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Now The Chinese Are Wagging Their Fingers At Obama

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Submitted by Simon Black of Sovereign Man blog,

 

“Diminishing Superpower”

This was the headline streaking across the weekend edition of the Jakarta Globe, one of the largest newspapers in Indonesia.

The photo beneath was of Barack Obama, his lips pursed and eyes steeled as if he was fighting back tears. Or perhaps staring off into the fiscal abyss.

The subheadline read: “Obama’s APEC absence symbolic of US waning influence in Asia.”

The article goes on to describe how the President’s conspicuous absence from this weekend’s summit of the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation (a multinational trade bloc in the Asia/Pacific region) highlights the decline of the US as the world’s superpower.

It’s so obvious to everyone else that the US is in terminal decline.

(Granted, the Indonesians are a bit miffed given that they went to the trouble of closing the brand new airport in Bali for four days, partly because of the anticipated arrival of Air Force One… and then the President didn’t bother showing up.)

Russian President Vladimir Putin and Chinese President Xi Jinping stepped up in Obama’s stead, taking the world’s stage in yet another clear sign of where the real economic power and leadership is.

Putin himself was even nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize… for preventing a former Nobel Peace Prize recipient (Barack Obama) from starting a war Syria.

Meanwhile, China’s vice Finance Minister Zhu Guangyao has been wagging his finger at the US Treasury Department, warning that “the clock is ticking” and that Obama should “take decisive and credible steps to avoid a default on its Treasury bonds.”

All this comes at a time when the US has been caught red handed spying on the rest of the world, including its own people… and its allies. This prompted the Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff to cancel an official visit to the United States this month.

It’s amazing when you step back and look at the big picture.

The Russians are preventing a US military invasion. The Chinese actually have to step in and say something publicly to ensure that the US government pays its bills. The Brazilians are too disgusted to even visit Washington DC.

What a completely different world we live in, even compared to just 10 or 15 years ago.

Think back to the late 90s. The US really was the pinnacle of civilization. The government was beginning to pay down its debt. America’s reputation was unblemished. And to most foreigners, the US economy was the envy of the world.

What’s happening today would have been unthinkable back then. But it just goes to show how quickly things can unravel.

It’s tremendously important that the reputation of the US government is sinking to an all-time low internationally.

Remember, the reason that the US Federal Reserve can print trillions of dollars is because the rest of the world has for decades been willing to accept dollars for international transactions and sovereign reserves.

Nearly every government and central bank on the planet has a big pile of dollars stashed away.

The US government seems to think that this arrangement will last forever, and that their actions are without consequence. Nothing is further from the truth.

As the US government’s international reputation craters after one embarrassing episode after another, other nations are beginning to no longer trust the US, whether it comes to spying or managing a sound currency.

This puts the US dollar at even greater risk of quickly losing global reserve domination, and along with it, the ability to print money without damning ramifications.

As history has shown so many times before, this is exactly how the end begins.

 


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Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:23 | Link to Comment Alcoholic Nativ...
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The "Osama Slayer"

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:31 | Link to Comment remain calm
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Obama what a fucking joke, if this wasn't so tragic this would be funny. Our kids do not deserve this.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:32 | Link to Comment McMolotov
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"Deserve's got nothin' to do with it."

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:35 | Link to Comment Keyser
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The truth hurts and it's not good when your largest bond holder spanks you on page one in the international press. Obama should take note, shut the fuck up and DO HIS JOB. 

 

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:38 | Link to Comment max2205
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It began a while ago....1980's....but ok

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:54 | Link to Comment ZerOhead
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In the 1980's Reagan told us it was "Morning In America Again"

 

Speed things up to the 2010's and it's now become "Mourning In America Again"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU-IBF8nwSY

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:29 | Link to Comment Richard Chesler
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subprime potus.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:21 | Link to Comment Manthong
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Note that he is not wagging his finger at Boehner.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:34 | Link to Comment pods
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That pic was taken last week after Jaime made him play "bite the pillow."

pods

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 21:40 | Link to Comment James_Cole
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Actually it's good that Obama had to stay home from the TPP bullshit.

If people on here knew what TPP was, they'd also think it good. Of course Obama wanted to be there (gov shutdown threw a wrench) but good that he wasn't. 

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 21:40 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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He might be our president but he's your problem...

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 23:14 | Link to Comment stacking12321
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+1 for the john connally quote!

he is a fiat president, backed by nothing, he is an iou note that can't be collected.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 07:44 | Link to Comment Redhotfill
Mon, 10/07/2013 - 21:38 | Link to Comment Gamma735
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It began in 1913 with the creation of the Federal Reserve ponzi scheme.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 22:39 | Link to Comment Manthong
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Don't forget the 16th and 17th Amendments in 1913.

All part of the scheme to wreck the founders effective design.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 07:35 | Link to Comment kralizec
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One of the worst years in history ever kicking off one of the worst periods in history ever...and we get to be there at the end...

Thanks a lot.

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Tue, 10/08/2013 - 00:25 | Link to Comment LongMarch
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He is doing his job;He just dosen't work for you.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:01 | Link to Comment CoonT
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Classic..

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:36 | Link to Comment MillionDollarBonus_
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What our kids deserve is a good education. America is still shaping its future as a progressive democracy. We all want to live in a society that has positive forward thinking values, and the key to building a forward thinking society is education:

http://accredited-times.com/2013/10/07/why-education-is-the-key-to-creat...

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:38 | Link to Comment LynRobison
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Yeah, a good education will help our kids a lot when the US defaults, the dollar collapses, and we can no longer afford our carrier battle groups. After the Chinese and Russians invade, a good education will be just what our kids need. Great thinking MDB!

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:32 | Link to Comment dryam
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MDB,

Access to a great education is available to everyone with an internet connection & a $200 computer.  The Kwan Academy would be a great place to start.  There's no need to throw money at the education problem.  Education is a societal/culture/parental problem.  It has nothing to do with lack of funding.  If parents were involved in their kids education from day one & used all the resources available on the net, we'd have an army of engineers & scientists. 

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:49 | Link to Comment johnQpublic
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but would kids use the 200 dollar computer for video games and porn or educating themselves?

 

you all know the answer

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:11 | Link to Comment NoDebt
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I do know the answer.  It depends if the parents care and take the time to watch over them.  I do.

Half an hour ago I also was doing multiplication flash cards with my 4th grader.  He's got a tough time with his 7, 8 and 9 times tables.  I don't like how the school is doing it, so I'm doing it now at home- simple, old fashioned memorization drills (stuff that would get today's teachers brought up on charges of cruel and unusal education).  I walk around the house and shout out multiplication questions for him, too.

Does it work?

2 weeks ago he got a "Below Basic" score on a multiplication test (that's what they call "failing" now in schools, FYI).  38%- really REALLY awful- and unacceptable, as I explained to him.  Today he brought home another test- he got an 80.  He says we have to hurry up and get on the 9-times tables because he wants to get a 100 on his next one.  

If you care, they will care.  A little success goes a long way.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:26 | Link to Comment Manthong
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LOL   Freedom’s just another word for nothing left to lose and “progressive democracy” is just another term for “Nationalsozialismus“.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 20:24 | Link to Comment geekgrrl
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Good for you. I wonder how many parents actually do this even though it's something anyone could do?

Anyway, tell your son the nines are easy because the right answer always adds up to 9: e.g. 9*2=18: 1+8 = 9, 9*3=27: 2+7 = 9, 9*4=36: 3 + 6 = 9, and so on. Probably most people know this already but I didn't come across it until a calc prof mentioned it in passing, so I thought I'd pass it along in case you didn't know.

Another two-step method can used instead or as a sanity check because it makes the multiplication super easy: make the 9 a 10 and subtract the other number: 7*10-7 = 63, 8*10 = 80-8=72, etc., i.e. 9*x=(10-1)*x=10*x-x

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 20:53 | Link to Comment NoDebt
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Thanks, geekgrrl.  I forgot all about that old checksum method of verifying the 9s.  I have had my ass saved by the old "transposition errors are always divisible by 9" thing since forever, but I forgot about the simple stuff.  The checksum thing I think he might be able to use.

Update!  I just talked to him about that rule.... HE ALREADY KNEW IT!  HAH!  Knows the rule to check the answer but doesn't know the answers.  FAN-FREAKIN-TASTIC.  That's modern education for you!

 

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 21:29 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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Now on to multiplying and dividing mixed numbers (eg, (5 and 2/3) * (6 and 1/4)) in his head.  I taught our daughter how to that when she was in the sixth grade when I would drive her to school.  She hated it at first, but got to where she could do that really fast.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 03:34 | Link to Comment Bruce Flea
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Nines are fun. The easy way to know the answer is to subtract 1 from the number that isn't 9, and add the difference to get 9 to it.

For instance 9 X 7. 7 minus one is 6, so the answer starts with 6. Add 3 to get nine, so the answer is 63.

9 X 9. One less than 9 is 8. t takes 8 + 1 to equal nine, so the answer is 81.

 

 

Aside from cool math, Buck Orama is quite an example.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 07:31 | Link to Comment FreeNewEnergy
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Nines are absolutely simple. Multiply by 10 and subtract the multiplier (if that's the correct term; been a long time). 9 X 6 = 54. 10 X 6 = 60. Subtract 6 = 54. 9 X 8 =? 10 X 8 = 80 - 8 = 72. Pretty simple, and works every time. Don't thank me. Thank Pythagoras. And when he gets to algebra and geometry, encourage him to understand the theorems, if they still teach them. Knowing HOW and WHY things work is the key to real knowledge. 

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 21:15 | Link to Comment stocktivity
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That's how I did it with my 3 kids when they were that age. Dick, Jane, Sally, and Spot all taught us old folks to read....and it worked.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 20:08 | Link to Comment 29.5 hours
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We *do* have an army of engineers and scientists--making lots of weapons for the military.

Are you misspelling Khan Academy?  Yes, it is a good place to start for someone who wants to accelerate their education.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 07:49 | Link to Comment Redhotfill
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The talented technically educated slaves get spared to work for their new masters..... maybe thats what he is talking about.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:45 | Link to Comment venturen
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what you actually mean is you want teachers paid $200k/yr to work 8 months of the year that can't be fired for doing a horrible job. Teacher pay has NOTHING TO DO WITH EDUCATION! By progressive society you mean Italian work ethtic and French holidays and a UK health System?

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:00 | Link to Comment Mad Max
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You must be new here.

MDB is always 100% sarcastic.  Have you checked out the website that he links to?

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:57 | Link to Comment nmewn
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ObamMao like crazy man. He fok up ouwa crash frow. How we build ghost cities nowa?

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:16 | Link to Comment McMolotov
Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:29 | Link to Comment nmewn
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lol.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 22:56 | Link to Comment Manthong
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Maybe the gay boy or suck on my Chinese nuts gag would be better accepted by the MSM and their unwashed masses viewership than this very poignant CAGW one was.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYKAbRK_wKA

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:23 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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"How to cheat generations out of their assets and savings in three easy steps!" has clearly been taught very well.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 21:18 | Link to Comment Quentin Daniels
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Only in the ivy league institutions.  The rest of the education system just focuses on "How to bend over, grab your ankles and pretend you like it."

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:38 | Link to Comment yogibear
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Rose colored glasses. What country is that? The US is a republic (Republic for which it stands....)

LOL "America is still shaping its future as a progressive democracy."

Translation... socialism

DC and Wall Street seem like the only cities that seem to matter these days.

Know many MS and PhDs that can't find jobs paying enough in technical fields to pay back their student loans,

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 00:27 | Link to Comment hivekiller
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Moron.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:37 | Link to Comment NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  Our kids do not deserve this

If the worlds greatest generation - who set-up all the Big-Gov scams in the first place - didn't care about your kids, why should the following generations?

Each generation gets to screw the following one, and has taken every oportunity to do so.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:32 | Link to Comment Totentänzerlied
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+10^10

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:45 | Link to Comment nmewn
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You're gonna need us kiddo, don't piss us off too much, we have nothing to lose once we top fiddy ;-)

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:45 | Link to Comment midtowng
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This didn't start with Obama. This started with Dubya, and Obama didn't have the courage to change anything.

Obama is merely the 4th term of Dubya.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:52 | Link to Comment cossack55
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Incorrect in MHO.  It started with Wilson, maybe even Teddy.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:13 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Or even ole Honest "Greenback" Abe ;-)

Yes, Wilson got the Fed its charter but these assholes were trying to get their hooks in us long before...Jefferson warned about it and Jackson wanted to kill them outright.

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson

In other words, its thieving from future generations to accomodate the base desires of the present generation.

Let it burn now, for them.

http://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/private-banks-quotation

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:22 | Link to Comment Shell Game
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Good 'ol Abe...  What's that fifth plank of the Communist Manifesto?  oh yeah.. "5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly."  

Lincoln was a pile of dung that drew the commie and crony shit-flies to D.C.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:33 | Link to Comment greatbeard
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>> Jefferson warned

You need to read the link you posted.  Jefferson didn't say that.  From the link:

Earliest known appearance in print: 1933

Other attributions: None known.

Status: This quotation is at least partly spurious; see comments below.

Comments: This quotation is often cited as being in an 1802 letter to Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin, and/or "later published in The Debate Over the Recharter of the Bank Bill (1809)."

The first part of the quotation ("If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered") has not been found anywhere in Thomas Jefferson's writings, to Albert Gallatin or otherwise. It is identified in Respectfully Quoted as spurious, and the editor further points out that the words "inflation" and "deflation" are not documented until after Jefferson's lifetime.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:03 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Read further down, thats not the quote I cited.

No harm, no foul.

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"...may well be a paraphrase of a statement Jefferson made in a letter to John Taylor in 1816. He wrote, "And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."

...from the link ;-)

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 01:21 | Link to Comment SonOfSoros
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It started with Teddy because of his hatred of monopolies and initiated class warfares. 

He bred fear of the rich and free market within the peasants. Took advantage of people's fear of the successful and increased the government's power. He started the destruction of the free market. 

He is one of the worst presidents of America. 

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:05 | Link to Comment optimator
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It started with Woody Wilson, and sped up with FDR.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:40 | Link to Comment yogibear
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May Woodrow Wilson burn in hell!

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:27 | Link to Comment NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  This started with Dubya

Dubya?!   Reagan doubled the debt from 1 to 2 trillion.

There's no reason for any Team not to increase the debt.    Everybody loves free money and the crony-socialist scam they are getting rich off of.   What politician doesn't want to make his friends and supporters rich?

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 21:06 | Link to Comment Tom G
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It started long before Dubya.

It started before concepts of Divine Right, where monarchs convinced people that they had the Right to rule as ordained by God.

It started before the Gracchus brothers, Sulla, and Caesar.

There have always been sociopaths who seek power over their fellow man.

And societies that rise will eventually crumble due to these parasites. The cycle is repeating. Dubya and Obama are not anything new, those in power inevitably get worse as the cycle nears its reset point.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:48 | Link to Comment Notarocketscientist
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You write as if Obama was something other than an employee of the corporations and special interests who call the tune.

Don't be such a stunned fuck.

It is Anerica that is the joke - the most fucked up country in the history of the world.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 23:01 | Link to Comment jerry_theking_lawler
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The kids do deserve this....because their parents were complete IDIOTS!!

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:35 | Link to Comment Max Damage
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Obama is an utter fuckin wanker. A laughing stock to the rest of the world, a racist who undermines what made America. And worse than Obama are the dickheads who keep voting for him and those arsehole republicans. Like the UK and Europe, you need rid of the standard political parties who have shit on all of us

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:40 | Link to Comment MillionDollarBonus_
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I'm not sure which racist sexist parties you're talking about, but I think most Americans are quite happy with the two legitimate political parties. Why don't you go blow up a building or something while the rest of America works on solving he government shutdown crisis.

www.accredited-times.com

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:43 | Link to Comment McMolotov
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LOL

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:49 | Link to Comment venturen
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Boy are you dumb...a 10% approval rating for congress, of course that is better than your approval rating.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:01 | Link to Comment nuclearsquid
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I have to say, since you started that blog, your posts just haven't been doing it for me anymore.  

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:17 | Link to Comment NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  but I think most Americans are quite happy with the two legitimate political parties.

Can't argue with that actually.  The incumbent usually gets re-elected.

The other guy is the problem, my guy is pretty honest actually,  he's got a real honest look `bout `im.   I think I'll vote for him again.

 

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:26 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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MDB - your satirical verse is in top form today, bravo.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:26 | Link to Comment TheMeatTrapper
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Oh Matthew - you can do better than this. You're slipping. 

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 21:24 | Link to Comment WOAR
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I know which racist sexist parties I'm talking about.

"Yeah-ah-eaeah, it's a party in the KKK..."

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:48 | Link to Comment Notarocketscientist
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Open your eyes buddy.  Obama is nobody - he's a figure head.  He dances to the tune called by those who really run the show.

It is attitudes like yours that keep the charade running. 

Dont be so goddam stupid!

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:13 | Link to Comment TaperProof
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Hhaha

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:21 | Link to Comment walküre
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Finally his ugly mug made it into his local paper

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:27 | Link to Comment McMolotov
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Obama's favorite fried dog recipe is on page 5.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:38 | Link to Comment Long-John-Silver
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I'll have a McWoof, double order of Wontons, and a large Hot Tea to go.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:39 | Link to Comment Keyser
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Not so much in Indonesia, but you will never see any stray dogs in the Philippines or Viet Nam. 

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:43 | Link to Comment Long-John-Silver
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Cats too.

 

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 21:04 | Link to Comment TheMeatTrapper
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I've never eaten domesticated cat, but I can tell you that cougar and bobcat are outstanding table fare. When TSHTF, there won't be any cats running loose in my vicinity.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 23:31 | Link to Comment 918pigpen
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OLD JOKE

What do you call a Vietnamese walking a dog?

 

Vegetarian

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:02 | Link to Comment Jethro
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Can we start a petition on the White House site to deport him back to Indonesia?

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:24 | Link to Comment WALLST8MY8BALL
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Finger Banged!

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:24 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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The Kochs and other right wing fucktards would love a collapsed America, it is just what you need to implement your own version of Feudalism....

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:30 | Link to Comment McMolotov
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So the choice is between left wing fucktard feudalism and right wing fucktard feudalism? Good to know we have choices.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:35 | Link to Comment Bay of Pigs
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Not too surprising, he rarely makes a legitimate point.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:49 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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No, the choice is not quite that but thanks for playing....

And whatever choice you choose to make, you had better have a contingency for the corporations, they also dont care what wing prevails...

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:42 | Link to Comment Charles Nelson ...
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I'm not following your story arc here?

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:53 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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What would called a plan to try and topple the government funded by right wing ideologues?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/06/us/a-federal-budget-crisis-months-in-the-planning.html

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:15 | Link to Comment greatbeard
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You can bank on nobody that red flagged you reading the article.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:28 | Link to Comment Bay of Pigs
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I read it. Moar left/right partisan bullshit is all that article is. Been pointed out here dozens of times before.

And he gets red arrows for thinking any ZHer would support the Kock Bros. in the first place. Seriously, wtf is his point?

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:41 | Link to Comment greatbeard
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>> for thinking any ZHer would support the Kock Bros.

I missed the part about him saying ZHers supported the Koch Brothers.  I just saw it as an article about who's behind what's going on behind the scenes.  What's going on now is nothing but a partisan slug fest to see who's cronies get the spoils. 

I could step us and support some of the goings on if the Republicans were suggesting some across the board spending cuts, even if they wanted to completely shit can The Affordable Health Care Act along the way (I'm certainly no supporter of that monstrosity).

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:50 | Link to Comment Bay of Pigs
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Brother, that is how they divide and conquer us. Thinking we have a choice, and that one party is better than the other.

They aren't. They are in it together. It is a farce. It is a one party system controlled by Banksters, corporations and lobbyists. We have no voice. As in, no representation.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:31 | Link to Comment Shell Game
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What would [you] call a plan to try to topple the government funded by left wing ideologues?

The Affordable Care Act

 

But thanks for playing...

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:02 | Link to Comment NOTaREALmerican
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Re; What would called a plan to try and topple the government funded by right wing ideologues?

The right wing ideologues don't want to topple the government, they want to run it.   The Red Team loves manly Big-Gov,  the Blue Team loves all Big-Gov including all the manly Big-Gov the Red Team loves.

If the "Progressives" would admit that the size and power of the government is what makes it valuable to the both the socialists and fascists, maybe they'd want it shrunk instead of increased in size.   

 

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:52 | Link to Comment MilwaukeeMark
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Hey wanker... You strayed onto Zerohedge not the Daily Worker. Go peddle your class envy elsewhere.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:06 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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Don;t you have a cruise on the Minnow to catch?

PS Call me when you make $250,000 a year...

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:57 | Link to Comment nmewn
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So making 250k a year is supposed to mean what...make you more valuable to society...or just overpaid? ;-)

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:13 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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It means I don't have class envy...

I got tired of being around rich sociopaths, my boss was pulling down mid 7 figures... Unfortunately he didn;t think any of that should trickle down...

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:26 | Link to Comment nmewn
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I think it means you don't want your government sponsored paycheck interrupted...but thats jus me. And I would suggest there are more sociopaths below "the rich" than who are rich...its just sheer numbers. 

But anyways, whats wrong with your keyboard...it keeps giving a semi colon for an apostrophe?

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:45 | Link to Comment Shell Game
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Just goes to show the Pinko, err... pinky can't go right....   ;)

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 20:17 | Link to Comment nmewn
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lol...yet, he/they have it all figgered out, for us...in everything, large & small.

Very, very comforting...and they get paid astoundingly well for it too, apparently ;-)

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:35 | Link to Comment Shell Game
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Flak is our resident troll.  In other words, he is welcome here AND he is a troll.  You'll find him whip smart on energy and rock dumb on politics.  Like the hot chick with gnarly halitosis...  ;)

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:11 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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Ahhh....  I am so touched...

But if you dickweeds can't tell the difference between Michelle Bachman or Ted Cruz and a sentinent life form, there is no hope for you...

So the Kochs and Buffet on the same team, really? Is your tunnel vision that restricted?

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:18 | Link to Comment nmewn
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lol...I saw Michelle Bachman on SNL...she seemed kinda strange (but really REALLY horny).

That was a senitient life form, wasn't it? ;-)

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 23:00 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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Never stick your dick into crazy...

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:22 | Link to Comment Bay of Pigs
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As a matter of fact, they are on the same team. I guess you missed Uncle Warren getting a nice $2B from GS warrants the other day for "helping them" during the 2008 financial crisis.

We might have some vision issues flak but you cant see at all.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 23:04 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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Just because they are all greedy pricks does not make them from the same team...

Call me when the Kochs put their wealth into trust...

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 00:04 | Link to Comment Bay of Pigs
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Oh I see, Uncle Warren is okay sucking Bankster dick and fucking the American people over as long as he gives the crumbs to the poor.

You are completely deluded and totally hypocritical.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 00:27 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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Sort of like saying given the choice between Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot and Hitler, I'd take Stalin...

I guess damning someone with faint praise is too subtle for the hedge... Everything is black and white, eh? 

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:36 | Link to Comment Harbanger
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"Flak is our resident troll" Nah. He really believes that all the strawmen created by left are out to destroy the world thru Global warming.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:27 | Link to Comment Harbanger
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@ Flak I prefer rainbow feudalism over the other version.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:27 | Link to Comment tony wilson
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talking of nobel peace prize winners.

 

 a Monsanto executive is winning this year’s “Nobel Prize of agriculture” -- the prestigious World Food Prize -- for creating GMOs.


If that wasn't baffling enough, the founder of Syngenta, the same biotech giant joining Bayer in suing Europe to keep selling bee-killing pesticides, will also win the prize -- and with it, a share of the $250,000 prize money. 

 

you cannot make this eugenics shit up.

these fuckers want us numbskulls dead i tell ya.

http://action.sumofus.org/a/world-food-prize-monsanto-syngenta/5/4/?akid...

 

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:45 | Link to Comment zorba THE GREEK
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"these fuckers want us dead"....

Tony, even if that's not their motive, it will be the result of their actions.

The pesticides they are using now are lowering men's Testosterone levels

at an alarming rate. Soon there will be few men who will capable of procreation

and the human race will die off.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:04 | Link to Comment Induced Coma
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Long Seamen?

 

 

 

IC

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:58 | Link to Comment Shell Game
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Go longer seamen semen.....said the long shoreman picking up seashells at the sea shore.   er...

 

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 20:54 | Link to Comment StychoKiller
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Sounds like a "Shell Game!"  :>D

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:52 | Link to Comment WillyGroper
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Zorba, I think you're off on the testosterone. Then end result is the same tho. Cancer clusters in SF, CA. Wifi removed from schools in Europe & now hard wired. We're blanketed with EMF. I've developed a sensitivity to it. You'd do yourself & your family well to read over the conclusion first, then the research. They're going to cull alright. This shit effects EVERYTHING. Woodja rather have testosterone or an intact heart, or brain? Smart meters-your house wiring is a damn antenna. You are slowly being microwaved.

http://www.bioinitiative.org/conclusions/

 

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:43 | Link to Comment Trimmed Hedge
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these fuckers want us numbskulls dead i tell ya.

 

And I want them dead

Watch for me on the national news...

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 21:31 | Link to Comment WOAR
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Good luck.

Be sure to set yourself on fire afterwards, but make sure there are plenty of cameras. Otherwise, nobody talks about it.

Do it at Wal-Mart.

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 11:34 | Link to Comment Jugdish787
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I applaud your tenacity and willingness to step up to the plate. I have often wondered what happened to the good ole' fashioned "tar and feather"? I don't think we take advantage of this custom today, and we should! What gets a politician not to sell you out for money and power? Good old fashioned fear of what he(she or it?) will face when they come home. I really think we should start this again...either tarring and feathering or put them in some stocks on the town square so everybody can throw rotten fruit and vegetables at them. I see my congressman every once in a while and everyone kisses his ass, like he is some sort of king. I say find your congress critter, chuck a tar ball at him, then throw in some feathers, or your choice of dressing. Watch him change his tune when he realizes every time he comes to his district he is subject to public humiliation.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:27 | Link to Comment AgAuSkeptic
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Jakarta is in Indonesia not China, so its Indonesians wagging their fingers.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:41 | Link to Comment Stoploss
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Meanwhile, China’s vice Finance Minister Zhu Guangyao has been wagging his finger at the US Treasury Department, warning that “the clock is ticking” and that Obama should “take decisive and credible steps to avoid a default on its Treasury bonds.”

 

Does that clear it up for ya septic?

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:47 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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Have no fear Indonesia...America's worthless dollar will join with yours and Russia's soon enough. "We're just pacing ourselves." I do wish to remind all who are listening that monetizing the debt is a violation of the Fed's charter...and I'm glad the Chairman is on the record (a while back) stating that we are not doing this. I hope that clears up any headline risk faux or otherwise.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:41 | Link to Comment Keyser
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Most westerners don't know the difference between Taiwan and Thailand, nor could they pick out either on a map, much less Indonesia. 

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:55 | Link to Comment cossack55
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What about Thai sticks?

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:58 | Link to Comment optimator
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Most westerners don't know Taiwan is really Formosa.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:07 | Link to Comment McMolotov
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Who's Mosa? And why is Taiwan for her?

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:43 | Link to Comment stormsailor
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taiwan is orange juice with champagne?

Tue, 10/08/2013 - 00:55 | Link to Comment peter4805
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I think I'll taiwan on this weekend.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:29 | Link to Comment nmewn
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I'm gonna go out on a limb and blame government schools on this one.

I know, everyones surprised at my position...lol.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:31 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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Is Indonesia where all this youth-in-asia controversy got started?

Doctors should treat all children!

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:53 | Link to Comment Geruda
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The stupids here are not knowing and they are not caring.   Many of the stupids who are coming here are coming here to be hating and saying things that are stupid to other stupids who are liking what they are saying because it is the same words of stupid they are thinking.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:53 | Link to Comment WillyGroper
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Pretty bad for a murderous country to wag.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:28 | Link to Comment ronaldawg
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Rotsa RUCK!

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:43 | Link to Comment yogibear
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LOL, hope you all in China like pounding dirt.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:30 | Link to Comment fcamargoe
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I dont trust anything I read at Jakarta Globe. I recently cancelled my subscription.

In other news I love my bloomberg terminal.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:31 | Link to Comment Rainman
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No mo gubmint cheese for the Indonesians until they apologize !

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:36 | Link to Comment Ham-bone
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Given there is "only" $4 T in public Treasury debt 1 yr and longer...and given the Fed can only buy 70% of every specific Treasury issuance, this means there is "only" $2.8 T available for the Fed to buy - of which they already own $2.2 T (since they own no debt 1yr and less).  So, in less than 1yr @ current QE rate Fed will own all new and existing Treasury Bills / Bonds / TIPS up to their 70% limit and there will in effect never be any interest rate risk to the Federal gov...unless no one wants to own even the other 30% the Fed can't buy...or the Fed subsequently amend their rules to allow an 80% or 90% or 100% Fed ownership of all Bills and Bonds. 

That means all the risk will be in the $7 T worth of public debt notes if somebodies decide to simply stop rolling (almost all of the $5 T worth of foreign held debt is less than 1yr in duration)...all the excitement is in the front end now.  The Fed owns none but could own $7T in short order???  Wouldn't that also be known as hyperinflation???

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:45 | Link to Comment max2205
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Exactly. If Ben wasn't such a moron, he should have paid off China and uk and and japan with all that printed money.... What a dipshit

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:32 | Link to Comment NOTaREALmerican
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Oh yeah,  oh YEAH?

Our central banker can out print YOUR central banker any day of the week.

Can NOT!

CAN TOO!

Oh yeah?

You just wait until our central banker starts really printing, then you'll see whoz got the best central banker.

Oh yeah, you and what army.  I'm going home.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:31 | Link to Comment Clowns on Acid
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The US media is losing their influence rapidly in the US. It's about time people woke up to the left wing inspired distopia that Hillary and fellow Alinskyites envisioned and have been implementing.

It's become more than a feckin' joke.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:47 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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They get more shrill as their viewership drops.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:35 | Link to Comment 29.5 hours
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They should not say that about us. We are not a banana republic.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:43 | Link to Comment 29.5 hours
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Aww man, down voted for quoting our glorious leader. Yeah, maybe I did deserve it...

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:55 | Link to Comment Pullmyfinger
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As you should know, the last person to successfully quote a Glorious Leader was Boris Badinoff.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:45 | Link to Comment Keyser
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You are correct. We are now a 3rd world country as I have been to many banana republics that are run much better than the US. 

 

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:42 | Link to Comment Winston Churchill
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Totally agree.

More like a pickled gherkin republic.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:50 | Link to Comment Pullmyfinger
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Care for a banana?

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:36 | Link to Comment John McCloy
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Joke in chief. One day we will once again have a real President , non money interest appointed figure head, and real representatives back in office after we revert back to our core principles..May take decades but something wicked economically must come this way to instill and cement the measures we had in place.
The Dino media will go to the wayside and hopefully most of the teet sucker treasonists will be imprisoned. And people question why the msm bobble heads wants to disarm citizens..?
They will come for us with force and first try to use the Santa Clause elves Free Shit Army against us to usher us into the "freedom camps"
Imagine what these zombies would do unto their own for two EBT cards with mainstream running cover.
Tyranny inevitably loses... On a long enough time line... Sadly it always reemerges... Such is the march of evil men..
We will find our way again as a people but only after people fall down holes of despair saying" how the fuck could I ever invest my time In who Miley was Twerking and who Kim K was sucking..how could I allow this to happen"
This too shall pass but we likely will not be around long enough to see it. Get ready for fascism with 21st century technological overlay the likes we have not seen before.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:41 | Link to Comment NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  Free Shit Army

How many "patriots" are living directly or indirectly off of:  Big-Ag, Big-MIC, Big-Road, Big-Water, Big-Airport, Big-Energy, Big-Ed, Big-House, Big-Fin, Big-OldFart, Big-OldFartHealthcare, Big-AntiDrug, & Big-PoliceState?.

Yeah,  lots.   When the OldFarts demand their crony-socialist scams get cut to "save the county" then we'll see some change, until then it's:  Git yer socialist hands off my government healthcare, I'm ENTITLED to that 4th hip replacement surgury!!!

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:49 | Link to Comment Keyser
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Over half of the country is on the government tit. Weaning them off is going to be ugly, but necessary. 

 

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 17:58 | Link to Comment NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  Over half...

When over half are, that's a guarantee that nothing will "wean them off" voluntarily.  

Everybody loves the crony-socialist scam they are living well off of, and will fight like hell and vote to keep the scam going.

My Big-Gov scam isn't socialism, that's an investment in our children's future!

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 18:21 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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There's some twisted genius behind bailing out the banks, insurers, and corporations - because now I feel that if I work hard and don't bleed the system or suck the teat - I'm the damn fool.

Mon, 10/07/2013 - 19:01 | Link to Comment Things that go bump
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Jump on it if you can and milk it for everything its worth. Its your patriotic duty. Be a burden and help break the back of this monster.  

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