Jesse Ventura Calls For "American Revolution" Against The "Corrupt System"

Tyler Durden's picture

The irony of Jesse Ventura calling for a new "American Revolution" in a conversation with Brit Piers Morgan is not lost on us but the former Governor of Minnesota asks some awkwardly open questions in this 'colorful' interview. Ventura asked if the government's shut down, "That should mean we shouldn't have to pay any taxes, right?" He called for another American revolution to push back against the "corrupt system" created by Democrats and Republicans in Washington. He told Morgan the two-party system has legalized "bribery" for access, suggesting he's fed up enough to actually run for president in 2016. Ventura called both parties "gangs," and Morgan admitted he had to agree, adding that they're "overpaid, underworked children!" The discussion then veers from Obamacare, Ventura's run for President, and the JFK conspiracy.



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suteibu's picture

It doesn't matter if most of what he says is spot on, he's already been labeled as a flaming kook by the media and those who control it.

Pladizow's picture

Pepsi vs. Coke - Different cans, same shit inside!

bigdumbnugly's picture

to be led of course by none other than......... jesse himself i presume.

"now let's talk about my book..."

Herd Redirection Committee's picture

Meanwhile, the Kenya shooting is already being revised in the history books.  As usual, the amount of gunmen has been downgraded from the initial 10-15 down to 4 (to 6). So let me guess, if an eye witness comes forward and IDs someone not among these 4 they are mistaken, right?

Perfect way for the experienced mercs to participate.  Because, when you work for money, you have to live to spend it.  These guys were involved, sure, but they are the patsies, the ones who didn't get away, basically.

FEDbuster's picture

At least Piers Morgan will be leaving CNN at some point soon.  Read that he and his agent were given a pink slip last week.

CH1's picture

Stop obeying the regime and it will fall!

Stackers's picture

George Washington Farewell Address


I have already intimated to you the danger of parties in the State, with particular reference to the founding of them on geographical discriminations. Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party generally.

This spirit, unfortunately, is inseparable from our nature, having its root in the strongest passions of the human mind. It exists under different shapes in all governments, more or less stifled, controlled, or repressed; but, in those of the popular form, it is seen in its greatest rankness, and is truly their worst enemy.

The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries which result gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of public liberty.

Without looking forward to an extremity of this kind (which nevertheless ought not to be entirely out of sight), the common and continual mischiefs of the spirit of party are sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it.

It serves always to distract the public councils and enfeeble the public administration. It agitates the community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms, kindles the animosity of one part against another, foments occasionally riot and insurrection. It opens the door to foreign influence and corruption, which finds a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions. Thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another.

Midas's picture

What percent of the twitter generation or owners of "smart" phones are going to develop the skills to write like G. Washington?  We'll give them 16 years of education, $50,000 in college debt and the information age as a head start.

Oldballplayer's picture

I am over 50 with a masters, and I have to read it very, very slowly.

That is some fancy prose there.

jerry_theking_lawler's picture

those guys (aka founding fathers) were true intellectuals....its a shame we didn't listen to them and follow the rules they set could have been a spectacular society.

old naughty's picture

The dumb down happened since...

part and parcel of the chess game.

And then, one should expect a re-volution in intellect acquiring, no?

Time now?

spine001's picture

Ventura returned unused tax money to the people of MN, has any other politician ever done that?

He was hated by all parties in MN for telling the truth as he saw it. Superb governor.

He was so antistablishment that he spent his whole term scared for his life and that of his family. He didn't want to run for a second term, eventhough he'd have won.

FL_Conservative's picture

Ventura's a moron.  Sure, I can agree with him on isolated topics here and there, but the guy is just another self-promoter who is out for himself.  Did you hear his thoughts on healthcare?  "The government should pay for everyone's healthcare if only we stopped with all these wars" (paraphrased).  Yes, Jesse, I/we agree the government should stop with all the war-making.  It's bankrupting the country, killing/maining our precious youth that get sent to do the dirty-work and making enemies around the world.  But healthcare is each individual's responsibility to provide for themselves and their family.  The answer, Jesse, is that the USA needs a direct-pay system, not a single-payer system (that the Statists want) or a crony-insured payer system (that the neo-statists want).  Oh....and good luck with the notion that you or anyone will mount a serious run for POTUS outside of the 2 established parties.  Both those parties and the controlled media won't give you the fucking time of day and you'll end up on half of the states' ballots and in none of the debates. The only way to WIN is to get inside an existing party and carve out the cancer sections at a time until the party can be reclaimed.  Any other thinking is pure folly.

Moe Howard's picture

Spot on. How can he be a libertarian and be for fedgov healthcare???

A self promoting blowhard.

fallout11's picture

Because every other industrialized nation on earth already has it, and they're the US's competition for talent and productive endeavours. Besides, it actually LOWERS costs (example: Japan spends less than half, per capita, on "socialized medicine" than the US does).

Freddie's picture

Edward Snowden was pretty impressive considering he was a high school drop out.  My guess is he is a smart kid.  The media tried to dump on him like he was a drop out.  He is far smarter and more articulate than about 95% of the puppets in DC especially the Kenyan.

It is a shame that we probably will never hear from Snowden again yet that lying usurper POS is on the media 24x7.

James's picture

considering he was a high school drop out...........


I really dislike the continued reference to Edward as a "Dropout" like he's some stupid idiot who would'nt go to class.

Edward Snowden suffers from Epilepsy. He was not physically able to go to school his junior and senior year. The man was and is sick.

Edward also had a relapse, a seizure, mere months before we all learned of him.

I think that's one of the reasons Edward came forward. Edward knows he's not long for this world. In my 57 years i've had three friends who were epileptic and they all passed on before the age of 40.

Radical Marijuana's picture

Great quote, Stackers!  However, I would have emphasized the last two lines more than those lines in the middle that you emphasized. As Jesse Ventura stated, in the video above, the main theme in American politics has become BRIBERY.  In the past, the most crucial forms that took were the ways that the international bankers were able to corrupt Congress enough to demonetize silver, way back in the 1870s. Since then, that BRIBERY has become institutionalized, everywhere one looks! The school systems, the mass media, and so on and so forth, were all gradually captured and controlled by the way that their systems were funded. All the way along, the BRIBERY was backed up by INTIMIDATION and ASSASSINATION.

Having Red Puppet Team vs. Blue Puppet Team makes it easier for those in the background to pull both their strings, primarily by how much they get funded, or not funded. Of course, roughly speaking, less than 1% provided almost 100% of the funding for politics, while 99% of the people tended to fund nothing. That has automatically run away, into positive feedbacks which are amplifying themselves to the point of self-destruction.

The great tragedy is that there is nothing that actually keeps "democracy" going within the rule of law, after the rule of law itself has its control captured by the biggest gangs of criminals. Obviously, the USA now has passed beyond the rule of law, into a world where the best organized gangs of criminals control the government, and therefore, are able to get the Democrats, and/or the Republicans, to legalize their lies, and to legalize the violence to back up those lies.

When one looks at the history of the BRIBERY, one sees that historically the most important was the influence of the international banksters. However, in modern times the biggest source of BRIBERY has been the funding from the profit from disease medical businesses. Obamacare is the current manifestation of the biggest single significant form of BRIBERY, in contemporary politics, which is the influence of the profit from disease systems upon the regulation of the medical businesses.

However, if it were not them, then it would surely become some other special interest group in the future. Even IF one could overcome the already deeply entrenched advantages of the already established systems, including the well-developed brainwashing done by the schools and the mass media, there is still the problem of ASSASSINATION. The only Presidents who do NOT get assassinated are those who agree to be puppets of the dominant organized crime gangs, that are used to controlling the world covertly. IF there was some political candidates who were able to actually challenge the power of the dominant organized crime gangs, that already control the Democrats and the Republicans, then it is practically guaranteed that they would be ASSASSINATED TOO.

People like Ron Paul or Jesse Ventura are only safe to the degree that they could not succeed, with everything, like the mass media, stacked against them. Although I agree with the theory that there should be an intellectual second American Revolution, in order to work, that would have to NOT be based on any charismatic leader, because otherwise that movement could be killed when he or she was ASSASSINATED. Unfortunately, especially given how the school systems and mass media work, it is practically impossible to imagine politics that was not stupid little monkeys supporting their tribe, and their leader, instead of intelligent individuals united effectively, in ways which did not depend upon a figurehead to focus upon.

The long history of the triumph of organized crime taking control of the government of the USA has no practical solutions that I can see ... There will eventually be an insane "Second American Revolution," but only as the established systems of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence get so completely crazy and corrupt that they cause themselves to collapse into chaos.

I regard Jesse Ventura as being remarkably brave, since the more successful he was, then the more guaranteed the backlash would become to discredit or destroy him, and he surely knows that as well as anyone else. I like what he says, but it all looks way too little, way too late, now ...

Constitutional Republic's picture

Term limits would alleviate the worst effects that we now see dominate CONgress with individuals who spend more time in DC than their original constituencies. The newly elected Senator Markey of MA is a prime example; decades in DC and Maryland, a darling of his Democrat Party machine. 

When the vote on Syria was taken, he registered 'present', if my memory is correct.

object_orient's picture

I'm not sure term limits would help much, if at all. New congressmen don't know the ins and outs of office, but their staffers do. Veteran staffers are the ones who do research, shape policy, write legislation and work closely with lobbyists. They aren't usually in the public eye yet are the real power behind the throne.

Clinteastwood's picture

Got that right.  Ever hear of the K Street lawyers?

layman_please's picture

so assuming independent nonparty candidate gets elected. what options does he have? he would cry out for people after attempts to approach or even intimidate him were made? of course msm would go silent on him immediately or even turn to ridicule to lead the way to get him out of the office. entire governmental system is built up by those non-elected forces, running president is just a visitor in the white house. he would be literally on his own and secret service would be the first one to get him. so you are completely right, intellectual revolution would be the only way, though first this would require revolution of the mind because at the moment majority still lives in a parallel universe and i can't even start to imagine what would shake them up from the stupor, though one by one the awakening is happening every single day.

Radical Marijuana's picture

Good little clip! What goes around, comes around. What "American" forces did to dozens of other countries is returning to be done to Americans. What was not stopped before, eventually comes home!

The deep dilemma is that nobody guards the guardians, and there is no practical way to stop the short-term expediency of lies, backed by violence, "succeeding" to drive society into the madness of being controlled by lies, which is not a sane way to control civilization!

The best we might be able to do is have more people understand that, in order to balance out the runaway triumph of those frauds. However, the depressing social facts continue to appear that too many Americans still believe the HUGE LIES, although fewer do so every day ...

IF enough people woke up enough, so that their alternative leaders would be believed when they revealed deeper, radical truths, then there might emerge better dynamic equilibria in the arms race between different systems of organized lies? However, so far I see not enough indications that enough people have woken up enough to stop the ruling classes to continue having a relatively easy cake walk, when they promote their old-fashioned HUGE LIES.

In my view, the "intellectual second American Revolution" would be enough Americans be able to go THROUGH the looking glass shown to them by the mass media, which projects a Bizarro Mirror World view, in which pretty everything important is shown in ways which are as backwards as it is possible to be!

That would require going way past mere "cynicism," to embrace a different world view about how everything actually always worked, so that, with that different world view, more realistic politics would be possible ...

layman_please's picture

entire human civilization (it's not even question of western or eastern cultures) going back thousands of years is nothing less than artificial false narrative which nowadays is inserted into young minds in school and which is further consolidated by the society. waking up means going back to school which requires curiosity and also will to accept of being wrong or plane stupid. in other words, it shatters the old world view which, from personal viewpoint, is not different form the world itself. what i'm trying to say is that it's not only lies they believe, it's the reality itself for the majority. these are the grounds on which their identity is built upon and by changing it, they would be lost as the narrative was the firm footing for their entire existence. 

what i'm actually looking forward for is another major false flag as it would be the litmus test to expose the population's mindset. if they won't fall for it, then it will backfire massively and accelerate the awakening. though i wouldn't call it a victory. we are dealing with social engineers who's ideology has prevailed thousands of years almost continuously. they would just change the direction if they already haven't done so because the things are not looking so good for them anymore. i'm not talking about one nefarious group or conspiracy, i'm talking about mentality that defines the powers that be.

but even if we would take them out of the equation, we are still dealing with the human nature. there would always be domination and by eliminating one power, we create space for another. i see no escape form this. my only hope is that that the human nature we know of is also a false construct of the elitist programming and not a predicament. but it's very difficult to tell as for millenniums we have all been part of their ongoing experiment.

Clinteastwood's picture

Human nature is fundamentally depraved.  Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.........absent the fear of Almighty God.  Until Christ returns, there will be only varying degrees of despotism.  These last 237 years of our Constitutional Republic are an anomaly in the history of the world..........entrusted to us by founding fathers whose intellect and actions were guided by wisdom that comes only through prayer. 

spine001's picture

You are so right. In MN, Ventura won unexpectedly, he never expected to win, but in MN you are going to find the least number of sheeple among voters in the whole nation. People saw through the two party facade and out of reject voted for Jesse.

Once he won, he got threatened and openly talked about it, his biggest issue was to get enough protection to feel safe, he never got it and was forced to thread carefully.

He didn't want a second term.

Ludwig Van's picture



So can we interpret Ventura's willingness to run *with Paul as his running mate* an expression of willingness to make the supreme sacrifice?



spentCartridge's picture


You need to write a book or something, as far as I am concerned, you are the most erudite of posters here at the hedge.

I regard everything you say as posted to being very much more relevant than anything ever written by any other individual. Period.

I also subscribe to your very accurate position regards following the sayings (your included of course) of any other man (not person), and find you to be a very true inspiration and uplifting spirit in what is now our very darkest of times ...

Sincerely, thank you.

bank guy in Brussels's picture

The elephant in the room for a New American Revolution, still only getting hinted at by such leading dissidents as Jesse Ventura, is the corruption of the US judges

More than Obama / Bush or Congress, the corruption of US judges including Supreme Court, is the centre phenomenon in the corruption of America

A 'Constitution' ir New America is only worth something with honest judges to enforce it ... not a reality in the USA

The USA has even begun murdering US federal judges who do not co-operate

If a judge does not play along ... the judge faces the fate of US Federal Judge John Roll shot dead in Tucson, Arizona, 8 January 2011, shortly after ruling against Obama and the US gov't ... drugged up 'lone gunman' promptly supplied, 'confessing' and otherwise barely seen after disappearing into the US gulag ... barely covered by the media but the powerful message to all the judges, that helped convince Chief Justice Roberts to rule in favour of Obamacare

Judge John Roll was the actual target that day in what is called the 'Gabrielle Giffords shooting', after the wounded Congresswoman shot next to Judge Roll ... media are hiding the real story because Judge Roll's murder was a message to the other US judges, rather than to the people


And as NSA whistleblower Russell Tice (more important than Edward Snowden) pointed out, all US judges including the Supreme Court are under continuous NSA surveillance for blackmail.


Bribing, extorting, intimidating US judges is at the very centre of Americans losing all their rights, but media deflect onto the less-important Obama or Bush or Congress.

There is total terrorism in the USA even for those who try to speak against corrupt judges

All across America, lawyers like Richard Fine in Los Angeles, instantly lose their law licence and are even jailed, if they dare to make a court filing against corrupt judges

Journalists like Glenn Greenwald were and are always afraid to cover judicial bribery and corruption, despite Greenwald's 'bravery' writing about Snowden for the Rothschild family's UK Guardian


This is also the problem after a New American Revolution

You will still have the same gang of thousands of bribery-tainted judges used to having dictatorial powers

And a million US lawyers - at least half of them guilty of some crime of robbing and raping and jailing the innocent - who will all want to control the US legal system again

Unless America fully de-Nazifies, which means aggressively acting against several hundred thousand lawyers and judges of the old regime, America would continue as a hopelessly corrupt country, even after a revolution


« If people ...  don’t trust federal judges, to make sure that we’re abiding by the Constitution with due process and rule of law, then we’re going to have some problems here. » - Barack Obama

Some 'problems' indeed ... Debt Bro Obama is indeed pointing to what will ultimately make the US illusion unravel, the key collapsing fiction about the USA ... that the US courts are fake, totally fake


Americans submit to the myth that the 'Supreme Court' is supreme, when in fact it is not, not even in the US Constitution

Early US 'Founding Fathers' apparently warned this was the big flaw in the Constitution, its machinery would end up as judicial tyranny, corrupt judges declaring what is 'legal' what is 'Constitutional' even what is true

In the US Constitution, Congress is supreme and has unlimited power to remove any Federal or Supreme Court Judge merely for 'lack of good behaviour', e.g., not honouring the Constitution, by simple vote of Senate after House vote to impeach a judge

But they almost never do that ... the Congressmen on the House Judiciary Committee who get bold are either murdered (Congressman Sonny Bono in the 1990s) ...

Judiciary Chairman John Conyers threatened with death, with his wife jailed to underscore the threat (2008-09). Detroit black Conyers was duped by Obama hype, and was about to launch an anti-judicial-corruption campaign, when terrorised into silence about his massive US judge corruption files

There is no future for American unless their judge corruption problem is addressed with the firmness of radical  removal and conviction of judges who made America what it is now

DoChenRollingBearing's picture

VERY interesting, bank guy.  I had not read this before, if all of this is true along the lines you suggest, than, yes, "Houston, we have a proble".  A big problem...

Talleyrand's picture

Now, why would you not expect the judiciary to be the most corrupt group within the rotten political class?


Harbanger's picture

That explains why we have 1 lawyer for every 10 people and 8 lawyers for every one scientist.  Lawyers should be banned from serving political office.  That would get rid of 90% of the current political class.

spentCartridge's picture

I don't think that liars (lawyers) need to be admonished here. After all, they are 'just doing their job', right?

We just need to take every last one of those lying mofos out to the woodshed & do the decent thing ...

Sledge hammer is a better tool for these criminal entities than a brass/lead round. More messy? Yes, but just and effective ... also, yes.

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

I'd "bust down" the lawyers in the political rank to the level of being the "word-smiths" of all legislation -- after is has been passed by non-legal Congressmen.

spentCartridge's picture

Subject matter jurisdiction, bithchez

Ask a fucking question ...

... answer with a question ...

Bitchez ...


Gringo Viejo's picture

@bankguy re: corrupt judiciary

But one example. TWICE, the people of California voted down gay marriage. It was overturned by a federal judge in San Francisco who gay.

MoneyThimbles's picture

And would those people, let me think..., be mostly... hetero?

Gringo Viejo's picture

Yes they would. That being to your question...a true progressive position (devoid of logic and based wholly on emotion) as we are dealing with the outcome of a referendum dealing with state law not individual sexual identity. I've never questioned the intellect of progressives but have yet to meet one with a level of emotional maturity greater than that of a teenager. In are children in adult bodies and unaware of it.

Constitutional Republic's picture

Excellent summary, bank-guy. A 'friend' told me at the time that a politically motivated assassination is best concealed by diverting attention to the nearby victim/s. There was a double advantage for the dark arts in that Gifford incident: it reignited the campaign to ban guns. 

I notice the Gifford story failed to get mass public sympathy in defense of 'heroic' politicians,, despite the constant media campaign,  standing ovations in Congress etc.

'A battle plan rarely survives first contact with the enemy.' It's outrageous that some dominant forces in .gov now consider truth to be the enemy of the state, so they adapt accordingly, and find new targets.

Lost Word's picture

Reagan shooting history calls Brady the main gun victim,

but Media ignores Bush Skull and Bones assassination conspiracy coup d'etat attempt.

putaipan's picture

i ask this every time the subject of corupt judiciary comes up ... because i CANNOT find it myself. it really has been scrubbed from the internet-

who is the whistleblower that has been granted political refugee status in some nordic country for his revelations regareding judicial corruption?

please? anyone? i'm pretty good at sussing stuff out, but this one stumps me every time.

putaipan's picture

and every time i ask, i go off for about an hour usually coming up empty handed- but this time i think i got it. Ritt Goldstein 1996. it's not as interesting as i remember it, but i'm pretty sure that's the guy i was thinking of. ..... nevermind.

moneybots's picture

"If a judge does not play along ... the judge faces the fate of US Federal Judge John Roll shot dead in Tucson, Arizona, 8 January 2011, shortly after ruling against Obama and the US gov't ... drugged up 'lone gunman' promptly supplied, 'confessing' and otherwise barely seen after disappearing into the US gulag ... barely covered by the media but the powerful message to all the judges, that helped convince Chief Justice Roberts to rule in favour of Obamacare"


Corporations are people.  So much for any powerful messages to Justice Roberts.

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

Most excellent BGIB!  Your posts just keep getting better.  Why you got junked, I don't know.

As for keeping lawyers out, I'd advocate a truly representative system in Congress:  That congressmen have truer demographic representation, by having various educated and success classes represented.  E.g. Doctors (like Ron Paul), Scientists, Engineers, Project Managers, real (old-school) Executives, Entrepreneurs.

Lost Word's picture

Congressman Sonny Bono died in a downhill snow skiing accident. Possibly suicide.

Corrupt and cowardly Judges and Justices have all failed or have been afraid to take the case of Unconstitutional Fraud Obama who is Not a Natural Born Citizen, and Not eligible to be President.

Clashfan's picture

Sherman Skolnick had a lot to say about US judges.

BandGap's picture

The NSA dirt is the ultimate power in the universe.

Never forget that judges enforce the executive decrees that aloow this, and past, presidents to side step Congress.

Keyser's picture

"At least Piers Morgan will be leaving CNN at some point soon.  Read that he and his agent were given a pink slip last week."

It couldn't happen to a nicer guy. /sarc

His ratings on CNN are at the bottom of the barrel for all cable news shows. 

Perhaps there will be a spot for him of American Idol.