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Man Sets Himself On Fire On National Mall, Near White House
Yesterday it was a shooting at a runaway mom driver that shut down the Capitol area for hours. Today, while there have been no shootings in D.C., moments ago we just got news of a self-immolation in the middle of the National Mall, where a man allegedly doused himself in gasoline and set himself on fire, suffering life-threatening injuries according to the DC Fire Department.
NBC Washington reports that "Passersby on the National Mall in Washington, D.C., ripped off their shirts to help extinguish the flames after a man apparently tried to set himself on fire Friday, witnesses and authorities said. The man was conscious and breathing when he was flown by helicopter to Washington Medical Center, D.C. police said. There was no immediate report on his condition. The incident, which was reported at 4:24 p.m. ET, occurred on Seventh Street Southwest near the National Air and Space Museum, U.S. Park Police said. Witnesses told several media organizations, including NBC Washington, that they saw the man pour gasoline on himself from a red canister and then set himself ablaze. Police said they couldn't confirm those reports. Nearby joggers stopped and ripped off their shirts to smother the flames, NBC Washington reported."
The burned man was promptly carried off the Mall using a helicopter.
A fire official says a man has been flown to the hospital after setting himself on fire on the National Mall.
Fire crews responded Friday afternoon to a report of a man on fire at 7th and Madison streets. A witness says she saw a man dump a red canister of gasoline on his head and then set himself on fire.
D.C. Fire Department spokesman Tim Wilson says the man has life-threatening injuries.
His name and age weren't immediately known.
Sky News confirms:
Man Sets Himself On Fire Near To White House http://t.co/jZiL7fW785
— Sky News (@SkyNews) October 4, 2013
Picture from the National Mall. Helicopter lifting off, efforting more details. pic.twitter.com/hv6pD20swp
— Brian Sasser (@ProducerSass) October 4, 2013
Eyewitness twitter user Hellie Hess reported that "someone just lit himself on fire in the middle of the National Mall "
Holy shit, someone just lit himself on fire in the middle of the National Mall pic.twitter.com/qzGgl9OuUo
— Ellie Hess (@Smellie03) October 4, 2013
Other did too
Just witnessed the craziest thing ever... a man set himself on fire and danced down the Mall. #horrifying
— Vanessa Sink (@LiveMusicGirl) October 4, 2013
BREAKING : U.S. Park Police helicopter is flying out "an individual that attempted to set self on fire at the Mall."
— Myles N. Miller (@myles_nm) October 4, 2013
The man apparently burned himself as an act of protest.
— Myles N. Miller (@myles_nm) October 4, 2013
This happened at 7th St SW & Jefferson Dr, right near the Hirschorn Museum + National Air and Space Museum.
— Myles N. Miller (@myles_nm) October 4, 2013
The man who set himself on fire, was taken to @medstarwhc.
— Myles N. Miller (@myles_nm) October 4, 2013
JUST IN: Man found on fire on the National Mall, D.C. Police Dept. says; male found 'conscious & breathing'
— NBC Nightly News (@nbcnightlynews) October 4, 2013
@brianstelter They are transporting him by helicopter from the Mall now.
— Vanessa Sink (@LiveMusicGirl) October 4, 2013
More from Twitchie:
So a helicopter just landed on the National Mall in Washington, DC. There's a bunch of police cars there too
— Frank Thorp V (@frankthorpNBC) October 4, 2013
Helicopter just landed on National Mall near 7th Street. Fire trucks, police are blocking off area. #GWU
— The GW Hatchet (@GWHatchet) October 4, 2013
Photo by @Stephanie_Gus shared minutes ago shows a helicopter landing on the Mall: http://t.co/cBeax8RFQC
— Mark Berman (@themarkberman) October 4, 2013
The burning man was promptly carried out by helicopter:
And more pictures:
Picture from the National Mall. Helicopter lifting off, efforting more details. pic.twitter.com/hv6pD20swp
— Brian Sasser (@ProducerSass) October 4, 2013
Lifting self immolated individual from the mall pic.twitter.com/xkaTniVELl
— Laura Wernick (@wernick7633) October 4, 2013
DC police and passerby help man who set himself on fire on the Mall this afternoon pic.twitter.com/XTZc6WaaA2
— Vanessa Sink (@LiveMusicGirl) October 4, 2013
Scene on the mall when man set himself on fire. pic.twitter.com/lv4qwRxiKp
— Vanessa Sink (@LiveMusicGirl) October 4, 2013
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Helicopter to transport man who set himself on fire on the Mall today. pic.twitter.com/y6AFts7Qp6
— Vanessa Sink (@LiveMusicGirl) October 4, 2013
So is this the start of the American Spring, er, Fall, or will the ashes be promptly buried under the rug?
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Eugenicists rejoice...
William H. Gates III COL '77, LLD '07 Q&A | The Harvard Campaign Launch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBHJ-8Bch4E (54:47)
Do you see what happens Larry?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZV_vpkVTNA
fucking DC is turning into a WW Z area? no?
Some are saying that the movie ( and the rash of other zombie media like Walking Dead, etc.) is an intentional desensitization program - is your neighbor acting funny? just aim for the head!
The young man in Tunisia is of a noble type. College grad, no job, no money, no pussy.
He was reduced to selling veggies by the side of the road and was having his ass hassled by Tunisian cops.
Wait a sec......take away Tunisian and put in 'American'. Nah, they'd be bitching for a free Bozo phone, foods stamps and shit.....
I do get that harmonic tremor that the country seems to be closing on a breaking point though. People starting to come unglued.
Stress test for Obamacare?
You didn't burn that!
I thought it was pretty cold when Barry lit his cigarette off the burning guy's ass.
So what was the problem? Did they cut off his EBT?
so what exactly happened with that woman anyway? was she on meds? which ones?
why haven't we heard shit about it today? because the feds overreacted?
She was behaving very erratically, and had already injured a police officer with her vehicle. She was a clear and present danger to someone and had to be stopped. No one knew there was an infant in the vehicle.
That being said, she was kinda right about being electronically snooped on by Obama.
"so what exactly happened with that woman anyway? was she on meds? which ones?"
Oh, you'll really have to dig for that info, probably only to be found in some UK newspaper article. The superficial sensationalist media morons here don't do that "investigative journalism thing" any more since it's too expensive and sheep have a very short attention span anyway. "She was just crazy. Move along, nothing to see here."
"why haven't we heard shit about it today? because the feds overreacted?"
See above and "yes."
Yeah, info on her is a real bitch to find..
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/miriam-carey-believed-to-be-driver-shot-near-us-capitol-lived-with-daughter-in-conn/2013/10/04/2794cc24-2ce7-11e3-8ade-a1f23cda135e_story.html
http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/04/us/dc-shooting-miriam-carey/index.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/03/miriam-carey-capitol-shooting_n_4040115.html
SARC
This is how the Arab Spring started...
Moments later, Senator Reid comended the Capitol police for defeating the terrorist's attempt at deploying a weapon of grass destruction so close to the nation's esteemed leadership.
Cops shot him 15 times....it didn't put it out
Then they peppered sprayed him and served him right up !
That would qualify as a balanced school lunch under current USDA/Michelle guidelines.
obamacare to the rescue!!!!
Yeah! free helicopter rides!
No way in hell they're going to let this hit the news without serious spin. They'll bury it or blame it on the .gov shutdown or both. We can't let the people think the US is as corrupt as a banana republic now can we.
How many bullet holes did they put in him? He may have been sitting on a trigger for a bomb.
jesus H christ. You are supposed to take someone out, not off yourself. The cops will do that for you afterwards.
Is his name Walter White?
Shotgun Joe: "Boss, uh, Mr Sheik, what will those crazy serfs do next?"
Sheik: (sniff) another brandy, Joe."
Obama goes for a walk, and next thing you know, a guy sets himsel on fire in the neighborhood.
Conincidence?
I am SO PROUD of the DC Police. They should be given the "medal of restraint" for not shooting the guy. For once, the jack-booted thugs didn't play target practice on another citizen. Congratulations, DC Cops!!!
surprised the "heroic" DC capitol police didn't gun him down as well...
could have been two standing O's in two days and another round of "thank you DC police" buttons.
btw turns out mom may not have been mentally ill after all, just kind of panicked after running into a unexpected check point staffed by paramilitary goons in a city she was not familiar with, which was not at the Outhouse's front door as originally reported by the way, but was further down the road. at which point maternal instinct kicked in and she tried, as most people would, to get her and her child away from those who were shooting at her. apparently the capitol police were praised for showing restraint...by waiting a whole 12 seconds before filling her car, with a child in it full of bullets. turns out the wounded police officer, who was first shot, then run over by this crazed women according to the MSM was actually the victim of his own stupidity and poor driving skills, or lack there of.
and the psychotic, death worshiping wastes of skin that inhabit our nations capitol have the nerve to give this blatant act of murder a standing ovation and walk around wearing buttons thanking the DC capitol police for shooting an unarmed mother down in the street...
sick beyond hope of treatment.
Have DC cops been issued with flamethrowers recently?
Things are getting nuttier and nuttier. Don't think that's planned? Some gal doing crazy things on the last day of a major, three day first responder exercise in DC and now this?
If you haven't seen the documentary "The Fog of War," you should. Absolutely excellent. Since this immolation was reported to be near the Air and Space Museum, it just might have some small chance of a connection to this act from the Vietnam era:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Morrison
Norman Morrison (December 29, 1933 – November 2, 1965), born in Erie, Pennsylvania, was a Baltimore Quaker best known for committing suicide at age 31 in an act of self-immolation to protest United States involvement in the Vietnam War. Norman graduated from the College of Wooster in 1956.[1] He was married and had two daughters and a son.
On November 2, 1965, Morrison doused himself in kerosene and set himself on fire below Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara's Pentagon office.[2][3] This was probably in emulation of Buddhist monk Thich Quang Duc, who burned himself to death in downtown Saigon of then South Vietnam to protest the repression committed by the South Vietnam government.
How about Jim Morrison ...
You know that it would be untrue
You know that I would be a liar
If I were to say to you
Girl, I want to be on fire.
Come on baby, light my fire.
The CIA is having lots of fun running these psy-ops.
Oh, it's not the CIA. It's some of the hundreds of thousands of retired or booted-out spooks in action, both civilian and former military, the ones who think laws are just impediments to doing the "right thing" as they see it. They're part of the "good old boy" network of former spooks that the current spooks and law enforcement don't want to find:
READ this book from shortly after the COINTELPRO era (1978):
Spooks: The Haunting Of America - The Private Use Of Secret Agents
http://www.zenosbooks.com/our-book-blogs/1855-spooks-the-haunting-of-ame...
SPOOKS probes the private use of secret agents by multinational corporations, the politically powerful, and the rich. Since the beginnings of the American intelligence community, literally thousands of spies have left federal employment to work for those industries and those individuals that are wealthy enough to afford them. Their impact on the way American business is done and life is lived has been at once profound and largely unseen. In a real sense, America has become ‘haunted’ by the spooks its government has trained and then turned loose on the public. Private CIAs and Mission Impossible agencies-for-hire have sprung up in virtually every major commercial center, and within most of the ‘Fortune 500,’ corporations as well. Unlike the CIA, these private apparats are in no way accountable to the public—only to their employers.
"Fabulous insight into the secret world of intelligence
By A Customer on December 9, 1997
It has been some time since I read this book which I found completely by chance in a used book store. Having an interest in the subject, I purchased it and subsequently found it to be full of information about the intelligence community and what the agents do when they leave the FBI, CIA, NSA (you fill in the blank) etc. In one paragraph on Prince Barnhard of the Netherlands, the author provides more background and insight into the powerful structures that govern the world than could be found in years of reading Time magazine. If you see this book, buy read it and do not lend it to anyone.
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Finally, ask yourself this - how difficult would it be for these individuals to covertly manipulate already unstable individuals to do what they want them to do exactly when they want them to do it in order to mould national public opinion via statistically irrelevant but sensational events? It wouldn't take any kind of "MK Ultra" style crap to do that.
Consider this "convenient" news diversion timeline. Cho's sister worked in the Baghdad, Iraq Provisional Authority Green Zone, so her nutty brother would have been known to spookdom via her security clearance background check. Sometimes, these events are politically convenient, so those behind them are not to be found:
Tuesday, February 6, 2007: Firings of U.S. Attorneys draw Senate's attention - The Senate Judiciary Full Committee hears testimony on the firings of several U.S. attorneys, subject title was “Is the DOJ Politicizing the Hiring and Firing of U.S. Attorneys?”, Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty testifies.
Friday, February 9, 2007: Seung-Hui Cho purchases his first handgun, a .22 caliber Walther P22 semiautomatic pistol, 10 round capacity.
Tuesday, March 13, 2007: AG Alberto Gonzales at a press conference admits "mistakes were made" in the Bush administration's firing of eight federal prosecutors and says his deputies may have given Congress an incomplete accounting of the dismissals.
Tuesday, March 13, 2007: In an interview with the "Good Morning America" early morning show, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., the front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination, for the first time calls for the resignation of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.
Tuesday, March 13, 2007: Seung-Hui Cho buys 9mm Glock 19 semiautomatic pistol, 15 round capacity standard, 17, 19, or 33 optional.
Monday, April 16, 2007: Seung-Hui Cho, a senior-level undergraduate student at Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University kills 32 people and wounds in the shooting rampage which came to be known as the "Virginia Tech massacre."[
Thursday, April 19, 2007: Attorney General Alberto Gonzales testifies before the Senate Judiciary Full Committee. PBS Newshour said, "By the accounts of Democrats and Republicans alike, Alberto Gonzales entered today's hearing with his job on the line."
Government doesn't seem very "shut down", does it?
The Govt Down Arrow $$$ person has not been shut down, judging from all the single down arrow votes on so many of the comments.
The Govt Down Arrow Department is an essential function of our august Republic so it's not affected by mere shutdowns or downsizings.
netanyahoo fun and games.
the ex furniture salesman is such a tease.
but soon the real false flags start.
these silly tales are modest distraction rothschild and his zionist chums in tel aviv and saudi will soon make hay
and dance.
I'm kinda glad I missed the Burning Man this year.
questions
so many
what about benghazi and the gun runner ambassador?
whT HAPPENED TO ALL OF GADAFFI's GOLD
what happened to all those surface to air missiles?
You know, I read financial sites, in part to get away from the if-it-bleeds-it-leads news on other news outlets. Yeah, nobody forced me to read the article or comment on it, but still. At least I don't have to see Miley Cyrus here.
You missed the Miley articles? The significance of this article is that shit is starting to get real in the land of the free. Feel free to try and find some softer sand to stick your head in.
Freedom
Just around the corner for you
But with Truth so far off
What good would it do?
--Bob Dylan, 'Jokerman'
Very sad, it’s the sign of the times under this leadership. Pitching out open candy, glitched Obamacare service, and free phones has reached a brick wall. Throwing a slab of beef into the cage of the lion to contend restlessness is no longer working.
Rest assured, Uncle Tom told you everyone deserves all equal benefits that KAYAK has to offer and we’re not a banana republic country. They built this model, can only imagine how quickly they ride out of dodge city before the locals find them.
Will the gov't ban the sale of gasoline in cans now? Gotta bring your lawnmower, weed whacker, etc. to the gas staion to fill them?
Don't forget to bring your permit.
Hairball, stop giving these assholes any more idea's. :P
2 days in a row - central planning is losing control
Good maybe shit will start to get real in this fucking country like Tunisia.....
And if you are going to do somethin like that please take a fucking government stooge down with you simultaneously.....what a Gip
Wondering if he got a protest permit for that .... ?
Lone Black swan Lady with 1 yold in tow yesterday, Burning Man today ... tomorrow the American Militia grows a pair and shows up where it matters?
I dont think the controllers were ready for shit to go this pear shaped so fast - they were expecting a different kind of protest, this is the kind of crap that is very hard to spin.
One spark can lead to a conflagration that they cannot control - will the sheeple sleep through this kind of thing?
I got excited I thought it might be Obama!
Silk Road is closed ... yep some people are gonna be strung out.
Green grocer in Tunisia immohlates himself sets off Arab Spring. Average Joe in USA lights him self ablaze in Washington sets off a huge yawn.
Yup, thats about right.
Green grocer in Tunisia immohlates himself sets off Arab Spring. Average Joe in USA lights him self ablaze in Washington sets off a huge yawn.
Yup, thats about right.
best
guess
Not Tea Party protest
Not African-american
Maybe crazy Dem (I doubt that)
probably white and 50% chance of mental ilness.
That is my wild guess based on 60+ years of observation and prejudice.
I have NO data to support this.
Does profound disagreement with, and opposition to, an increasingly unjust, perverted and insane society now automatically count as "mental illness"?
BREAKING NEWS:
Prez complains of chill on walk. Assistance offered to abate.
Full story at 11:00
We have officially gone full retard/banana republic.
Hope he was a banker.
in few days from now CNN claim it was the missing driver from that burning Tesla car
after he set himself on fire the cops seasoned him with a little pepper spay and voila ! diner for the obama's is served .
they send in the helicoter to make sure he was still warm and fresh .
Why? Did he have a dog with him too?
Eruptions in the collective consciousness.
Was he flaming?
If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" is a philosophical thought experiment that raises questions regarding observation and knowledge of reality.
If a mother is shot to death by DC police and no one is around to witness how the incident began, is the reporting credible?
If a man self-immolates and no one knows his reasons, will he be silenced too?
Nowadays, we appear to have more information, and less insight. Congress has chosen to be deaf and dumb, rather than inquiring. Applauding hyped-up gov. men for killing a panicked mother over a traffic violation shows that they are either too stupid or too corrupt to hold high office. Dangerous, educated fools. In my opinion.
PS
The family of the mother shot to death in DC yesterday includes a police officer, and the family's lawyer is no doubt compiliing useful evidence from many sources. How ridiculous will DC look when the claque is shown to be bloodthirsty, and ignorant, no matter how high and mighty they may believe themselves to be.
Claque, defined as: a group of persons hired to applaud an act or performer. 2. a group of sycophants. Always ready to applaud the person/s they follow.
Preconditioning for something very interesting,
Yesterday they killed a woman with a baby, Today they drugged some black guy, and poured gas over his head, and shot a video,..
Somebody in the Government is trying to make it look like DC is going crazy,...
Then you have the cops driving into barricades, like they're chickens with their heads cut off.
A few weeks ago you had Navy-Yard where the CERT teams were ordered to stand down while Navy brothers were being slaughtered, ... something is about to happen.
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Lastly, NEVER forget on this Miriam Carey story, first 5 hours MSM reported a 'man with a gun was shooting cops and driving around hitting cars', ... it took the MSM over 5 hours to admit that the shooting was done 100% by the cops, and that the not a 'mad gun man' had killed the mother, but that she had been shot by a cop.
Then you have the cop driving into the barricade, which means too many agency's NOT communicating.
My take is everything is out of control, everybody has their own cop shop, ... to tell truth folks its the Tower of Babel, and you can see that.
Ever notice how people these days like to "one-up" each other? Whether it be at a wedding, or a marriage proposal, etc.?
Well, this is now trending in DC
Oughta be pretty rockin' in a few weeks...
Desperate people do desperate things...like a confused mother with a baby fleeing armed men ... or self-immolation.
This is something that happens in the worst hell holes in the world when people can't stand it anymore.
SORRY TO HAVE AWAKEN YOU SO ABRUBTLY, it's time to choose the red or the blue pill...
"Glitch-ridden Obamacare website going down for maintenance over weekend"
BUWAHAHAHAHA!!!
Huh. Is Obama going to add more days to the end of December to make sure everyone still has enough time to enroll?
From the burning mans' manifesto;
Labeling someone's action as domestic violence in American in the 21st century is akin to labeling someone a Jew in Germany in the 1930's. The entire legal weight of the state is coming down on him. But I consider myself lucky. My family was destroyed. But that poor bastard in Germany had his family literally annihilated.
Arrests are mandatory for the police in New Hampshire for domestic violence. That is not law. That is police department policy. Laws come from the Legislature and the Governor's office together. God only knows where these policies come from. The State's Attorney General also has a mandatory arrest protocol for domestic violence. I call these policies, procedures and protocols The Second Set of Books. You never cover the Second Set of Books your junior year in high school. That because we are not suppose to have a Second Set of Books. This is America-we have the rule of law.
Truer words never spoken.
Thank Bokonon for Obamacare! You can't be refused for a pre-existing condition. Get that man a laptop!
ObamaScare, shurely (Ed.)
In one of the accompanying photos, I'm glad that we now have on the Mall the National Symbol of Safe Sex.
:-D !
Guess he didn't want to be target practice for the Depart of Homeland insecurity's 2 billion rounds of hollow Point ammo.
DHS To Buy 360,000 More Rounds of Hollow Point Ammunition
http://www.infowars.com/dhs-to-buy-360000-more-rounds-of-hollow-point-ammunition/
Greece lead the way.
Greek man sets himself on fire
http://www.reuters.com/news/pictures/slideshow?articleId=USRTR2REV6#a=1
A indication the SHTF soon.
We were told after the first election of Obama that the Middle east problems were coming to America. They are here.
Story is being buried deep. Too many similarities to the Arab Spring a few years ago where we were being told to cheer for guys like that.
The paper reported that the man thanked the people who put out the fire. Poor guy, he must be hurting badly. I hope he gets well.
Is this covered by Obamagedon care?
Well I guess it was only a matter of time. Good job Gubermint. In a few weeks I suppose we can look forward to 53 killed 100 hurt in car bombings. Just like a post mission accomplished day in Iraq.
Living in a post fist world Nations is not as nostalgic as it sounds. Fucking nightly gun shots are messing up my beauty rest.
America is nuttier than squirrel turds. Expect more of this craziness.
Mother fucker's lucky he didn't have a kid in the the car or we would have showed him what a real government shut down IS!
I really don't understand what setting yourself on fire is going to prove or why you would think it would change a nation. In two or three days you might get your name in the paper but after 5 days nobody will remember you. If you want to make a meaningful and impacting statement, don't hurt yourself or any innocent people.
Well it is one of the more timeless and shocking types of protest. It's not that forgettable. People still remember the Buddhist Monks that sat themselves on fire decades ago. Still remember self emmolation acts from a year or so ago in Europe. I may disagree with the "no one will remember you" sentiment. Now of course the act has to be shown over and over by MSM which I haven't exactly seen though last night there were many discussions about the "delusional lady" gunned down with a baby in the car.
I wonder how that news would've been spinned had that driver been white and southern? I have an idea but can't know for sure.
He didn't 'set himself on fire', he had an accomplice that dumped gas on him, and was running a tripod and camera, and there are witnesses, and one was a lawyer, and there are videos,
What this story proves is the USA MSM are liars as they're still reporting 'he set himself on fire'.
The man was drugged, and most likely a US GOVERNMENT agency, put him in the park and lit him on fire to take the killing of Miriam Carey off the news.
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Katy Scheflen, a furloughed civil rights attorney in the Justice Department, said she stopped because she saw "a guy with a tripod set up."
Scheflen said another man, who she thought the tripod with a camera was filming, then took a red can of gasoline, poured it over his head.
"At that point we didn't know what was going, maybe it was some sort of stage protest," Scheflen said. "And then he set himself on fire and went up in flames," she said. "Whoosh."
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/man-sets-fire-national-mall-rep...
I don't know if your facts are right, but the analysis is not ... the point of setting him on fire while recording it would be so that the footage could later be used in MSM puff pieces that show how everything has gone off the rails now that the govt is shut down. They are desperate for hardship stories like that to scare the Repubes into folding.
Found out he missed Burning Man. Got Pissed.
Winston smith, that book brings to the front the retired .gov agents impact on America, One hopes these men are moral patriots, one fears many are neither. will look for that title: Spooks the haunting of America. thanks for that.
I was distresed at the death of miriam at the hands of .gov agents who showed no courage or morality and seemed to put it kindly total screw ups (ala the police car running into known barriors, damn) car chases ala key stone cops.
I was also surprised at the lack of support when I posted on ZH she must have justice for her unlawful death, seems more on ZH are coming around to that point.
It doesn't seem they can find anything on Miriam, so it looks like they were spooking her into a corner and killed her to make a statement to their bosses. A horrible way to go. I wish it had been someone breaking through to scare the entire political camp!
Another crazy liberal.
bullshit
i just had a flat tire. Sleepy Chicagao suburb with road work going on so virtually no traffic. No shoulder either so I put on hazard lights and began changing flat in traffic lane. Cop pulls up behind me puts on flashers and offers to help. Nice right? He helped and when we were done he asked me for my ID. What? Your ID sir please. I asked why he would need my ID when I just had a flat tire. Procedure. I didn't decide to push it since choosing your battles wisely may be apprapo in these days and times. WTF? ID for helping me change a flat??? We are over the edge. And the edge is moving farther away. I was caught in and undertow in Lake Michigan as a teen and was a good swimmer. The whole atmosphere of our land feels kind of like that undertow. Though an undertow you don't fight. I think that is their hope. That we don't fight. The undertow is upon us.
That happened to me a while ago. I was helping a lady who ran out of gas when the cops pulled up. They got the explanation & then asked me for ID. I asked why & they said for their report, I'm the 'good samaritan'. I haven't gotten any tickets since. =))