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Does The NSA Think You're A Terrorist?
When the NSA sorts through American communications to find terrorists, what is their accuracy in identifying one?
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Because the Banking Cartel, Tooth fairy, Santa Claus, and the Easter Bunny are dong their money laundering transactions at night. No different than common burglars.
For head fakes.
You are exactly right.
Sigint, from which this started, was directed at signals traffic by opposing military forces. Even when you can't decode their messages (most of the time with sophisticated military opponents), it is still useful. Large forces can't be mobilised and moved without a lot of communication, concentrated in time, and the locations of the communication is informative.
But small forces engaged in asymmetrical conflict don't need a mass of communication and they don't need the communication concentrated in time. Now they know all electronic communication is monitored they will no longer use it (except for FBI plants and stooges), or if they do it will be with totally innocuous, previously agreed codes in the clear ("Hi Harry, are you coming to dinner Thursday?").
Anyone with the wit of a gnat would understand this. So the people behind spending the hundreds of billions on NS:
a) have less than the wit of a gnat, or
b) they are seriously into self aggrandisement at the expense of the US taxpayer, or
c) are on a power trip that they have to know is a massive breach of the US constitution and a betrayal of the US population, about which they could not care a fig.
I suspect (a) is false, but (b) and (c) both apply. Option (a) probably applies to the Congress critters that support this abomination.
Lets all pile into a "66" VW luv bus. Zero Hedge> CNBS segment: Sunday October 6th. All pussies welcome. Free beans and weenies!
BITCHEZ For 'King Georges' sake, the comments on this article are whimpified!
I still have coming the ass whipping that I got away with twenty years ago. Told that crowd of bouncers that followed me to my car...."I have'nt had stitches in a long time. I'm getting way too pretty. Bring it mofos!" Not sure why they did'nt.
But I have the same message for these cocksuckers. What they cannot take away from me is more important than what they can.
it's bad you know...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9naBXjcAPNQ
Bad
At this point the NSA has to worry about being considered terrorists that are involved in a plot to take over the world.
They have pissed off a lot of corporations and Nations.
The "analysis" is nine kinds of garbage, shows the same kind of mastery of statistics that Obama has of economics, that you get from smoking a joint in the faculty lounge of that department.
If a guy is standing there with a smoking gun over the corpse, you don't need a 99.9999% statistical filter to determine guilt. You look for a few verifying facts and a lack of falsifying facts, and it's not a matter of decimal points.
NSA failed us during the Boston Marathon Bombing false flag bullshit, failed at Sandy Hook flase flag bullshit, failed us at Washington DC MK ultra Navy Goon shoothing people.Failed us at Washington DC when dumb bitch talking on cell phone crashing into gate at white house and freaking out at cops pointing guns at her. Why do we need them spying on us again? NSA sucess rate is -100%
That quote was a keeper, ON A FOGGY London day.
You damn right I am an American terrorist.
http://www.boatingaccidentnews.com/
If we have done things correctly than the whole fucking site should fill in anyone who is...clueless? Fuck off NSA. WE DON'T CARE if you know. We WANT you to know.
These people who claim to be in charge do not intimidate anyone out here. I can show them how to make a loaf of bread if need be.
They'd better hope those belts on the printing press pulleys do not break soon though.
You have no idea what is out in the MidWest. We are patient people but we are running a bit short.
This government we have makes no sense for us. I can not see a reason for a republic that is controlled by banks and DC. Cui bono? Not us!
Well I reposted the 1800 fu-ckyo on FB and talked a buncha shit about the prez yesterday and today my atm wont work and I got pulled over twice for nothing. Hmmm. Fuck these motherfuckers. If we don't stand up to these people now, then it's over. NWO, illuminati, debt slavery,zero privacy and devil worshiping, will be the new normal. These ideas will become generationally accepted. It's not looking pretty as it seems these powers are firmly entrenched. My best idea at this point to resist is quit paying your taxes and use the money to fortify your family. Or just go along to get along. Line up for your thinning as the world is reevaluated. It will be called The Great Reevaluation coming to a world economy near you.
Could be that you were inspected to be used as a sex object in a NWO Illuminati Satanic sex party and were rejected.
A narrow escape.
Oslo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktavVAaKXw8&list=HL1380950132
If I was in charge of the NSA, I would do two things which are far more important than looking for inexistant terrorists.
1 - I would keep a finger on the pulse of the nation by analysing meta-data and watering down any nefarious ideas which find traction with on-line techniques which are now well understood.
2 - I would keep a close look at all the people with power in order to curb or control this power whenever necessary with soft but well targetted "hints" based on whatever confidential information I have.
But that's just me. I am sure nobody else would think about that...
It's a crying "bollocks" shame, when our Masters have to remind us who we were the servants of?
When Obama, Harry Reid, Boehner, Durbin, Schumer, Pelosi, W, Cheney Gore, Clinton,etc... take a bullet to their bird brain, and I go celebrate at the local gin mill, am I a terrorist?
"There were 207 attempted terrorist attacks. If we assume there were 20 individuals involved per attack, that would mean there are 414 terrorists in America".
Someone Google 207 x 20 will ya?
Eh. My garage door doesn't use a torsion spring.
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Fuck 'em.
Think what you want to NSA.
Just like anybody.
Can't change your mind, won't try to.
I'm right here if you'd like to talk,
I am standing right next to JohnG.
Better get some armor.
Yes.
And to think that we used to feel sorry for the people in Eastern Europe, who were exposed to the amateurish surveillance tecniques of the likes of the Stasi; bugs, tape recorders and index cards.
The so called terrorists have already won, in that we have collectively sacrificed our freedoms, in the face of scare mongering.
They are being a bit disingenous here since in statistics in general you'd filter that further using things like confidence intervals or to keep in line with the calculation methods used in the example aka Bayesian statistics, credible intervals. With that said it doesn't remove all false positives (The Yenta on Long Island and her visit concerning searching backpacks and pressure cookers on google is one) but the number of people will be reduced before they start knocking on doors. The other thing to keep in mind and I am not saying this is right or wrong just that you have to look at it from a mathematicians perspective the larger the data set the better for working with the math they use to do this sort of statistical analysis.
Don't underestimate the predictive nature of this stuff but guilty by statistical probability can have a real bad outcome once the process is hijacked by disingenous and intellectually dishonest people and interests. That is always the greatest enemy of freedom and the real problem that no one has yet been able to solve.
This Tower of Babel will not succeed. Be of good cheer.
Spam them with terror babble.
Terrorist .. hah.. I am more worried about all the hillbillies with guns who can go apeshit over Obamacare
At least the hillbillies hit what they're shooting at.
Hey montezuma, you will be going hungry a long time before those hillbillies ever will. If and when they ever decide to use their guns you may rest assured, you will never see or hear them coming. Think the movie, "Next of Kin". Probably not too many hillbillies reading ZH though.
Yee-hah.
Not so sure, my Bible is the Zombie Survival Guide, plus couldnt I just smell this Appalachian Team Six from a mile away?
Just kidding, I bet most of the rural ninjas have better things to do than start some civil war shit over pretty watered down health care refom, like getting screwed over by Monsanto.
More worried about the gang bankers robbing me/us tbh.
But terrorists... dont think so. Havent seen the movie, any good?
Have a good one.
Am I the only one who missed the simple math ERROR in the beginning? "If 20 people are involved per attempt that equals 414 terrorists..."
Um, basic math guys, I'm no higher math nerd, but 20 times 207 is 4,140 or ten times the initial number.
If the basis is errorneous, the rest of the shit shifts as well. They should have spent a little more time on the MATH and less on the GRAPHICS.
That would also mean that 1 in 62,000 Americans is a terrorist according to the NSA. That means most moderate sized cities in the US would have at least one person capable of committing an act that could maim or kill multiples of people. Heck, the rate of mental deficiency in the US is higher than that. And Washington has the cream of the crop sent to them each year by the states where they are wined and dined and feted and learn how to improve their skill via something as simple as a piece of paper.
Yep and the probability is also wrong should be 0.001601802252% not 0.0001601802252%, secondly it is not a mariginal probability either, it is just a plain probability there are no intersections involved. Also it is 1 in 62430 people rounding up to be consistent with the rounding of the probability. Whoever did the infographic was either not a math person or one of them first year college kid types trying to apply something they learned in school here to make a point.
There are legions of people in the free shit army who are mentally fucked up enough to cause mayhem. Luckly for everyone the odds are is that they are incapable of executing.
There is another math error in there. From nowhere in the provided information can it be inferred that P(X|~A)=.01. One must notice that P(X|A)+P(X|~A) is not ncessarily equal to one (though we do have P(X|A)+P(~X|A)=1 and P(A|X)+P(~A|X)=1).
Wait, given that the NSA has turned over information to Israel, shouldn't it be, do THEY consider you a terrorist?
Enough with the horseshit about Tea Party and OWS.
Tea Party= Stop the corruption and spend less.
OWS = Stop the corruption and spend more...on us.
The second point negates any common ground of the first.
OWS = stop all corruption and break down the financial system, by taxing the 1% more and shutting down the Derivatives Wall. Taxing the rich more will AUTOMATICALLY cut down on financialista MALINVESTMENT of PRIVATE OLIGARCHS who run Pax Americana.
You can then spend MORE on social protecton and good education/infrastructure by spending less on big government, big business, big arms and all the rest.
Replace big oil by big renewables and more good EROEI type investment in fossils.
You make that trade off very binary; its not what the OWS stands for.
Just remember the USA's greatest years were the 50s, times of high taxation and it NEVER killed innovation then. So why should it now?
More on that here (even if its published in BI the facts have some pertinence even for ZH readers). Not all of ZH is brain dead.
Why Americans Should Be Thankful For Income Tax - Business Insider
Not saying I buy this 100%, but I do agree that progressive taxation is the sign of a balanced society with a vibrant middle class and a moving social elevator. We are losing that in first world with current NWO run by Oligarchy and its the young people who will hurt most. OWS is a young people's movement.
How about just letting everyone decide what they want to use as money (gold backed something or the other, comodilty backed bills....)? The main point is that if the gov't-central bank cannot create money out of thin air they will quickly dry up and blow away. Taxing more won't cut it. The tax laws in the 50's had mega loop holes. The rich did not pay those high tax rates. Less gov't-not more. More money for "good" education?......more money does not equal better education. Do not trust the State to do the right thing. Less gov't-not more.
Less government not more; I agree to avoid both Oligarchy and state fascism. But right now we have the worse of both worlds as its hegemonic.
We need more citizen participaton less mindless consumerista knee jerks, that make us suckers for the transnational Oligarchies.
It all begins with PEOPLE taking over from Oligarchs and ensuring neither Anarchy nor Elitist Fascism.
Those are the two historically proven extremes of social decadence to be avoided.
We need more responsible citizenry; not less. More election and control of honest leaders, by the people for the people not less. WHATEVER THAT TAKES, hopefully peacefully, but if not...history can repeat.
Yes. We are in a bad spot. The whole world is. We live in interesting times. I wish us all luck. When the sheeple are rudely shaken awake we will see which way it goes; More gov't "protection" or stepping back from cradle to grave gov't.
I WANT the NSA to follow me online. Woo Hoo, I'm here *thumbs in ears, fingers waggling* Here's the third grade lesson: if you're not doing anything wrong, you don't have anything to worry about. Next.
You are an idiot. Do you have children? Have any of their "friends" called your home? Do you KNOW who their parents are? Perhaps one of them has a record for drugs, and that number called YOUR home. So when the Stassi come for you in the night to inquire about some call in the murky past remember that you can always save yourself by incriminating others, even your spouse.
Remember the Gulags...
if you're not doing anything wrong, you don't have anything to worry about. Next.
Depends on the definition of wrong and who is doing the defining. What if believing in freedom becomes wrong....errr...sorry....already has.
If you are not being sarcastic, fuck you!
Graduate to forth grade dumb fuck
Does the NSA think your a terrorist. Silly question. OF COURSE they do. We are ALL presumed guilty until proven guilty.
I once junked an Obama/FED apologist here...should I be looking over my shoulder?
Hey NSA--crack this one for the hidden message:
MYASSCHEEKS
wow. my pc got noticeably slower just clicking on this article. and every letter i click is hanging. okee dokee. ...do terrorists say okee dokee?
I really don't care what the NSA thinks of me, just don't get in my face if you don't want trouble.
Trying to find the needle in the haystack is a problem. Miriam Carey's killing at the hands of Washington police Thursday involving an unarmed women is how you kill ALL terrorist. Who cares if professionally trained police or NSA kills someone who is innocent in their pursuit to keep all Americans safe? Apparently, very few care.
And then the State’s got Tokyo Rose, aka John McCain, out there telling opponents to its wannabe NSA-controlled Socialist Empire that “we can’t win": it’s been all over the airwaves. Here’s NEWSMAX Oct. 3, 2013:
If Republicans stick together, they'll win the budget fight — but with Sen. John McCain saying "we can't win," they won't prevail, Donald Trump says in an interview with Larry King airing (this past) Thursday night.
"Sen. McCain came out the other day and said we can't win. We can't win," Trump tells King in the interview, to be shown on RT America, reports The Daily Caller. "That's a hell of a statement to make. It's not exactly good for your side and it emboldens the other side."
Poor McCain, Bush used dirty politics to take him out of presidential race in 2000 and he has never been the same. When my yellow lab was getting old, she mentally changed as she hated to be alone. Old age has harmed McCain. He needs to retire .
Poor McCain? Maybe he was realized for the turncoat rhino that he is. And dirty politics? How about McCain/Grahamnisty who colluded to keep Romney from being the nominee in O8'? Say what you will about Romney and yes he did give govt healthcare to the STATE of Massachussetts, but that's the big diference, its the state not the country. Romney in 08' wouldve exposed the bamster for the inexperienced no nothing community agitator that he is. Doubt Romney would've betrayed our embassador in Benghazi. McCain/Feingold anyone? McCain Kennedy anyone? McCain appearing with and supporting "freedom fighters" in Syria anyone. McCain is a typical politcal statist who chose to use the ideological right side of the same coin...statism.
seriously there must be some comic value in this:
You Might Be A Terrorist (Redneck) If:
You own more than one pressure cooker.
You paid off a debt of $5000 or more using cash you had buried in your backyard.
You think the government is spying on you.
You get phonecalls from foreign countries where terrorists operate, the conversation is short, and usually ends with you saying, "don't call me here again.."
you bought twenty pounds of ammonium nitrate, and you live in an apartment. (they will turn this one over to DEA after they find out you have a pot plant in a grow box)
you have a complete set of Thomas Brothers maps for the major cities, and you used to be a truck driver.
you served honorably in the military and you think war is wrong.
you volunteered for a non-profit organization with the phrase "tea party" in their name.
you refer to your political status as "used to be" a Democrat/Republican, but you aren't either right now.
When you are weak appear strong, when you are strong appear weak. ~ Sun Tzu from The Art of War
Applied to this discussion:
When you are a terrorist appear to be a non-terrorist. When you are not a terrorist appear to be a terrorist.
When you are following the rules appear to be not following the rules. When you are not following the rules appear to be following the rules.
When you are thinking independently appear to be not thinking independently. When you are not thinking independently appear to be thinking independently.
The result (happening now):
The innocent are being targeted leading to reduced credibility of the machine.
The guilty are being supported leading to reduced credibility of the machine.
What if everyone got an ows debit card and used it to buy the basics? I wish I could gift them to people. lol