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No Planes, No Trains, And No Automobiles As Record Smog Shuts Beijing

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China started re-opening roads and airports in Beijing and surrounding areas that have been shut by record high levels of smog. An estimated 430 million people were expected to travel during the holiday that ends today and with the air quality index "improving" from its highest possible level to below 200 (the line between heavy and medium pollution), some will be able to return home. The clips below are stunning (and no that is not 'fog'); summed up best by one Shanghai-based accountant that Bloomberg reports noted, "I won’t go to heavily polluted places like China’s north region as it’s either hazardous to your health or causes trouble when traveling."

 

Beijing Air Poluution Hits Highest

 

China smog shrouds Beijing and Northern China

 

Via Bloomberg,

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“Beijing will see light rain tonight, which will make it easier for air pollutants to dissipate,” Beijing Meteorological Bureau said today in its official microblog. The bureau lifted a yellow alert on smog at 8:50 a.m., predicting that visibility will improve.

 

The closures yesterday of six expressways and disruption at Beijing Capital International Airport underscore the severity of pollution that has become the top cause of social unrest in China.

 

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Police closed six expressways linking the capital city to Shanghai, Tianjin and Harbin yesterday, and 47 flights at Beijing Capital International Airport were affected.

 

Some parts of the expressways linking Beijing to Shanghai and Tianjin were still closed as of 9:40 a.m

 

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The State Council, China’s cabinet, said last month it will cut coal consumption, close steel plants and control the number of cars on its roads to gradually eliminate heavily polluted days in as soon as a decade.

 

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China will build a nationwide network within three to five years to monitor the impact of air pollution on health, the official Xinhua News Agency reported on Oct. 5, citing the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention.

 

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Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:10 | 4032313 involuntarilybirthed
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The plants seem to like it.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:17 | 4032337 SilverIsKing
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When I'm in Beijing, I order the Sweet and Sooty Chicken and get a glass of fine Beaujolais Windex to wash it down.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:18 | 4032347 knukles
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See.  This is why America needs a carbon tax. 

 

snarc

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:22 | 4032364 NoDebt
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Looks like LA in the 70s.

Yet, somehow, it's all up to the US to stauch the slow (and better yet, imaginary) bleed of global warming..... er, climate change, or whatever they're calling it this week.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:26 | 4032372 ACP
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Good point. Why isn't Tsar Obamba bombing China bombastically in the name of the environment?

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:51 | 4032452 Big Corked Boots
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We must destroy the planet in order to save it.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 20:00 | 4032483 knukles
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I dunno what the big deal is...
Looks no different than Fresno on a hot midsummer's day with all the fucking pollution coming from San Francisco... and then the SF holierthanthoumotherfuckers go to Fresno and tell the Fresnoians they need to clean up their air in Fresno.

Amazing that a whole buncha SF'ers don't wind up in pink slime ground beef from Harris Farms...

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 20:20 | 4032534 Esso
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Egads! Can you get AIDS from a hamburger pattie?

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 20:26 | 4032554 sushi
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It depends on which orifice is used.

 

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 20:49 | 4032620 donsluck
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Do some research, Fresno's smog is mostly agricultural. San Francisco accounts for a small percentage.

http://fresnometmin.org/airquality.php

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 01:04 | 4033089 NidStyles
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So we should listen to people that can't the basic chemistry correct?

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 21:24 | 4032691 ACP
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SF is more of a source of social pollution.

The inspiration for such newly passed laws that allow criminal aliens to get driver's licenses, practice law and for high school perverts to walk into female locker rooms to ogle and jerk off after saying they "identify with the female gender".

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 00:06 | 4033022 wee-weed up
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"SF is more of a source of social pollution."

Yep, them turds on the sidewalk are NOT dogshit!

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 02:37 | 4033150 cynicalskeptic
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LA has gotten better when compared to the 60's but it seems like there's ALWAYS a nice brown layer in the sky driving up out of California's Central Valley - the ever present smog filling the valley.... visually tartling wwhen you see it for the first time.

However this summer, the forest fires led to astoundingly bad air quality - first with the Bishop fire and then with the Yosemite Rim fire.  Reno, Tahoe and halfway to Sacremento weree worst hit with the latter. You could drive 395 uo the eastern Sierras and not even know there were mountains on either side of you.  Couldn't see the tops of the casinos in reno from the road - noce post Apocalyptic orange and brown sky - your lungs hurt from the air - for weeks.   Bad fires down by LA and up by the Oregon line - not to mention in Arizona and Idaho.   One good wildfire does wonders for air quality - and often manages to take out a bunch of homes built by millionaires to enjoy pristine 'wilderness'.   Going to get worse with the West getting drier.

And whatever you have to say about NYC, I've never seen the air anywhere's near as bad as it can be out in Ca.   The climate and demogrsphic fundamentals aren't good to start - favoring the creation of pollution- and the geography tends to trap the pollution 

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 20:01 | 4032485 CheapBastard
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Historic names in China are fun: Golden Swan, Peking Duck, Soaring Eagle.

The new names are quite different: Choking frog, smothered duck, boated pig.

The city neighborhoods are also new like Beijing's "Foggy Bottom" which seems a more accurate name then the American coutnerpart in DC.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 20:46 | 4032609 Deo vindice
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Is it called "boated pig" because they float?

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 22:45 | 4032875 mofreedom
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cause the bomb's been stuck far beyond his rectum lo these many years.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 23:08 | 4032930 Notarocketscientist
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Global warming will be stopped in its tracks as the cost of energy continues to climb.

Every $10 increase in a barrel of oil knocks 0.5% off GDP in developed countries.

Higher oil = economic collapse = permanent economic collapse.

Just wait a little longer - clear skies are on the way

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:22 | 4032360 involuntarilybirthed
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Beaujolais Windex?  That must be a French/Greek blend?

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:29 | 4032383 Stoploss
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What's not to like about breathing air you can see?

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 21:44 | 4032749 StychoKiller
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That has got to be the best comment at Chinese expense, ever!

"Make me laugh!"

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:42 | 4032430 JuliaS
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The Onion covered this ages ago:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ4K0hHin9s

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:48 | 4032443 TBT or not TBT
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It's got electrolytes.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:49 | 4032449 akak
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It's got what prants clave!

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 20:49 | 4032616 williambanzai7
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BEIJING PM 2.5-755

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 21:19 | 4032687 akak
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Let 1000 Flowers Wilt!

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 22:37 | 4032854 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Great gasp forward!

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 22:41 | 4032867 Jugdish
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Ha !! That's the mutha fuckin bernank with some just for men and S & M suit on.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 09:18 | 4033448 YHC-FTSE
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@WB7

Nice. Haven't commented for awhile, so a compliment for your efforts is a good start I reckon. Most of the headlines these days could be "presented without comments" as we say around here simply because of their WTF contents that really defy the notion that there are bottom limits to human stupidity and infantile tantrums enacted by the so called "adults" in government. 

Anyway it's odd how we're led to be "shocked" by the mundane repeats of history and growing pains of developing countries.  The 1952 "Pea Souper" London fog that lasted several days killed an estimated 12,000 people - a combination of weather and pollution, so this is nothing. I suspect they'll be sorting themselves out sharpish after a few more pollution shocks just like the rest of us, unless they want an entire generation of brain damaged morons running things in the future (Like the rest of us).

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:09 | 4032316 bjfish
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Damn, I'm first & don't know what to say.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:13 | 4032326 McMolotov
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Maybe oops?

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:16 | 4032335 Teaser
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As usual, the chinese are smarter than us.  They skipped implementing Obamacare.  Instead, the smog will guarantee no one makes it past age 70!  Brilliant!

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:30 | 4032380 akak
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Looks like somebody's supposed non-resource-consuming citizenism is blobbing-up again.

Makes you wonder how much of this smog* is actually airborne dust originating from human-generated roadside .... stuff.

 

*It is, of course, illegal to call it smog in China though --- it is officially "atmospheric manifestation of glorious Chinese economic double lucky advancement vigorously".

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 22:57 | 4032907 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Ah, ah, Chinese Citizenism Communautist Party tells very sighted of shortness. Gives no reflection on unintended consequences much the dangdang.

No cars on roads gives roadsides into center lane expansionings. Give squatting Chinese citizenism citizens additional kilometers of unspoiled road surface plentifully and, well, citizenish impulsions are incitated fantaisically.

Skidmarks abound undubiously, even the moreso when automobilings resume on road surfaces slickened extremistically.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:29 | 4032382 pods
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Well there goes any clear videos of more epic fail boat launches.

pods

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:13 | 4032324 nmewn
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Chinese pedestrian It Tu Tic comments: "Can't twell rickshaw from AnAnonymous stealing lumber for his road side shit shack!"

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:14 | 4032331 McMolotov
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"Prease use fog rights and drive safery."

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 21:29 | 4032719 Milestones
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While in Beijing several years ago I had occasion to visit a few homes and small businesses. What these people were burning was compressed coal--dust in most part. Needless to say how that stuff burns plus who knows how much of that dust goes airborne thru the flue.

I can understand the pollution problem now, which is far greater than while I was there--which was bad.         Milestones

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 22:51 | 4032893 mofreedom
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Why when i speak chinese to my son that every, and i mean every, consanent is an R.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 07:36 | 4033256 kralizec
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Sum Ting Wong...Ho Li Fuk...Bing Bang Ow!

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:19 | 4032350 akak
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Just have to bear with it.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 07:20 | 4033242 Raging Debate
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Haha Mnewn mhake me raugh aso

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:16 | 4032325 The Alarmist
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It's the fault of those damned Tea Bagger radicals ... they want to starve kill your children, and they're doing it by making the Chinese pollute by making them worry too much about the value of the debt they are holding.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:53 | 4032464 kaiserhoff
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I brame Booosh.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 07:39 | 4033258 kralizec
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U no likey boosh?  U likey boy?

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 01:07 | 4033095 NidStyles
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THOSE ANARCHRISTS!!

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:16 | 4032329 NoWayJose
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The thoroughly modern answer to a dangerous air pollution reading of 200 is to change the scale to make 200 normal and 300 dangerous.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:34 | 4032398 Al Huxley
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That's my favorite thing about the modern fascist state - it's much easier to solve problems than it used to be.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:53 | 4032454 knukles
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Now that is seriously warped funny truth.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 20:28 | 4032562 nmewn
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It is isn't it...the man should be at a 100 ups by now, we are sooo fucked knukles.

Statistics & numbers don't lie, only people waving around stats & numbers lie.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:15 | 4032330 Dagny Taggart
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That's terrible. Makes my chest hurt just to imagine breathing in those conditions.

So, If Beijing and DC are shut down for their respective failures... who does that leave, Moscow?

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:16 | 4032336 The Alarmist
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A lot of smoking hot babes, at least until they hit 32 and the babooshka bomb goes off.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:40 | 4032415 nmewn
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(Frantically Googling babooshka)

Yes, agreed!...lol.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:52 | 4032456 knukles
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pssssst... try pre-babooshka

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 20:01 | 4032487 nmewn
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Stop it!...you're just tryin to start trouble ;-)

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:55 | 4032467 akak
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As they have long said in Eastern Europe: "From princess to plowhorse".

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:55 | 4032472 kaiserhoff
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If we're talking Rooskie Chics,

you might also want to Google hard-as-nails.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:57 | 4032476 Totentänzerlied
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Bio-accumulation of air/water pollutants takes a little while.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:21 | 4032333 exartizo
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LIGHT INTRODUCTIONS

Wen Jiabao: Congratulations on your handling of Obama last month. Masterfully played Mr. Putin. He never saw you coming.

Putin: Yes, well he is not only a novice chess player but a poor student of history. His huge ego also prevents him from surrounding himself with anything but useless dolts.

Wen Jiabao: Agreed. The current United States government is the most irresponsible group of reprobates their nation has ever seen.

Putin: Yes. I’m sure you’ve considered gradually divesting your debt holdings at least until their government regime changes.

Wen Jiabao: Yes we have seriously considered it. They are in a debilitating debt debacle and corruption of their normal business cycles by their Federal Reserve from which they have no escape. They have printed themselves into oblivion by spending their future children’s dollars for generations to come and exploiting their reserve currency status to the most outrageous outer bounds of reason and logic. But it is all to no avail for them.

Putin: Their current debt and shutdown theatrics will resolve quite spontaneously, I imagine. But make no mistake, the United States will implode from within as Rome before it. We need do nothing but wait.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:25 | 4032373 NoDebt
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You forgot to add "So..... wadda ya say to some joint naval drills, old communist brother of mine?"

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:35 | 4032404 exartizo
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lol

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:47 | 4032440 nmewn
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I'm gonna have to admit, I'm way out of my element here, first it was babooshka, now we're smokin joints & drilling into old communist womens navels for some reason.

This is getting strange ;-)

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 20:21 | 4032539 NoDebt
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I freaking KNEW somebody was going to go there.  I thought about how to phrase that sentence for a solid 60 seconds and couldn't figure out a way to avoid that while still keep the word count down.

Alternative explanation:  I meant to do that.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 20:32 | 4032573 nmewn
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You can always count on your ZH friends to drill down into the belly button lint of any situation ;-)

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 21:03 | 4032660 exartizo
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lol

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:15 | 4032334 Let them eat iPads
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Bullish for oxygen tanks.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:16 | 4032339 NoWayJose
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Bring those pollution creating jobs back to Amerika!

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:20 | 4032341 akak
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I guess it's a good thing (according to our dear ZH member AnAnonymous) that only US 'american' citizens consume resources and pollute the environment --- otherwise, just imagine how bad this smog might REALLY have gotten! 

Make me laugh!

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:58 | 4032481 nmewn
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Hah!

An unmattering thing. Chinese citizen citizenism gave gunpowder to the worlds imperial superpowers, to launch its death projectiles at tomahawk weilding native savages, for conquest.

The least they can do is suck it up...and breathe a little smoke ;-)

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 20:08 | 4032511 akak
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Ah, ah, but Chinese Citizenism eternal nature of inability to self-indict leading to obvious accusationizings of European US 'american' pre-'american' citizens blobbing-up gunpowder via Marco Polo monolizing of the glorious Middle Kingdom inventioning means in order for future European 'american' colonists to crustify and abscond with land of native 'Americans' hundreds of years in the future.

When it comes to duplicitous European US 'american' pre-USA 'american' citizenism citizens, the longterm plan is the mattering thing.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 20:56 | 4032631 nmewn
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ROTFL!!!...you know I can't compete with that Sensei, I don't know how you do it...lol.

It is art & war & peace & wisdom & power & ridicule, all wrapped up into one.

(Bowing, deeply)

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 21:26 | 4032709 akak
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Welcome to the ananonymystical world of Chinese Citizenism, it's an intellectual trainwreck on an endless Mobius-strip of insanitation and scapesgoatery, you'll see.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 21:51 | 4032767 StychoKiller
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These guyz ain't got nuthin' on you! :>D

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 23:28 | 4032970 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Welcome to the ananonymystical world of Chinese Citizenism, it's an intellectual trainwreck on an endless Mobius-strip of insanitation and scapesgoatery, you'll see.

Chinese citizenism citizens are revolutionaries at heart, one can expect a lot of circularity.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 23:24 | 4032967 TheFourthStooge-ing
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That is good Chinese citizenism speech. The rhetorics, the ideas, sounds like the chairman Mao See Dung.

Chinese citizenism wants to blob up. Chinese Citizenism Communautist Party wants to be the head of the blob. It is typical Chinese citizenism vernacular.

There was shit before the rise of Chinese citizenism, and there is much more shit now thanks to Chinese citizenism. Chinese citizenism citizens have this gift: now matter how bad the situation is, they can worsen it.

The quest for symetry, how it collapses. Ah, ah, funny.

Best. The complete failure. Makes my day. Utter Chinese citizenism. When they perceive failures, failures have to come from something else than Chinese citizenism, something exterior, a corruption of their system.

Ah, the safe harbor of scapesgoating.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:21 | 4032348 Thunderwall
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Sounds about right. You should see what it does to aircraft engines. Hint: Nothing good.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:21 | 4032349 Thunderwall
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Sounds about right. You should see what it does to aircraft engines. Hint: Nothing good.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:20 | 4032352 NOTaREALmerican
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Good thing those Godless Capitalist Commies don't allow any environment wackos to ruin their economy.  

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:20 | 4032354 QQQBall
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MDB appears to be too busy today to spin this so I will say it.... BOOLISH! 

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:22 | 4032357 ebworthen
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*cough*

Elon Musk can fix it, send him over, STAT!

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:55 | 4032465 knukles
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Fuck him and his government tax payer subsidy he quietly rode in on.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:22 | 4032361 Let them eat iPads
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If this is China's way of practicing population control then I'm all for it.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:25 | 4032368 Yen Cross
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   Prease use fry beams on trnpike.

   Trank U

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:28 | 4032377 smartstrike
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Nothing good will ever come out of China.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:58 | 4032479 kaiserhoff
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I kinda like fire works.

Foot binding, not so much.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 20:34 | 4032575 Yenbot
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You don't do it to yourself, silly Gaijin :)

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 21:47 | 4032759 Otrader
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half our homes are filled with chinese crap...Ipad, BluRay, PC, Laptop ,etc etc etc.

 

And, in the garage, half our cars are filled with chinese crap...

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:28 | 4032378 NOTaREALmerican
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Notice all the big cars there.   Merican sized cars, not the liberal pansy commie green euro-trash girly cars.  

Real manly cars.  

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:35 | 4032397 smartstrike
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They also like to chain-smoke Camels and Pal-Malls. Even Chinese girls like to bet BIG in a Casino, American men shake in their boots when they bet $5.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:58 | 4032480 Totentänzerlied
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Debt, like tobacco, feels good ... for a while.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:29 | 4032381 Trimmed Hedge
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Serves them right. I hope they die from porrution...

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:29 | 4032385 Teddy Tenpole
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they can die in their own squalor

 

filthy people with no regard for human life

 

 

 

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:33 | 4032396 akak
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Yes, they are so much worse than, say, the neocons who guide the USA's warmongering foreign policy, who are clean people with no regard for human life.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:42 | 4032425 knukles
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Oh no, akak...
They care very much about human life.  They think there's way the fuck too much of it and some good wars, famine, disease, pestilence, genocide and just plain good hatchet murders and stabbing should be promoted, improved upon and increased manifold.
God bless 'em little fuckers...
May they rot in hell yet alive....

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:50 | 4032451 Teddy Tenpole
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ahem, Knuckles.  Neocons don't believe in heaven or hell (just so you know they therefore won't rot there).  I really don't want this getting out but religion is just a myth used to control the masses.

 

Sorry to be the one to tell you, I'm sure Mommy and Daddy meant well.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 20:06 | 4032507 Totentänzerlied
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Yeah much better to have 3 billion chronically malnourished/diseased/starving peasants with no prospects of improving their lives.

No, I don't think there is truly a shortage of resources per se to provide a decent life for 7 billion (many of whom would have to be farmers), but you absolutely can't get there on fossil fuels controlled by monopoly/cartel corporations using factory farming, chemical fertilizers, etc. wreaking havoc on the biosphere and wasting enormous amounts of resources.

How do you propose we get there?

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 21:00 | 4032647 donsluck
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Loose some weight, grab a hoe.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 22:02 | 4032791 nmewn
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This is gonna mean fencing & rotating my livestock into my garden so they can shit in it, then I have to use my labor and my tools, to rake animal shit into my soil and then pay my taxes for the luxury of them allowing me to do it, isn't it?

Sounds like a lot of work for me. Why can't I just shoot people or just take their stuff whenever I want to, like they do?

Its an ideological/philosophical point...not a "legal" one ;-)

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 21:52 | 4032766 John_Coltrane
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How about more mass to energy conversion?  Chemical bond energy is so limited.  How soon we forget E=m*c^2 and just how big c really is!

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 07:57 | 4033285 Raging Debate
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Toten: How you get there - Focus on man's inherit genetic code to be able to transform from energy to matter at will rather than transition to that state through the suffering of old age and death. That is enough religion as I need, for all races of man must suffer to go through this and we do seem to be within a century or two of reaching that genetically coded goal.

Comparing one race or nation's failings over another seems to trigger our deeper coding, our understanding we are one with that one main purpose in mind or 'religious' thoughts. As for me, the more I study physics and seemingly limitless deviation of logical explanation using a +1 or -1 numbers on a line, the more I believe one unified organism that just IS (and evolution a universal process) spoke these dimensions or deviations into existence and logic is mere interpretation.

It is our human nature to pervert the meaning of that wonderful genetic purpose and writings and state it must be gods will to conquer in the name of survival of the fittest. Whether you put forward effort on evolutionary progress or oppose it, you still play whether you like it or not.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:36 | 4032400 NOTaREALmerican
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Christ, is there anybody on the planet that somebody doesn't hate?

Let see what the US looks like when it's infested with 1.5 billion humans and how Merican treat each other (not that we've exactly got a good reputation now).

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:42 | 4032414 akak
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Well, everyone loves Raymond.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:42 | 4032429 knukles
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LOL

sick fuck

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:43 | 4032431 Teddy Tenpole
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+100

 

and i love lucy

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:57 | 4032475 knukles
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Booyah!
A double header!

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 22:40 | 4032869 whoopsing
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Love, American style

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:32 | 4032386 olto
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This seems twice as smoggy as LA was in 1959. I have never seen anything to match it.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:41 | 4032419 smartstrike
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Asia, a nice place to get radiation sickness in Japan; catch emphysema in China,  AIDS in Thailand, or get 50 lashes for spitting on a sidewalk in Singapore.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:45 | 4032438 knukles
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Humph..
Sumptin' fo ebrahbodee!

PS  One of my acquaintances has a bunch of "Thailand" themed t-shirts that he got on a vacation there a while ago.  One's supposed to be of an tiger or something and we kid him about it being a cute little boy in makeup....
He's very insecure in his manhood.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:32 | 4032388 Teddy Tenpole
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tiny penises too

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:43 | 4032424 smartstrike
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why you care?

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:46 | 4032442 knukles
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Because you can't leave them on the Hibachi long or the foreskin dries out and gets tough

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 20:04 | 4032497 Jendrzejczyk
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sick fuck

 

 

 

 

+100

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 20:14 | 4032519 monad
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Oh, leftovers. If you only harvest the adults its better for sustainability and you won't have this problem. Broght to you by Carl's Jr.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 05:16 | 4033199 Ar-Pharazôn
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lol thumbed you up just for Carl's Jr.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:52 | 4032457 akak
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tiny penises too

Consumptionization of the bear gall bladder, tiger penis, cobra bile, ground dragon bones or Kitten McNuggets can make big(ger) the tiny Chinaman peepee.  Just ask AnAnonymous.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 20:08 | 4032510 Jendrzejczyk
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Wolfnipple Chips (TM ACKACK)  growingest the largerest of organs.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 20:41 | 4032595 centerline
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Oh dear god.  That was a classic rant back then.  I almost forgot.  How could I forget?  Wolfnipple chips.  (yum yum, can't eat just one!).

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 21:37 | 4032735 Miffed Microbio...
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Oh come on Akak, if you had a tiny penis wouldn't you be chomping down the fore mentioned? Desparate organs call for desparate measures. Just think of it this way. How many Chinese men do you see with a voluptuous European woman on their arm?

Miffed;-)

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 21:46 | 4032757 akak
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Oh come on Akak, if you had a tiny penis ....

That's a big 'if".  A VERY big "if".  A ten inch long "if".

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:31 | 4032389 Jugdish
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It's no different then bein inside ur naybors traylor watchin Mondaye niagte futball an bein proud an standin up fer merikuh.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:46 | 4032408 Yen Cross
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     Mixes nicely with that easterly "Fukushima Flow"...

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:42 | 4032420 Teddy Tenpole
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this site has really gone to the dogs, down arrows for tiny penises?  come on guys... was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?  Hell no!!!

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:50 | 4032446 knukles
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Teddy, you've just got to realize that there are some very sensitive people here.  Fragile and sensitive.
With very small penises....

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:55 | 4032471 Teddy Tenpole
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Awe, who am I kidding.  I wish I had a bigger one too.  Hey, Knuckles -- I'm feeling empathy toward Sino-american people here. 

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 20:11 | 4032499 Burticus
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When I lived in Hawaii, they had condoms labeled "oriental size."  When somebody told me about them, I thought they were joking, until I saw them with my own (round) eyes.

Since there were virtually no popolos there, except for a few in the military, the haoles had the reputation for swingin' the biggest man meat.  This, combined with the choking smog, should help even the oldest, ugliest, meanest, poorest ZHers mail-order one of the hot young Chinese girls in the pop-up ads.  Heck, they won't even see you through the smog until it's too late.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 20:41 | 4032592 Yenbot
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You order one of those Burt and you'll find out fast why there's a billion of 'em. Booyah! Yeehaw! Kick ass rides!! Ahem...

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 20:45 | 4032605 kaiserhoff
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Not sure this is true, knuks,

but I've been told the only pick-up line you need in Italy is...,

"I'm hung like a hoover."

( a vacuum cleaner with a very long hose)

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:43 | 4032421 Mototard at Large
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Banks, Terrorism and other Existential Threats: The Real Invisible Hand

A request for assistance from ZH readers (known for being enthusiastic commenters) :

We have prepared a series of three papers and a podcast on the dangers of the use of fiat/digital currency combined with the near total dependency of most of our economies on the international payments and settlements system.  This leaves us vulnerable to a systemic collapse, an insider threat and/or a foreign attack (read China, Iran, Hezbollah).  In short, banks and anyone who deals with a bank is on the frontline of a new form of warfare.

These research papers and the podcast mark the first time that anyone has been drawn attention to the line between fiat vulnerability and the payments and settlement system. We will be writing a fourth paper on potential solutions and options for moving ahead. Any comments or ideas are welcome here or at cohost@brokenmirrors.ca

CONFLICT OF INTEREST STATEMENT

** *The Broken Mirrors website is not set up to be a for-profit website or business (yet).   However, we do intend to make the transition to making money sometime in early 2014 as we develop the work on the site and an associated online training program. In other words, no direct financial gain from this posting.

 

Banks, Terrorism and other Existential Threats: The Real Invisible Hand

We can begin the discussion with a simple proposition: what bankers are allowing to happen (consciously or not) at Central Banks and Financial Institutions is far more fearsome than what terrorists have planned in the past. A failure of their jointly operated payments and settlements system would do more systemic damage to the advanced economies than any terrorist attack has done to date. The payments and settlements system is virtually invisible to the public, intelligence and security agencies and most politicians. Yet this ‘invisible’ system has implicated itself into the everyday lives of the populations of almost all of the developed economies.

The other invisible factor lurking in the background is the fiat currency system used by almost all developed nations. Those bank notes in your pocket or wallet are called ‘fiat currency’ as there is little to nothing that supports them other than pure faith – which is by definition invisible.  When individuals lose faith in their government or their financial system, the currency can become nearly worthless in a rapid manner: history is littered with failed fiat currencies.

The intelligence community as a whole has not seriously examined the potential for the application of the use of force (cyber or otherwise) within this economic domain. Nor is it clear that most Western governments have any ability to respond to such an attack (or internal failure) should such an event occur. As Jason Healey, the former White House Director of Cyber Infrastructure Protection noted in a recent address, if the United States is engaged in a cyberwar, Americans would be far better served by contacting Microsoft or AT&T rather than the Department of Homeland Security.

For more on this see:

Banks, Terrorism and other Existential Threats: The Real Invisible Hand http://www.brokenmirrors.ca/?p=230  (intro, list of papers and links)

The Invisible War in Your Wallet – The Sixth Domain of Warfare is You http://www.brokenmirrors.ca/?p=203  (the invisible links between banks, terrorism and existential threats, the international payments and settlements system, the existential threat resident in the current limitations of the (il)legitimacy of the fiat currency system, impact of a failure on the economy and you)

Welcome To The Front – Social and Economic Warfare is all about You http://www.brokenmirrors.ca/?p=252 (future scenario involving the People’s Republic of China, China’s capabilities and intentions, how a potential conflict scenario could develop, previous payments and settlements attacks and failures, conclusions about the state of system security)

The Transformation of the Sixth Domain: Economic Warfare and You in the Information Age.   http://warontherocks.com/2013/10/podcast-the-war-in-your-wallet-the-real-invisible-hand/  or at   http://www.brokenmirrors.ca/?p=261     Podcast (economic warfare, scenarios, fiat currency history, fiat currency current situation, pushing back against the system, community resilience)

FUTURE PAPER: We intend to write one more paper on the payments and settlements system which would identify the path ahead.  Reader comments and ideas will be included and we want your views!  This paper will address issues around the functioning of ATMs in the event of a payments and settlements crisis and whether or not individual FIs would be able/willing to provide cash to only their own customers.  Would this cause a run on the banks?  If there is a breakdown in the payments and settlements system, what would happen to note exchange and provision systems and how would cash get to the FIs?  What would be the effect on securities exchanges, cheques clearing, retail debits, direct deposits, derivatives and foreign currency exchanges? How would they be settled without the payments and settlement system?

Please leave comments here or send directly, in confidence, to cohost@brokenmirrors.ca

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 20:01 | 4032491 Teddy Tenpole
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Hey Motoretard -- save your breath.  It's called "Vacate".  www.bitcoin.com

you should maybe write about the invisible party in my pants

 

well, invisible hand

 

douche doomer boomers

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:59 | 4032484 Michelle
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Guess they decided cloud seeding is a short term solution to a long term problem? Maybe if all their citizens were Olympians maybe they would've addressed this problem sooner, not just during the Olympics.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 20:02 | 4032493 evernewecon
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Sustainability there and here both 

clearly requires at least these two

goals:

 

1,

achieve democracy, so that:

 

2, 

we can reverse engineer, simply,

rationally, directly, from

living long and prospering

(attribution: Mr. Spock.)

 

I think these things have

gotten too destructive:

 

Privatize The Profits, Socialize The Costs. 

Marry To Monopoly For Maximum Effect.

Cost Brake With  Simpson-Bowles.

Use The Adversity As A Profit Center.

Where Sufficiently Severe, Use To Privatize.

(Except Today Pre-Texted Ready-

Privatization’s Been Invented.)

 

I think demagoguery clowds the 

choice between the above formula

and democracy.

 

As to China, the CCP seems to 

reverse engineer from itself,

though many more Chinese think

a mixture of democracy and that

can, supposedly with the right 

intentions and processes 

(we live at sufferance of those things

too, and the intentions and processes

are dubious,) many Chinese seem to think,

they can make out well.

 

Certainly in the U.S., during the main

industrial post WW II growth phase, 

one hardly needed anything more than some

cash and a heart beat to make out well

(financially, not necessarily romantically.)

That is, if he/she understood staying with

a common denominator core provider of the

feedstock of that.

 

Humphrey called that trickle down

(it's really oligarchy.)

 

He said where's the beef.

 

The whole shutdown is about the 

Dems offering a scrap more beef.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug75diEyiA0

 

 

Welcome to seeking democracy and 

saving our habitat.

 

We love you.   From San Diego.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuHMCFYIC9E

 

http://digital-art-gallery.com/oid/10/1800x750_3291_Triumphant_Return_Of...

 

 

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 20:11 | 4032518 akak
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Sorry, but you wasted such an extreme amount of space with the ridiculous formatting of your comment that I refused to even read it.  Please be more considerate, and intelligent, in posting comments here.  Hint: you do NOT need one or two empty lines between every group of three to five words.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 13:55 | 4032512 JuliaS
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People complain about outsourcing of jobs. They don't complaing about outsourcing of pollution...

How about a "bring back the smog" campaign! Want manufacturing back? Here's some lead, mercury and rare metal processing waste! Sniff some asbestos and beryllium. It's good for you!

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 20:13 | 4032527 SgtShaftoe
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Damn Chinese, trying to build out industry, concerned about their own pollution, caring about commerce and not bombing people into the stone age or starting WWIII.  If they supported the whole freedom thing, they'd be pretty great, not that the rest of the west is free anymore. 

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 21:40 | 4032741 Otrader
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I read somewhere that WWIII is bullish!  Anyhooo, back to my freedom fries.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 20:28 | 4032563 reader2010
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To destroy your home planet's ecosystem for imaginary wealth is highly irrational.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 20:42 | 4032593 Billy Shears
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Six billion or so people inhabiting the globe is a dubious and problematic situation but 1.3 billion people inhabiting a country the approximate size of the U.S. is an ecological/environmental catastrophe! Reminds me of that old Bible adage the goes something like for what does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but suffer the loss of his soul. China is, no disrespect intended, a dumping ground and has allowed itself to be used in exchange for, what will turn out to be, worthless paper. In fact, we are all screwed!

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 20:43 | 4032602 I Write Code
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It's a sign of plogless.

But really, I don't like Chinese coal burning putting more mercury into my Pacific Ocean fish, my three-headed glow-in-the-dark Fukishima swordfish.  What's this planet coming to?  A little more global warming and we can just take the fish out of the water and it will broil itself for dinner without a stove.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 20:45 | 4032608 Spastica Rex
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My son is flying there from Seattle tonight. I guess that explains the delay.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 20:56 | 4032640 joego1
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Thats the price they pay for playing "free shit for us and worthless fiat for you!" Thanks again suckers!

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 21:05 | 4032662 walküre
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Chinese government promoting Natural Gas to heat homes. That's why NG jumped 4% today?

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 21:12 | 4032677 Constitutional ...
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I have a lot of sympathy for the Chinese people, the world's oldest continuous civilization. 

The Politburo...not so much. One thing in their favor: they had the sense to imbue the next 5 year plan with buying gold, and that may be the only thing that stops them swinging from lamp posts when the horror of their collusion with central banks (the Rothschilds, Brits and zionists) becomes known.

Money is easy. Values are priceless. Trade on fundamentals, not algos. Just my opinion.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 05:27 | 4033204 swedish etrade baby
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Whats left of chinese culture? Didnt they try to get rid of it. 

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 21:25 | 4032705 Beaver_Valley
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Is it bad that I laughed when I saw that they call bad smog "a yellow alert"?

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 21:30 | 4032716 akak
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So I wonder, when the smog gets REALLY bad, is it officially a "yellow peril"?

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 22:48 | 4032890 orangegeek
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Really difficult to see dead pigs floating down the river.

 

ROR!!!

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 23:00 | 4032912 Flakmeister
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The Koch brothers are getting a hardon looking at all that smog....

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 23:12 | 4032937 Notarocketscientist
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Now's the time to end the one child policy - this is a much more effective method of population control - the Japanese should take note - if you don't want a nation of geriatrics burn more coal - burn the dirtiest shittiest fucking coal you can find.

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