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Jesse Ventura Calls For "American Revolution" Against The "Corrupt System"

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The irony of Jesse Ventura calling for a new "American Revolution" in a conversation with Brit Piers Morgan is not lost on us but the former Governor of Minnesota asks some awkwardly open questions in this 'colorful' interview. Ventura asked if the government's shut down, "That should mean we shouldn't have to pay any taxes, right?" He called for another American revolution to push back against the "corrupt system" created by Democrats and Republicans in Washington. He told Morgan the two-party system has legalized "bribery" for access, suggesting he's fed up enough to actually run for president in 2016. Ventura called both parties "gangs," and Morgan admitted he had to agree, adding that they're "overpaid, underworked children!" The discussion then veers from Obamacare, Ventura's run for President, and the JFK conspiracy.




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Sat, 10/05/2013 - 12:52 | 4025719 suteibu
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It doesn't matter if most of what he says is spot on, he's already been labeled as a flaming kook by the media and those who control it.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 12:56 | 4025728 Pladizow
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Pepsi vs. Coke - Different cans, same shit inside!

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:02 | 4025735 bigdumbnugly
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to be led of course by none other than......... jesse himself i presume.

"now let's talk about my book..."

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:27 | 4025820 Herd Redirectio...
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Meanwhile, the Kenya shooting is already being revised in the history books.  As usual, the amount of gunmen has been downgraded from the initial 10-15 down to 4 (to 6). So let me guess, if an eye witness comes forward and IDs someone not among these 4 they are mistaken, right?

Perfect way for the experienced mercs to participate.  Because, when you work for money, you have to live to spend it.  These guys were involved, sure, but they are the patsies, the ones who didn't get away, basically.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:46 | 4025848 FEDbuster
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At least Piers Morgan will be leaving CNN at some point soon.  Read that he and his agent were given a pink slip last week.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:50 | 4025864 CH1
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Stop obeying the regime and it will fall!

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 14:22 | 4025942 Stackers
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George Washington Farewell Address


I have already intimated to you the danger of parties in the State, with particular reference to the founding of them on geographical discriminations. Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party generally.

This spirit, unfortunately, is inseparable from our nature, having its root in the strongest passions of the human mind. It exists under different shapes in all governments, more or less stifled, controlled, or repressed; but, in those of the popular form, it is seen in its greatest rankness, and is truly their worst enemy.

The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries which result gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of public liberty.

Without looking forward to an extremity of this kind (which nevertheless ought not to be entirely out of sight), the common and continual mischiefs of the spirit of party are sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it.

It serves always to distract the public councils and enfeeble the public administration. It agitates the community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms, kindles the animosity of one part against another, foments occasionally riot and insurrection. It opens the door to foreign influence and corruption, which finds a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions. Thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 14:52 | 4026006 Midas
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What percent of the twitter generation or owners of "smart" phones are going to develop the skills to write like G. Washington?  We'll give them 16 years of education, $50,000 in college debt and the information age as a head start.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 15:13 | 4026044 Oldballplayer
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I am over 50 with a masters, and I have to read it very, very slowly.

That is some fancy prose there.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 17:12 | 4026318 jerry_theking_lawler
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those guys (aka founding fathers) were true intellectuals....its a shame we didn't listen to them and follow the rules they set could have been a spectacular society.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 00:15 | 4027083 old naughty
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The dumb down happened since...

part and parcel of the chess game.

And then, one should expect a re-volution in intellect acquiring, no?

Time now?

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 00:17 | 4027091 spine001
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Ventura returned unused tax money to the people of MN, has any other politician ever done that?

He was hated by all parties in MN for telling the truth as he saw it. Superb governor.

He was so antistablishment that he spent his whole term scared for his life and that of his family. He didn't want to run for a second term, eventhough he'd have won.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 01:32 | 4027154 FL_Conservative
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Ventura's a moron.  Sure, I can agree with him on isolated topics here and there, but the guy is just another self-promoter who is out for himself.  Did you hear his thoughts on healthcare?  "The government should pay for everyone's healthcare if only we stopped with all these wars" (paraphrased).  Yes, Jesse, I/we agree the government should stop with all the war-making.  It's bankrupting the country, killing/maining our precious youth that get sent to do the dirty-work and making enemies around the world.  But healthcare is each individual's responsibility to provide for themselves and their family.  The answer, Jesse, is that the USA needs a direct-pay system, not a single-payer system (that the Statists want) or a crony-insured payer system (that the neo-statists want).  Oh....and good luck with the notion that you or anyone will mount a serious run for POTUS outside of the 2 established parties.  Both those parties and the controlled media won't give you the fucking time of day and you'll end up on half of the states' ballots and in none of the debates. The only way to WIN is to get inside an existing party and carve out the cancer sections at a time until the party can be reclaimed.  Any other thinking is pure folly.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 06:22 | 4027289 Moe Howard
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Spot on. How can he be a libertarian and be for fedgov healthcare???

A self promoting blowhard.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 14:13 | 4031156 fallout11
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Because every other industrialized nation on earth already has it, and they're the US's competition for talent and productive endeavours. Besides, it actually LOWERS costs (example: Japan spends less than half, per capita, on "socialized medicine" than the US does).

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 15:59 | 4026148 Freddie
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Edward Snowden was pretty impressive considering he was a high school drop out.  My guess is he is a smart kid.  The media tried to dump on him like he was a drop out.  He is far smarter and more articulate than about 95% of the puppets in DC especially the Kenyan.

It is a shame that we probably will never hear from Snowden again yet that lying usurper POS is on the media 24x7.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 18:49 | 4026584 James
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considering he was a high school drop out...........


I really dislike the continued reference to Edward as a "Dropout" like he's some stupid idiot who would'nt go to class.

Edward Snowden suffers from Epilepsy. He was not physically able to go to school his junior and senior year. The man was and is sick.

Edward also had a relapse, a seizure, mere months before we all learned of him.

I think that's one of the reasons Edward came forward. Edward knows he's not long for this world. In my 57 years i've had three friends who were epileptic and they all passed on before the age of 40.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 15:40 | 4026070 Radical Marijuana
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Great quote, Stackers!  However, I would have emphasized the last two lines more than those lines in the middle that you emphasized. As Jesse Ventura stated, in the video above, the main theme in American politics has become BRIBERY.  In the past, the most crucial forms that took were the ways that the international bankers were able to corrupt Congress enough to demonetize silver, way back in the 1870s. Since then, that BRIBERY has become institutionalized, everywhere one looks! The school systems, the mass media, and so on and so forth, were all gradually captured and controlled by the way that their systems were funded. All the way along, the BRIBERY was backed up by INTIMIDATION and ASSASSINATION.

Having Red Puppet Team vs. Blue Puppet Team makes it easier for those in the background to pull both their strings, primarily by how much they get funded, or not funded. Of course, roughly speaking, less than 1% provided almost 100% of the funding for politics, while 99% of the people tended to fund nothing. That has automatically run away, into positive feedbacks which are amplifying themselves to the point of self-destruction.

The great tragedy is that there is nothing that actually keeps "democracy" going within the rule of law, after the rule of law itself has its control captured by the biggest gangs of criminals. Obviously, the USA now has passed beyond the rule of law, into a world where the best organized gangs of criminals control the government, and therefore, are able to get the Democrats, and/or the Republicans, to legalize their lies, and to legalize the violence to back up those lies.

When one looks at the history of the BRIBERY, one sees that historically the most important was the influence of the international banksters. However, in modern times the biggest source of BRIBERY has been the funding from the profit from disease medical businesses. Obamacare is the current manifestation of the biggest single significant form of BRIBERY, in contemporary politics, which is the influence of the profit from disease systems upon the regulation of the medical businesses.

However, if it were not them, then it would surely become some other special interest group in the future. Even IF one could overcome the already deeply entrenched advantages of the already established systems, including the well-developed brainwashing done by the schools and the mass media, there is still the problem of ASSASSINATION. The only Presidents who do NOT get assassinated are those who agree to be puppets of the dominant organized crime gangs, that are used to controlling the world covertly. IF there was some political candidates who were able to actually challenge the power of the dominant organized crime gangs, that already control the Democrats and the Republicans, then it is practically guaranteed that they would be ASSASSINATED TOO.

People like Ron Paul or Jesse Ventura are only safe to the degree that they could not succeed, with everything, like the mass media, stacked against them. Although I agree with the theory that there should be an intellectual second American Revolution, in order to work, that would have to NOT be based on any charismatic leader, because otherwise that movement could be killed when he or she was ASSASSINATED. Unfortunately, especially given how the school systems and mass media work, it is practically impossible to imagine politics that was not stupid little monkeys supporting their tribe, and their leader, instead of intelligent individuals united effectively, in ways which did not depend upon a figurehead to focus upon.

The long history of the triumph of organized crime taking control of the government of the USA has no practical solutions that I can see ... There will eventually be an insane "Second American Revolution," but only as the established systems of legalized lies, backed by legalized violence get so completely crazy and corrupt that they cause themselves to collapse into chaos.

I regard Jesse Ventura as being remarkably brave, since the more successful he was, then the more guaranteed the backlash would become to discredit or destroy him, and he surely knows that as well as anyone else. I like what he says, but it all looks way too little, way too late, now ...

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 16:06 | 4026156 WillyGroper
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We are Indonesia.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 16:13 | 4026173 Constitutional ...
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Term limits would alleviate the worst effects that we now see dominate CONgress with individuals who spend more time in DC than their original constituencies. The newly elected Senator Markey of MA is a prime example; decades in DC and Maryland, a darling of his Democrat Party machine. 

When the vote on Syria was taken, he registered 'present', if my memory is correct.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 16:52 | 4026253 object_orient
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I'm not sure term limits would help much, if at all. New congressmen don't know the ins and outs of office, but their staffers do. Veteran staffers are the ones who do research, shape policy, write legislation and work closely with lobbyists. They aren't usually in the public eye yet are the real power behind the throne.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 23:44 | 4027047 Clinteastwood
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Got that right.  Ever hear of the K Street lawyers?

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 17:40 | 4026402 layman_please
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so assuming independent nonparty candidate gets elected. what options does he have? he would cry out for people after attempts to approach or even intimidate him were made? of course msm would go silent on him immediately or even turn to ridicule to lead the way to get him out of the office. entire governmental system is built up by those non-elected forces, running president is just a visitor in the white house. he would be literally on his own and secret service would be the first one to get him. so you are completely right, intellectual revolution would be the only way, though first this would require revolution of the mind because at the moment majority still lives in a parallel universe and i can't even start to imagine what would shake them up from the stupor, though one by one the awakening is happening every single day.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 18:08 | 4026491 Radical Marijuana
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Good little clip! What goes around, comes around. What "American" forces did to dozens of other countries is returning to be done to Americans. What was not stopped before, eventually comes home!

The deep dilemma is that nobody guards the guardians, and there is no practical way to stop the short-term expediency of lies, backed by violence, "succeeding" to drive society into the madness of being controlled by lies, which is not a sane way to control civilization!

The best we might be able to do is have more people understand that, in order to balance out the runaway triumph of those frauds. However, the depressing social facts continue to appear that too many Americans still believe the HUGE LIES, although fewer do so every day ...

IF enough people woke up enough, so that their alternative leaders would be believed when they revealed deeper, radical truths, then there might emerge better dynamic equilibria in the arms race between different systems of organized lies? However, so far I see not enough indications that enough people have woken up enough to stop the ruling classes to continue having a relatively easy cake walk, when they promote their old-fashioned HUGE LIES.

In my view, the "intellectual second American Revolution" would be enough Americans be able to go THROUGH the looking glass shown to them by the mass media, which projects a Bizarro Mirror World view, in which pretty everything important is shown in ways which are as backwards as it is possible to be!

That would require going way past mere "cynicism," to embrace a different world view about how everything actually always worked, so that, with that different world view, more realistic politics would be possible ...

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 20:15 | 4026685 layman_please
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entire human civilization (it's not even question of western or eastern cultures) going back thousands of years is nothing less than artificial false narrative which nowadays is inserted into young minds in school and which is further consolidated by the society. waking up means going back to school which requires curiosity and also will to accept of being wrong or plane stupid. in other words, it shatters the old world view which, from personal viewpoint, is not different form the world itself. what i'm trying to say is that it's not only lies they believe, it's the reality itself for the majority. these are the grounds on which their identity is built upon and by changing it, they would be lost as the narrative was the firm footing for their entire existence. 

what i'm actually looking forward for is another major false flag as it would be the litmus test to expose the population's mindset. if they won't fall for it, then it will backfire massively and accelerate the awakening. though i wouldn't call it a victory. we are dealing with social engineers who's ideology has prevailed thousands of years almost continuously. they would just change the direction if they already haven't done so because the things are not looking so good for them anymore. i'm not talking about one nefarious group or conspiracy, i'm talking about mentality that defines the powers that be.

but even if we would take them out of the equation, we are still dealing with the human nature. there would always be domination and by eliminating one power, we create space for another. i see no escape form this. my only hope is that that the human nature we know of is also a false construct of the elitist programming and not a predicament. but it's very difficult to tell as for millenniums we have all been part of their ongoing experiment.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 00:06 | 4027071 Clinteastwood
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Human nature is fundamentally depraved.  Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.........absent the fear of Almighty God.  Until Christ returns, there will be only varying degrees of despotism.  These last 237 years of our Constitutional Republic are an anomaly in the history of the world..........entrusted to us by founding fathers whose intellect and actions were guided by wisdom that comes only through prayer. 

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 00:27 | 4027104 spine001
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You are so right. In MN, Ventura won unexpectedly, he never expected to win, but in MN you are going to find the least number of sheeple among voters in the whole nation. People saw through the two party facade and out of reject voted for Jesse.

Once he won, he got threatened and openly talked about it, his biggest issue was to get enough protection to feel safe, he never got it and was forced to thread carefully.

He didn't want a second term.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 12:14 | 4027656 Ludwig Van
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So can we interpret Ventura's willingness to run *with Paul as his running mate* an expression of willingness to make the supreme sacrifice?



Sun, 10/06/2013 - 09:25 | 4027427 spentCartridge
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You need to write a book or something, as far as I am concerned, you are the most erudite of posters here at the hedge.

I regard everything you say as posted to being very much more relevant than anything ever written by any other individual. Period.

I also subscribe to your very accurate position regards following the sayings (your included of course) of any other man (not person), and find you to be a very true inspiration and uplifting spirit in what is now our very darkest of times ...

Sincerely, thank you.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 14:26 | 4025950 bank guy in Brussels
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The elephant in the room for a New American Revolution, still only getting hinted at by such leading dissidents as Jesse Ventura, is the corruption of the US judges

More than Obama / Bush or Congress, the corruption of US judges including Supreme Court, is the centre phenomenon in the corruption of America

A 'Constitution' ir New America is only worth something with honest judges to enforce it ... not a reality in the USA

The USA has even begun murdering US federal judges who do not co-operate

If a judge does not play along ... the judge faces the fate of US Federal Judge John Roll shot dead in Tucson, Arizona, 8 January 2011, shortly after ruling against Obama and the US gov't ... drugged up 'lone gunman' promptly supplied, 'confessing' and otherwise barely seen after disappearing into the US gulag ... barely covered by the media but the powerful message to all the judges, that helped convince Chief Justice Roberts to rule in favour of Obamacare

Judge John Roll was the actual target that day in what is called the 'Gabrielle Giffords shooting', after the wounded Congresswoman shot next to Judge Roll ... media are hiding the real story because Judge Roll's murder was a message to the other US judges, rather than to the people


And as NSA whistleblower Russell Tice (more important than Edward Snowden) pointed out, all US judges including the Supreme Court are under continuous NSA surveillance for blackmail.


Bribing, extorting, intimidating US judges is at the very centre of Americans losing all their rights, but media deflect onto the less-important Obama or Bush or Congress.

There is total terrorism in the USA even for those who try to speak against corrupt judges

All across America, lawyers like Richard Fine in Los Angeles, instantly lose their law licence and are even jailed, if they dare to make a court filing against corrupt judges

Journalists like Glenn Greenwald were and are always afraid to cover judicial bribery and corruption, despite Greenwald's 'bravery' writing about Snowden for the Rothschild family's UK Guardian


This is also the problem after a New American Revolution

You will still have the same gang of thousands of bribery-tainted judges used to having dictatorial powers

And a million US lawyers - at least half of them guilty of some crime of robbing and raping and jailing the innocent - who will all want to control the US legal system again

Unless America fully de-Nazifies, which means aggressively acting against several hundred thousand lawyers and judges of the old regime, America would continue as a hopelessly corrupt country, even after a revolution


« If people ...  don’t trust federal judges, to make sure that we’re abiding by the Constitution with due process and rule of law, then we’re going to have some problems here. » - Barack Obama

Some 'problems' indeed ... Debt Bro Obama is indeed pointing to what will ultimately make the US illusion unravel, the key collapsing fiction about the USA ... that the US courts are fake, totally fake


Americans submit to the myth that the 'Supreme Court' is supreme, when in fact it is not, not even in the US Constitution

Early US 'Founding Fathers' apparently warned this was the big flaw in the Constitution, its machinery would end up as judicial tyranny, corrupt judges declaring what is 'legal' what is 'Constitutional' even what is true

In the US Constitution, Congress is supreme and has unlimited power to remove any Federal or Supreme Court Judge merely for 'lack of good behaviour', e.g., not honouring the Constitution, by simple vote of Senate after House vote to impeach a judge

But they almost never do that ... the Congressmen on the House Judiciary Committee who get bold are either murdered (Congressman Sonny Bono in the 1990s) ...

Judiciary Chairman John Conyers threatened with death, with his wife jailed to underscore the threat (2008-09). Detroit black Conyers was duped by Obama hype, and was about to launch an anti-judicial-corruption campaign, when terrorised into silence about his massive US judge corruption files

There is no future for American unless their judge corruption problem is addressed with the firmness of radical  removal and conviction of judges who made America what it is now

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 14:35 | 4025983 DoChenRollingBearing
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VERY interesting, bank guy.  I had not read this before, if all of this is true along the lines you suggest, than, yes, "Houston, we have a proble".  A big problem...

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 15:28 | 4026085 Talleyrand
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Now, why would you not expect the judiciary to be the most corrupt group within the rotten political class?


Sat, 10/05/2013 - 16:39 | 4026214 Harbanger
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That explains why we have 1 lawyer for every 10 people and 8 lawyers for every one scientist.  Lawyers should be banned from serving political office.  That would get rid of 90% of the current political class.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 11:01 | 4027535 spentCartridge
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I don't think that liars (lawyers) need to be admonished here. After all, they are 'just doing their job', right?

We just need to take every last one of those lying mofos out to the woodshed & do the decent thing ...

Sledge hammer is a better tool for these criminal entities than a brass/lead round. More messy? Yes, but just and effective ... also, yes.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 18:29 | 4026538 Kirk2NCC1701
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I'd "bust down" the lawyers in the political rank to the level of being the "word-smiths" of all legislation -- after is has been passed by non-legal Congressmen.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 11:12 | 4027556 spentCartridge
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Subject matter jurisdiction, bithchez

Ask a fucking question ...

... answer with a question ...

Bitchez ...


Sat, 10/05/2013 - 14:45 | 4025998 Gringo Viejo
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@bankguy re: corrupt judiciary

But one example. TWICE, the people of California voted down gay marriage. It was overturned by a federal judge in San Francisco who gay.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 15:25 | 4026066 MoneyThimbles
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And would those people, let me think..., be mostly... hetero?

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 15:48 | 4026126 Gringo Viejo
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Yes they would. That being to your question...a true progressive position (devoid of logic and based wholly on emotion) as we are dealing with the outcome of a referendum dealing with state law not individual sexual identity. I've never questioned the intellect of progressives but have yet to meet one with a level of emotional maturity greater than that of a teenager. In are children in adult bodies and unaware of it.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 16:09 | 4026165 Rip van Wrinkle
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Comment of the year, bank guy.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 16:24 | 4026192 Constitutional ...
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Excellent summary, bank-guy. A 'friend' told me at the time that a politically motivated assassination is best concealed by diverting attention to the nearby victim/s. There was a double advantage for the dark arts in that Gifford incident: it reignited the campaign to ban guns. 

I notice the Gifford story failed to get mass public sympathy in defense of 'heroic' politicians,, despite the constant media campaign,  standing ovations in Congress etc.

'A battle plan rarely survives first contact with the enemy.' It's outrageous that some dominant forces in .gov now consider truth to be the enemy of the state, so they adapt accordingly, and find new targets.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 21:25 | 4026842 Lost Word
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Reagan shooting history calls Brady the main gun victim,

but Media ignores Bush Skull and Bones assassination conspiracy coup d'etat attempt.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 17:00 | 4026275 putaipan
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i ask this every time the subject of corupt judiciary comes up ... because i CANNOT find it myself. it really has been scrubbed from the internet-

who is the whistleblower that has been granted political refugee status in some nordic country for his revelations regareding judicial corruption?

please? anyone? i'm pretty good at sussing stuff out, but this one stumps me every time.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 18:26 | 4026534 putaipan
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and every time i ask, i go off for about an hour usually coming up empty handed- but this time i think i got it. Ritt Goldstein 1996. it's not as interesting as i remember it, but i'm pretty sure that's the guy i was thinking of. ..... nevermind.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 18:20 | 4026515 moneybots
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"If a judge does not play along ... the judge faces the fate of US Federal Judge John Roll shot dead in Tucson, Arizona, 8 January 2011, shortly after ruling against Obama and the US gov't ... drugged up 'lone gunman' promptly supplied, 'confessing' and otherwise barely seen after disappearing into the US gulag ... barely covered by the media but the powerful message to all the judges, that helped convince Chief Justice Roberts to rule in favour of Obamacare"


Corporations are people.  So much for any powerful messages to Justice Roberts.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 18:24 | 4026529 Kirk2NCC1701
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Most excellent BGIB!  Your posts just keep getting better.  Why you got junked, I don't know.

As for keeping lawyers out, I'd advocate a truly representative system in Congress:  That congressmen have truer demographic representation, by having various educated and success classes represented.  E.g. Doctors (like Ron Paul), Scientists, Engineers, Project Managers, real (old-school) Executives, Entrepreneurs.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 21:17 | 4026835 Lost Word
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Congressman Sonny Bono died in a downhill snow skiing accident. Possibly suicide.

Corrupt and cowardly Judges and Justices have all failed or have been afraid to take the case of Unconstitutional Fraud Obama who is Not a Natural Born Citizen, and Not eligible to be President.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 00:44 | 4027115 Clashfan
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Sherman Skolnick had a lot to say about US judges.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 11:13 | 4027559 BandGap
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The NSA dirt is the ultimate power in the universe.

Never forget that judges enforce the executive decrees that aloow this, and past, presidents to side step Congress.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 14:43 | 4025992 Keyser
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"At least Piers Morgan will be leaving CNN at some point soon.  Read that he and his agent were given a pink slip last week."

It couldn't happen to a nicer guy. /sarc

His ratings on CNN are at the bottom of the barrel for all cable news shows. 

Perhaps there will be a spot for him of American Idol.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 15:41 | 4026111 RaceToTheBottom
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Aside from a sniveling Brit accent, I cannot think of one redeeming value he has shown.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 15:55 | 4026142 Its_the_economy...
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Are you saying a sniveling accent has merit?

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 16:16 | 4026182 RaceToTheBottom
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The way I wrote it, I think I was....  Just that his was extra bad....

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 11:15 | 4027563 BandGap
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Even the Brits hate his ass. Next stop, Australia.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 17:59 | 4026470 Cruel Aid
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not watching that db pm

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:08 | 4025778 Silver Bug
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The system gets more and more corrupt as each day passes.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 15:07 | 4026032 rubiconsolutions
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Anyone who declares they are going to run for high office likely meets the clinical definition for narcissist. Regardless of what they say, when someone implies they can lead a country with 320 million unique individuals they are delusional.

"When a candidate for public office faces the voters he does not face men of sense; he faces a mob of men whose chief distinguishing mark is the fact that they are quite incapable of weighing ideas, or even of comprehending any save the most elemental - men whose whole thinking is done in terms of emotion, and whose dominant emotion is dread of what they cannot understand. So confronted, the candidate must either bark with the pack or be lost... All the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre — the man who can most adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum. The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." - HL Mencken

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 10:20 | 4027479 Zero Point
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Guy goes on national TV and can't wear a shirt an adult might wear?


Sat, 10/05/2013 - 12:56 | 4025736 Seize Mars
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...and you care what the media thinks?

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:53 | 4025867 CH1
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Start telling everyone you can that the media is for suckers. (Grocery stores, job sites, etc.)

They will fight against the idea at first, but they need to hear it.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 14:28 | 4025960 dick cheneys ghost
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hey u stoopid ape.........the MSM is controlled by the "cheespopes" go F urself

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 14:39 | 4025988 CH1
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Isn't there a Bund meeting you can attend somewhere?

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 16:06 | 4026161 Freddie
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I have been telling people to unplug the TV and Hollywood.  The masses traded liberty for a clicker.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:02 | 4025752 Surging Chaos
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Even if he's labeled as a crackpot/kook/whatever, it's still a miracle he can actually still get interviewed on the MSM.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 14:00 | 4025894 Renewable Life
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Be careful Jesse, you keep talking like that on the MSM in todays America and will be talking about "your death as a conspiracy"!!!

But I hope you run man!!!

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 16:32 | 4026203 Things that go bump
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Talk about a flaming narcisist. 

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 17:05 | 4026293 putaipan
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show me the cabinet! i will not vote for anyone that does not reveal their entire cabinet before the election.

epecially a 'wild card'.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 16:38 | 4026216 Constitutional ...
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The phrase 'set 'em up and knock 'em down' comes to mind. The timing of this interview with crook Piers Morgue fits with that set-up.

That's Piers Morgue who profited from insider trading when he was editor of a British newspaper, but his reporters went to jail for it. Piers Morgue who ran fake pictures of British troops 'abusing' their captives. Piers Morgue, arse licker in chief; always near the scene of crimes against journalism, but protected by his handlers; a very useful propagandist. Notice how he always pours disdain on American laws and values, whereas he was a major cheerleader in Britain for the lying, warmongering 'New Labour' regime.

He never met a pay cheque he didn't like, nor a lie too big to purvey.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:08 | 4025773 whatsinaname
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Heard this from a Minnesottan and not sure how true it is - apparently Jesse was like a Brewster's Millionaire candidate and never expected to win but somehow he got elected. Upon winning he ended up surrounding himself with good people who really meant well for the state which produced positive results. That explains his popularity and eventual success.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 14:43 | 4025994 Dr. No
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The opposition were zeros. Narm Colmen and Hubert Humphrey. I voted for Ventura thinking there was no way in hell. Woke up the next morning and couldnt believe my ears. Some great quote as gov:

" you haven't hunted until you've hunted man"
" religion is for the weak minded"

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 16:09 | 4026171 Calmyourself
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Yes all the children in Mn voted for him and then he (with the sole exception of car registrations) voted Demorat every chance he got.. Suing Chris Kyle's widow, yeah he's a peach..

Let me guess you voted for Al Franken as well..

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 22:27 | 4026482 Things that go bump
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Ah, yes - I have many fond memories of his term. Because of his inability to accept criticism of any sort, his running feud with the press was epic and a constant source of amusement. Shame on them, but it got so that they baited him deliberately just to elicit the predictable response. While it is true we got a tax rebate, he emptied the rainy day fund to do it, and so there was no rainy day fund when it was needed. I bought a pack of cigarettes out of my rebate, but I'm probably still paying on the loan. While the Venturas didn't live in the Governor's mansion, his son used it as a party house where he entertained his friends. Damages occured during the drunken debauchery, staff publically complained - an unprecidented occurrence. The lovely Terry was not entirely on board with the whole adventure and initially refused to serve as our first lady, though I think she relented, as I seem to remember a picture of her looking akward and uncomfortable in a long gown, while greeting a delegation of some sort. Though it may be an antiquated convention, it is a convention nevertheless that when you elect a married head of state you get a team. While over the years some of the edges may have been rubbed off that particular diamond in the rough, and as far as I can tell she has no visible tattoos, hostess of the State of Minnesota was certainly far outside of her comfort zone and she, at least, had the good sense to know it. Whatever comes of this, do not let her redecorate the White House.

Oh, I forgot the best part - He left office before his term was over. I think he got bored.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 19:05 | 4026612 Zero Point
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Yeah, but do you really think the stupid Tshirt and haircut are an accident?

Just more evidence that "conspiracy theorists" are kooks.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 21:35 | 4026858 Lost Word
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No, Conspiracy historians are independent thinkers, unconventional, extraordinary people.

Unlike idiots who have zero brains.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 02:19 | 4027194 Zero Point
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Hey fuckwit, I was trying to make the point that this guy makes us look bad. Deliberately. Have fun being a sheep though.

I bet you suck up your daily Alex Jones too dumbass.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 09:31 | 4027431 torak
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He was considered a kook by the media prior to winning the Minnesota gubernatorial election in 1998.  Just saying...

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 12:55 | 4025724 SubjectivObject
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The REAL Minnesota Nice.

Not those limp wristed fake ones:  Amy Klobuchar in bed with Lindsey Graham:

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 12:53 | 4025726 MichiganMilitiaMan
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A revolution like this would require a majority of the voting public to be awake, aware and self-educated about these issues, but this is hopelessely not the case.  There may not be a political solution.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:02 | 4025754 explodinghead
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And even if enough people were awake the electronic voting machines would ensure the status quo.  

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 14:06 | 4025909 Paveway IV
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Which is Ventura's big mistake: thinking that the rigged voting process would actually fix anything. It's good for a protest vote against the psychopathic Demopublicans, but they're like a cancer in Washington. Temporarily chopping off the head and replacing it with a healthy one for a few years does not cure anything.

Even so, the goofball will get my vote if he runs. How could things get any worse?

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:55 | 4025875 CH1
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There may not be a political solution.

Whenever I hear someone talking about a political solution, I know I'm not listening to a serious person. - George Carlin

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 12:59 | 4025733 xtop23
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I like a lot of what Jesse has to say, I just wish it was easier to take him seriously.

I could really get behind someone like Judge Napolitano. I would love to see him on stage with the other candidates in 2016 and destroy them. 


Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:12 | 4025783 whatsinaname
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Atleast he knew how to select good people to work for him and give him good advice or so I have heard.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:18 | 4025801 xtop23
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Oh, I agree. The problem is the kook stigma that has been placed on him. It makes it hard to have a successful campaign with that kind of baggage.

The mainstream media has really put the handcuffs on him as a viable candidate.

In this case, dinosaur media has been extremely effective.

Would I vote for him? Sure. He couldn't possibly be worse than the executive heads we've been getting.

He might even get a few things accomplished before the Military Industrial Complex / CIA had him liquidated in favor of more.....pliable....representation.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 16:14 | 4026179 Calmyourself
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You heard wrong, he surrounded himself with far left Demonrat consultants.. 

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:44 | 4025847 Toxicosis
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I would take him much more seriously if he had put Piers in a headlock, and then suplexed him onto a desk.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 16:09 | 4026169 Freddie
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Fireman's carry.  LOL!  Kudos for having him on.  Jesse told the InfoWars guy in Austin, TX that the TV media is totally ignoring him.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 14:10 | 4025913 McMolotov
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'Destroy' is far too mild a word for what the good judge would do to other candidates. I would happily come out of voting retirement despite my new flirtation with anarchism to pull the lever for him, even if the entire process is rigged against our votes making any kind of difference.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 14:46 | 4026000 Mike in GA
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If Judge Napolitano were to run the Propaganda Ministry would call for his head and someone would provide it.  No, politics ain't gonna solve the problem, it IS the problem.  Only the fear of having your blood spilled is gonna change these guys behaviors.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 12:59 | 4025737 Zer0head
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Watch Hoyer and Cantor

Thank the Capitol police for saving them (and killing an unarmed and mentally disturbed black woman)


Where is Sharpton?


Where is Jackson?


for that matter where is the guy who could have been Trayvon's father?

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 14:00 | 4025885 CH1
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Where is Sharpton? Where is Jackson?

Where were the feminists when Ted Kennedy & Bill Clinton were abusing women?

Sucking up to power! Their true God!

It's all bullshit for feeding off of suckers.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:00 | 4025742 vxpatel
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hmmmm....a former pro wrestler sounds like the most reasonable political voice in amerika! it's getting scary!

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:04 | 4025756 SubjectivObject
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Navy SEAL, too.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:15 | 4025793 vxpatel
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yes of course, and like every true soldier/sailor/marine anti war.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:44 | 4025845 caribbeanbarry
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+ Airmen

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 16:06 | 4026157 Its_the_economy...
Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:18 | 4025800 vxpatel
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yes of course, and like every true soldier/sailor/marine anti war.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 14:01 | 4025896 noless
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Ronald Reagan? the actor?

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 14:11 | 4025921 McMolotov
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"Then who's vice-president, Jerry Lewis?"

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 14:56 | 4026014 Crash Overide
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If only I had a time machine...

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 15:42 | 4026109 Zer0head
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"Then who's vice-president, Jerry Lewis?"


LOL  sort of like having a guy who has gone thru life with various assumed names, whose records are sealed and he becomes President and chooses Joe Biden.


Sat, 10/05/2013 - 14:58 | 4026015 Keyser
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My vote would be Tom Cruise as VP, playing Goldmember. 


Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:01 | 4025743 blabam
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"If we get out of all of these wars we would have enough money for healthcare" Dollar collapse says no. 

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 15:00 | 4026020 Keyser
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Dollar collapse will trump any liberal, progessive agenda. I don't care how long Harry Reid holds his breath and stomps his feet. 


Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:02 | 4025746 A Lunatic
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I'd pay good money to see him body-slam Joe Biden.......

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:01 | 4025750 ConfederateH
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That could mean only one thing: vice president Alex Jones

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:06 | 4025766 SubjectivObject
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Vice President .... Ron Paul

Real backup for the inevitable.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:12 | 4025785 xtop23
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Ted Cruz maybe? I'm still deciding whether or not he's legitimate and worthy of support.

We've gotten burned so many times I'm pretty gun shy where politicians are concerned.

My inner voice says they're all full of excrement and that the whole lot of 'em are corrupt to the core.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:20 | 4025802 vxpatel
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cruz? are you joking? he's another christian maniac.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:29 | 4025812 xtop23
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Dude, they're all batshit crazy. Cult of personality and all that. I'm at the point in American politics where if they do anything even remotely constitutional I am interested.

If for nothing else, then real issues might be brought up on a national stage and wake more people up to the farcical reality that is our "representative" government.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 14:01 | 4025897 vxpatel
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I hear you...but I don't think the answer comes from within the established two party system. both sides are as insane as the inbred elites that pay them and write the bills that become our laws. I'd vote for jesse as president.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 15:24 | 4026067 snaphooker
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Cruz is a man of the people whose wife works for Goldman

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 15:35 | 4026097 vxpatel
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HAHAHA...more of the same...just a little louder of an actor. when he was on his knees praying, that's when i knew he was real....a real POS.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 17:12 | 4026323 putaipan
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show me the cabinet !!

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 21:45 | 4026884 Lost Word
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Unfortunately, Ted Cruz seems Not to be a Natural Born Citizen, and therefore Not Constitutionally eligible for Prez or VP.

Best Hope = Ted Cruz, Majority Leader of the Senate.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 02:33 | 4027200 sessinpo
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Lost Word   "Unfortunately, Ted Cruz seems Not to be a Natural Born Citizen, and therefore Not Constitutionally eligible for Prez or VP.

Best Hope = Ted Cruz, Majority Leader of the Senate."



If that were true, this wouldn't be open for debate, but it is. Thus your statement may not be correct.

"One common phrasing of objections to Rubio, Jindal and Cruz being deemed “natural born Citizens” is that, regardless of where they were born, both parents would have had to be citizens.

That argument is devoid of almost any support.  The text does not say so.  There is no demonstrable evidence that is what the Framer’s intended, or that’s how the term was commonly understood at the time of drafting.  Such a requirement also is not found in the almost contemporaneous Naturalization Act of 1790, or even in British law"

One common problem is the actual defining of Natural Born Citizen. One born within the US, is. But the unclear definition from the courts to the Constititution leave it unclear whether simply being born of one or both American parents is suffidient. Neither is dual citizenship declared a descriminatory factor. Thus, the open question remains.


Personally, I am done with Presidents and all politicians. NO ONE, IMHO, should have such power. Yes, granted, I would like a force that can provide some protection from outside enemies. But it is evidently clear to me, that is a fine line that when a Government controlled by any party (left, right or even center) from any ideology exceeds that responsibility, the Government has become the enemy from within - by definition.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:03 | 4025757 q99x2
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Revolution. All 50 states of the United States of America against Wall Street and Washington D.C. terrorists and traitors.

My bet is with the States.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 14:50 | 4026005 vxpatel
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state and even local police are arming themselves to the teeth...just because of what you are saying is becoming reality.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 16:51 | 4026250 vxpatel
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i want to know which one of you pu$$ys gave me a down arrow! who is the traitor on zh....

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:03 | 4025762 Mae Kadoodie
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Lose the pony tail Jesse.  Go mullett!

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:18 | 4025798 Kirk2NCC1701
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He's a fiscal conservative:  He's frugal, since he can cut his own pony tail.

Sometimes you have to look at the problem from a different angle, not just the one you were taught.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:05 | 4025767 Idiocracy
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run Jesse run!

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:05 | 4025770 DOGGONE
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Hey Jesse, Show everybody THIS:
"The Public Be Suckered"
It will get heads out into the light!

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:07 | 4025774 skbull44
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The CIA, Mob, military-industrial complex, and many more will never let Jesse's vision get anywhere. Look at how they've been able to keep Ron Paul from getting too far...when 'revolution' comes to the States it'll be anything but non-violent.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:59 | 4025888 greatbeard
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>> able to keep Ron Paul

With all due respect, Paul has all the personality and charisma of an old dishrag. This is a media and sound byte driven society unable to think independently, but they can respond to simple visual/sound stimulation.  Jesse may be enough of a showman to get enough support to have some effect.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 09:03 | 4027404 nmewn
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"This is a media and sound byte driven society unable to think independently, but they can respond to simple visual/sound stimulation."

Yes, too true.

Minnesota sent Al Franken to the United States senate. Al Franken folks, a comedian, to the United States senate.

(Shaking head and mumbling incoherently)

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:09 | 4025775 55 men
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I dont mean to spam this but i felt like sharing....when we talk about healthcare and the huge problem with it, its always funny that the gov. Thinks that no doctors would ever do any charity work.... Well ive got at least 7 doctors giving there time and skills and providing a free dental day on this saturday .... They are working until 5:30 and doing as much as they can...i am a firm believer that if the gov would get out ofthe way we would see alot more doctors doing charity work and offering there services...

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:16 | 4025792 Yellowhoard
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Better yet, give physicians a tax credit for time spent on the indigent.

A lot of Doctors that aren't currently charitable would start seeing uninsured patients if they could offset income taxes with the visit.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 14:15 | 4025931 W74
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As anti-gov as I am I believe Doctors, Dentists, Physician's assistants and Nurses are one of the only education programs we as a society should subsidize.

Of course the failures get nothing and have to pay their tab, but those who are successful (hell make the standards even more rigid) get their debts billed to the taxpayer.  That's fine by me since we could significantly increase the number of doctors this way and healthcare costs would go down.

And as anti-gov as I am we need to regulate public hospitals.  Private can do whatever, but there needs to be limits as to what administrators and paper pushers can make, and how much a hospital can charge for time spent in a bed (often thousands an hour). 

It's not about insurance, it's about the principle.  Everyone's thinking in the wrong vein.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 14:54 | 4026009 W74
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Because we sure as fuck don't need any more English majors.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 15:28 | 4026079 55 men
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I must have got down voted by obama

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 00:54 | 4027124 Clinteastwood
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You postulate incorrectly that we could have better health if we decided to educate more doctors/nurses/providers.  However, no healthcare system will ever be any better than the sum of the excellence of the population's good-hearted providers.  That excellence (and those hearts) are not something you can attain as a matter of policy.....that is a gift from God.  

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:08 | 4025779 yogibear
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The MSM and people in charge know the sheeple won't organize and revolt.

Just in case the Department of Homeland Security just purchased more hollow points. With over 2 billion rounds within the last couple of years. 

In other words if the American people get out of line the people in power will just shoot them.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 16:03 | 4026149 bunnyswanson
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ACA may be the straw.  From what I gather by reading the various stories, this health coverage will send people living in suburbia into the ghetto.

Phil Dedrick I was in my neighborhood restaurant this morning and was seated behind a group of jubilant individuals celebrating the coming implementation of the health care bill. I could not finish my breakfast. This is what ensued:

They were a diverse group of several races and both sexes. I heard a young man exclaim, “Isn’t Obama like Jesus Christ? I mean, after all, he is healing the sick.”

A young woman enthusiastically proclaimed, “Yeah, and he does it for free. I cannot believe anyone would think that a free market wouldn't work for health care.”

Another said, "The stupid Republicans want us all to starve to death so they can inherit all of the power. Obama should be made a Saint for what he did for those of us less fortunate.”

At this, I had more than enough. I arose from my seat, mustering all the restraint I could find, and approached their table. “Please excuse me; may I impose upon you for one moment?”

They smiled and welcomed me to the conversation. I stood at the end of their table, smiled as best I could and began an experiment.
“I would like to give one of you my house. It will cost you no money and I will pay all of the expenses and taxes for as long as you live there. Anyone interested?”

They looked at each other in astonishment. “Why would you do something like that?” asked a young man, “There isn’t anything for free in this world.”
They began to laugh at me, as they did not realize this man had just made my point.

“I am serious, I will give you my house for free, no money whatsoever. Anyone interested?”

In unison, a resounding “Yeah” fills the room.
“Since there are too many of you, I will have to make a choice as to who receives this money-free bargain.”

I noticed an elderly couple was paying attention to the spectacle unfolding before their eyes, the old man shaking his head in apparent disgust.

“I tell you what; I will give it to the one of you most willing to obey my rules.”

Again, they looked at one another, an expression of bewilderment on their faces.

The perky young woman asked, “What are the rules?”

I smiled and said, “I don’t know. I have not yet defined them. However, it is a free home that I offer you.”

They giggled amongst themselves, the youngest of which said, “What an old coot. He must be crazy to give away his home. Go take your meds, old man.”

I smiled and leaned into the table a bit further. “I am serious, this is a legitimate offer.”

They gaped at me for a moment.
“I’ll take it you old fool. Where are the keys?” boasted the youngest among them.

“Then I presume you accept ALL of my terms then?” I asked.

The elderly couple seemed amused and entertained as they watched from the privacy of their table. “Oh yeah! Where do I sign up?”

I took a napkin and wrote, “I give this man my home, without the burden of financial obligation, so long as he accepts and abides by the terms that I shall set forth upon consummation of this transaction.”
I signed it and handed it to the young man who eagerly scratched out his signature.

"Where are the keys to my new house?” he asked in a mocking tone of voice.

All eyes were upon us as I stepped back from the table, pulling the keys from pocket and dangling them before the excited new homeowner.

“Now that we have entered into this binding contract, witnessed by all of your friends, I have decided upon the conditions you are obligated to adhere to from this point forward. You may only live in the house for one hour a day. You will not use anything inside of the home. You will obey me without question or resistance. I expect complete loyalty and admiration for this gift I bestow upon you. You will accept my commands and wishes with enthusiasm, no matter the nature. Your morals and principles shall be as mine. You will vote as I do, think as I do and do it with blind faith. These are my terms. Here are your keys.”

I reached the keys forward and the young man looked at me dumbfounded.
“Are you out of your mind? Who would ever agree to those ridiculous terms?” the young man appeared irritated.

“You did when you signed this contract before reading it, understanding it and with the full knowledge that I would provide my conditions only after you committed to the agreement.”

The elderly man chuckled as his wife tried to restrain him. I was looking at a now silenced and bewildered group of people.

“You can shove that stupid deal up your a** old man. I want no part of it!” exclaimed the now infuriated young man.

'You have committed to the contract, as witnessed by all of your friends. You cannot get out of the deal unless I agree to it. I do not intend to let you free now that I have you ensnared. I am the power you agreed to. I am the one you blindly and without thought chose to enslave yourself to. In short, I am your Master.”

At this, the table of celebrating individuals became a unified group against the unfairness of the deal.

After a few moments of unrepeatable comments and slurs, I revealed my true intent.

“What I did to you is what this administration and congress did to you with the health care legislation. I easily suckered you in and then revealed the real cost of the bargain. Your folly was in the belief that you can have something you did not earn, and for that which you did not earn, you willingly allowed someone else to think for you. Your failure to research, study and inform yourself permitted reason to escape you. You have entered into a trap from which you cannot flee. Your only chance of freedom is if your new Master gives it to you. A freedom that is given can also be taken away. Therefore, it is not freedom at all.”

With that, I tore up the napkin and placed it before the astonished young man. “This is the nature of your new health care legislation.”

I turned away to leave these few in thought and contemplation -- and was surprised by applause.

The elderly gentleman, who was clearly entertained, shook my hand enthusiastically and said, “Thank you, Sir. These kids don’t understand Liberty .”

He refused to allow me to pay my bill as he said, “You earned this one. It is an honor to pick up the tab.”

I shook his hand in thanks, leaving the restaurant somewhat humbled and sensing a glimmer of hope for my beloved country.
1. Remember... Four boxes keep us free: the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box.

"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous
by letting the American Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian."
~~~Henry Ford~~~

(I sincerely apologize for length required to post this)

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 17:18 | 4026335 object_orient
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That wasn't worth the payoff

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 21:54 | 4026898 Lost Word
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Apocryphal Parable ?

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 16:27 | 4026196 Freddie
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Hollow point .40s purchased by DHS?  

Good luck against about 5 million licensed hunters and many have scoped .308's used for hunting.    Those hunters can reach out and touch someone.

Also - every neighbor knows what business their neighbor is in.   Women in the neighborhood talk.  They know more than the NSA knows. 

If DHS starts ****ing with the American citizenry then DHS better be at home protecting their families.


Sat, 10/05/2013 - 17:47 | 4026426 jerry_theking_lawler
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yeah, that's cute....they have 'the football'....look it up. I'm a great shot with my .308 but don' think I can stand up to that.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 21:56 | 4026904 Lost Word
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Only possible if there is an active Civil War in your neighborhood.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:14 | 4025790 CPL
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OT:  New branch of Physics - Econophysics

Took physics majors to figure out the size of all the debt in the world.  Not in my wildest dreams...and there isn't enough CPU power on the planet to follow it.  Ever.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 14:47 | 4025999 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 1 for an interesting link, CPL.  I do not know how to assess the "truthiness" of the piece, but thought-provoking, thanks for posting it.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:18 | 4025794 Jack Burton
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Morgan is an establishment Whore. Listen to him pimp for the governments lie machine. He laughs at the facts and says "Who do you think killed him?"  Jessie is right, there is a list of possible suspects.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:23 | 4025809 Kirk2NCC1701
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I hope that the Fed is on that list.  As well as the Bush crime family, with the old man himself sitting in the spider's web.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 13:44 | 4025843 moneybots
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"Morgan is an establishment Whore. Listen to him pimp for the governments lie machine. He laughs at the facts and says "Who do you think killed him?"  Jessie is right, there is a list of possible suspects."


There is a list of imagined suspects.

Oswald unexpectedly went to where his wife lived, the night before.  He took an enclosed package to work the next day.  randle saw him take it to the car.  She said it nearly touched the ground the way he was carrying it.  A rifle is something one would want to hide in a completely enclosed package.

Oswald worked on the sixth floor and that is logically where he would have hid it during the morning.

Harold Norman heard all the shots as coming from above his head on the 5th floor.

Oswald was arrested as a suspect in the shooting of a police officer.  He attempted to shoot a police officer durng his arrest. 

When his brother was allowed to see him in jail, he sat lookiing at Oswald.  Lee responded, "don't bother looking in there, you won't find anything."  Lee said nothing of being innocent, in that comment.

All the credible circumstantial evidence pointed to Oswald, because Oswald was the man who pulled the trigger.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 14:01 | 4025899 W74
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My friend, I have no doubt that Oswald was in the building that day.  I have no doubt he was given a rifle.  I have no doubt he had the intention of shooting JFK.

But he didn't hit the President, he fired, sure, but did not hit.  That was just the frame-up.  Oswald was a sideshow. 

Had Oswald not fired shots I believe the shooters on the Grassy Knoll would've held bac, and other plans would've been set into motion in another city on a different day.

They would've gotten JFK eventually.  It may have been a different patsy.  Another town.  Different shooters....but it would've happened.  There were dozens of contingencies.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 14:39 | 4025986 moneybots
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"My friend, I have no doubt that Oswald was in the building that day.  I have no doubt he was given a rifle.  I have no doubt he had the intention of shooting JFK.

But he didn't hit the President, he fired, sure, but did not hit.  That was just the frame-up.  Oswald was a sideshow."


There was no frame up.  It was Oswald's rifle and he was the one using it.  Harold Norman heard ALL the shots as coming from above his head.  The shots Oswald fired were the ones that hit JFK.

Sat, 10/05/2013 - 15:07 | 4026033 Keyser
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It is immaterial whether the bullet that killed JFK came from the book depository or from the grassy knoll. What does matter is the conspiracy to carry out the deed and who ordered the hit. 


Sat, 10/05/2013 - 17:56 | 4026455 jerry_theking_lawler
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If it wasn't such an 'obvious' setup, I could understand....but a communist sympathizer, who was later killed by a dying 'mob' just can't seriously expect these to all be 'consequences'???

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 10:34 | 4027494 nmewn
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The point at which Oswald had the best shot on JFK is when the motorcade was coming directly toward the building Oswald was in. From the time his car turned off Main onto Houston, the target (JFK) would be getting closer and therefore larger, on basically a straight line (in his scope).

The target would not moving away, getting smaller, as is the case with the actual shooting. Reaquiring a moving target, with a bolt action scoped Caranco, for a second (or third shot) into an eight inch radius, at that distance is almost an impossibility, in the time alloted even by the very best.

Anyone who shoots knows what I'm talking about.

I saw an expert Marine sniper attempt all the above with the same weapon. First shot was a hit, even on a receding into the distance target...all of his followup shots missed.

I don't know who all did it but Oswald was not alone, his may have been the one in the throat or the head but not both.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 14:36 | 4031259 fallout11
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Gunnery Sgt. Carlos Hathcock, a decorated Marine sniper with over 90 confirmed kills to his name, including the longest known shot in history (over 2500 yards), head intructor for the USMC's sniper school, was unable to duplicate Oswald's three hits, despite multiple attempts.

There was more than one shooter in Dealy Plaza that day.

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