beatings will continue until moral improves
The Navel Orange speaketh... be afraid, very afraid.
A very likely scenario that has been hinted at repeatedly. Funny how the 14th Am. does not designate the executive as the one with the power to make sure debts/etc. are respected. Yet, they have their barrage of lawyers loyal to the Obama to put out disinformation. I'd argue that the house has a better claim than the executive or senate to raising the debt limit if this perverted line of thinking leads to any one particular branch laying claim to unilateral action.
Boner must be long spx puts
If the republicans rollover and take it up the ass on these issues they will be democrat bitchez forevermore.
Pimping the boner. It will happen.
Bhoaner: "This isn't some damned game, it's well rehearsed theater!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYT4KgsR-V0
I can't lose either way...either shit gets dialed back or the GOP dies...former isn't exactly a win, but it ain't a loss...and the latter is no loss at all...
Sorry, but neither of those outcomes will happen, as nothing can get dialed back (we're long past the point of no return), while the GOP, though wounded, still represents the only meaningful alternative for the millions of statists who detest the current flavor of state. In other words, divide and conquer wins again.
Meanwhile, all of this theatre will be used to blame the unavoidable collapse (any time now) assured by the actions of 2008 onward (or 1913 onward, for the purists out there).
They won't be Democrat bitches. Conservatives aren't going to suddenly vote for Democrats. The RINOs will just get ousted in the primaries.
How are moderates and independents are going to respond?
That's a great question.
You guys are discussing this like voting actually matters.
The use of RINO by repubs amuses me. The Republican party was founded and solidified its power under the premise of hyperpowered central authority by killing everyone who opposed them and funding it with cash made up from nothing. If this is the legacy that "conservatives" want, why bother opposing the current idiot?
A Republican In Name Only isnt a statist lackey of Uncle Sugar, its anyone hoping for a country resembling what it was founded as who somehow thinks that is a Republican goal. A belief that the Republican Party has ever stood against Statism is delusional- it gave birth to Leviathan.
Survey says wrong. You can blame the roots of globalism and extended central authority on Woodrow Wilson who was a Democrat. Everyone just went along with game after the fact. The Repubs didn't birth this beast. They are guilty of helping it thrive and grow after the fact but we all are in that regard.
Bullshit. You are aware that the Federal government killed hundreds of thousands long before Wilson was in office, yes? The Repubs started it during 1861-65, it goes back a helluva lot farther than Wilson. The globalist strain in the US did start with Wilson, but it was Ol' Honest Ape who started the "comply with the gubmint or die" tradition backed with paper money.
It is at least funny though to listen to Yankee repubs squalling as their beloved Federal Government grinds the descendants of its blue suited patsies into the dust- as if any other outcome were possible.
They replaced a system that enslaved some of the population with one that has the power to enslave all of the population, quite a victory for equality by the mighty Repubs.
Maybe it's time to give Chalky everything he wants and watch it collapse under the weight of his incompetence. And Fuck You Boehner, don't pretend you're not a spineless prick
it's a good thing they aren't under the law.
Boehner is a damn hypocrite.
John ‘Bailout’ Boehner cries, begs colleagues to vote FOR bank bailouthttp://blog.reidreport.com/2010/09/flashback-john-bailout-boehner-cries-...
He's only a hypocrite if you're gullible enough to believe a word he says.
I don't believe anything, but I can't ignore the fact how he votes.
Boner is a liar, there's no way out of 'default' whether now or later....all the coward is saying is he wants nothing to do with it himself.
Sell Mortimer sell!!!!!!!!
Oh, so they're going to re-open everything anyway so 'shutdown' is just completely meaningless scare tactics.
Buy Mortimer buy!!!!!!!
Eyes on the ball people - "Give me control of a nation's money supply, and I care not who makes it’s laws"
Eyes on the ball, debt ceiling. Treasury can't issue new bonds Bernake can't print money simple as that.
Boehner is an idiot. Debts will be paid first, then promises paid for. 14th says they will be paid (not questioned per the amendment).
All the graft and cheese they want to dole out will may not be paid out, but they are bound to pay the debt.
Thanks Johnny for telling us what your job is and that you are doing it.
Now here's a trophy showing just how "exceptional" you are.
Worthless paste-eaters.
pods
just thinkin this may all be a ploy to squeeze the debt ceiling raise out of congress' hands and into the sole control of the EO (and those who pull those strings).
can't wait for BigO to get up to the BigT and say he's justifying his Order/Edact because "It's right there written in the Constitution in the 14th Amendment."
...and there jumps the shark...again...
It could very well be a ploy (on both sides) to provide cover and move the debt ceiling to the Treasury, which is appointed. I'd bet a Krug that even the reps who don't want to raise the debt ceiling understand what the government is doing with debt expansion. Fuck, if I know it, they should.
They play fast and loose with the rules all the time, so my reliance on that rule structure might be flawed. But then again, I am subject to many more rules than they are.
Bottom line is that the aggregate debt needs to go up, and private expansion isn't cutting it. Toss in a gazillion in unfunded liabilities and you can see where they are going with the FRN. It is going to be devalued by creating many more of them.
pods
Graham Chapman quotes
I didn't have any intention of "rolling over" in regards to my wife's spending, either. In the end, I still rolled over. So will Boehner.
He said "in the end" and "rolled over".
we were wondering why the media has pretty much dropped yesterday's story on the person involved in the DC shooting and the lockdown in Congress.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/everything-we-know-about-miriam-ca...
Mentally ill people can get cars? Oh shit, now they are going to want to take our cars away...
All I really care about right now is killing ObamaCare.
Keep the goobermint shut down and don't give in. 88% of our current gov is non-essential.
Here is the lovely Lauren Lyster with David Stockman discussing OBOMBiCARE (sorry, no legs)
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/obamacare-worst-law-passed-f...
Sure, who needs Democracy anyways? Are you sure killing ObamaCare is all you want? Has our civilization descended to the point where all we care about is essentials? Is agressive war essential? Is massive spying essential? And who determines essentials? You? A splinter group of the Congressional majority? Is health insurance the one, most important, non-essential?
The current health system of the US is a shame. Stockman is at least consistent what he demands, but not Boehner. If we did not have this massive spending and debt loan, everyone could afford to pay his medical bills.
@Donsluck: Who pays for this Republic? Who participates in the decisions required for its maintenance? Surely not just your party! How can a democratic republic survive at all so that we may debate these millenia-old questions yet again if one party insists on spending more, much more, than the ability of the underlying economy to support? The citizens of our nation have descended to the point that too many no longer hesitate to call on their fellow citizen to pay for their every modern civilizational whim, whether their fellow citizens approve or can afford it. This is as much about the power of the state to regulate and dictate. You seem willing to accept the state mandate we all purchase a product administered by bureaucracy and enforced by the Internal Revenue Service. I am not willing to concede my right not to be coerced by the state into purchasing a product I don't want or need, especially when Congress exempts themselves from its costly effects. I am glad to have the Repubs finally grow a set and fight for some fiscal sanity and try to roll back some of the ridiculous leftist tripe that passes for Law these days.
There's nothing I enjoy more than a raging boehner!
it's all Fun and Games.. until someone gets poked in the eye.
The brown eye?
Not good if they make your brown eye blue.
pods
Or squirted.
everyone knows the Republicans will give in--the weasels always do. Americans need a new political party!
We have many. Don't vote blue or red, vote Green!
they really ought to just fight it out in a cage.
Someone cue Smokey Robinson and the Miracles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2kxlZDOHeQ
The President has been so embarassed lately this is all he has left..his ego at this point cannot take another defeat..in the end however if the GOP sticks to their guns I have no question he will. The public could not care less about this shutdown...they know these "public servants" are paid considerably more than them for a fraction of the work.
That is why they shut down all the visible government "functions" like parks, memorials, etc.
They need to maximize the pain felt or people might see that the government really doesn't do much.
pods
Let me predict that Boehner will cave in and tout some vague Democrat promise of future spending cuts as a Republican victory. History repeats.
let the fucking u.s fucking default.
who gives a shit, in the end if thats what it will take to collapse this economy fully, let it be.
at end of day , we will be a lot better off, and maybe we can fucking start a real recovery down the road.
wipe out all the bacteria in the system
Won't allow default? Pass a bill to force the treasury to pay interest on the debt first... don't raise the debt ceiling = no default!
But of course you won't do that you piece of shit... you're already planning to cave...
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/326535-restless-house-republicans-look...
But those around Boehner also say he’s interested in “going big” to resolve the crisis — perhaps by striking the grand bargain that eluded him during talks with President Obama in 2011.
Boehner has quietly met with members of his conference this week, and hosted around 20 GOP lawmakers for lunch on Thursday. During that meeting, Boehner indicated he prefers reaching a big deal to avoid default and open the government.
“He’s really trying to find the pathway that not only gets the government up and running again but really allows for an opportunity to get some major things done beyond that,” a GOP lawmaker close to the Speaker told The Hill.
Grab your butt cheeks, it's coming.
They don't need to pass anything to prioritize debt payments. That is taken care of by the 14th amendment.
Everything else is just a promise. The 14th says that debts incurred will not be questioned.
So they really cannot default. They can only hack at programs that at best will get them tossed out of office, or at worst will get them swinging from a lamp post.
pods
I hear what you're saying Pods.....but.....can't they just ignore that part of the 14th, sort of like they pretty much ignore every other word in the Constitution?
Not saying that's the 'ethical' move to make, but at this point.....ethical is a party-joke word for the gaggle of parasites infesting the Capitol.
Granted, repudiating the debt would get them shanked by the Banskter Mafia, which is why they won't do it, and why they ALWAYS insist that PRIORITY NUMBER ONE is to 'pay the interest on our national debt'. Cuz you know, the chilrenz and jobz.
Fucking worthless, spineless, ball-less bottom-feeding douche tool.
It takes delusion on a Biblical scale to call this anything other than a complete capitulation.
It is a game...Grand Theft Auto(matic).
I think this is a flushing out process, seeing what is really going to happen. It is possible to pay all the ongoing interest payments with current income (taxes) so there is no need to default. However, the spending on many areas will need to be curtailed or stopped all together. I think Boehner is just re-stating what is known...that there is no crisis...that excessive spending will end, now.
I think the 16 years of Continuing Resolutions (CRs) have reached a rubicon.
Get a real budget and approve it, now.
Whatever happens, its better now than (20 years?) later.
Keep and extend government shut down. Who needs them.
I wish Putin was speaker.
What's wrong with shrinking government and living within it's means? At this rate we all lnow the government can never pay back it's debt in current dollars.
So it's the Fed's crash the US dollar plan. Go Zimbabwe!
So how about congress pass a FREAKING budget rather than a "clean CR"?
That would be the first time in five years
This isnt a game boneher??
You perma-tanned fucking tosspot, you are playing with real peoples lives having never lived a real productive one of your own you filthy, lying piece of shit. Tell you what you fucking arse wanker, I have seen more manliness in my long dead grandmothers right tit than what you posses. Now fuck off, and crawl back under that orange stone you came from you nation wrecking cunt.
;-)
Appologies bitchez,
Bonemans mother is on the board, watch your mouths. (or keys).
:-P
Bring back dueling for Congress.
Reid gets Boehner. McConnell gets Reid. Then he gets Pelosi too. Then ... etc.
And film it as reality TV.
Or, we could just introduce term limits ...
I regret that I have only one guillotine to use for my country.
The dumbocrats held the Bush Tax Cuts hostage at another budget battle. Why can't the Republicans hold Obamacare hostage?
this an all be over quickly and easily people if we call in hellicopter ben to make it rain on wasington. Cause what the world needs right now is moar money!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h36OGYBWVs
These are just mediocre actors. It is a shame. I mean... where's Marlon Brando? Or Arnold? Did he not promise to come back?
Default is the only solution until hyperinflation.
"What's wrong with shrinking government and living within it's means? At this rate we all lnow the government can never pay back it's debt in current dollars."
Well, for starters the Fed (member banks) wouldn't be able to make a profit from a balanced budget that required no "borrowing".
I do enjoy watching Boehner keep shooting himself and his party in the foot.
Wingers HOOOooo !