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Guest Post: Why The Debt Ceiling Debate Should Be Different This Time

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Why the Debt Ceiling Debate Should Be Different This Time

Same political disfunction. Same blue team indifference to soaring government debt. Same hypocrisy from those on the red team who helped set debt on its upward trajectory. Same lack of any serious effort to tackle the most important issue – the unsustainable paths of our major entitlement programs.

But there is one difference.

We mentioned it in July when we posted preliminary estimates for the Congressional Budget Office’s (CBO) 2013 Long-Term Budget Outlook. Before updating that analysis, though, I’ll repeat my obligatory warning that the CBO’s projections are pure fiction. Here’s a brief recap of the problem:

  1. The CBO publishes projections for a “baseline scenario” and an “alternative scenario.” The baseline gets all the attention, while the alternative is either relegated to the spreadsheets that accompany the reports (as in May’s 10-year projections) or buried deep inside a 100+ page document (as in September’s long-term outlook). Both scenarios are based on a fantasy world of permanent full employment and no budget surprises or recessions. I’ll call them UNICORNs, for Unemployment Never Increases, Crises (anything that throws off budget plans) become Obsolete and Recessions are Nonexistent.
  2. Not only does the baseline scenario assume economic utopia, it also requires lawmakers to behave in ways we haven’t seen since the 1950s. This is partly due to the CBO’s statutes, which require projections to conform to current laws and ignore the modifications and “fixes” that Congress habitually makes. In any case, it’s wholly unrealistic. It requires a revival of Eisenhower-like philosophies of fiscal responsibility. Whereas the alternative scenario is an ordinary UNICORN, I’ll call the baseline scenario GIGANTOR UNICORN. It only plays out if General Ike’s Ghost Arises from the Netherworld and Takes Over the Rotunda.

Here are updated projections for both UNICORNs, comparing September’s CBO report to the scenarios shown in last year’s long-term budget outlook:

debt projection 7

The dramatically different direction for GIGANTOR UNICORN is due to January’s tax law changes, which made the bulk of the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts permanent. As I wrote in July:

In the past, the baseline scenario assumed expiration of virtually all tax cuts going back to 2001, according to statutes requiring projections to follow current laws. This unrealistic assumption left the baseline projection far below the alternative scenario, in which cuts were presumed to be extended per usual practice. And the wildly different results allowed people to conclude whatever they wanted to conclude. For those who aren’t inclined to take a long-term view, it was easy to focus on the steadily improving baseline and declare no need to worry.

Unfortunately, while the CBO no longer paints a favorable picture in either scenario, it still offers an “out” for those who prefer to ignore our growing problem. The “out” is based on a long-standing forecast for a robust recovery and sharp increase in employment. With this rosy near-term outlook, the GIGANTOR UNICORN bends downward in the next four years.

What’s more, the Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA) conveniently redefined GDP in August, lifting all past, present and future GDP estimates and lowering the entire trajectory of the CBO’s debt-to-GDP projections.

Needless to say, pundits who choose to celebrate the purely hypothetical and engineered improvement in the near-term aren’t on the level. The overall picture is a nightmare scenario of government debt spiraling upward, as you might see in a banana republic. Replacing the CBO’s UNICORNs with more realistic assumptions (see here), the outlook is even worse.

Getting back to the debt ceiling, the stark difference between the 2012 and 2013 projections puts the policy debate in a whole new context. It should rightly alter Washington’s perspective on the urgency of our fiscal challenge. It’s time for all sides to acknowledge they’ve created a giant economic threat – to younger and future generations, especially – and work to bend the long-term debt trajectory back downwards.


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Sun, 10/06/2013 - 11:48 | 4027616 World of Debt
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Yup... It's a WORLD OF DEBT and nobody wants to do a damn thing about it. That's why i made this music video (below). It's my contribution, in a humorous way, to create awareness. WORLD OF DEBT:

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 12:14 | 4027652 Silver Bug
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It will be more of the same, it is QE to infinity.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 12:50 | 4027702 SafelyGraze
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due to budget pressures, my office is shutting down all interstate highways beginning immediately

and airports.

railroads too.


ps - just remembered .. shipping!

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 13:25 | 4027800 Boris Alatovkrap
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Recommend go long on manufacturer of concrete barrier.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 13:10 | 4027765 aint no fortuna...
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"...bend the long-term debt trajectory back downwards."


THat's right up there with "I promise not to come in your mouth!"

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 11:48 | 4027617 22winmag
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Boo... scared you!

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 11:46 | 4027618 ThePhysicist
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The Blue Team also believes the UNICORN craps candy.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 13:02 | 4027742 U4 eee aaa
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Just tell them it does. We will keep it to ourselves that that really isn't organic chocolate

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 13:05 | 4027749 moneybots
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"The Blue Team also believes the UNICORN craps candy."


so does the red team.  "Deficits don't matter."

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 13:23 | 4027797 ISEEIT
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The 'blue' team has the ball.


Sun, 10/06/2013 - 15:47 | 4028140 prains
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and the red team has yours...


Sun, 10/06/2013 - 13:46 | 4027863 McMolotov
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Blue Team, Red Team...

At the heart of it, there is only the Purple Team — a collection of old men and women who pretend to care about the American people when all they really care about is growing the government and their own power.

Their "disagreements" are a show meant to keep all of us distracted from the fact that just like Barney, they're all a bunch of retarded purple dinosaurs who need to be put down.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 11:48 | 4027621 EmmittFitzhume
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The next person that says brinksmanship is getting pistol whipped!

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 11:53 | 4027629 LetThemEatRand
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"Brinksmanship" -- Ben Bernanke.  

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 11:54 | 4027632 EmmittFitzhume
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Double pistol whip!

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 12:12 | 4027653 Kirk2NCC1701
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Whip it! Whip it good!

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 11:53 | 4027628 LetThemEatRand
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They don't care because the whole model is designed to enrich them while destroying the country.  They are buying real assets with their printed fiat so when it all goes to hell they will literally lord over the rest of us.  All according to plan.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 12:14 | 4027655 Ignatius
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Let me know when we get to the 'hang the bankers' part of the plan.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 11:52 | 4027631 Robert of Ottawa
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The debt ceiling debate will only change AFTER disaster, not before, because for a politician, it will always be in the future and can therefore be kickedd down the road.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 11:55 | 4027634 lolmao500
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Lulz. Debt to GDP is already at 100%+.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 13:26 | 4027802 Lednbrass
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You mention something that has pissed me off for years and I have never gotten a solid answer to.

Beginning in January 2000 when Dubya took over the Treasury reports began separating out Intragovernmental Debt as though this is somehow different debt we don't need to worry about- I mean hey, its only money that the government owes itself, right?  What is ignored across all media (and I haven't seen it spelled out here either, though I may have missed something) is that this is appreciably no different from any other debt. 

The bulk of this as far as I can tell is the famous Social Security Trust Fund, which in reality is a giant pile of non marketable securities.  In order for these to be redeemed by the Treasury and used by SS to send out checks, they MUST use money from the only two revenue streams available to the Treasury- tax collection and debt sale. 

As this redemption comes out of the same till as everything else, it is ridiculous to separate the two- merely a semantics game that unfortunately many who analyze these things (including the guest poster of this article) perpetuate by blithely pretending that it does not exist, and does not have an effect on debt when it most certainly must due to the mechanics of funding the whole system.

Anyone have hard data showing me to be incorrect? Not some unsourced or vaguely sourced drivel bandied about in the media, I mean real stuff that shows a different functioning of the mechanics of actually paying what the government supposedly owes itself? The core of it as I see it is the way in which incoming SS funds are immediately spent with anything else, and any surplus betwwen the amount received under SS tax and that expenditure goes into the theoretical Trust Fund as securitites to be later repaid from the standard revenue streams.

Any defenders of Uncle Sugar got something showing me wrong, and that this debt is in reality separately repaid from some other source?

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 14:12 | 4027918 TwoHoot
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" Anyone have hard data showing me to be incorrect?"

No.Never have, never will. You are correct.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 14:30 | 4027953 Winston Churchill
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There have been plenty of ZH articles about this.

Bruce Kasting was repeatedly writing posts on it..

The SS 'trust' fund is already in shortfall on a cash flow basis with the difference being made up

from general taxation.The number is relatively small,but about to go exponential.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 21:43 | 4029086 Lednbrass
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I've seen Bruce's articles on SS (though not in some time) but most concerned the absurdity of their projections and I can't recall a concrete breakdown by him or a Tyler on the mechanics. I admit I'm not here as much as I once was; once you hang here for a few years it's amazing what you can new see plainly for yourself. I started reading here alot just before they changed over the website and now just look in here and there for interesting analysis you just don't get elsewhere.

In any case, the insistence on factoring out that massive number even by those supposedly criticizing debt accumulation is irritating and stupid.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 17:11 | 4028327 GeezerGeek
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Bush was elected in November 2000, or was it 'selected in December 2000'? Whatever. How did he manage to take over the Treasury reporting in January 2000? Was Willie otherwise distracted, and didn't notice?

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 11:58 | 4027637 Haole
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ROOOOOAAAAAAAR... *phizzle* *pop* *pop*

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 12:14 | 4027639 jon dough
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Gadzooks, I love Gigantor

Any melómanos out there know the musicology of the theme song?

Sounds Cuban maybe, or Puerto Rican? Love the bongos and flute...

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 11:57 | 4027640 LetThemEatRand
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I think of the Fed as an invading army.  Or an evil would-be dictator in the Hitler model.  They intend to take over the entire world, but they are doing it over many generations.   I used to think Alex Jones was just selling his wares with the "New World Order" meme, but I've become convinced that he's right even if his analysis is a bit off.  Hard to know if we're near the end game, but it sure feels like we're getting close.  

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 12:21 | 4027666 JFKFC
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I prefer the David Icke brand of tinfoil.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 12:46 | 4027695 OwnSilverPlayMusic
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Jones is far too emotional for his own good.  It's tough to point out everyone else's lies when you're embellishing, exagerating or flat out lying yourself.  I give the man a whole world of credit for opening many people's eyes to the horrors of eugenics, democide and just the good old 'as fereral as federal express reserve' But the football coach meets Rush Limbaugh shtick is a bit much for me.  I'd rather listen to James Corbett, just the facts, and to the point. 

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 12:59 | 4027725 LetThemEatRand
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I agree -- it's hard to get past the theatrics.   But I think he's dead on in thinking that there is a concerted effort to enslave us all under a cartel of unelected multi-national corporations and bankers.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 13:03 | 4027747 OwnSilverPlayMusic
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FWIW I +1'd ya.  I know a ton of people who "woke up" or whatever you want to call it thanks specifically to his barking.  It can take a lot of approaches to reach people.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 13:46 | 4027853 adr
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When you see coordinated events across all media and commerce to prop up new IPOs like Twitter, the truth that a hand full of people control everything is readily apparent.

It should be impossible to roll out Twitter tags for everything within a week of the filing, but it happened. It's like you can't even produce a commercial or ad without supporting Twitter. But again when you start looking into the fact that something like four ad agencies create almost all advertisements, things are easy to control.

Same as when people laughed when I said that after Obama gets elected every single TV ad would feature blacks in power positions. It happened.

You can't get thousands of independent agencies to coordinate something like that, but people still believe there is competition in business. There is only collusion today.

I remember when CIA psy ops were a conspiracy theory. You really think the CIA only meant to control foreign media? Ha, they started with the domestic media. Nothing goes on the air without being vetted by the spooks first.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 15:50 | 4028147 stacking12321
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i doubt it - it's a far-fetched explanation, a vast conspiracy of shadowy figures and groups scheming to enslave humanity.

more likely, these groups and individuals are all acting in their own self-interests to accumulate power and wealth.

the only conspiracy i believe in is the federal reserve's scheme to extract the nation's wealth through inflation and banker bailouts.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 13:31 | 4027814 Lednbrass
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Regarding Hitler and his plan to take over the world- if that were the intent, can you explain why he did not build a Navy beyond a small coastal defense fleet and submarines which are of minimal value in establishing control of the oceans?

It's pretty clear that he wanted German hegemony over Europe and outright conquest of Eastern Europe and Russia, but given the German propensity for extremely detailed advance planning of even a trip to the bathroom how would a plan for world conquest not include a naval superiority fleet?

They didn't even have enough Navy to make it over the English Channel, much less establish control of the massive oceans. I don't think this was an accidental oversight.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 13:42 | 4027841 LetThemEatRand
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Presumably his plan was to take over Europe, Eastern Europe and Russia first, then the rest of the world later.    And had he developed nukes first, he probably would have succeeded without a world power navy.  But I am not an expert in WWII politics, just a casual reader so I don't pretend to have the inside scoop.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 13:53 | 4027878 adr
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Hitler would have been dead long before Germany could have tried to take over the world. There is a lot of evidence that Hitler was a puppet, a public face for the group pulling the strings in Germany. Like Obama today.

The assassination attempts on Hitler were the result of him going off the reservation. The German leadership wanted a European state to challenge the USA. We would have had a cold war, but with a German controlled Europe instead of a Soviet controlled.

That idea never really died, see the European Union now, essentially controlled by Germany.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 14:31 | 4027962 NaN
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Hitler a puppet? Must be the chemtrails and crop circles ;^)

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 12:07 | 4027647 shermacman
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The debt chart is a real statement about government info. Only the CBO is stating the our debt-to-GDP isn't at 100% yet. Pretty much everyone else has it at about 100% to 102% already. And climbing.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 13:39 | 4027828 ISEEIT
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The CBO huh?

So meaningful right? It is actually, but not in the way projected directly. Funny how we tend to adapt though isn't it?

All perfect in a proper sense and 'on a long enough timeline'.

Not to blow any unrequired (new word!!) smoke up Tyler's entirely full ass, but the 'guy' has had a well made point for quite sometime?

Corrupted Bureaucrats Obstruct.

Obstruct us from truth.

Truth is freedom.

Slavery is not.



Sun, 10/06/2013 - 12:12 | 4027654 Anonymous peon
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 "It’s time for all sides to acknowledge they’ve created a giant economic threat – to younger and future generations, especially – and work to bend the long-term debt trajectory back downwards."

The hole is already too deep, the country is bankrupt. He is talking about trying to prevent something that has already happened.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 15:18 | 4028066 grekko
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Yes, it is a little hard to defuse a bomb that has already gone off.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 12:17 | 4027661 lolmao500
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Muuuuuuuuuurica! Fuck yeah!

National Park Service officials cited the government shutdown as the reason for ordering an elderly Nevada couple out of their home, which sits on federal land.

"Unfortunately overnight stays are not permitted until a budget is passed and the park can reopen," an NPS spokesman explained to KTNV.

Ralph and Joyce Spencer, aged 80 and 77, respectively, own their home, but the government owns the land on which it sits.

"I had to be sure and get his walker and his scooter that he has to go in," Joyce Spencer told the local news outlet. "We're not hurt in any way except it might cost me if I have to go buy more pants."

Similarly, the NPS forced privately-operated inns on the Blue Ridge Parkway to close during the shut down.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 13:46 | 4027855 Oracle 911
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Hang the congress, senate and their masters.


Because what happened to the couple is not just a sheer stupidity, but a planned action. I think America is on the verge of implosion and disintegration:

-but the charade will continue for several years more, not because the skills of rulers, but because the EU and Japan will implode sooner.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 12:17 | 4027664 JR
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In the current D.C. standoff, the banks are playing their cards to oppose the people.

Always at the crest of a wave, Sarah Palin hits the men of finance. Breitbart News has the story:

“In an exclusive interview with Breitbart News, former Alaska governor Sarah Palin blasted the Republican establishment's contempt for and destructive behavior toward the Tea Party during the current budget showdown with the Obama administration.

“Palin told Breitbart News that these establishment financiers cannot relate to the average American worker and are throwing a "fit" because Wall Street knows they are in a whole new ballgame where their influence is diminishing.”

Says Palin:

“So I say call these guys out and expose the fact that they no longer control any conservative movement because they’re not the voice of the people. See, some of these Wall Street guys basically want to use the GOP for three things: They want low taxes for themselves; they want lots of cheap foreign labor (aka blanket amnesty); and they want to be safe (though most won’t send their own kids to fight our wars, they don’t want anyone blowing up buildings in Manhattan; so they’re all for sending our sons and daughters to whatever foreign hell hole beckons to make sure the bad guys stay off our soil).

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 13:44 | 4027849 ISEEIT
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It's no accident.

Opposition is always treated this way.


Sun, 10/06/2013 - 12:22 | 4027667 apberusdisvet
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Relax everyone; the unsustainable debt (entitlement) problems will be solved by mass genocide.  2.5 billion hollow core bullets together with the arms training and militarization of the sociopathic TSA says it all.


Sun, 10/06/2013 - 12:26 | 4027674 Harry Dong
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I don't believe your /sarc tag

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 12:22 | 4027668 shovelhead
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"urgency of our fiscal challenge"

Relax, take a smoke break. Read a magazine.

No sense in rushing to the Operating Room to save a crash victim if all you have is a pair of pliers and a roll of duct tape wielded by a guy who took the short bus to school.

Gotta keep things in perspective.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 12:23 | 4027671 involuntarilybirthed
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This debt ceiling will be different because it is a different number.  The End.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 12:26 | 4027675 buyingsterling
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How many bureaucrats have permanently lost their jobs? They don't work as hard as workers in the private sector (because they don't have to) and they're paid more. And hundreds of thousands of them are involved in pointless pursuits that don't benefit the general public. But we're talking about cutting social security and medicare, programs people have paid into for years. That fact tells you all you need to know: this government exists for the sake of this government. The rest of us can bugger off.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 12:25 | 4027676 Charles Wilson
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Coup d'etat.

That's the last piece of the puzzle and it's been a long time coming.

Default, repudiation of all debt, has been in the Plan all along.

All that is needed is a Sovereign Insult (China), a nifty little War (New Arabia comes to mind) and *POOF*!

"Intenal Threats have forced us into Unprecedented but Temporary Actions that now MUST be taken to..."

Coup d'etat..

Where's the Military and the CIA when you need 'em?



Been nice knowin'ya'.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 12:28 | 4027680 Essential Intel...
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The skillfully played drama of the partial “shut-down” of the USG is about to be complemented on 11 to 13 October, by the “Truckers drive for the Constitution”, which has already cobbled-up a million of heavy trucks, aka Riggs.

The background story is of the financial sector, lead by the big banks at Wall-Street, owning the USG and forcing it to mortgage any future of the US public in order to finance the mega Ponzi-scheme those banksters have cobbled-up. This financing started with the QE (Quantitative Easing) scheme and is about to be augmented by Obamacare – straight in to the pockets of the fat cats of the financial sector.

The deeper backgrounder is having disregarded the constitutional manner of money issuance, which is interest-free by the government, in favor of the unconstitutional interest-accruing issuance by the private members of the banking-ring named ‘the Federal reserve bank’, aka ‘the Fed’. This is debt slavery across the country.


Sun, 10/06/2013 - 12:37 | 4027685 blindman
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‘US financial crisis deeper than debt ceiling’

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 12:48 | 4027703 apberusdisvet
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I put on the sarc tag because, in the immortal words of Jack Nicholson:

"(most) cannot handle the truth" , especially that the USSA is now the Fourth Reich.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 12:51 | 4027710 manich
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Is the $$$$$ pipeline to the military/industrial/security complex considered an entitlement? Those billionaires sure feel like their entitled to keep getting it.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 13:08 | 4027758 U4 eee aaa
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That is actually one of the beauties of human nature. The way things go from the back of the mind to the front of the mind. That constantly dripping toilet or the way the car has difficulty starting slowly works from the subconscious to the conscious mind. At that point, you begin to realize you have a problem and you get off your butt and actually do something about it.

The American people keep getting this 'debate' about the debt ceiling presented to them. They keep ignoring it like the media tells them to and go back to sleep like they are told when it is over but as the warning light continues to go off every once in a while and with seeming increasing frequency, it will be brought front of mind to more and more people. Slowly, people are going to start waking up and realizing that this is a problem that needs to be fixed

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 14:21 | 4027935 joego1
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Mommy why is our world based on lies? I want Gigantor and the Unicorn to come save us from these evil people!

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 15:18 | 4028065 Gadfly
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·        In 1974, the Council on Foreign Relations published "The Hard Road to World Order", by Richard N. Gardner.

An excerpt:

"In short, the "house of world order" will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down. It will look like a great "booming, buzzing confusion," to use William James' famous description of reality, but an end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, will accomplish much more than the old-fashioned frontal assault. Of course, for political as well as administrative reasons, some of these specialized arrangements should be brought into an appropriate relationship with the central institutions of the U.N, system, but the main thing is that the essential functions be performed."  (Emphasis added).

NAFTA's Chapter 11 on investor-state disputes is just one example of how they are implementing this strategy.  The Hard Road to World Order

Another, more terrifying example, is being implemented, in stealth fashion, as we speak.  It’s called the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal.  From an article that just appeared in Truthdig:

“The extreme want of coverage of the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal in even the independent, alternative press is a testament to the near-complete domination of politics and the news media by transnational corporate interests. This was made possible—and we could say, was achieved—by the gradual, long-standing and ongoing economic starvation of journalists, editors and publishers who do not work under the aegis of those interests. Were it not for a relatively small group of committed professionals and other concerned people, we’d know even less.”

“If like many news readers you haven’t been informed, the Trans-Pacific Partnership is a hyper-secret multinational trade accord born in the darkened basement of neoliberalism. It has the full support of Democratic President Barack Obama, who, along with its other promoters, describe it as a way to “modernize” the international economy. That language should give you pause. Modernization was the same advertisement U.S. Treasury leaders Bob Rubin, Larry Summers and Timothy Geithner slapped on the 1999 act that repealed Glass-Steagall, legislation from the 1930s that placed a barrier between mom-and-pop and investment banking, and for almost a century prevented a repeat of the Great Depression. “Modernization” is code for deregulation and its full register of economic horrors, including depressed wages, high prices, lost jobs and unnecessary and increasing danger for workers and the environment, and deregulation is what the TPP is all about.”

“The TPP is often referred to by critics as ‘NAFTA on steroids’ and would establish a free trade zone that would stretch from Vietnam to Chile, encompass 800 million people—about a third of world trade and nearly 40 percent of the global economy. While the text of the treaty has been largely negotiated behind closed doors, more than 600 corporate advisers reportedly have access to the measure, including employees of Halliburton and Monsanto.”

“`[O]ne of the most important things to understand is it’s not really mainly about trade. I guess the way to think about it is as a corporate Trojan horse. The agreement has 29 chapters, and only five of them have to do with trade. The other 24 chapters either handcuff our domestic governments, limiting food safety, environmental standards, financial regulation, energy and climate policy, or establishing new powers for corporations.’”

“`For instance, there are the same investor privileges that promote job offshoring to lower-wage countries. There is a ban on Buy Local procurement, so that corporations have a right to do sourcing, basically taking our tax dollars, and instead of investing them in our local economy, sending them offshore. There are new rights to, for instance, have freedom to enter other countries and take natural resources, a right for mining, a right for oil, gas, without approval.’”

“`And then there’s a whole set of very worrisome issues relating to Internet freedom. Through sort of the backdoor of the copyright chapter of TPP is a whole chunk of SOPA, the Stop Online Privacy Act, that activism around the country successfully derailed a year ago. Think about all the things that would be really hard to get into effect as a corporation in public, a lot of them rejected here and in the other 11 countries, and that is what’s bundled in to the TPP. And every country would be required to change its laws domestically to meet these rules. The binding provision is, each country shall ensure the conformity of domestic laws, regulations and procedures.’” (Emphasis added.)

“`Now, the only reason I know that level of detail is because a few texts have leaked, and I have been following the negotiations and grilling negotiators from other countries to try and find between the lines what the hell is going on; otherwise, totally secret.’”

“In other words, the deal would create a legal means for businesses to attack and subvert government. The new laws would be enforceable by what Wallach describes as “the very controversial investor-state system, which empowers individual corporations to directly sue governments—not in our courts, but in extrajudicial tribunals where three corporate attorneys act as ‘judges,’ and these guys rotate between being the judge and being the guys suing the government for the corporation.” The penalty for breaking the laws (in potentially many instances, remember, for the sake of protecting the public) amounts to another opportunity for companies to make money. “They’re empowered to give unlimited cash damages from us, the taxpayers, to these corporations for any government action—a regulatory issue, environment, health, safety—that undermines the investor’s expected future profits.”

“Remarkably for the degree of corporate intrusion into politics, even members of Congress have been kept in the dark about the details of the deal. (That tells us the agreement is not being written by legislators, but dark hands moving in the world of business.) Lawmakers weren’t allowed to see a draft of the accord until this June. Congress has the power to accept or reject the deal, but if the White House has its way, representatives will get only a short amount of time to figure out what’s in it; they won’t be able to modify the bill in any way, and will pass or deny it with a simple up-or-down vote. The process, known as “Fast Track,” is a collective surrender by U.S. lawmakers of their exclusive authority over the process of shaping legislation. Wallach says lawmakers got access to a single chapter of the deal last year only after 150 of them screamed loud enough, and even then their ability to study the text was severely limited. “`Their staff is thrown out of the room. They can’t take detailed notes. They’re not supposed to talk about what they saw. And they can, without staff to help them figure out what the technical language is, look at a chapter.’”

 In 1917, Illuminati Jewish banker Louis Marshall said, “Zionism is but an incident of a far reaching plan. It is merely a convenient peg on which to hang a powerful weapon.”  Zionism is like the Queen in a chess game. It is an essential weapon, but the ultimate goal is a satanic monopoly over human life—political, economic and spiritual.

“To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.”  — Revelations 2:7


Sun, 10/06/2013 - 15:30 | 4028099 grekko
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I can hear that bitch Pelosi now, "We have to pass it to find out what's in it."  What does she think this country is, a box of Cracker Jacks? (No offense intended to the makers of Cracker Jacks.)

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 15:35 | 4028111 I Write Code
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You had me up to the illuminati bit.  Let's try to focus on this century and millenium, I'm sure we have our own paranoid conspiracies to worry about, not to mention realities.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 16:48 | 4028275 Gadfly
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"[The 1929 Crash] was not accidental. It was a carefully contrived occurrence ... The international bankers sought to bring about a condition of despair here so that they might emerge as rulers of us all." -- Republican Congressman, Louis T. McFadden, Chairman of the House Banking & Currency Committee, 1920-1931, a staunch critic of the Federal Reserve. –

"We will never overcome our problems until we address the underlying cause: society is controlled by the Illuminati, a cabalist cult empowered by the central bankers. Put simply, Satanists don't care if the people suffer. On the contrary..."

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 15:36 | 4028119 Gadfly
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In response to LetThemEatRand's comment below.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 15:24 | 4028080 grekko
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Calymores are the answer, go long claymores.  They look so pretty in the trees.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 18:02 | 4028471 cape_royds
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Hitler did not want to "take over the world." He did want Germany to become and forever remain a major world power, with an unshakeable hegemony over the western half of Eurasia.

That geopolitical mission was something he shared with his Wilhelmine predecessors.

Hitler also wanted to forever liberate Germany from what he called, "Jewish Capitalist Bolshevism." In his thinking, the major secular cosmopolitan political economic doctrines of Modern Europe, i.e. capitalism and communism, were merely two sides of the same coin. Hitler also believed that Jews were the people who were chiefly responsible for the emergence of such secular anti-national cosmopolitan ideas in European culture, so therefore he wanted to expel or kill the Jews.

In opposition to "Jewish Capitalist Bolshevism," Hitler wanted to establish Germany as a technically modern state, but with its political economy based firmly on national and racial principles. Hitler wanted to see a strong modern nationalist Germany leading a community of similarly constituted Western European nations.

But Hitler did not want to "take over the world." Hitler did not want colonies in Asia or Africa. Rather, he wanted Germany to obtain its future supply of land and raw materials from the subjugation of Russia.

Hitler hoped to obtain and maintain a favourable compromise peace and long-term modus vivendi with the British Empire. As far as Hitler was concerned, Britain could rule India and Africa forever, while the Japanese exploited China, and the USA lorded over the Western Hemisphere.

Note that within the German ruling classes, and indeed within the Nazi Party, there were others whose geopolitical and ideological aims differed from Hitler's. There were elements who wanted to take a more "navalist" and maritime-imperial approach. There were those who were much more strident about Nordic racialism than Hitler ever was. There were those who wanted to make Nazism into an esoteric state religion. There were those who wanted to build rockets and colonize the Moon. There were those who wanted a modern Germany to restore a pre-Napoleonic feudal order in Europe. Modern German nationalism of the early 20th century was a pretty big tent.

Hitler was a skilful politician who was able to promise many things to many people, listening and nodding, while obtaining their support for his own choices, step by step. One could say that Hitler was the moderate, 'serious,' realistic, consensus-building Nazi.

Hitler presided over a consensus among German leaders. That consensus formed around a primary mission: to make Germany the dominant military power on the European continent, immune from political or economic interference by othe powers. The consensus view brought together Germans of most political stripes, running the gamut from aristocratic Prussian career officers to rationalist bourgeois bankers to disgruntled SA Jew-baiters.

WRT to naval plans, Germany did conceive of a major surface navy programme, but there was an irreconcialable conflict between the long lead times needed for capital ship construction, and the more immediate need for land and air forces with which to shatter French and Russian opposition to German hegemony. Once the short-term threat of large enemy armies on the continent was overcome, Germany could establish a surface fleet with which to defend its European maritime interests. Even then, the purpose of a German surface battle fleet would still have been similar to Tirpitz' old idea of a "risk fleet"--something with which to deter the Anglo powers. Hitler's preferred naval solution would have been to delegate naval affairs to the already-existing French and Italian fleets, providing that French leadership could be won over. That's why Hitler was careful in 1940 to make no claim upon the French fleet or overseas empire.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 18:20 | 4028518 HardlyZero
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Since seeing the 3x and 4x amounts being paid for the ACA monthly 'charges' or 'insurance' I understand why they built-in all the tax credits permanently !!!!  

It was so they could take the 'saved' tax money now and pay it over to the healthcare ACA.   So the tax money 'saved' by keeping the tax breaks earlier this year is now to be used to pay for ACA.

Now the last year makes all the sense in the world.

The Quid Pro Quo is now apprarent and solved.


Sun, 10/06/2013 - 20:52 | 4028951 sbenard
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Barack Insane Obama, the Dictator of Debt!

Folks, he's going to sink the ship. That's his plan! Just ask his campaign adviser, Peter Dreier, who explained the plan in detail at the Cooper's Union Socialist Scholars Conference that Obama attended.

Sun, 10/06/2013 - 21:35 | 4029067 ToNYC
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Capital coup d'etat, now eat that.

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